Raiders VS. Last Crusade - Indiana Jones Showdown - Rental Reviews
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What's the best Indiana Jones movie? Raiders of the Lost Ark or Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. They're basically the same film beat for beat, one's just more shiny and the other more classic. Tough decision, but the goons at Cinemassacre Video are here to answer it in this Rental Review!
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Sup guys, I still need to see the latest Indiana Jones movie from 2008... BAD BOY , I know ;)
Last Crusade, Harrison Ford looking for James Bond... LOL
No Thanks! LOL!
if you are going to advertise atleast some retro steam games
Never
I always saw the 'let it go' scene in Crusade as symbolic of Indy and his father's relationship. Indy was trying to garner his father's respect by retrieving the the object of his life-long obsession. His father telling him to let it go showed that Indy was always more important to him, he just never showed him in traditional ways.
Interesting 🧐
It’s literally the most pivotal scene in the whole movie in terms of character development. 👍
The reason Henry Jones Sr telling Indy to let the grail go is so important is because this is a man who spent his entire life obsessing over this cup, to the point that he never had time for his child or wife (though according to him, Indy's mom understood that so well that she didn't tell him she was sick). And yet he's the one saying that in the end, it's not worth it. What's important isn't that Indy is being told to let go, it's the context behind it.
Bam! Case closed.
Also, the fact that he calls Indiana by his preferred name and not Junior.
But the thing is that that's a character moment for Henry Jones Sr. and not for Indiana, so I kinda see what they're talking about in that sense
@@doctjoe The film is about the relationship between them. When Indiana sees his dad wanting to help him instead of having the one thing he had desired his whole life, that relationship was strengthened.
@@doctjoe It is absolutely a character moment for Indiana, he's a guy driven by his profession (Archaeology) who comes to realise there are more important things to life.
Me and my dad we always watch The Last Crusade for Father's Day every year it's our favorite Indiana Jones film.
oh...i want to reconcile with my father to do the same, i will talk to him soon
I FD did you yet?
@@HereIsWisdom1318 not at all, we are so different and he has too much ego.... I don´t have also enough willpower to spend it at different cases, im mostly focusing on myself, i usually talk to ytb to try to find myself among these weird talks
@@ifd4626 I hope you and your Dad become closer, best of luck :)
My dad introduced me to Indiana Jones with raiders. I always remember that when I watch it.
Mike at 8:29 lol
“The Arc has ghosts and all these crazy lightning beams coming out of it and the Holy Grail is literally like ‘Oh it’s the shittiest cup over there.’”
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull best one hands down
Ark*
His father didn’t give Indy that disapproving glare because he killed someone, he did it because Indy was laughing his head off and being gleeful about it.
That's how i've always seen as
Agreed.
Here is part 2: Temple of Doom VS. Crystal Skull. 💀
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Cinemassacre Yes, please take a shit on your viewers by comparing temple of doom to crystal skull.
I mean legit from the things you said about temple of doom here it is very clear maybe you guys have never seen it.
???!! ? ? ??!?!?!!! a little dark? ? ? ?!!! ?!??! !!?!?!?!?! ?!?!? !?!?!? !? !? !? !?! 1
Could you just do Temple of Doom vs Howard the Duck instead
But Temple of Doom is the best of the entire franchise!!
Temple of Doom kicks Crystal Skull’s ass and that’s a certified fact!
@BadPeople1100 It is the best! You are completely correct!
The Last Crusade gets my vote, Sean Connery puts it over the top
He was definitely why I preferred it growing up. Him + what happens when the Ark is opened in Raiders = young me preferring Last Crusade.
I think they're solidly tied for me as an adult though.
The story and constant movement does it for me. It doesn't ever slow down really.
Nah raiders
You have chosen...wisely
the scene where Indy is talking about how well versed Marcus Brody is in blending into other cultures and then the scene transitions into Brody asking if anyone speaks english puts The Last Crusade over the edge for me.
The grail didn’t kill him. The “not grail” killed him...I think
He chose... poorly...
yeap. if i remember correctly, elsa chose the wrong one for him...probably on purpose
The “let it go” moment is the moment when Sean Connery’s character calls Indiana by his name rather than junior. It was his was of saying, “You don’t have to keep trying to earn my respect, you have it.” It’s a great father and son moment. It doesn’t make Indiana weaker. If anything, it shows that he has done more than necessary to impress his father.
6:59 Henry Jones Sr. blowing up the truck isn't an inconsistency, it's character development. After that Marcus looks at him surprised, and Henry responds saying, "this is war." He has changed where he still doesn't like killing, but will do it when necessary for the grail and his son.
I was watching Last Crusade today and I always found funny that that moment came right after the whole “the pen is mightier than the sword”
Agreed
It's also a mirror of an earlier moment. Sr. says "look what you did" after Indy guns down a bunch of Nazis at the castle nonchalantly and then later Marcus says "look what you did" to which Sr. says "it's war!"
Also I feel that the "let it go " scene was lost on mike , the whole movie Indies dad was obsessed with finding the grail, to the point he had neglected indie .
This was adressed in the blimp scene ,when indie pointed this out at which point Indies dad called him out and said well I'm here?
What do you want to talk about then?
Indies dad also scallded him and dismissed him threw out the movie , is this what you call archeology?
Also senior called him junior threw out the movie ,belittling him...."his name is junior" dad!! " well that's his name Henry Jones junior we named the dog Indian " I have fond memories of that dog.
When the blond falls to her death after she was obsessed with the grail and indie dives to grab it.
Indies dad yells junior!
But when Indies dad grabs his sons hand he see indie is trying to reach for the grail wanting to grab it " I can grab it" Indies dad says "Indiana let it go ".
Of all people that would know about being obsessed about getting the grail Indies dad would know ,regardless Indies dad doesn't want to lose his son over the grail even though most of his life he has been looking for it .
So Indies dad says "Indiana let it go" he didn't say "junior" he said Indiana...because he knew his son liked to be called that to get his attention and the he said let it go .
As in ,it's not worth losing you over .
"Indiana Let it go"
These are really good points. Underrated comment.
Mike came ready to debate. He took this seriously.
llcoolray3000 it gets lonely in the mom and pop section. I came refreshed and ready for a serious debate. About boulders and snakes.
He should be subbed in more often.
Would you call that, the master debate?
@@JamesNintendoNerd You represented yourself, your points, and your counterpoints well.
@@JamesNintendoNerd You...came. Yep. That about sums it up.
“The Return of the Great Adventure” is the tagline on the 1982 rerelease of the film. It was literally referring to itself, not the films that inspired it. It is not attached to the original 1981 release of the film.
You are 100% correct.
Henry Killing nazis isn't an inconsistency.
They both do.
He makes a face at Indy because Indy is reveling in the act of murder instead of acknowledging it as a solemn necessity.
Mike seemed intent on shitting on every aspect of that movie. I agree it wasn't inconsistent at all. It takes his dad awhile to acclimate. By the time he blows up the tank he has already come to understand what's at stake and what needs to be done.
You can't do that you don't have a license to kill!
And because he is his son
Last Crusade is the "Empire Strikes Back" for the Indy Trilogy.
From what I recall, More people prefer raiders as that type, but I see where you’re going.
I thought Temple was.
@@nickb9718
A. ToD is a prequel, not a sequel,
B. They don't just mean that ESB came 2nd, they're talking about the feel (and I guess chronologically it is actually 2nd since ToD is a prequel)
@@Richard_Nickerson I know. What I mean is that they are both darker second instalments to trilogies. Even ROTJ and Last Crusade are both lighter then the previous films.
To me the look that Indy's father gave him was the"I'm not impressed" look
5:04 "His father has to convince him to not grab the grail. I think that makes Indy a much weaker character."
Nobody's perfect. Sometimes you need a reminder from you friends or family. Indy's fingers were right on the grail. Sometimes temptation can really get you.
I think the idea of that scene is that Indy's father ignored him all his life in favour of his quest for the grail but, with the grail finally in reach, he realized that family was more important.
@@reeses58 exactly. That's the point of that scene. That he finally let's go of his lifelong quest that's caused him to ignore his family, he knows its time to let go. He doesn't need this, he's been proved correct and that's enough. His quest is over.
Also Indiana Jones is an archeologist and a historian, and its a theme throughout the third movie that Indy wants to preserve these things for historic purposes. The opening scene of young indy has him repeating "this belongs in a museum". That scene sets up that Indy wants these things, not for himself or any other selfish reasons but for their historical preservation. He's reaching for the Grail to preserve it, so it exists for future generations. His father, on the other hand, has not only repeatedly warned about the power of the grail throughout the film, but he's also not a field archaeologist, he's an academic. So that scene isn't just father and son, it's field and theory, it's youth and experience meeting and so on.
For his father, having his theory work proved correct was enough. For Indy, theory is only part of it, the preservation of the object is his main objective. It's symbolic, being the last crusade, of Indy letting go of field work and moving into bookish academia as he ages (and aging/time is a big theme of the movie, tying into the eternal youth of the grail)
A lot is said in that scene, and I disagree with Mike that it makes him a weaker character.
Great comment
@@reeses58 Nailed it and I was hoping the Cinemassacre guys brought this up. It needed to be the father to complete his character arc. Now he -- the only who neglected Indy in favor of the Grail all his life -- is the one telling him to let it go. In a sense he's also telling himself this. Now Dad loves and is devoted to his son finally. It's beautiful.
It doesn't make him a weaker character. That WAS his character. He made his whole life about chasing relics. How would that have made him weaker? He had to overcome his desire to find truth in the cup, to save his life and his father.
The answer is Temple of Doom.
The answer is National Treasure staring Nic Cage.
KALI MAAAAA!
I CONCUR.
I think it has more memorable scenes than any of them.
I actually think that's the worst of the series. Fight me.
Relationship between Indiana Jones and his father makes Last Crusade extra special
RIP Sean Connery 1930 - 2020
You'll be missed bond, the OG James Bond
This video belongs in a museum 😁👌
It might end up in a crate instead.
SO DO YOU!
kduhtdkzrt But who’s handling the crate?
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Nathaniel so do you!!!!! Throw him overboard!
temple of doom is the most heroic one he saves a village instead of hunting a artifact
@@noeditbookreviews AH I always for get the last three words! I often go too my son when we horse play and go KA LI MAAAAAA and pretend like I'm ripping his heart out. He will then do the same exact thing, always makes me so proud.
Honestly, I love Raiders of the Lost Ark the best. It’s a landmark in cinema and considered to be one of the best action movies of all time. Along with Die Hard, the Matrix, the Dark Knight, Max Max Fury Road, and Mission Impossible: Fallout. But I also love Last Crusade. My second favorite Indy film.
My favorite will always be Raiders. Growing up my dad always liked Temple of Doom so we watched that one more than the other 2. I think the intro for Raiders is what always triggers the adventure and excitement of Indiana for me and when I was a kid I always thought it was be awesome to be going on adventures with him.
You chose... poorly.
The best is obviously kingdom of the crystal skull.
The answer is the opening to UHF
YEEEEESSSSSS!!!
Weird al was the best Indiana... and Rambo
You beat me to that. They need to review UHF.
Good work
The Duck Tales episode with Flintheart Glomgold vs Scrooge in the temple is the best
Last Crusade but both are epic
At least we can all agree Crystal Skull was the worst
Nah it was the best one.
Best*
Bryce McKenzie Definitely the worst one.
temple
Of course!
I like how James and Kieran say their favorite is Crusade but can't stop talking about Raiders! XD
No ticket! 🎫
Best one liner 😂😂😂
Dredd (the remake, not the one with Stallone) has the best "falling scene " ever.
Crusade, hands down. Not even close. "I'm shorry shon.....they got ush"
That is the #1 humorous Indy scene but I prefer Raiders. Both 10/10
The most coolest part of The Last Crusade is when young Indiana (River Phoenix) gets his hat from another adventurous grave robber.
I found that entire opening sequence to be contrived
@@JC19021 It's the deciding factor for choosing raiders over it for me
I'm a Last Crusade guy myself, just because something is more badass obviously doesn't mean its better. I dislike arguments that complain that the Last Crusade is not enough like Raiders, but also say that it should be more like it (Making Indy more/less badass, etc.) Either way think we can all agree that Crystal Skull is the weakest of the saga.
Crystal Skull was awful. At least Temple of Doom had a lot of great scenes, Crystal Skull had a few okay scenes and that was it.
@@drlight6677
You're crazy crystal skull had a lot of crazy scenes you people are just nostalgia nerds
Imagine a world where “The Last Crusade” ended the series. Absolutely Perfect.
dakritic yep
KOTCS isn't even that bad
Littleboyboi: Lol... best joke I’ve heard all day.
Well they still made Temple of Doom.
@@samuelbarber4154 Thank God they did
I love the blimp scene we’re Indy was dressed as a waiter and he slugs the nazi member and throws him off board and says no ticket and the crowd panics and brings out there tickets in fear
Why didn't you let Tony do a review of Carolina Jones?
Raiders has SO many classic, iconic scenes. It’s hard not to put it #1.
Best Jones Films--best to sucks:
1. Carolina Jones
2. Last Crusade
3. Lost Ark
4. Temple of DOOM
5. Crystal Shit
For my entire childhood that's what I thought real punches sounded like.
PSsCH!!
Avgn should do a video on the other Indy games like Fate of Atlantis, Emperors Tomb, Staff of Kings, Infernal Machine and the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles on both NES and Genesis.
Thumbs up for this everybody!
but fate of atlantis was a great game. And I actually hoped it would become the 4th movie, would be way better then the crystal skull crap
@@LuriTV I know it is a great game. I'm just saying.
Staff of Kings wasn't half bad. The story was cool. However, it's downfall was releasing on a dying console and having PS1-level graphics.
FoA had everything it needed to be the actual 4th movie. Too bad Disney owns it now.
I'm definitely in the "Why not both?" camp
This is a tough one. It's by far my favorite film franchise. Between Raiders and Last Crusade, It has to be a draw for me as well. Both are masterpieces in their own right. I do have one humble opinion on the ending of Crusade that people seem to be debating here. Indy’s reaching for the grail and can almost reach it. The temptation is overwhelming. It doesn’t make him weak; it makes him human. The film isn’t just about a treasure hunt. I’d argue that it’s primarily a father/son re-connection story and that moment (along with the look on Indy’s face during the hug after Henry thought he’d gone over the cliff) was the pinnacle. The grail. Their acrimony. They “Let it go” and it was a beautiful moment. The boy needed his father and his father finally came through.
temple of doom is best
"Marcus Broady sticks out like a sore thumb, we'll find him"..... "The hell you will. He's got a two day head-start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan. He speaks a dozen languages and knows every local custom. He'll blend in, disappear and you'll never see him again. With any luck he's got the grail already"... Cut to Marcus..."Anyone speak English? Or Ancient Greek?.. No I dont water, fish make love in it." 🤣🤣 Best Part! Crusades #1 for me.
incitatus that scene is utterly amazing.
What a comment what a scene 😂😂 it’s Harrison Fords totally dead serious delivery that sells it
@@comedychrises Classic! Then it cuts back to the Jones' and Senior questions Indiana about Marcus and he says "Are you kidding! Marcus once got lost in his own museum" LOL
This was a great video. It was easy to see you guys had a lot of fun making it, and the knowledge dropped was fantastic.
It's always great seeing Mike do these!!! Keep him as a regular!!!!!
Hey Tony stabbing eyeballs.
Film suggestions:
Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
The Rocketeer
*Correction* the grail didn't kill someone. 'He chose poorly'
"We named the DOG, Indiana." The Last Crusade, hands down, is my fave. Saw it in the movie theater when it released in '89.
The ageing/skeleton thing isn’t CG. It was done practically too.
I remember that bit freaked me out as a kid
It seemed like it was more of a stop-motion technique.
Was it stop motion?
FoxMcloud 98 That's what Google is for, if you don't knot that.
Yeah it was stop motion, not CGI. Fox Mcloud 98, Stop Motion is a process of manipulating a character (usually made of some kind of rubber with a metal skeleton) one fame at a time and works similar to animation except you are shooting three dimensional object one slight movement at a time rather than a series of slightly different drawings.
I don’t get why Temple of Doom gets so much Hate. It was always my favorite.
agreed
Me 2
Im here for this comment
It's a very good movie. Not *as* good as 1 or 3, but definitely a classic.
soccer moms
I grew up watching Zorro's Fighting Legion and LOVED seeing it playing in the background and your referring to it, because I noticed the same things about Raiders. Great video!
1. Raiders
2. Last Crusade
3. Temple of Doom
4. Bleh
That's similar to my list.
1. Raiders
2. Last Crusade
3. Temple of Doom
4. That's it. That's all of the films.
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull best one hands down
The Invisible Man 1. Last Crusade
2. Raiders
3. Temple of Doom
4. Kingdom of the Crystal Skyll
1.Raiders2Temple3LC4wait there’s a 4th
Crystal skull is actually one of the better movies unless you're some kinda nerd
Temple of Doom was my favorite. Last Cruesade is a very close second.
You are WRONG
Noe, yoeu are coerrect. Teumple of Deoum is the beust. Laist Cruesade is alseau quite geoud.
im def in this camp :)
It's just as good as the other two for sure
interesting
Why not include Temple?? My favorite anyway.. you should create a poll of the original three. They're all good just grew up with Temple.
"Temple of Doom VS. Crystal Skull" is next week.
Temple of Doom is a favorite amongst a minority of Indy fans.
It's definitely better than Crystal Skull. At least.
Because Temple sucks obviously
@@AA-BB no it's different
@SN A Temple of Doom is better than Return of the Jedi
It's amazing to see your videos.Ever since I watched AVGN episode 24,I wondered what was the name until I found it.Thanks,Cinemassacre.
I love temple of doom. It's like a horror movie
Agree about raiders but temple of doom seems to have more scary imagery and creepy atmosphere.
Does Kieran ever change his clothes?
He has multiple copies of the same clothes. Like David Lynch does. And me 🙂
Like Batman's closet in Batman Returns.
Or brundlefly
@@kaprelesartware Or Einstein.
Einstein purchased a load of the exact same clothes because he didn't want to have to decide what to wear every day - a waste of brain power, he felt - so he just decided once and then bought it multiple times.
Like Ernest
Everyone is debating if Raiders or Crusade is better.
And I'm just sitting here thinking Temple of Doom is the best.
FINALLY Mike is in rental reviews!!!
Kieran at the end should have shouted "stabbing eyeballs!"
Temple of Doom is #1 in my book.
I’m digging the smooth jazz background music. And, oh, Raiders. All day, Raiders.
So far this series I think it's been by far the best James keep it up man you and the guys are very entertaining as well as hilarious and I like the reviews.
I'm a crazy one that loves Temple more than the others lol
The one Tony was watching is the best one.
The porno
It is always cool to see Mike.
I think Mike made the best arguments here. RAIDERS pretty much established everything about the franchise that made it iconic. When you just think of "Indiana Jones," everything you think of is right there in the first movie. None of the other films ever really added anything to the series; LAST CRUSADE added a little bit with the father dynamic, which was okay, but it really wasn't much.
After Henry blows up those Nazis Marcus Brody questions him and he answers "It's war" just like Indiana did to Henry earlier in the movie.
Steffen Leiros They totally missed the arc of Henry realizing that killing is sometimes necessary by the end of the movie.
12:20 The Raiders poster that says "The Return of the Great Adventure" was a 1982 re-release poster. The "return of the great adventure" was referring to itself. The original Raiders poster only mentioned it was from the creators of Star Wars and Jaws.
These reviews make me laugh so damn much. Excellent as usual
Loved the video! There was a lot of interesting analysis of different things for each movie.
Oh numb Shaba, oh numb Shaba, oh numb Shaba, Temple of Doom the best.
Incredible content as always fellas! I just watched Temple of Doom and Crusade last night! Nice coincidence.
The Last Crusade is my favourite for sure, but both are great. I love these Rental Reviews, I started watching right from the start and the more I watch, the more I think it's the best Cinemassacre show, right behind the Nerd of course. I like the different perspectives offered by everyone with each movie. No one is trying to be too much of a critic, and tapping into nostalgia is acceptable even when it's stupid. It's a fun setup you have. Keep it up guys!
I’ve became a huge fan of Kieran. He’s just a really funny dude and looks like has a lot of awesome ideas for these videos. Way to go man.
The making "Indy a weaker character" when it comes to the grail is something i disagree with.
We have to remember the beginning of Crusade with Young Indy.Even as a kid his ethos of " IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!" is strong and clearly something Henry had drilled into him.
The ending Juxtaposes their roles,with Henry,who had spent his entire life chasing it being the one to give it up,influenced in part by his son and with Indy essentially becoming his father who obsessed with it but not for the selfish reason of the blonde chick but for the noble reason of wanting to see it in a museum as his father did and in the end both deciding that family is whats more important.
There is a great bit of character play in that scene and feels like it went full circle.
The Fuch... Temple of Doom is the best.
Lol. It's better than the crystal skull one. I thought it was gonna be about the Mitchell Hedges skull but nope. :/
Definitely better than crystal skull but I still prefer raiders and crusade over Temple of doom still a great movie though
James is actually wrong about Donovan turning into a skeleton in "Last Crusade" being early CGI...it was 100% practical effects. They built several puppets, each one "older" and more decomposed than the last, and morphed them together.
The gentle muzak in the background is almost my favorite part.
I am the only one in the temple of doom.......
ZwiebelJack9000 Temple of doom is as good and iconic (if not more) as the other 2 they just delusional.
Johnny Cab pic...nice!
No way José. I love that one
Temple of Doom is my absolute favorite. It's so much fun. Better than Raiders imo.
Here just to say you are the man James! Love what ya do. NEVER STOP!
Epic comment my man. :D
Love that thumbnail James! Also, Miiiiiike! I love to see him in these. I’ll See you all in the summer at TooManyGames, and I’ll see James at Timeline Arcade. Living in Pennsylvania is awesome.
Excellent video. Thank you!
Temple of Doom is my favourite it’s awesome
+ 1
*Favorite. Doesn't matter where you're from.
Okay, but why is Temple of Doom automatically out of the running?
It's a prequel. Raiders and Crusade are a matched pair.
They're thematically linked, with the biblical plot device and the Nazi's as antagonists. Temple Of Doom is more of a stand-alone adventure. Understandable, since the series started out as an hommage to adventure serials, but on the long run it's just a lesser accomplished episode within the whole series. Still, the bad/inferior rep it gets is undeserved. It just wasn't as good as Raiders and Crusade.
it's shit
Its the weakest of the 3.
Am I the only one around here who loves "Temple of Doom" the most???
@@GamerGuysReviews See, this guy gets it. lol
@@gerhardschulzy Even though it was the reason why PG13 movies exist today. 😎
@@GamerGuysReviews Hell yeah! My family used to repeat the incantations, at the end, to each other, as if it was some sort of inside joke... Kali Ma.... Kali Ma... Kali Ma Shakti De!!!
you must be mad xd xd lol, me and that guys are experts about greatness so temple of doom objetively cannot compete
It is slightly behind Raiders in my opinion. But, far better than Crusade
The skeleton transformation scene in crusade was not cgi but 100% practical.
The Last Crusade is my favorite of the Indiana Jones series and it’s one of my top 10 favorite movies of all time.
The correct answer is Temple of Doom.
RedVIII WRONG! Clearly Kingdom of the Crystal Scull is the best.
For 2nd worst I agree
For some, yeah it is
Everyone has their own opinion 😎
RedVIII That’s right. 👍🏽
Rental Review is a fantastic series. Can't get enough.
This is probably the best rental review yet! I like hearing Mike's input, especially when it differs from the other guys opinion. Seems slightly less circle jerky...
Everyone says Raiders, but Crusade is easily my favorite by a large margin.
Are you sick or are you dumb?
The last crusade is about family and that is what is so powerful about it.
My thoughts exactly.
Great discussion! I'll say it again. I love these rental reviews! Next to Caldore!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice video, love both Raiders & Crusade personally.