Steven Pinker: Danger of moral panic over “fake news”

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  • čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
  • Social media companies face a tough choice in censoring their users. Steven Pinker joins Steven Edginton to discuss rationality, big tech companies and conspiracy theories in the latest Off Script podcast. Watch the full episode above or search “Off Script” on your podcast app.
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Komentáře • 65

  • @AndreiGromit
    @AndreiGromit Před 2 lety +4

    It is refreshing to hear Pinker express things with more precision and clarity than many many other interviewees on this podcast.

  • @TheFinav
    @TheFinav Před 2 lety +9

    Can't deny I learned a lot about the interviewer's opinions.

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 Před 2 lety +7

      Yup. His idiotic bias was sadly obvious.

    • @artexjay
      @artexjay Před rokem

      @@davehogan6589 in which way? he was asking fair questions, going both ways, highlighting the obvious bias on those social media platforms which are not wrong.

  • @paulrevere2379
    @paulrevere2379 Před 2 lety +1

    I like the idea of rationality because I am a champion of Manskills.
    A Manskill had three elements.
    - Requires Thought
    - Demands Effort
    - Produces some Good
    Being rational is absolutely essential to the first element, but I think a case can be made that it has a place in the other two as well.

  • @TabooRevolution13
    @TabooRevolution13 Před 2 lety +4

    I started a new country on the west coast in 2014 now I'm 1st King of the continent in the 1st Noocracy Republic!

  • @bradsillasen1972
    @bradsillasen1972 Před 2 lety +3

    Pinker shines!

  • @leafmealoynederpydeu85

    Need to read this!

  • @JaneHasGame
    @JaneHasGame Před 2 lety +2

    A rational interview all around

  • @italotter
    @italotter Před 2 lety +6

    I hope everyone listened until the very, very end. Pinker says, "thanks for the conversation." That was an astute thing to say. Anyone who thought that the interviewer was expressing rather too many of his left-leaning ideas should consider this a conversation style and not a classic question/answer interview. It was engaging content as a conversation.

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 Před 2 lety +11

      Interviewer was left leaning??? Nope

    • @AndreiGromit
      @AndreiGromit Před 2 lety

      Yes, I did think Steve Edgington was sort of 'leading the witness' in this interview. But even as a conversation, it seemed that Pinker was not willing to offer opposite opinions, although he did bring precision to ideas and opinions.

    • @garypalmer1122
      @garypalmer1122 Před 2 lety +5

      The interviewer worked originally at the Sun - a Rupert Murdoch publication, and now works for the UK Daily Telegraph. Both of these are right wing.

    • @barrynewlander1469
      @barrynewlander1469 Před 2 lety +6

      The interviewer is clearly a right-winger. He even manages to fudge some facts. Pinker doesn't really belong here.

    • @MrPaulervin78744
      @MrPaulervin78744 Před rokem +4

      left leaning?!!? HAHAHAHHA

  • @shawnburnham1
    @shawnburnham1 Před rokem

    4:00

  • @arthurpletcher7299
    @arthurpletcher7299 Před rokem +2

    Just to clarify, Mueller concluded that collusion likely did occur, but the case wasn’t prosecutable. Similar to how Capone was indeed guilty, even though he couldn’t be prosecuted.

  • @briannyob7799
    @briannyob7799 Před 2 lety +10

    “A lie can travel around the world and back again while the truth is lacing up its boots.”-Mark Twain.
    The problem with giving antivaxers equal time...

    • @elkpaz560
      @elkpaz560 Před 2 lety

      World travel your thing then.

  • @davidrandell2224
    @davidrandell2224 Před 2 lety

    How likely will Galilean relative motion have the earth approaching the released object? 50/50 at least, or many other options? An accelerometer shows the earth approaching the released object at 16 feet per second per second constant acceleration. Too simple for the modern brain. Rational. Sure. Aren’t facts rational.

  • @matimus100
    @matimus100 Před 2 lety

    Apparently praying and karma is going to resolve these world 🌎 issues
    What's the problem says the 🇬🇧

  • @duncanweller1
    @duncanweller1 Před 2 lety +12

    Pinker does his best staying on topic with an interviewer who is clearly right-wing biased and not particularly interested in rationality or the truth of things.

    • @desssunder5578
      @desssunder5578 Před 2 lety +3

      I find it interesting and great to hear how Pinker navigates such questions. It would be quite a boring interview if the interviewer just stuck to central questions and didn't ask difficult questions. it just shows how well Pinker knows his topics and highlights he's debating skills as top tier.

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 Před 2 lety +2

      Indeed.

    • @baigandinel7956
      @baigandinel7956 Před 2 lety +3

      Lazy, outdated labels assuming any of the "right wing" are not intetrested in rationality or the truth of things, do not themselves constitute any part of the search for rationality or the truth of things.

    • @wasdwasdedsf
      @wasdwasdedsf Před 2 lety +3

      yese, we all klnow rationality and the side of reaality is the one who unironically votd for an installed vegetable lwho cant speak, destroying the country in one year, over the best pres in modern history

  • @anteeko
    @anteeko Před 2 lety +1

    Fact checking has been rather unrelible to say the least.

  • @ladlane
    @ladlane Před 2 lety +6

    In the end, we gotta admit that Sweden ranks best in the world at handling the pandemic.

  • @christopherhamilton3621
    @christopherhamilton3621 Před 2 lety +3

    The science =/= scientists. Just because scientists may not agree doesn’t mean science per se is in conflict. This is exactly the literalist/absolutist fallacy that the religious/right inject into this debate as a form of their own (ironic) relativism.

  • @matthewcurry3565
    @matthewcurry3565 Před 2 lety +5

    Obtaining realistic information is a goal of its own right. He says there can't be quality, or perfect rationality yet complains about the whole thing. Lmao this dude is comedy gold.

    • @matthewcurry3565
      @matthewcurry3565 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Just_Call_Me_Frank well that is easy to say without explanation. Thus is the method of irrational people. Woops.

  • @leec4185
    @leec4185 Před 2 lety +6

    What Pinker will never get is that prosperity is no substitute for the lack of meaning humans need.

    • @EmperorsNewWardrobe
      @EmperorsNewWardrobe Před 2 lety +7

      Think of prosperity as the ideal political platform from which we can all find personal meaning. I mean, even Victor Frankl found personal meaning while captive in the concentration camps, but I think we can agree that that context was far from the ideal political platform

  • @sudarshankhadka8501
    @sudarshankhadka8501 Před 2 lety +4

    This guy is one of the best interviewers out there! More please!

  • @ZoeSummers1701A
    @ZoeSummers1701A Před 2 lety +23

    The right-wing conservative bias of the interviewer comes out yet again.

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury Před 2 lety +2

      Hmm... Yeah. If only it had been left-wing radical activist bias.

    • @ruairidhmcmillan2484
      @ruairidhmcmillan2484 Před 2 lety

      Which question was the give away for a political bias of any kind whatsoever? Why am I asking this, this is a terrible idea.

    • @duncanweller1
      @duncanweller1 Před 2 lety +3

      I agree. Edginton is beyond the pale with his conservative opinions, so blindly it seems that it actually makes Pinker's unbiased responses so refreshing. Unfortunately I think right wingers won't listen take in anything Pinker says. I'm astonished that people think Pinker is anything like Jordan Peterson. Pinker is left-wing and has said so. Because that't the only rational way to vote in most countries. The right wing has so lost their minds.

    • @matimus100
      @matimus100 Před 2 lety +2

      Right or left it's cowardly

    • @davehogan6589
      @davehogan6589 Před 2 lety +2

      Indeed!

  • @dottedrhino
    @dottedrhino Před 2 lety

    What a joke

  • @imaginationworker9144
    @imaginationworker9144 Před 3 měsíci

    The interviewer comes across as full of himself, over-emotional, and not intellectually qualified to conduct this kind of interview.

  • @jaygriffiths6793
    @jaygriffiths6793 Před 2 lety +6

    I found the interviewer more interesting than the interviewee.

    • @matimus100
      @matimus100 Před 2 lety +1

      He's definitely a sheep to the system

  • @MrPaulervin78744
    @MrPaulervin78744 Před rokem +1

    IRONY=Him (interviewer) going tribal "conservative" rant about Trump, while saying "alot of people" thought they were being rational and the prof calming telling him what was up.