Why do we romanticize the tortured artist? (Sylvia Plath, Van Gogh, & 19th Century Romanticism)
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- čas přidán 11. 11. 2023
- This video essay examines the cult of the suffering tortured artist and why society romanticizes them. We’ll chat about Sad Girl Tumblr and Yearnposting on TikTok, Sylvia Plath, Vincent Van Gogh, and the 27 Club.
Are sad people actually… deep?
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Sylvia Plath and all of these characters that we refer to as the "tortured artist" are way too relatable for me. They're all (mostly) INFPs, and so am I 😭
I was exhausted and on anti-depressants from hoop-jumping trying to get specialised counselling and constantly getting knocked back and I didn't have the energy to write. My ex honestly said I was lucky that i wanted to write as I had pain to write about. Writing it did help but I'd rather not have the tears and inability to leave the bed or his attacking me when he found out I was self-harming
I hope you are doing better now! 🥰 Sending you virtual hugs
@@teresachaotic.corner thank you. I'm now single and doing much better and creating much more. I'm working to forget a lot of things he said to me.
When you're still naive you use suffering as a means to prove yourself to others that you're mature, then if you actually become mature you use the fluff to protect your mental health from suffering 😅This is why we may find that it's often the best comedians who lived hardest of lives, and why it's important to create things you're passionate about, not to prove yourself to others. There's a place for hard topics in media, but more as a means of actually providing useful relief, companionship and advice for people in hardships, not as a di... I mean suffering measuring contest 🤣
You completely nailed explaining this topic, amazing job and,
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Comedians really do live the hardest lives and their pain is manifest in helping others laugh. That's why they're so brilliant when they take more "serious' roles. Thank you so much for watching! 😊
@@teresachaotic.corner I know this is an old comment but I totally agree! I'm a big fan of comedians and especially the ones with like dark senses of humor. And if you really look up a lot of their biographies they have had really tragic lives. I definitely don't think it's fair for people that judge others on what books are music they like. Some people just like wholesome cozy escapism. And I'm one of those people! I used to only play like hardcore horror games or POV shooters. And then I played spiritfarer for the first time and then stardew valley and I am absolutely hooked on cozy games. There is nothing wrong with escapism.
And to me I think there's a correlation between artists and suffering because back then they literally had no mental health care. Or the mental health care made you a thousand times worse. So they HAD to treat themselves. And I think for a lot of them they turned to drugs or alcohol and used their art to help them cope with this mental illness they had literally no other way to treat! And that stereotype has just stuck around. It's really only in the last 30 years mental health care has gotten to the point where they can actually help people.
OMG, this is so true! I loved reading as a child and teenager. But only the books I chose for myself, not the ones I had to read for school! They were depressing, boring and sometimes very disturbing. Now I only read for myself! Fantasy, chicklit, romance... As long as it is entertaining and distracting. And why not?? 😊
I’m so excited to watch this video! A few minutes in, and it’s produced so well. The algorithm is finally showing me something worth watching 😌
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I like your video style. Vibe, substance, and point of view. Very stimulating
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Very interesting topic. I never thought about the fact that Robin Williams, ie, a comedy genius, only won an Oscar when he played a dramatic role, which he was great in by the way. I just want to point out, though, that Mozart was thirty-five, not twenty-seven, when he died. ‘Still very young, though. Also, those musicians, Hendrix, Joplin, Morrisson, etc, while their audience was mostly made of of Boomers, were themselves members of the Silent Generation.
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Personally idk how I feel about this video, I feel like there's substance yes but it could have been more. First I'd like to say that I don't believe making something happy is harder than making something sad, I think it is different to make. To make something happy can contain many overused tropes especially today but the same can be said for sad movies, I feel a good movie makes you feel something you otherwise wouldn't. So if you're having a really sad day you may need something happy but sometimes and more often then not I want to cry or be scared in the control of being able to turn it off if I want to, you can't turn off real life. Secondly this is just a little gripe on my part but I feel you really glossed over Van Gogh, he had so much to him and his untimely death is one of mystery even today. His life and suffering can't be described in a few sentences of "depression and maybe schizophrenia" where it was much more chronic and debilitating, he didn't choose not to eat rather he couldn't bring himself to. I do think there is some real meat and bones to this video but I was missing the flesh and blood
idk if u have seen the idol but it’s literally kinda based on that romanticization of the torture artist and it’s so ???????
Great video. I hate how the romantization of tortured artists keeps going on. I'm doing art not because I'm mentally ill but DESPITE being ill. No one would say that to someone with a broken arm that they create great art because they have a broken arm. As you said, too many people think suffering makes you a better person. And the reason for that is that the capitalistic society forces us to think "you need to work hard for it only then it means you are good at it and deserve recognition" which is completly stupid and in truth kills the process of creative thinking. I wouldn't agree with you tho that it's harder to make a sad person happy and a happy person sad. Because if we are talking about emotions here, tbh it's not that hard to manipulate feelings. Nevertheless very interesting thoughts, keep going!
Great vidéo. Background music is distracting though.
Because I'm cute.