Heroes in History: Zhan Hu
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- čas přidán 18. 10. 2021
- At long last, I finally get to talk about Zhan Hu, one of my favorites of the Wu Lin. From their design, to their weapon, to their fiery abilities, the Zhan Hu excited me from the moment I started playing them. But what excited me more was learning about who they were based on.
After careful study and analysis of the evidence, I've concluded that Zhan Hu is more likely based on the Jinyiwei of Ming China, the secret police and elite guard of the Ming Dynasty. I hope ya'll enjoy this video. It was fun to put together and it has some really cool history involved.
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I'm very happy with the Zhan Hu as characters, it has historical elements but is still very creative and fits into the world of FH. Having a Chinese faction without fireworks/gunpower would be disappointing. Its the same reason why not getting the hand cannon execution was disappointing. China invented gunpowder and it is cool to see that represented. I could do without the magic rocks though, but that's an entirely different discussion.
We have a flintlock now, does that work for you? And Pirate is originally Wu Lin.
@@gammothguy297 It does, although she should have been put in the Wu Lin faction honestly, they should have saved a more exotic hero for the first of the Outlanders.
@@thewolfgirlexpert I guess, but I think the point was she isn’t affiliated with the Wu Lin, like the other Wu Lin heroes. She’s completely independent, owing allegiance to no one. I.e., the whole point of the Outlanders.
The Chinese might have discovered gunpowder and used them for fireworks/artillery, but the Europeans took that idea and ran with it. If anything, a knight should've had the first handcannon/flintlock.
@@oniemployee3437 You wanted ANOTHER knight hero? Are you vapid? A Knight or a Wu Lin were the only options possible historically yeah, however, had Ubi released another Knight hero the community (including myself) would have become rabid. But in the end the Wu Lin didn't even get a new hero anyways, It has been nearly 2 whole years since we got a Viking or a Wu Lin.
Ngl, everything about Zhan Hu gives me Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 vibes. Down to the armor, backstory feats and design.
I always found Zhan Hu as the villain of the Wu Lin. Kinda why I made mine look the most evil as possible.
@@GeistDrachen Same here, there's just something about him that gives off the sense of being cold and calculated whilst having a sense of beauty and elegance
Your comment really surprised me because I actually once tried to make a Shen based Zhanhu by using the red and white color from the christmas event and some battlepass patterns that made red feathers appear on his armor! He really remind me of Shen due to how fluid he is (at least since his rework lmao) and his clothing that flows really well with his animation. Not only that but Shen using canons in the film and Zhanhu essentially being an artillery specialist just gives even more credit to this comparaison, brilliant!
@@amos_fr6070 Well I'm glad it did and I 100% agree with you about the rework making him that much more flowy. Also, your Zhanhu sounds amazing and I wish I could see how nice it looks. But fr the whole artillery thing seals the deal with him and Shen being so much alike.
"Knock knock"
"Who's there"
"Zhan"
"Zhan who?"
"H-How did you know?"
6:34 That Yuan Shao from Dynasty Warrior as a stand-in for historical figure was amusing, but it is a nice touch.
I am very happy CZcams recommended this video to me, I’m a Wu Lin fanboy and zhanhu is my main. I always thought they had a cool backstory and lore, and zhanhu’s was the coolest to me because he’s like Count Dooku, elegant and dignified yet villainous and power hungry
"[...] they would oversee the training, discipline and demeanor of the soldiers [...]"
Well, if that's not Zhanhu...
I've used the nodachi and the changdao for real in my martial arts training and tbh, I prefer the changdao more due to the balance and perfect mix between a longsword and spear like attributes. Most historical changdao have a straight backed, one or even two sided blade that actually lets it stab and pierce better than the curved katana imo.
I was main Zhanhu for a long time and just now switched to Gladiator but I will forever enjoy the fire artillery warrior and the powerful yet elegant changdao
YOO i was really excited for this episode it will sure be amazing!
I love Zhan hu. Their design, fighting them, definitely playing them, the in game lore. And now this as well. LB will forever be my favorite child, so for further tempting me away from him thank you and curse you.
You enjoy FIGHTING them? They're so annoying for me😂
@@josiahhayes3423 they are one of the only heroes who can engage in dodge heavy fights while not just negating any and all risk and every dangerous move they have can get thrown back with either a gb or light parry punish. He can be played annoying when it's just nothing but light, ub light, and dodge light and nothing else but literally every hero has a "that play style" so I don't judge by the lowest common denominator.
Been waiting for another one of your amazing videos!
Even though for honor is basically historical fantasy at the same time it is cool how a lot of it is based on something you can find in real life.
That's entirely the point of medieval fantasy: Fictional elements, but with various connections to real life be it mythological, cultural, or military. For example, in the Elder Scrolls series, notice that a lot of the inspiration for High Rock comes from popular depictions of Western Europe during the Middle Ages, or how the Cyrodilic Empire is almost directly based on the Western Roman Empire complete with a similar military system, architectural style, and other things to the Western Roman Empire.
History like this is rather very interesting when I’m not forced to learn it every day!
Excellent video as always, never drew the one toon to Avatar myself but that’s pretty cool.
Your descriptions are so cool like honestly you can make anything sound cool
Great video, but you glossed over an important fact that your viewers NEED to know:
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
tbh the word changdao just means a long sword… that word could be any sword or even Chinese pole arms, the sword he is using are controversial. but the mocap actor of zhanhu is a person who practice a single edge double handed sword called miaodao. just consider it is a Japanese tachi, it is a tape of sword that been created at the qing dynasty, the last dynasty of China. it is highly based on Japanese swords, even some techniques are similar. miaodao is if not the last existing double handed Chinese swords that people train with. but zhanhu's sword in game model are definitely not miaodao.
keep up the good contents, never late for any video of your :)
I have been waiting for this for....some time now
Great video I learned a lot about the jingywei.
You voice and narration are incredible! I love it!
No home. Lol
Hades and gaaaawblin slayer were perfectly placed! XD
Could you please do Tiandi next. Would love to learn more about the Long Fist and his use of the Dao
Amazing video can you do raider or warlord next?
Very swag video I love it. - Kars
Tho I doubt they used such a long sword esp when the Jinyiwei are supposed to be imperial guards or assassins as they need to carry main one hand swords. Three movies that portrays the jinyiwei and such is pretty good :) 14 blades starring Donnie Yen, Brotherhood of blades 1 and 2
Thank you so much for telling which movies portray them well, ive been looking through the comment section right now and finally stumble upon someones movie suggestions. I will watch them either today or in the near future and to you i express my sincerest thanks. Stay safe and healthy and
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That ending gives me vitaneon vibes, nice.
Another great video in this series. My only critique would be missing pictures for the weapons you are talking about, because random Chinese weapon names don’t really achieve much with me…
The Dao that he is talking about is tiandi's weapon
glad to hear someone spelling the name correctly
Oh finally! Is Tiandi next?
Zhanhu is my boy!
Just so you know,the chinese warriors in the anime film are also Jing Yi Wei
I hope you do Tiandi next
To my basic understanding tiandi is based off of a Chinese peasant soldier, his weapon the dadao was a sword that was used to arm most of the soldiers conscripted into the Chinese army, but I would I would love a video on tiandi too
Raven knight exceeding expectations once again
YESS!!
Fire Lord Ozai is displeased that these guys weren't on his team.
YOOO lesss goo
This is good
yesss
Hey raven, do you think you could do heroes in history for some of the story mode characters, like Tozen or Apollyon
No, because the story mode characters are not based on specific people in history.
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The fire 🔥 is strong in this chat
You should do an outfit tutorial for your zhanhu character
I think the Dai Li of Avatar are based off Dai Li of KMT, a spy served for the ROC and known as Himmler of China. Their uniforms are also directly from the Qing Dynasty without a doubt and I don't think the people working on Avatar really know who Jinyiwei were. Zhanhu is definitely based off Jinyiwei for sure, but the lore also mixed with the Shenjiying, which is the artillery camp of the Ming who specialised in gunpowder equipment like imported guns, fire lances, cannons and many others including grenades.
i like him a lot
i really like how all the other harbringers are tryhard edgelords zhan hu is just chilling and only expresses desire to better himself
I haven't watched the entire video yet but i feel like i have to point out that the name of the character is pronounced more like "john hu" (except the o is pronounced like uh so technically "j-uh-n hu) and not "zan hu". It's really diffcult to explain since i am not an english speaker and i have a bit of trouble explaining how to pronounce something to english speakers so i hope you understood what i was trying to say
NOBODY EXPECTS THE CHINESE INQUISITION!
This is funny, I've actually customized my Zhan Hu in two loadouts to be as firebender as possible, and Dai Li (
It's no wonder Wu Lin get along with Horkos more than Chimera since they're strict on the strong and the weak
Also very ironic that Zhan hu is roughly translated to war ruler or war tiger. But Zanhu is hairpin
Awesome video, can someone please tell me name of the film 5:50 ?
Under the Power episode 3.
@@RavenKnightYT Thanks!
The Medieval Chinese equivalent of the Russian Oprichniki, both exist in the same era and both are their respective Emperor/Tzar's personal secret police.
What movie was that? I wanna watch it now
What movie are those clips from? The live action one not avatar lol
Be nice if ubi add in that caped outfit for ZH
It's either kensei, warden, black prior Orochi, aramusha, tiandi or zhanhu I'll main but I'm still thinking about it 🤔
So, a social point accountant before social point was a thing.
I wish they gave Nuxia a red guard uniform armor just for the memes.
What's funny to me is I thought Ubi would use a Miao Dao because of it's similar look to the sword those secret police used but it's more like a Bastard sword being anywhere from hand and a half to two handed but being closer to wardens sword then a greatsword that the Chang Dao is. Plus it has that fancy scabbard and I thought Zhanhu would be the first hero with a Scabbard.
Ngl I will give my left kidney for a Jian character
@@banditmc12 I was so ready that Zhanhu would have Jian. He is still my main, but I could have love him way more.
@@karelkral5266 some weird obsession some people have that orientals use sabers and daos all the time like bro jian is literally called the gentlemans weapon you can't get any better than that for zhanhu
Has Raven done a JJ video yet?
Not in this series no. But he has a 2-3 part series about the history of Guan Yu, the man JJ is based on.
Uh I think the Zh in chinese must be read like a soft G/J, for example jambon in french
personally zhanhu always gave me the Dai Li from Avatar vibes, now i know it's because they are bot the monarchy secret police
Jang jun next plz
😎👍🏽👍🏽
Btw zhanhu is pronounced with a soft J sound, not a ts
They sound like star wars inquisitors in a way
He ant afraid to die or step into his own flames of making
He used lines from Goblin Slayer Abridged and Mulan (the first animated film, not its sequel or that abomination of a live-action remake) at the end.
I sure did.
What is the show you showed called
“Under the Power.”
@@RavenKnightYT danke
@@RavenKnightYT ok I'm sorry for asking but where can I watch it? Sorry for not asking the first time
@@lilcreepy4257 It’s on CZcams
@@RavenKnightYT danke mein freund
hi raven
14:40 crowley? 🥺
Hey, you caught that! Hahaha! I didn't think anyone would get that reference.
Lol i love supernatural
:)
hedow :)
Where shugoki
I wish they produce chlothes for zan hu like in old korean
So, the Zhanhu and the tiandi are the imperial guards? Wack ig
Tiandi is more bodyguard and Zhanhu is more like secret police
@@phrogman459 ahhh ok thank you
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"Sudden assassinations were not only common but, anticipated." Further reason why Assassin's Creed should be set in China and Japan, colorized.
To be honest, I kind of ran with that concept a tiny bit. In my eyes, an Assassin's Creed taking place in China would best be set in the Ming Dynasty because so much political, economic, and other shit was going on at the time, and was also the era in which the Shaolin monks started developing their martial arts skills at a rapid pace. For a Japan based AC title, either the mid 13th century, or the final years of the Tokugawa Shogunate, specifically 1864, would be best with the latter allowing the potential for a Japan branch of the Assassins to have Shinobi act as their primary intelligence gatherers before the Assassins move in for the kill once enough knowledge on their target has been gathered. A Japan based Assassin's Creed title set in 1864 also has the potential for some Japanese Assassins to be secret Hitokiri working for the Western backed Imperialist military against the Tokugawa government, but were never caught unlike the real Hitokiri during that time. Meanwhile, with a Japan based Assassin's Creed title set in 1864, perhaps the Templars in the Tokugawa government hire groups of Ronin and send them out to act as bandits harassing pro-Imperialist villages similar to how highwaymen were used in Europe with the feudal system during the Middle Ages. Perhaps the Hidden Blade in Japan is more like a Tanto dagger than it is a proper Hidden Blade, which can also be used by Japanese Assassins to commit Seppuku in the event that they're either captured or feel immeasurable shame.
If only they give Zhan Hu the dao and the sheath then it will be perfect
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Though this is just speculatory
Holy shit bro how much time you got?
I'm not reading this but a like non the less
@@Christopherson2006 he probably jus copy and pasted it
@@masonbyrd4149 true
In the Tang Dynasty there was no changdao a two handed "sword" was name Mo dao no examples have been found but from what we do know it was a pole weapon which despite the name dao it had a straight double edged blade, the sword in the Ming Dynasty came from nodachi like you said I would add it becomes even more obvious with the original name wodao( literally meaning Japanese sword),chang dao or miao dao the typical names today were given during the Republican era.
While we're on the topic of weapons I have been meaning to discuss something, I know you have mentioned before that the guandao is the origin of the naginata however this is unlikely besides both being pole weapons with single edge blades they don't have that much in common when looking at the details and both their history, in fact the naginata may be the older of the two.
guandao was a Cavalry weapon unfit for foot combat or common soldiers and it's use as a actual weapon is limited pretty much use for strength training after song, the naginata history however is the complete opposite with no evidence for use on Horseback until about the 14th century.
Also in the ming dynasty we see the adoption of Japanese naginata sometimes called Chang Wo Dao, at the same time during sengoku peirod We do see at least some examples of blades resembling ming guandao.
Well I got my information from "Chinese Martial Arts: From Antiquity to the Twenty-First Century" by Peter Lorge. But I admit, that is only one source. Do you have another I could look at?
And yes, I did get my information on the guandao and naginata history from a source that I later found to be unreliable, but I have not gone back to retract my statement.
And as for the Chang Wo Dao, I'd also like to see a source on that, as I've never heard of this. Could you link them to me? I'm interested to learn more.
@@RavenKnightYT sure I should mention ahead tho I won't leave link as I'm afraid CZcams will delete them, I'll try to give some info so fingers crossed.
@@RavenKnightYT okay first for the guandao try to type in.
"GLOSSARY ARTICLE Yǎnyuèdāo (偃月刀)"
The first thing that shows up should give you what you want.
"Telling apart Chinese polearms: a quick visual guide"
Talks about mo dao and Chang Wo Dao tho not too deep in detail,and Chang Wo Dao I'm afraid I have not cross everything that talks about a too much I could try though.
"苗刀之祖，明朝长刀、单刀和倭刀（上）"
Here it mostly talks about the miao dao but does talk about Chang Wo Dao a bit.
Not sure if you'd be interested but here.
"Old or New? The Miaodao and Invention in Chinese Martial Arts"
It concerns the complex history of the miao dao.
There's also this CZcams channel I think you could check out name "TriEssence Martial Arts" he has videos on the miao dao.
Now that I think about it maybe the two of you could do a video together, would be interesting.
Zhan should get that hair style from 5:56.
What’s the name of the movie in this video