Jeep Wrangler JK - Rubicon vs Sahara
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2024
- Jeep Wrangler JK's going through a grade 5 obstacle at Moegatle.
Jeeps & mods (to best of my knowledge) in order of appearance:
JK Unlimited Rubicon Auto - stock
JK Unlimited Rubicon Auto - 3" Zone Lift w/ BFG MT 285/70
JK Unlimited Sahara CRD Manual - 3" Old Man Emu HD Lift w/ BFG AT 285/70
JK Sahara Auto - 3" Old Man Emu HD Lift w/ BFG AT 285/70
JK Unlimited Sahara Hemi 6.4L Auto - 4" Lift w/ BFG MT 35/12.50, Air Lockers
Apologies for clip ending abruptly. Used a trial version dvd ripper and could only get 5 mins of footage from the dvd.
I must add the last JK did make it through after locking both Air Lockers.
The 2nd last JK eventually went around after sustaining damages to the front axle.
I'm glad I found this for when people ask me why I paid the extra for my Rubicon. Lockers, disconnects a low crawl ratio and a skilled driver make all the difference.
this panned out exactly how i would expect. just from looking at the obstacle, very unlikely to get up without lockers.
That's quite a simple obstacle with the right tyres. I would have kept my foot steady and wait for traction control to kick in. I've been through worst in my Sahara and always get through.
4:15 anyone else think he was gonna flip that shit?
3:20 oooouuuuch , that is the perfect driving to BREAK YOUR AXLE . Nice video
Looks like a good way to fuck up your jeep
LOL, you could see that guy with the snorkel was pissed as hell that his Jeep couldn't make it up the obstacle and was willing to risk destroying his vehicle to do so.
1) These are not all stock JEEP, and vary in year's designs. 2)This is clearly operator error; Anyone who's "crawled", or even been trained in traversing such terrain in accredited courses will recognize that immediately.
Guy in the 2 door is all throttle no brains lol. Second 4 just need to stay on gas steady. The BLD needs some slippage before it can work effectively and you kept letting off as soon as it grabbed. Keep on having fun though!
CRD has high low end torque and turbo lag is not an issue there, looks more like the driver is a bit to conservative with the skinny pedal.
Crossed over situation where lockers of the rubicon will shine but I think that the open diff with brake assist traction control of non rubi JK's would make it as well with proper tires, tire pressure and some balls to push it a little ( not as much as the two door though :) )
@Rohirn i'm not any kind of expert, but i hear that the automatic transmission is much better for crawling, as you don't have to worry about stalling out. But i'm sure either is just fine
yes my friend.JK rubicon has all the refered advantages ,so i do beleive that`s a jeep for off roading addicts. but i meant that if the failed and good driver with sahara crd manual had auto transmission MAYBE could make this, after rubicon jk could show its worth to numerous and more difficult cases. by the way in greece jk rubicon 4 doors costs about 25000 dollars more than my liberty kk and unlimited sahara. That`s about it !!
It's a CRD. Huge turbo-lag. It's hard to crawl with that turbo lag. There's either no power or tons of it. Now add a manual tranny in the mix and it gets tough.
His choices were go slow and stall or hit the gas and possibly damage the vehicle.
Turbo diesel and automatic transmision is a bad combo for off road. I had WJ CRD automatic and everything is OK when you got momentum but once you stop in tricky situation there are good chances to stay there. I also have XJ turbo diesel with manual transmission and even with open difs and less torque it's much better...
Nice video BTW. :-)
@NemeanLion Having a snorkel reduces your horsepower by 10-20%. It's one of the worst mod he can do to the underpowered JKU.
the main difference here is driving skills.
6886miki And Axle ratio, edisco, and lockers. I've owned both. Stock vs stock the Rubicon is much easier offroad especially on inclines.
+Brawndo totally agree, i have drivin a stock jeep jk 2013 sahara for many miles (manual 3.21 axles)
That's true. However, unless I do off-road in watery environment, I don't want to lose anymore HPower in the Wrangler.
unfortunately in greece sahara 4 doors costs about $60000 my kk liberty $55000 and to buy a rubicon must sell almost a house :$80000- $85000 . Nowadays all diesel editions, after petrol costs about 2.2 dollars per liter.
So did the jku hemi at the end make it???
Should have thrown a tj in the mix.
well it looked to me that that stock rubi was having more problems...orange/red went up the first hill easier and the silver one, the one that said rubicon on the side had a more difficult time...
@2Phast4Rocket I didn't know that. Interesting.
which is better for off roading manual or auto transmission real question i am thinking of getting a brand new rubicon soon and i an a total noob at off roading i know i want to do it though still thinking about a grand cherokee though
Great video.
Rubicon is off-road king !
It's not that bad... when they dyno it with the snorkel, you have no air going into it like you would going down the road... there still is a slight loss compared to a standard CAI.. but the loss they show on the dyno isnt 100% accurate.
I wonder how Thar daybreak edition will hold up..
The third and fourth guys didn't look like they knew what they were doing.
+AlaskaErik They gave it their best but there is no way it could be done without lockers.
Go manual. Way more fun and power. A rubicon has a 4:1 transfer case too. Pretty damn hard to stall out.
lo q ocurre es q el rubicon trae blokaje de diferencial .solo por eso por q fuerza de motor le sobra. al patinar pierde tracción
Proof it's about the driver and not the mods. Stock Ruby ran through it no problem. The guy who kept stalling seemed more like a rookie. The guy in the red jeep was a tool. The people there should have educated him.
the brake system sucks. it still acts like open dif and feel almost no help from the brakes. lockers on the other hand, just need to bypass the transmision with a switch and i can use them in 4hi
The sahara's just have stock tires, theeses one are bullshit to go off roading, put good tires and it will climb well...
Just like to add my 2 cents in.... Tyre pressure..... Run no more than 1.2 for moegatle..... Sad to see a punished vehicle...
Ok any trail rider can see you need at least 1 diff lock to get up that, or you could tear something up trying...
So the JK Unlimited Rubicon Auto - stock was better than all?
the guy in the 2 door should make a vid called "how not to climb"
my belief is that rubicon is the best as it has locked differentials. but to overleap this obstacle needs driving skills who failed driver hasn`t. this opinion comes from my belief that vid is real not trying to raise false ideas!! i`m an owner of jeep kk with select trac 2 system and i think the failed wrangler could go better!! thanks and greetings from greece
wait the first one is stock ?!?!?!?!? :O
RUBICON RULEEEEES
Rubicon makes a big diff
How so? I purchased a 15' JK "Freedom" (New). It had the higher rated stock springs ironically; Then I installed Bilstein shocks, sleeved the Dana 30 front axle, swapped to 4.56 gears, w/locking differential (simultaneously), and programmed a DiabloSport tune & ECU....... All for less than the price of a Rubi off the lot.(?)
+ Nitto 33"s
yup my thoughts as well, if people are gonna upgrade or add aftermarket parts anyway then there is no need to get a Rubicon..
The last guy thinks his jeep is a rock bouncer.
هههههههه أي عليمية الله يصلحك يا سهيل .. الناس ذي حقت مخمخة ومقارنات يا حبيبي هههه
LOL! burgandy sahara is the funnest shit, rage much. I WILL MAKE IT UP ROARRRRRRRR!!!!! LOL
I pity the burgandy saraha
عليمية اكتم بنزين وبس ياحبيبي الشغله هندسه
is the silver jeep a diesel? and dude dont know how to drive a maual
Lol. Which was the sahara?
the one that has the same colors body and fenders
Driver mod!
Hey lets over inflate our tires and climb shit.......
I do better then both of them with my almost stock 2001 TJ (31" mud tires deflated to 20 psi, sway bars disconect front and back removed, 1.75 budget lift in front, stock (Rubicon 2006) coils and shocks, 1' body lift an.d skills... No lockers in front and limited slip in back Dana 30-35 differentials
WTF. Someone should have stopped that fool. This is a jeep and should have throttle control... lucky he didn't wreck the roof when he flipped...
hahah lekker
Guy in Maroon jeep needs to get a clue and buy a civic
lol... not a big fan of the JK...
Falto piloto nomas ajajja
Useless 4 door jeep.
It's the two door that did worst.
At least he wasn't a dumbass and lowered his tire pressure. More like useless two door drivers. Think they buy something it's going to drive it for them.
You mean the 'useless' ones that MADE IT????? Moron...