The Greatest Black NHL Player - The Grant Fuhr Story
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- In October of 1981, 8th overall draft pick Grant Fuhr took to the ice in the NHL for the first time. Over the next 19 seasons, Fuhr would set a number of league records, go down in history as one of the greatest goalies to ever play the game and inspire many black or mixed-race hockey players for generations to come.
This is the story of the greatest black NHL player...
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He’s my all time favourite player. He was amazing, acrobatic....just exciting to watch. I met him once, and found out from Hotel staff that he was just awesome. He was so humble and nice. It’s awesome when one of your idols is truly a nice person as well. #31 Grant Fuhr, the best!
Watch Grant Fuhr play, Canada cup 87 is a must. He's proof that stats don't tell the whole story. Great player.
There's a lot to be said about that Oilers side in the 1980's. Not only were they proponents in embracing European talent, they were brave enough to pick up a coloured player in their ranks who just happened to be supremely talented in the goaltender position. That's why they remain one of the most beloved teams in NHL history.
Oh, and having some bloke called Gretzky sort of helped as well.
Coloured, where the hell do you live Czechoslovakia.
Glen Sather, who ran the oilers back then often said he didn’t care who you were as long as you could play.
@@purpleaki7135 Don't mind him, he's just waiting for his autogyro to Siam.
I loved Grant Fuhr he was a great player on a great team The Edmonton Oilers with Gretzky, Messier, Jari Kurri, Paul Coffee, etc
I used to live right by Grant Fuhr when he played for Edmonton, such a nice man and a legend!
Whereabouts did you live during the championship years?
@@seanruddy1272 Castledowns, Steve Smith lived by Beaumaris lake which was close by as well.
Thank you for celebrating the career of a great black NHLer. Fuhr overcame a lot of racism throughout his career, so I'm not sure if it's possible to give him too much recognition for getting to the NHL and HOF.
Those Old Oilers years was such an incredible and amazing run of fun and excitement! Magic On Ice ! WAY TO GO EDMONTON! Unforgettable Memories!
Much respect for this phenomenal goaltender. One of the best ever! Being a Flyers fan we certainly couldn’t beat him and he deserves 5 cups!
Grant Fuhr played an essential role in providing endless excitement in my childhood!!!!! Thanks for the memories!!!!
He was fun or 'They' were fun to watch.. 👍
He’s a chill dude. I used to work with his daughter. Corrine passed away a few years ago, she was super nice
Grant Fuhr was truly great when it was on the line
Some will say he played for stacked teams but it is what it is... He won and deserves his legacy nonetheless.
That goes for ozgood then too.
Fuhr in the regular season and Fuhr in the playoffs were two very different stories. In the regular season, he was consistently excellent and sometimes great. In the playoffs, Fuhr (like many of those '80s Oiler players) tended to find another gear. The Oilers could shut things down in the postseason, and Grant Fuhr was a big reason why.
You could say the same for Mark-Andre Fleury.
@@tomace194 and Ken Dryden, no?
It was a stacked team, out of the 10 top playoff point leaders of all time, the Oilers have 5..gretzky, kuri, anderson, messier and coffey
This is a great video - very informative! Thanks for putting all of this together.
I remember when he played with st louis....he was really good.
I think he played like 78 games that season John Casey collected cobwebs on the bench
@@Davidjon1946 he had the record that year for the starting goalie who was pulled out of games the most, i think 16 or 19 but that maybe more due to Mike Keenan coaching antics
@@jonathancote9372 Considering that Keenan was notoriously fickle with goaltenders, starting that many games is pretty impressive. He obviously had confidence in the guy.
When I grew up the only black player I knew about was Donald Brashear who was a notorious enforcer and also on the receiving end of the McSorley incident.
That incident was disgusting. McSorley lost a lot of popularity with that stunt. I didn't respect him much after that incident and it was a very ugly way to end a career as extensive as his.
So Brashear was "notorious" and McSorley just had an "incident". Got it pal. It's funny how the US Government and Canadian Government had a "difference of opinion".
Did you watch much hockey?
And now he serves coffee at Tim Hortons ;/
Tony mckegney Pokey Reddick Fred brathwaite Anson Carter Kevin weeks Peter Worrell Jean-Luc Grand Pierre. Georges laraque Mike Grier bunch of black players during this era I know I'm forgetting many more
As an Oilers fan i really love grant fuhr. He was really good in his prime years
I liked when he was a flame
Always had the best pads as an Oiler.
he actually was a better goalie after he came back from his suspension, when he played for the leafs and blues. He changed to a butterfly style and his numbers improved.
@@smithryansmith Yeah but the early 80s was a pretty tough time to be a goalie
Thank you for this video
3:02 , whoever wore 99 for the leafs must have been a massive duster 😂
Wilf Paiement had a 40 goal season in Toronto. Good player.
I seem to recall that he was pressured by Gretzky fans and ended up changing it.
@@1bert719 i thought he switched numbers when he was traded to quebec where he was told he couldnt have that number
Wilf came to the league in 78' Gretzky 79'. Why would it matter as 99 wasn't recognized as a significant number at that time. It didn't even become a number people stopped wearing regularly until the late 80's...
@@nyfo29 Could be the case, i seem to remember reading it in a book about the Leafs by Howard Berger.
Would love to meet him. BIG inspiration in my hockey days in the 80's & 90's.
Never played in the NHL but we should all know the name Herb Carnegie
i agree...Carnegie WOULD have been one the best of his era for sure and probably a Hall of Famer ...the pontential was sure as hell there .
Played with and against his grandson Rane
Not sure if you guys gives a shit but if you are bored like me atm you can stream all of the new series on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my girlfriend for the last few weeks =)
@Vihaan Abdullah Yea, I have been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :D
i wish i could see him play live.. im only 20 edmonton born & raised🔷🔶
You misspelt "Highest". Dude loved the nose candy, it was after all the 80s.
Well he had to keep his speed up 🤷🏼♂️
Not nearly as much as Theoren "Crackhead" Fleury.
Great video.
I played behind Grant on the golf course once. He was pretty good at getting out of the trees because he was in them on every hole.
Lolololol. That's a little hard to believe. He is a pretty good golfer.
Pewp Face yeah I heard he tried out for the tour once. He was golfing with Mactavish. He was slicing his balls sideways right off the tee.
He's also played a little bit of golf in some pro tournaments from time to time, mainly in ones on the Mackenzie Tour, aka PGA Tour Canada. When the Staal Foundation Open in Thunder Bay, Ontario was a tour event, Fuhr played in both the pro-am at the start and during the regular tournament. He may not have been the best golfer out there, but it was still nice to see him there.
I remember when he played here in Buffalo he was rejected membership from a golf course here in Lancaster New York I believe? I remember him suing and everything
You forgot to mention Sandy MCcarthy he was black and was drafted by Calgary in 93.
The great #15 - mixed race. Black and red indian.
I agree with Wayne Gretzky, Grant Fuhr is a very underrated goalie tender in NHL history in my opinion. Can you the Career of Henrik and Daniel Sedin please?
Gretzky said than if he had to put his life in the hand of a goalie in a hockey game than would deciede of his survive, he would choose Fuhr, even if he could have Dryden or Plante, he would choose Fuhr.
goalie tender? haha
totally an objective source. because gretzky would choose someone other than his longtime teammate. the oilers always were and still are a boys club.
fuhr was overrated and iginla was a better player. it's not hard to win when your team scores 5 goals a game. iginla had no supporting cast at all until he left calgary.
@@doaftheloaf Totally overrated. If the oilers had Billy Smith they would have had seven cups in the 80's.
In 2005. I met Grant Fuhr at French maid strip club in Calgary. Got him to sign a poster. 👍🏻🔥🍻
@Mike Keller it was a strippers poster. In Alberta you toss loonies and get prizes such as lighters, posters or fridge magnets. It’s funny out here at times. Life goes on!
Damphouse is pronounced "DamFoose"
Every 90s hockey kid learned the hard way :P
Also, its Dave 'An-dre-chuck' and Darren 'Poo-pa'. Sorry to be a pendant.
Ya I was done after that 😬
Steve Dangle said the trade tree that involved Fuhr:
"Yes, that's how you pronounce his name..."
I learnt all these from EA NHL games. Used to think Patrick Roy was pronounced with a hard R.
He is my idol. Reason I started playing goal was because of Fuhr . Guy was amazing to watch.
Used to love watching Fuhr play, he might give up 4 goals but not the 5th and the Oilers would win 5-4.
"Damp House", LMFAO
loving all this Oilers content!!!
Great name for a goal tender ' Grant Fewer '
I watched Grant and loved him he was the best in my mind. Oilers could use him again
GRANT IS MY IDOL AND FAV
Grant Fuhr. Fucking Legend. The world doesn't have people like him anymore. One of a kind. Respect.
Well done sir.
THose yrs in St. Louis proved without a doubt that Grant was a hall of fame worthy goalie and not just okay goalie who happened to play for a dynasty team ....heck if not for that kneee injury in the playoffs in 96..he likely takes the Blues to the finals..he was on fire playing like it was 87 or 88 again .
I have played with many players of different colours....we never saw the colour of their skin!!!! We only saw them as our team mates!!! I have been playing this game for over 50 years.
could you do a video on Val James, the first actual black AMERICAN in the NHL back in the early 80s? It would be a short video but you can still find his fight footage on youtube (he was an enforcer).
Fuhr was awarded the Vezina in 87-88. Other goalies that season who played at least 35 games and posted a lower GAA and higher save percentage than Fuhr: Patrick Roy (the only one with a GAA lower than 3.00), Mike Liut (highly under rated), Kelly Hrudey, Glen Hanlon, Clint Malarchuk, Pete Peeters, Brian Hayward.
Good video but left out important aspects of his international experience and junior career. His international play is well documented but the story of how he walked on at the Victoria Cougars camp after playing house league in Edmonton with basically tattered equipment and ending up backstopping them to a Memorial Cup championship two years later should not be ignored. Also, his coach in Victoria was the recently retired AHL president David Andrews.
Yeah. But don't forget that the Cougars had the Courtnall brothers. That had just as much to do with the cup as Fuhr.
@@Electricalphil Would not take anything away from them at all! They overcame struggles of their own, but I just wanted to point out how rare it is to go from house league to Mem Cup in 2 years!
Grant Fuhr and Bill Randford were the best goaltenders Oilers ever had.
Don't forget Cujo.
Iginla is by far the best black player. I thought that wasn't even a question.
Exactly my thoughts as soon as I saw the title.
Exactly
It's not even close, really
Agreed. The title is 100% blasphemous.
That being said, Grant was pretty darn good too.
@@MrDeefleparde I'm surprised more people aren't calling out the stupidity of the title
3:43 ... anyone else notice wrong glove hand... I don't think that's Mr. Fuhr.
That is indeed Andy Moog!
@@waywardson1663 lol yep
Would have said SRELIO but in reverse... you know what I mean haha
ONE OF MY IDOLS AND HEROES
I highly recommend everyone look up the Grant Fuhr documentary here on CZcams. I think it's 3.99 to rent, but absolutely worth it!!
um no. I will never give theytube ANY money
Fuhr: GOAT Goalie in the 80s and 90s.
Hasek, Osgood, Hextall, Roy, Brodeur, Vernon, Belfour, and CUJO were are just as good if not better. VanBiesbrouck was good too
Hasek
Mike my personal favourite. He redefined goaltending
@@tristanmcguire4820 Won the cup with the Wings I think.
DC322 yesss, I’m a wings fan that’s why he’s my favorite. He also was on the cup final in99’ playing for butfalo
I had a coach that played in the NHL in that era and said the entire Oilers roster and a better part of the league was a “traveling cocaine circus.” Sucks that he got punished that badly for coming clean.
I play golf with him every week. Maybe the greatest, but also the sweetest.
His cocaine use back then would have him thrown out of the NHL in today's standards.
You joking? A lot of rumored cokeheads now, and only a few have been called out on it.
@@pjhkoo He wasn't a rumored coke head. He was arrested twice for possession with intent while playing in the NHL.
@@andrewtingley2834 In today's NHL he would have gotten like 3 games, just like Evgeny Kuznetsov.
I go back and forth on this in my head. Is it Grant Fuhr or Jerome Iginla? Ask me on different days of the week and my answer will change.
Oh....how many Stanley cups did Iginla win for the Flames? Orrr, ever? Lol :)
STEVE W-K Fuhr played behind a dynasty. The teams are nowhere near comparable. Skill wise Iginla is light years ahead.
@@Infoseek777 Stanley cups are a team award idiot
Best black player??? Who cares !! Great player regardless!!
No goalie will ever beat that rookie win streak. Not a knock on him at all he was a great goalie. It's just that stacked team definite helped him get that record.
Great work overall but you need to tighten up on your pronunciations (Damphousse, Andreychuk, Puppa were all a good bit off).
He didn't really play that many games with the blues. If he gave up a goal early, Mike Keenan would pull him. He got yanked about 15 times that year. Keenan was an absolute psycho.
Keenan was a “mind game” coach. Story goes that it’s the reason Gretzky didn’t stay with the Blues
Grant Fuhr admitted to using cocaine during that time but there was no drug policy in place for the NHL during that time so a year long suspension was huge at the time because borje salming admitted to it but was suspended for the whole season but came back after 8 game. Grant came back after 58 games from a one year suspension.
Good ole NHL. Instead of trying to help players through hard times, they just damned them and swept it under the rug.
3:02 a Maple leaf player wearing 99,
Probably before it was retired league wide
@@Jose-ee2se well, clearly yeah.
Google tells me it is: Wilf Paiement
FYI, Vincent Damphousse's name is pronounced "Dam Foose", not "Damp House".
In fairness, the guy on this video is good with hockey knowledge and very entertaining even if things aren't always pronounced properly. It was the pronunciation of 'dynasty' as die·nasty (American English) rather than di·
nuh·stee (British English) which ground my gears :'D
He is one of the most knowledgeable hockey CZcamsrs on the web and he's British cut the guy some slack will you?
Not according to Harold Ballard.
Funny how its 2020 and still the Oilers have the same mindset they did back then have prolific goal scorers yet ZERO defense
I’m not sure he’s the best black player (Iginla was more important for his teams), but he’s the best black goalie.
This is going to sound dumb but he had an unbelievable starting cast in front of him Gretzky huddy Coffey etc.. So just to prove he was worthy his saves had to be out of this world just to keep pace with that kind of a roster and they were his saves were a work of art...It's easy for a goalie to get lost in a really good team's roster but not this guy he was as remarkable his peers.. His personality was As big as his saves
Johnny Oduya Ray Emery and Jamal Mayers
Anson carter better then all those
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The title should include the words "...so far". Eyes front people.
Grant Fuhr was half black as well, Iginla was better player in my opinion.
Good video, just a little distracting that every time the position of net-minder is mentioned you use the words net-minder instead of mixing it up to another name for the position of net-minder to talk about the NET-MINDER....just saying
People saying iginla was the Best but they are completely different positions no?
It's crazy because the only other black goalie I can remember was Emery
Kevin Weekes
Braithewaite
RIP Razor.
Malcolm Subban (PK’s little brother) is backup for M-A Fleury
Pokey Reddick , also an Oiler .
As a kid, I hated Grant Fuhr. When he played for the Victoria Cougars, he would completely shut down my Portland Winterhawks.
Who agrees pk subban is one of the best black NHL players
It was the 80s the person he admitted it to was probably on it too
2:15 love that mask 🥅🏒
Only 4 black Hall of Famers? I knew it was low, but that’s really low.
Actually only Fuhr and Ignila , the other two are some black chick and Willie because he was the first in the NHL .
Why are they saying he is black? He is half first nations.
Several times, you showed pics of Andy Moog instead of Fuhr. WTF?
Tony McKegney - Buffalo Sabres
In 1993 and 1994 we had dominik Hasek and Grant fuhr. If only we had Puck moving defenseman and another Winger who can Score 25-30 goals Buffalo could have had a so many cups especially with Dominic Hasek later on
He showed a picture of Andy moog.
Fuhr was quite successful in Buffalo. They made and won a round in the playoffs when he was starting. His leaving had more to do with Hasek becoming one of the greatest goalies of all time than his play. You missed the mark there.
Him and dominik Hasek share the Jennings trophy that year they both played a bunch
I’m pretty sure you show Andy Moog instead of Fuhr wearing a helmet.
Half black....the white part is what made him good. remember that.
Marlon Waynes stunt double!!!
No. Wayne’s was Fuhrs stunt double
Put anyone in nets for the oilers in the late 80's and you're winning the cup
Thats why moog won the cup earlier lol. He got swept by islanders when fuhr took over they won the cup. He won the most important game in oilers history he outdated Billy Smith 1 to 0 first game in 1984. Oilers lose that game they lose the series and maybe no dynasty
It's sad to say it, but it's absolutely true
I watched the Oilers right through the cup years and I couldn’t disagree more. Don’t you think a goalie on a defensive minded team would benefit? So why is Ken Dryden, Billy Smith, and Martin Brodeur so respected? They are all winners and scoring alone can’t win anything. Oiler players admitted that after losing in 1983
@@will-zp4kc Dryden's respected cause his heroics won their team the cup in 71 then in the late 70's he kept his focus when he would get sporadic action . Also he won the 72 Series . How many Conn Smyth trophies did Fuhr win ?
@@daveyboy_ not saying he was better than Dryden but he belongs up there in the conversation with the best of his era at least. He did win the Canada Cup in 87.
I didn't know he was black. I thought he was just well taned. Native American
Same with me. Maybe it's just because you're not a racist who always differs people as black or non-black like those "politically correct" ;) for me, he was a great goalie, for all those years I wasn't even thinking about him basing on his skin color.
Wow. He managed a cocaine problem beautifully, given what he achieved. Of course his once loyal wife, now an “ex” spilled the beans.
Can’t believe I didn’t know Grant Fuhr was black
because people were less obsessed with race in the old days. he was a good hockey player not a good BLACK hockey player.
Mein Furh!
Iginla has clearly surpassed Fuhr in terms of greatness...
Iginla has:
An Art Ross
A Pearson
2 Richards
3 1st Team All-Stars
A 2nd Team All-Star
Fuhr has:
1 Vezina
A 1st Team All-Star
A 2nd Team All-Star
Iginla has:
An Art Ross
A Pearson
2 Richards
3 1st Team All-Stars
A 2nd Team All-Star
Fuhr has:
1 Vezina
A 1st Team All-Star
A 2nd Team All-Star
1 William M. Jennings
5 Stanley Cup Championships
Fixed that for you.
This dude who’s doing the report is on some good edibles with nasty side affects.
I love hockey and have for many years though only recently did it begin to get the kind of TV coverage it deserves. Fuhr played on great teams, of course, but it takes an outstanding goalie or no team gets far. I remember Grant Fuhr but until this vid, had no idea that he was black.... which really begs the question, so what? Wouldn't have cared then, don't really care now. Great player regardless of pigment. Seems to me such classification as greatest black, white, blue, yellow or green player seems to diminish a players true performance.
At 4:57 Gretzkey looks like hes yawnimg
GRANT FUHR. GRETZKY. SERGEI MAKAROV
They are not a common occurence at all. There are more than 30 years ago. Even in minor hockey in my 30 team league there is 1 mixed race kid and 2 black kids
You forgot Canada cup 87 that Grant Fuhr won.
And he sucked. Played like a sieve, but team had so much firepower they managed to win.
Jerome Iginla says "hi".
IMO iggy is the best black hockey player of all time
Nah son it’s Reggie Savage Springfield Falcons LoL
Grant was an amazing goalie.
The 80s Oilers were all about offence.
Poor Grant "has seen more rubber than a dead skunk on the Transcanada Highway." Don Cherry
South Paw Goalie.