FULL MATCH | MA Long vs Eugene WANG | MS R64 |
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Table tennis needs VAR becuase that edge/side ball was really tough to tell. Maybe it was side but it should have been shown on a display for the player when disagreements happens.
Why didn't they show it in slow-mo? Over a dozen cameras, and they spent no time analyzing the shot. I think it hit the side but still...
The ball was definitely edge. If the ball hit side it would have went down at almost the same angle. Nearly vertical. He was parallel with the edge and the ball came out at an angle.
@@maloghurst2741 I've watched it many times and still can't tell. This is the world championships and the ruling should have been conclusive. I can't understand why they didn't show it close-up. It was a shit call because of that.
I watched it a dozen times in 0.25 speed and it could go either way. I think if the ball hit the table a couple more mms inside then trajectory would definitely indicate edge ball. The fact that it did hit straight down didn't help Eugene's case.
Eugene shouldn't win any game. Look at this guy, barely moving around the table and just trying to win easy points. It's a disaster if youngsters try to follow this playstyle where you put fitness level at your lowest priority. Look at Ma long in his Mid 30's moves like a 20 year old. Now, that's something to look up to.
Congratulations to Eugene and Canada for great sportsmanship.,
The ball was definitely edge. If the ball hit side it would have went down at almost the same angle. Nearly vertical. He was parallel with the edge and the ball came out at an angle.
Agreed
It’s side
Nope, it went down.
First game I see from Wang, but he really looks like a work smarter not harder type of guy
Es un crack! No parece pero lo es .tiene mucho talento
That was an edge not a side !😮
That's a disaster type of playing. He was barely moving around the table and was crying for a point that was in the side of the table (even if it was an edge, that's not a point to be proud of). People who are crying here for his point are pathetic too. I'm glad that Ma long found his rhythm after the first match and crushed him the proper way. Ma long in his mid 30's, still moves like a 20 year old👏🏼 Now that's something to look up to, not the other guy's lazy style of playing😒
@@ani3327 The other guys is "lazy" but is on a World Championship playing against Ma Long. You're on your bed writing BS on CZcams Comments.
"Disaster type of playing" like you would do better. Oh them Keyboard warriors...
@CrypticComputing I'm not comparing myself to him. I'm comparing other players to him and how it should be. If you can't understand simple logic, then go to school and get an education!
We need 2 umpires for Table Tennis game because that edge ball really robbed Eugene in the first game and affects his morale in the other games.
or a replay system on the tablet next to the umpire. the game is broadcasted on different angles.
How about putting a shock absorbing material on the side of the table? This way if the ball hits the side, it would not bounce off but drop to the ground.
are you looking forward to pay mr. Xon?
@@JustCrazy.0_o he is the one who should get paid for this great idea lol.
Tenía a Ma Long como el mejor y lo es pero se me ha caido con este acto, el sabía que había sido buena la bola de set... Y se calla... Eugene te deseo un prospero crecimiento como deportista, porque como persona ha quedado reflejado que eres todo un señor!!! Si me hubiera pasado a mi, no sigo jugando, ole tu!
eugene wang got a new fan right here :)
On the 2nd slow motion reply for the edge ball it showed that the ball touched the edge very thin @11.16.
It is more a side ball than an edge ball to me. Because the edge ball is usually bounced back higher and side ball just changes its direction.
considering the angle I would argue, that it was more likely the side. He hit the ball already on the outside of the sideline, and not from the inside as he tried to claim.
He might thought to be right, due to his hand motion.
At least he didn't create too much drama around it.
I watched this point more than 20 times. This is a very tough call for the umpire to make the decision. I myself after watching this rally many many times over and over, I would said this is the "SIDE". I watched this video the first time I think it was more likely the "EDGE". When I reviewed many many times and I would said this is still "SIDE". By the way, there is nothing Ma Long can say...! But I heard the sport commentator said "Ma Long did not say anything..???" and "He did not confess...???" Ma Long has no responsible for the decision...That meant if the umpire called this is an "EDGE", Ma Long could has accept the call.
My question is. It was hit in line with the table's line. If you drop a ball from on top of the table near the edge, to hit the side, the ball will fall straight down. If any curve of the ball hits, the ball will divert to the side. Did this ball not divert??
looks like a side to me
Umpires shouldn't be calling these sorts of points. Let the players play and if there's a dispute they can make a ruling at that point.
That is really an edge for Eugene Wang. That is a point for Eugene Wang. The ball clearly redirected the trajectory when it hit the table.T
It looks more on the Side not the Edge if you use 0.25 slow motion speed to see it.
He shouldn't win any game. He is a lazy, fat player who is trying to win easy points. He needs to improve his conditioning and fitness and then come back. It's a disaster for youngsters to follow this style of playing where you put fitness in the lowest priority. Look at Ma long, in his mid 30's and still fit like in his 20's.
he was always chubby and that is his style of playing. He was and is one of the top North American players. BTW, he is 37 or 38 years old.
@Ed Y He is chubby, that's not the problem. Problem is he was barely moving around the table. Wang hao was chubby too but way more active around the table and had good fitness. This guy moves like he just got off his couch and crying for a point that was on the side of the table (Even if it was an edge, that's not a point to be proud for). People who are crying here for his point are pathetic too. I'm glad that Ma long found his rhythm after first round and crushed him the proper way.
@@ani3327
You’re making me laugh hard with your comments.😂😂😂😂😂 every single Table Tennis player has their preferred way to play, maybe he doesn’t want fitness and conditioning, that doesn’t mean laziness. He still managed to keep up with a high in the world ranked player through round 1 and I believe he would have done much better if it wasn’t for the side or edge ball point that probably messed up his flow mentally
Imagine how good Eugene would be had he the fitness of Ma Long.
he would be a different man.🤣
Man I am from Canada we have been saying that for a long time that he is out of shape and if he was in shape he would be a absolute fucking beast
Even with the same fitness level, skill wise, Eugene is still far behind Ma Long. Ma Long is also ahead in confidence, experience and mental strength.
Tetapi sebenarnya wang menikmati momen peemainan ini melawan malong yang sejujurnya dia juga mengetahui bahwa menang adalah hal yang mustahil melawan malong😊
I absolutely hate the camera view switching in the middle of a serve especially at the ball contact.
Yeah, it's as if they colluded with the players to hide the serves from the audience.
eugene wang best player of the world🍒♥
我不认为马龙会看到擦边不说，各位自己去搜索一下就知道马龙不是一次两次主动向裁判表示应该对面得分了，这里马龙没有说话只是因为从他的角度看不到球的走向，尊重裁判的决定而已。王和马龙之间实力差距太大，就算第一局让给王也不会对结果造成任何的影响，所以不要在这里用自己狭隘的思维说什么马龙“偷了”这一分
I read ur comment in English so Google should be able to give u mine in Chinese. Have u heard about Upsets. Would u have predicted Hugo Calderano's early exit. Arguably his skill gap from his opponent's must be even wider than Ma Long's.
@Olumide Adebayo Ma long just couldn't find proper rhythm in the first game, when he found it then it was all over. The other guy's playing style is unathletic if you ask me, barely moving from the centre of the table.
就算王不够马龙打，但这分就是擦边球
@@weiyinggan5405 球台外侧击球，如果是edge，碰撞后，这个球起码应该有往球台上方运动的速度分量。显然这是一个side
That edge was stolen from Eugene. I was disappointed that the announcers were not truthful in their take on the point, no guts. I played it back at .25 speed via youtube and it was clearly an edge plus the ball went in a different direction after it touched. That affected him mentally afterwards for sure.
10:30 commentator doesn't know the rule amazing... If you're hitting the ball from the outside of the table, then the ball has to bounce UP, otherwise it's counted as hitting the side and you lose the point.
The ball initially hit the net. I would speculate that to hit the net first and then the side of the table is extremely improbable. The umpire should have sided with Eugene.
pqp primeiro set foi quina e cad o VAR?????
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Bad luck for Eugene, that actually was a side. Though I can see why he got so upset about it.
definitely a side because he hit the ball on the left hand side of the left side and the ball went down, physically impossible to be a top
@@meys57 The barely touched the edge that's why it went down because it touched so thin.
You can actually zoom in the video and see it is hit the side
The ball was definitely edge. If the ball hit side it would have went down at almost the same angle. Nearly vertical. He was parallel with the edge and the ball came out at an angle.
Definitivamente es side
anyone who says this was a SIDE is consciously lying to defend the umpire. This trajectory is IMPOSSIBLE with side!
That was definitely not easy for Ma. Very inconvenient for him. Wang was tough.
00:14 wrong score on the digital scoreboard, that man's playin galaga he thought we wouldn't notice
I think table tennis should used VAR too, the missed decision from umpire happen in wtt frankfurt when WCQ vs Lin Yun Ju, 1 point in TT is crucial
That was edge
It was eugenes point
This dude has firepower but he can get himself into a better shape. I am sure he can move quicker and cover more ground.
Wonder why ML didn't take advantage of that and make him run more.
@@xonx209
He did! Ma Long scored a lot of wide-angle points. That was possible because Mr. Wang hardly strayed away from the middle. Wang's tactic is closer to the women's game.
Yeah bro I am from Canada we have been saying this for a long time if he wasn’t so fat he would be really really really good so whatever results that he produces in the shape he’s in now is absolutely amazing I think he sits around top 100 in the world pretty impressive for a guy who clearly is not physically apt to the degree that he should be
Mal wanted to rest the match. But because of this ball, He began to make matches by a wide margin ))))) Really stupid situation )))
The first set was clear for Wang. Who knows what have happened then
Mr. Wang Can ?????
13：13？！
Владимир Самсонов в подобном случае вернул очко ударом в сетку. Но тогда был решающий сет и решающий розыгрыш за титул чемпиона Европы. А здесь Ма Лонг испортил себе репутацию на пустом месте.
Ало это работа судьи Ма мог и не увидеть
@@user-qi6on3cs2w Спортсмены такого уровня всегда всё видят, а судья сидела с другой стороны. Это исключительно вопрос честной игры, и только Ма мог это исправить. Это на Ало)
@@user-hn8ch4oo7b он с того угла не мог увидеть и он не настаивал на данном очке, посмотри еще раз …
@@user-qi6on3cs2w Видно что ты к этому виду спорта имеешь посредственное отношение. За 38 лет, что я играю, могу с уверенностью сказать, что если Ма Лонгу даже завязали бы глаза, он бы точно знал, попал мяч или нет. Больше отвечать не буду.
duh it's an edge!!!!
Вообще в шоке, чистая сопля, почему не засчитали очко? Он после этого момента сломался и не смог играть, выйграл бы первую партию и не известно что было бы дальше!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+100500
Боковуха отличается от сопли. Это считается не игровым покрытием, следовательно... Да и Ма Лонг один хрен перевернул бы игру, даже если было бы 2-0 по партиям в пользу канадца. Разный уровень
It was the referee's mistake that ruined the whole game!
WHAT RUBBERS AND BLADE MA LONG USING ?
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Wtf Sammo Hung am Start
Ball was not In, it was clearly side, I don't know why commentators are on about,
Very misleading.
As they are not professional
Honestly speaking, most commentators seldom favor the Chinese players. The commentators first said side and then said edge, so commentators sometimes cannot be trusted! From my view using 0.25 speed, it is a SIDE ball!
Ma long se robó ese punto estába nerviso
IT WAS EDGE!
ROBBERY!
This angle is horrible. Will they understand it one day?
because ppl like it. its by far better than the classic angle. deal with it.
@@Lawandfun well all I read is people complaining about the angle.
From one of the videos they explained, not all sponsors are visible from another angle, so that might be a reason
Edge gang!!
how can u get a side ball from there tf lmao ?
Because his racket wasn't directly behind the table when it struck the ball.
kinda sad how the commentator was too afraid to simply give her opinion. "did you think it hit the side?" "well the umpire made her decision".
even the commentators did not know how to detect a side and a top ... it was 100% a side because the ball is coming from left hand side of the table and it hit the left side and went down... please not that if it comes from right hand side and hit the table it is a top but when it comes from left hand side and hit the left side and goes down it is a side 100%
You realize that the ball can hit the edge and still go partially down? It can bounce anywhere between up, down and anything in between (to the side that is) depending on how thin the contact was
@@kang_min_nal_ra That is absolutely correct! The contact was so thin and the ball went down. Plus the fact that the angle where the ball came from was almost straight behind the line, with an inside-out curving ball, there is no way it could've hit the edge.
@@kang_min_nal_ra when the ball coming from from the same side it is impossible to go down ... if it hits the top of the table it will bounce up or side and up but not down that is not a possible scenario. And by the way I personally think that most of the edge balls from the same side should be considered side because they are unfair in their nature. Specially when there is a doubt about them. The above example is not even a doubt from my understanding. I am happy to see what is the reasons how a ball can hit the top from the same side and then it goes down and not bounce
it was clearly a side...
Ma Long's sportsmanship.....😢
Why even make this comment? He shook hands, so what's your point?
No score is scored when the ball hits the outside edge of the side
Sorry people that was top edge into side.. Ma Long should of stepped in..he saw it too!. Eugene never forget that the first game should've went to you...Damn politics in just about everything these days... 🥋🏓 maze
Ma is not Timo!
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Eugene should have won the first game. There no way he can hit the side from that angle. Is against the law of physics.
😂😂😂
@@vinrho123 nice argument
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It was an edge there's no way the official can stay on the other side and make that call he was not that far too the side and the ball went over the net not around. The sound of the edge was clear and loud a side edge would sound different. Ma long looking like a deer in harks tells you everything. Eugene should have walked off in confidence when it happened his doubt made the official mind up that it was a side.
whats up with the female commentary? is she s Chinese politician???
Eugene is arguably the best player in Canada. That is sad.
How’s it sad? He’s a Wr top 60-70 level player, even though he is pretty old now
How the fvck is it sad? WTF are you talking about?
i agree, but for this reason: this was an excellent opportunity for the greatest player of all time to show supreme magnanimous sportsmanship, and yet he chose to belittle himself. it is sad for ma long. timo boll (the greatest table tennis sports man) would have shined in this moment.
@@robertmartian what? you wanted ma long to try to sway the judge somehow? that would only make sense if he clearly saw the ball hit the surface. since you aren't in his mind you don't know what he saw, thus you should have no position on what his reaction should have been. i wonder about the timo boll being the best sportsman in tt comment, while criticizing ma long, that stuff reeks of a certain worldview... but i'm not in your mind so i won't assume
هذا النقطة وصمت عار على مالونج شاهد الكرة تضرب الحافه واكتفى بالسكوت وكان يجب عليه أن ياكد ذلك لكن لم تكن لديه روح رياضيه وخرج يوجين من اللعب
Remind me of a fat Japan who win Champioship for an 50 years ago!
Definitely edge top not side
I don't know what's more embarrassing here, BEING Eugene . . . or BEATING Eugene?
12:13 is a profoundly sad moment for ma long's sportsmanship. as the greatest of all time, he had the perfect opportunity to show magnanimity and grace, yet he chose to belittle himself as a sportsman. timo boll, (the greatest tt sportsman of all time) would have definitely played this differently. ultimately, i believe the ball was side, but this is a completely subjective opinion; no one can know for sure, but that isnt the point. the point is how the best player ever behaved. very sad.
Why? He didn't say anything most likely because he didn't see it properly, so he left it for umpire to decide. Just becasue he's the world greatest he should gift all questionable points...he's a table tennis player not a santa claus!
I don't blame him. He probably would have been punished by the coach or higher officials in the organization. Win at all cost.
Это позоже на шоу матч какой-то. Это правило тенниса должно быть изменено. Боковуха должна считаться как сопля. Полнейший бред... И естественно после такого решения в ответственном розыгрыше, такой игрок поплывет
CADÊ O VAR DESSA PO**A DE PING PONG
Fire this umpire
Also ma long for cheating unsportsmanlike
WTT, that’s an edge ball. What’s the use of the cameras under the net or is it only used when it’s convenient for you guys. SMH 😒
That female commentator's accent lol...
Both commentators are really annoying
Eugene Wang is depressed...Started playing bad...It is not fair...
サイドだよアホw
well a close edge/side can be called either way, part of the game, deal with it
Eugene, don't be sad. Sorry to say that I saw it as a SIDE ball. So please cheer up and get ready for playing well in 2024 Olympics, you may meet Ma Long there. Maybe you can win and get even by an edge ball, who knows?
王擦边球，马龙不诚实
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Ese punto. Q le anularon a wang le valió las ganas de seguir jugando… ya no tenía sentido. Le robaron el punto
サイドだよアホw
历史上馬龙打得最差的球賽!無精打采無斗志!
ML was not a man enough 1st set he lost
Eugene not eating healthy food and not exercise
the commentators are embarrassing
It can be seen that Wang is not skilled in basic movements
ma long is too old and looking old. he might actually has mental issue if u pay attention to his face and skin.
You need professional help..
馬龍最近又回到25歲，靈活的跳動，帥爆的外表！❤
I thought there was no match fixing in table tennis...They officially gave Eugene Wang's number to Ma Long...
サイドだよアホw
Oh my God, how stupid it looks from your side, 1 set would not give Wang,s a victory, there are 3 more games ahead and there clearly would not have been this, these are completely different levels, yes, I am 100% sure that you did not see from 1 time and not even from 10 that he got
@@user-qi6on3cs2wi agree with u but in 90% but imo first set maybe will give him much confidence and he can win others. We dont know. Take a look at A Lebrun’s match with Fan Zhendong theyre also different levels but he won.
Regards
I hate that fake apology for the lucky points, not saying all players are no sincere, but to apologize then argue that point should be yours, that made me sick.
bad sportmanship from ma long, thats kinda sad. i lost some respect for him.
Elaborate on what he did wrong
It was side, not edge
its not clean for him, the ball change its way,and that means the side
@@user-db1iz3fw8mbull crap
@@SpaceyNotKevin it is clearly on the edge, and im sure he saw it but didnt say anything
Судья допустил ошибку,1 партию Ма Лонг проиграл. WONG благородный спортсмен,Ма Лонг должен был признать свое поражение. Необходимо видеофиксация,как во многих видах спорта.
Нет, видно же четко сбоку мяч попал, даже на скорости в 0.25 на ютубе
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The most important thing is that the stupid clown racket didn't winn ! All that kind of rackets are a cancer in table tennis. It should be their own competitions for those clown racket players. I think there would be no audience watching that kind of stupidy.
Stupid racked? What do u mean?