Amazing defensive player (hand-picked by Ma Long)
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Amazing 12 years old defensive table tennis player
This player is only 12 years old. He is the promising chopper in China. He is hand-picked and trained by Ma Long. His name is Sun Yang. His future is very bright.
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Fifty years ago, there wasn't a preteen who could beat me. Now days they're beating some of the strongest players around. China has the best program, the best coaches, and a wealth of talent to develop.
I can beat any pre-teen! (using my rules)
Impressive at that age! Very fast with footplay also. He is also strong in counter attack with forehand topspin, so it is not correct to define him a "defending chopper". For now he is a chopper on his backhand side only. Give him some training years more and he will also develop a strong backhand loops. And he will become a top player, quite sure.
And he just won wtt youth contender Berlin and also podgorica
That boy is fast and he has a good forehand slam. He looks like a potential star, like Koji Matsushita or Joo Sae Hyuk.
Tbh he might end up as a sparring partner in CNT as his playstyle will make it hard for him to compete for a spot to play international tournaments
That’ s what the TT Word needs… love… yes but also more choppers 😜🏓 !
Yes, we do need more GOOD choppers, Joo Se Hyuk(after the japanese legend Matsushita) was the ultimate chopper, but after his retirement there was no one left to fill the gap, so recently being a chopper is a sub optimal decision
Incredible footwork
Very lucky kid, train with Ma Long... It is my dream!!!
He’s not lucky he’s trained way harder than you think you don’t know what he has to experience don’t calm him lucky ma Long probably picked him to train out of all the team
his footwork is amazing.
I used to be chopper but I'm trying to change my game. Now I only chop when the opponent is really on the offensive and I'm far behind the table. Other times I try to stay close to the table and try to finish the point quickly by attacking and putting pressure on the opponent. I believe defensive players need to adapt to the new changes, it's not as easy to win just by defending anymore.
I agree with you. Im mostly close to the table blocking and punching, but like you said if the opponent goes into offensive mode I take a few steps back to chop. I used ox before but now I use 1.0. Enough to give some good underspin.
I agree as well. Who do you watch ? Leonardo arata is a 2500, with good style.
There is also a Russian that plays close and attacks. Totally diff style than Leonardo.
@@bakervinci163 I used to follow Chiu Suuhua from Taiwan. We have very similar styles, shes very aggressive with the LP. I think at some point she was in the top 50 or close enough.
I’m pretty sure he’s playing against pips, which is really difficult to determine how good a chopper is. His loops seem to have very little spin and also why they’re so easy to counter attack, but still interesting to watch. He’ll be good in a few years
if thats not "good" then ig im rubbish.
If he's playing vs Pips, that would tell you how good he is, as I'm sure he doesn't play against them that much!!!! So better than you think I assume 😉😉
@@johndennis7764 pips is actually the worst to play against as a chopper. The person has much better touch typically since they don’t need to account for as much spin variation, and spin generally doesn’t matter as much to them. Chopping back flat hits or less spinny balls (especially on the long pips side) is also a lot harder. So no, I don’t agree
@@uchihadayne6506 I understand but my point was that he would chop against live rubbers 9 times out of 10. Hardly ever chopping against pimples I'd imagine. So that shows that at his age is very impressive in my mind..
@@johndennis7764 possibly. I don’t think his opponent is good enough to say one way or another, and because it’s pips I think it’s hard to determine. One thing I’ll say is that choppers like hou yingchao cause a lot of frustration to modern day elite players because of his use of heavy spin and spin variation. Because spin mattered a lot more to old ball and equipment, those old players have incorporated it into their game from old habits. It’s really difficult to teach or for new players to learn, so I really wonder about the modern day effectiveness of a chopper. Often times, they try and make up for it by a much better forehand attack, but I actually think that’s a lot less effective in today’s game.
when featuring players like this, it would be beneficial to also list their rubber and bat brand/type. Chopping at this level requires even more attention payed to the proper rubber thickness/type and bat speed/wood type.
I would bet ox long pips, but the best chopper in China currently uses a sponge with his long pips. I would also guess a jo se bat
I hate to say it but defense does not win games, offense does. That's why in the modern era of table tennis, all of the Olympic and world champions are attackers. However, China develops a few defenders so their top players can practice against playing defenders in case they face a foreign attacker in an international competition.
i dont think people play defense to win olympic or world championships, they just play coz they love the style.. moreover one in a bllion win the olympics, mostly a chinese. does that mean everyone else should just stop playing? there are many defense players that beat many high level offense playere and also earn a decent living by earning through playing TT only(that too defense).
Wow! The kid is good! He even twiddles his racket. But did I notice he was able to chop and punch w/ the red rubber on his backhand side? Or did I not see that correctly? What kind of rubber is he using?
Or maybe Ma Long is practicing his backhand against heavy chop?
Of course.
Thats what i was thinking lmao
If he really wanted to practice against a chopper, he would've just practiced with Ma Te.
@@notaboxofjuice True. But he wouldn't have let this opportunity go to waste and still practice his backhand against a chopper. I said this to disagree with EmRatThich saying he didn't use his forehand because it was too strong for the kid. I don't believe that. The kid could have learned from his Forehand doesn't matter how strong it was.
I suppose ML could also just have done a softer forehand instead of going 100%. No need to always go 100% right?
The most beautiful ( difficult) and artistic game: defensive. Attack is almost just brute force .
It's very difficult to attack well too, if it were just brute force, any strong guy could attack like ma long or others, but they can't.
It's difficult because you have to play against people who have no issues against defenders which is very common in high levels
@@zr5438 I'm not talking Ma Long, Timo Boll level. The majority of players are attackers ! Why ? Easier.
Most players are attackers because it is more tiring for the coach to train a player in defensive play
@@sauciuc007 exactly.
1:52 : Young boy says wait, old man says go!
Ma Long jaminan mutu 👍 he encourages his Junior to higher level! 💪💛💛🧡🧡❤️❤️🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏓🏓🏓🏓🏓🏓
COOL der darf mit Ma Long trainieren und das als defensiv Spieler!
Coole Sache von Ma Long.
Hätte nicht gedacht das es definitive Spieler in China gibt.
COOL he can train with Ma Long and that as a defensive player!
Cool thing from Ma Long.
Didn't think that there are definitive players in China.
This is actually good training for both. The kid learns how to chop and Ma Long practises his backhand against back spin
I think this will be the next popular play style on the men’s side.
This leg work is amazing
馬龍に厳選されってすげえな
He has a great powerful forehand
At 4:51 is that an illegal serve? Can you start your serve from under the table?
didnt he just recently won the champion in wtt junior?
Yes, almost back to back. He got second U17 and 1st U15 maybe is vice-versa.
@@putiputain1230 I think chopper may have advantages in junior games but his skills are impressive. Hope he can continue astonishing.
Nice. And he now in Junior is too God againist spinner from other country in his age
Other than twiddling, is there any ways to create backspin when pushing opponent's backspin ball when using long pimple for bh?
id like to know about the boy, what his blade and forehand, backhand rubber. is this Sun Yang U15 champ?
Coach, any information on what's his equipment ? I am truly interested to know
I don't think that's any of your business, you pervert. He's a child!
@@henryt9281 troll
Woow, to get to just see ma long is awesome. I wonder how he felt…
"his future is very bright" i hate that phrase. It always the opposite of what'll happen to them. i seen so many "bright future" athletes and stars fall short of such prediction. so lets stick just with technique praises
agree.
I also hate when they say great potential, potential to me is a French word that means, “not worth a sh1t”.
They raise just a good partner for training 😂
He's use long pimple or short pimple?
Thanks for the subtiles in french 🙂
I see sun yang switched to table tennis after his ban from swimming
LMAO nice one
Hey coach 👋 do you know what’s sun’s Equipment?
Defensive style is tough. Hard to play against heavy hitters and people with scary ball placement. Like all top players now play attack. Which proves the point "Attack is the best defense" .
Although I would like to see more choppers 🙌
Super,👍👍👍👍
I tried chopping once, I don’t get it, why is back hand used most? I feel I have more control and power with forehand chopping.
Usually forehand chop is harder to master.
Also you have a wider area in which to use the backhand keeping the blade facing toward the table with slightly less footwork. Try it.
馬特もだけどバックカットのとき左手もあげるのって良いのかな？
So defensive player don't need power only need skill?
Salam dari indonesia🇮🇩
I really think defence is useless in the modern age. I am surprised China still promotes it as a style worth pursuing. Then again maybe they do it because of tradition or to have the style to train against just to cover the styles available.
I reckon they would be better off just concentrating on an offensive attacking style with him
馬龍のバックハンドの練習相手になっている彼が、馬龍のフォアハンドをさばけるようになるのが楽しみ
かっこいい！
I want to see more defenders in top-ladder
俺もこんなカットマンになりたかったな
Baby dragon breathing 🔥🔥🔥
Хорош! Молодец!
He is going to be the next Joo Sae-Hyuk 😂
Ma Te!
Hou yingchao
Both! 👍🏻👍🏻
Impressive. But does not look like Long Pimples rubber on the Backhand, am I right?
man he look so scary because every time before he swings, its exactly in the same position
this boy been practising so much
i worry when you learn a move 100000 times.
Does anyone know if this kid uses lp or sp?
Uncle's attack too weak... The kid has good footwork, he can get in and out very quickly
台から離れたらフォアカットはほぼしない。カットマン（Chopper）とはまた違う選手。でも普通のカットマンでは勝てないから良い選択かも
He's already scary to play against!
He is pretty good for that age.
if you are a defender and train with Ma LONG, you are not scared of anyone else anymore, haha!
Pips? if so, long or short.
Count the ways the first opponent's serve is wrong: toss height - check, toss sideways - check, contact point behind the arm - check. Letting this stuff go just makes the sport of TT into a joke. What is his name - let's name and shame the cheats.
Amen
Would be nicer to see Xu Xin’s backhand vs chopper
Мощно
As a chopper I can say,that thе guy plays great,but he needs backhand attack using pimples.And he will be invincible!
Giannis does not like ur answer
@@ssl2928Who? "Giannis"?
@@user-zu2qw3gq5b gianis Panagiotis a greek defensive player which doesnt untilise his attack very often... He is probably aroumt the Top 100
@@timstopfer7485 gionis attacks are leathal , same level as top5 in the world, just that he doesnt attack from BH..but Filus does..the most exciting to watch
基本功真扎实
This is why China have so many wonder kids. Gets to spar with Ma Long😂
Isn't Sun Yang also the name of the Chinese swimmer who got banned by the Olympics?
Omg. Are you drunk?
@@Teluric2 0:14 see for yourself, google is at your disposal
Ma long just want to train his own back hand lol
Ma Long has to learn him correct serves. They were all wrong! He begins all of his serves under the table.
what pips she use ?
What? Hand picked and trained by Ma long?? Ma long hasn't retired yet didn't he??
Perhaps,they see the koreans are getting closer to the top. No disrespect. Just a thought.
He will change his last name to sun long
First [Ma Lin FC]
WHO will win Sora Matsushima against Sun yang?
Do you speak germen Ping Sunday?
Ja oder Nein?😂
せいかくわるそぅ
very good, but I don't see a great backhand..
His forehand attack is already as good as forehand attack of Ma Long...
Не чего особенного я не увидел.
중국은 역시 괴물들이 자라고 잇구나.. 주세혁은 그래듀 절대 넘사벽이라 못넘을거다 ㅎㅎ
要是中国再出一个像邓亚萍一样的怪球打法的世界冠军。。。
那可能全世界都不再玩乒乓球了。。。🤪🤪🤪
Wait, chinesse have defensive players? 😂
まったくないタイプだな
フットワークと返球の予測能力が人じゃない
18禁ドライブ
Léa Ferney is so better than him.
No defense in forehand - no future in defensive table tennis.
Hasn't hurt Filus any...
I see,that more energy is spent on the offensive attack than on the defensive strategy. No disrespect to both styles.
Tell Malong he s wrong. I m sure they will be surprised about your tt knowledge