The Mystery of the Millom Lines - Britain’s lost Stonehenge?

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Is Stonehenge a lone oddity? Short answer: NO.
    Although much remains from the Neolithic period, excavations and surveys often reveal extensive damage to surviving sites, and, for the most part, their intended design and experience have been lost to time.
    Key sources:
    Clare, T. et al. (2007) The Prehistoric Monuments of the Lake District
    Dickinson, S., (2021) Between the Mountains and the Sea, a new monument complex on the Cumbrian coast

Komentáře • 190

  • @jbos5107
    @jbos5107 Před 3 měsíci +14

    I enjoyed that very much. I'll be watching more! I just want to add that I recognize that you have a great education, but it takes more than that to make a good video, no matter the topic. I watch a lot of videos on all kinds of subjects, and I do not have a great education. So I just want to tell you that I think you have what it takes to have a great channel. Please keep making videos. I'm just a random old lady in the US who loves history, and it's clear that you do as well.

    • @valetta202
      @valetta202 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ''No one is ever just random' from another old.random student, loved your comment.

    • @jbos5107
      @jbos5107 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@valetta202 If I had these kinds of videos when I was a student, I might have been a better student!

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Very happy you enjoyed it! Old ladies are my target audience ❤️

  • @ChrisN1973
    @ChrisN1973 Před 3 měsíci +18

    Another cracking video, Adam. Looking forward to seeing more, mate!

  • @alisn.7998
    @alisn.7998 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Very well presented about a relatively ignored and fascinating part of Cumbria. What’s interesting about the crop mark circle shown here, near the Giants Grave, is that it’s presumably connected in some way to the other two extinct stone (or possibly wood) circle marks actually within the Giants Grave field, one showing the postholes of the circle very clearly, and the other, larger circle, with a crop mark thicker and not showing the whole circle, being nearer and to the left of the two standing stones, as seen on Google Earth from the 2018 rephotographing of the area.
    On the road to Millom from Silecroft are various stone gateposts, clearly former standing stones, even if no longer always in their original positions, as the stones are very thick, and one or two are not in an ideal gatepost alignment. No farmer, past or present, uses an oversized, or possibly very expensive (in both effort and/or cash) gatepost, where he doesn’t have to.
    The whole Millom area is riddled with evidence, even now, of the distant past, much of it almost unnoticed. The landscape must have been extraordinary in prehistoric times, even allowing for the tree cover no doubt present. Looking forward to the next video.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +1

      No doubt. Those post holes are missing some big objects. The cropmark at Gutterby is overlayed by an probable Iron Age enclosure, so it's possible they were gone by the Roman period!

  • @rachcampb
    @rachcampb Před 3 měsíci +4

    Interesting. I'm originally from there, and although ive known about it most of my life, I've never been up to Swinside. There are a lot of neolithic monuments once you start to look.

  • @ashleysmith3106
    @ashleysmith3106 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Fascinating topic ! I only wish I'd known more of the archaeology of the Lake District when I visited from Australia some thirty years ago, but the W.W.W. was in its infancy, and a lot of the information was not out there. I visited Henges and Monuments in Southern England, Scotland and Ireland, but was unaware that I was so close to these wonderful structures, and now, alas, I am too old and infirm to visit again, so thank you for bringing them to me ! Cheers from rural South Australia.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thanks! Very happy you enjoyed it

    • @sunnydavidson297
      @sunnydavidson297 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Agreed. I was a camp counselor at the YMCA National Outdoors Pursuits Centre in 1980, yest after I'd turned 30. My interest in stones/ spirituality hadn't made itself known to me yet.

  • @mirandamom1346
    @mirandamom1346 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Why has it taken CZcams so long to recommend one of your videos to me? What fun! I’ll be back for more.

  • @alexanderguesthistorical7842
    @alexanderguesthistorical7842 Před 3 měsíci +7

    My favourite stone circle is Torhousekie Stone Circle to the west of Wigtown in Dumfries and Galloway. It's a small, but perfectly formed recumbent stone circle. It also has a nodule of feldspar embedded into the stone facing south east.
    My own view is that there IS an explanation which correlates to all the evidence, but it is a cultural one and as such archaeology will never be able to uncover their true purpose. No matter how many 'sacred alignments' or interred/cremated people they find in it's environs.

  • @SHPR2013
    @SHPR2013 Před měsícem +4

    The local people of Thornborough should be given greater recognition for saving the site from gravel extraction, like a lot of the surrounding land was.
    The gravel extraction blight has destroyed so much in the UK, near me there was a Neolithic village of international archaeological importance that was destroyed along with several causewayed enclosures - which in my area there are way more than in the stonehenge landscape - same as cursus Monuments and the number of small henges, hengiform monuments and a rather puzzling soon to be destroyed approximately 230m henge next to Heathrow airport, we also have lost stone circles at Staines and Kingston (which boasts) a coronation stone for the Anglo Saxon Kings as well as a Silbury hill type mound under the Tower of London and much much more - the idea of London and the surrounding area being devoid of activity until the Romans arrived is far from the truth.
    Great video, very well made as always, all the best.

  • @ruththinkingoutside.707
    @ruththinkingoutside.707 Před 3 měsíci +11

    This is excellent.. I hope you make more! Thank you!

  • @grottybt5006
    @grottybt5006 Před 3 měsíci +18

    Makes you wonder how many in the east were lost to ploughing in the vast flat lands from york to London, since they all seem to be in the west county or in the hills somewhere

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Judging by the many crop marks - a lot! Though, few with inner post / stone settings like those at Millom

    • @dannimac777
      @dannimac777 Před 3 měsíci +2

      much of the east of the country was either marsh or under water or now sea, making identification and location difficult to find. many secrets to be found under the North Sea.

    • @rsguastalla5370
      @rsguastalla5370 Před 3 měsíci

      Lee bien lo que te dire realmente me produce risa que uds piensen barbaridades de los Stonehenge estos monumentos hay por todas partes del
      Mundo en Tatin del valle Tucumán República Argentina hay uno pero también hay en Perú en México en China en Mongolia en miles de lugares y el Ojo del Sahara es igual que esto igual que los mis bites de ls usan de Pascua son todos a igusl que la piedra bolas de Costa Rica y de Sarajevo que son los más grandes del mundo que también hay piedra bola por todo el mundo en Chile hasta en la Antártida Canadá España Brasil Argentina México El Salvador Guatemala por todas partes del mundo hay piedra bola eso fue cuando la luna se acercó a la tierra en su bamboleara la tierra por millones de años acerca la luna que casi chocó con la tierra esto no lo ve nadie no entiendo porque se llevaron piedra por millones de años la luna también succionó la lava de los volcanes por eso la piedra que están en los muros del Perú son negras Partió la Pangea la llevó a la Panchp a tocar contra la placa del pacífico la placa americana bueno creo todos los desiertos del mundo eso hizo la luna no lo entiende no ven por que son tan duro los ingleses científicos dejen de mentir dejen de mentir por favor no se dan cuenta que fue la luna

    • @rsguastalla5370
      @rsguastalla5370 Před 3 měsíci

      Lee bien lo que te dire realmente me produce risa que uds piensen barbaridades de los Stonehenge estos monumentos hay por todas partes del
      Mundo en Tatin del valle Tucumán República Argentina hay uno pero también hay en Perú en México en China en Mongolia en miles de lugares y el Ojo del Sahara es igual que esto igual que los mis bites de ls usan de Pascua son todos a igusl que la piedra bolas de Costa Rica y de Sarajevo que son los más grandes del mundo que también hay piedra bola por todo el mundo en Chile hasta en la Antártida Canadá España Brasil Argentina México El Salvador Guatemala por todas partes del mundo hay piedra bola eso fue cuando la luna se acercó a la tierra en su bamboleara la tierra por millones de años acerca la luna que casi chocó con la tierra esto no lo ve nadie no entiendo porque se llevaron piedra por millones de años la luna también succionó la lava de los volcanes por eso la piedra que están en los muros del Perú son negras Partió la Pangea la llevó a la Panchp a tocar contra la placa del pacífico la placa americana bueno creo todos los desiertos del mundo eso hizo la luna no lo entiende no ven por que son tan duro los ingleses científicos dejen de mentir dejen de mentir por favor no se dan cuenta que fue la lunal

    • @rsguastalla5370
      @rsguastalla5370 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Hay uno en la punta de un precipicio la otra mitad cayó al
      Mar

  • @Daytona2
    @Daytona2 Před měsícem +3

    Insightful, thank you Adam.
    Just so that you know, the algorithm is starting to recommend your videos. It recommended this to me yesterday, as it's seen that you're posting regularly over the past couple of months, and it knows that I knew someone from, and had an interest in the modern day Millom area, some years ago and that I'm interested in (AD) history. So it's marketing you to people with an interest in history and the specific areas - its yet to focus on people interested in UK prehistory. I find it fascinating how it learns ...and can appreciate how frustrating it is. The good news is that the algo does seem to be scaling back from it's production line requirement of one video a week ...which kills creativity.

  • @bethanybrown8890
    @bethanybrown8890 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Very much enjoyed watching this! We live very close to the standing stones in kirksanton and saw with our drone a couple of years ago during the drought the crop marks. But asides from that across the river from the standing stones, on protected land that’s densely overgrown and most of which is a marsh, is a hidden embankment and whether or not it’s connected obviously I don’t know but it has really got me wondering. Also a couple fields away from the stones overlooking blackcombe is a little mound/hill and is known locally as arrow hill, folk-law says that it may be a burial mound. Not fitting to usual types of burials or funerals around stones, could just be a glacial deposit but it’s an interesting concept.

  • @brigidsingleton1596
    @brigidsingleton1596 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I thought I had, but I hadn't subscribed. Sorry. I _have_ _now_ subscribed... (can't have you being "upset", now, can I?!🥺) Thankyou for your walking, observing, noting, filming, mapping, presenting and uploading your knowledge, and sharing this knowledge, these photos etc with us... Its much appreciated - even by a generally 'unknowing' person such as me!!
    🤞🤔🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿❤️🇬🇧🙂🖖

  • @nikkigraham7494
    @nikkigraham7494 Před měsícem +2

    I’ve just moved back to Scotland after spending 8 years living in Brampton and exploring as much of Cumbria as possible. I do miss the ancient vibe of the whole area and I am lucky to have seen it’s magic!

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před měsícem +2

      @@nikkigraham7494 to be fair 80% of Scotland has that vibe!

    • @nikkigraham7494
      @nikkigraham7494 Před měsícem +1

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson Fact! Cumbria is definitely part of that just modern history doesn’t say it like we see it!
      I live outside Dumfries now so still in the line headed up to the 12 Appostles. Where I live there is a mirror image between Criffel and Scarfell. Definitely feel there’s something in that?!

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před měsícem +2

      @@nikkigraham7494 Ah - well, interestingly, the 12 Apostles is a Cumbrian circle. It can be lumped in with Long Meg, Gamelands, Castlerigg, Elva Plain, and Swinside. Big megalithic henge-like enclosures , dating to the mid-to-late Neolithic (3200 -2500bc). You don’t often hear about it (or sadly much from Dumfries).

  • @jenniferharrison4319
    @jenniferharrison4319 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Good to see you have made some more videos. Shap would indeed have been the Stonehenge of the north. Sad to think so much was destroyed, most probably in the last 200 to 300 years ago with revolutions in farming and the later Industrial Revolution with the need for transport routes, Shap avenue having been destroyed to make way for a railway. The stately home of those who destroyed it is now just an empty shell. Perhaps things don’t bode well for those who destroy monuments. Swinside had a narrow escape. When the landowner heard the tenant was about to destroy it he sent word not to. A smaller circle there was removed.
    I believe the Giants Grave was a long barrow.🤔. Also l think we should be careful not to label everything as sacred or ceremonial. Henges and circles probably had many uses and unfortunately we we never know. Summer and winter solstice do appear to have been important.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Thanks! I believe the purported long barrow at the Giants Grave was misreported. Cumbria has kong cairns, not long barrows, and no examples anywhere have flanking standing stones. Instead, it stands equidistant between two likely henge enclosures

    • @jenniferharrison4319
      @jenniferharrison4319 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Yes, stand corrected, l actually meant long cairn. I love tramping around south west lakes looking at prehistoric sites mainly because it is devoid of people 🤣

  • @Tom_Quixote
    @Tom_Quixote Před 27 dny +2

    I thought the thought experiment about what if Stone Henge had been demolished was very interesting. How much else has the world lost, I wonder. We have so little left of what once was, and we try to connect such limited dots.

  • @Russpng
    @Russpng Před měsícem +1

    What a great video Adam - the location maps and site plans you added make all the difference. And I hit the subscribe button as soon as I heard you playing "Withnail and I music" (that was a bonus) .....:)

  • @janbridget4020
    @janbridget4020 Před 3 měsíci +5

    I have tried to put links to two website pages but clearly not allowed to put links. There was a geophys survey conducted of the Millom cropmark a few years ago and the results can be found on our Archaeology Project page. We also have a page looking at Prehistoric Millom which includes the six Bronze Age socketed axe heads found here last year. If you google Millom and District Local History Society. Again, many thanks for your videos, Adam.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Thanks! I actually read your survey results a few weeks ago! Fascinating stuff as always!

    • @janbridget4020
      @janbridget4020 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson Exciting times here in Millom at the moment - about to start our community dig. We had a specialist drone survey conducted and the findings were very exciting. I suspect all that we are finding around here will be replicated in some way around the other cropmarks, especially Gutterby.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@janbridget4020 amazing, and much needed work you’re doing! Gutterby is the most important for dating I imagine. If that other enclosure is Iron Age (it clearly is), and it overlies the possible henge - that’d be fantastic. There used to also be a concentric stone circle there - which would be the only one on the coast. Extremely exciting place

    • @janbridget4020
      @janbridget4020 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson Totally agree - I mean Gutterby.

    • @carolcamp4828
      @carolcamp4828 Před měsícem +1

      To post a link u have to go back to the vid u want to send. Click on send. The last option is save or copy link. Click on that. Then go back to the vid u want to post it on. Go into comments. That link will pop up on your phone. Just click on it & it will appear in the comment box.

  • @johnpenny41
    @johnpenny41 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Your video was very interesting. I'm from Ulverston originally. I have long thought that academic studies of the landscape history & archaeology of High & Low Furness have neglected for far too long. I hope your channel goes some way to remedying this omission.

  • @chriscorbin2059
    @chriscorbin2059 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I'm also curious about the standing stones in Cornwall.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci

      I’m not driving that far for a CZcams video

    • @carolcamp4828
      @carolcamp4828 Před měsícem

      Cornwall is a magical place. Full of neolithic monuments. Everything on ley lines & interconnected. I lived in west Penwith many decades ago & explored a lot of then fairly unknown locations.

  • @JesseP.Watson
    @JesseP.Watson Před 27 dny +1

    Very much appreciated that wee thought experiment. Interesting indeed, thank you, subscribed - from a fellow currently in Pembrokeshire, dolmen country... which I recently noted is centrally located between the West coast of Ireland and the Eastern coast of England, were one to consider them part of one and the same territory - your mention of the Lake's centrality brought that to mind being that this area appears to have been such a hub of activity in the late neolithic (though whether that is due to unusual preservation or increased activity is another question, as you point out).
    All the best,
    A fellow megalithomaniac.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 27 dny

      @@JesseP.Watson Thanks!
      My family is from Pembrokeshire! St Davids - lovely part of the world.

  • @Amor_et_Libertas
    @Amor_et_Libertas Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for your history videos. Very entertaining and educating. 🎉

  • @philbenaiges4205
    @philbenaiges4205 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Hi Adam, have just come across this video, absolutely loved it and have now bought your book about prehistoric Yorkshire. I was very intrigued about 'undetected' neolithic monuments and I wondered if you have any information on what is marked as a settlement near Brother's Water (grid 398117) The surrounding area is strewn with what appears to be glacial erratics, but one in particular seems to have been purposely erected as a standing stone, apologies I did not take a photo, but to me it is different to the rest of the surrounding stones. Thank you again.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci

      Ahh - very interesting - the Dovedale Settlement. I actually mention that site in my Cumbria book. There’s a big cairn next to it, and it’s very odd. At the very least, it was last used as a settlement, but I suspect earlier use. There’s a ton of rock art in that little area, so Early to Mid Neolithic activity can’t be ruled out! Only survey and excavation will tell!

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci

      If you’re interested, the upcoming 2nd edition of my Cumbria book delves more deeply, and has some drone photos of the site. Otherwise, check my Twitter!

    • @philbenaiges4205
      @philbenaiges4205 Před 3 měsíci

      I am very much interested, when will the new edition be available?

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@philbenaiges4205 sometime around October

  • @frankjoseph4273
    @frankjoseph4273 Před 3 měsíci +4

    So the pre Celtic henge builders were descendents of Anatolian farmers ?

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +7

      Pre Celtic, and pre-Beaker. These people were the first farmers in Britain. Long, long before the Celts

  • @paulbennett772
    @paulbennett772 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Greetings from Darlington. Very interesting & thought provoking. Subscribed.

  • @sunnydavidson297
    @sunnydavidson297 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Crop circles are often found in these area-many near Stonehenge. Have had sentient experiences walking in a crop circle in a wheat field (?).

  • @paulgammidge-jefferson9536
    @paulgammidge-jefferson9536 Před 3 měsíci +2

    A wonderful video. I have been to Millom doze s of times. I have visited the Giant's Graves but I had no idea about the surrounding archaeology. A gem of a documentary. Your suggestion makes perfect sence.

  • @Leningrad_Underground
    @Leningrad_Underground Před 3 měsíci +1

    Thank you. I really enjoyed learning new things. hope it goes well .

  • @HassanRadwan133
    @HassanRadwan133 Před měsícem +1

    I'm enjoying your videos. My work used to take me through Wiltshire and loved to visit Avebury stone circle, the West Kennet Long Barrow and Silbury Hill. I became fascinated by it all and love hearing more about our prehistory. btw have you looked into Ley Lines?

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks! Really appreciate it.
      Google Ley Lines, you'll quickly see they're bunk. There's a great Tom Scott video about it - link: czcams.com/video/LGwgT5jho6I/video.html

    • @HassanRadwan133
      @HassanRadwan133 Před měsícem +1

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson Ah ok thanks ❤️

  • @janbridget4020
    @janbridget4020 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Brilliant, Adam, thank you!

  • @davidberlanny3308
    @davidberlanny3308 Před 19 dny

    Hi Dave, fascinating mix of old and new technologies. Really well narrated and enjoyable to watch.
    Brick fields often appear on old OS maps so at one time maybe this was a common sight in the UK too.
    All the best!!

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 19 dny +2

      Thanks! But my name's Adam, not Dave!

    • @davidberlanny3308
      @davidberlanny3308 Před 19 dny

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson Sorry Adam, I was writing a comment on brick making in India, Dave Knowles, and It must have got mixed up.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 19 dny +1

      @@davidberlanny3308 No worries. Maybe leave a nice comment on my video too next time!

  • @nodarkthings
    @nodarkthings Před 3 měsíci +2

    I think there is a similar hidden or lost sacred landscape around Rudston. The lonely monolith there (the tallest in Britain) seems to have been part of a much larger complex. We know that a henge and several cursuses were destroyed but i suspect there's so much more we've lost, especially near the actual monolith. Some have called the nearby Willy Howe a proto-Silbury Hill

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +1

      You’re right! My book Yorkshire’s Prehistoric Monuments dips into that.

  • @nellennatea
    @nellennatea Před měsícem +1

    Very interesting. Thank you.

  • @gerardgearon4206
    @gerardgearon4206 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent Excellent Excellent
    Big up from Wiltshire.
    😀😀😀😀😀😀

  • @kevinwilliams1602
    @kevinwilliams1602 Před měsícem +1

    I've been to two so far, Birkrigg and the one on Cold fell (rebuilt by a local Farmer), I hope, once my partner is able to drive again, to visit Swinside and Castlerigg

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před měsícem

      If you do any, make it Swinside, and pray there aren't any cows in the field! Castlerigg is fantastic in Jan / Feb

  • @parrotraiser6541
    @parrotraiser6541 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Has anyone speculated on the possibility that they might have been entertainment and/or sporting facilities? A sort of prehistoric sports stadium?

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +2

      It’s a great idea. You should do the research yourself and come to a conclusion

  • @thatsilvesterchap
    @thatsilvesterchap Před měsícem +2

    Really appreciate your thoughts on this. So important to avoid survivorship bias when thinking of these things. Puts me in mind of a recent study conducted into the 'original Stonehenge' which appears to have been first erected in Wales, then moved to the Salisbury site. Clearly, their world was more interconnected than isolated ruins suggest. Subscribed.

  • @stellamariesmithson1431
    @stellamariesmithson1431 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you very interesting
    Just subbed.

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 Před 2 měsíci +1

    why do you reckon they started building circular enclosures? as a opposed to the previous long barrows and non circular mounds

  • @fredviner2774
    @fredviner2774 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Excellent subscribed 😊

  • @markbishop5044
    @markbishop5044 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Very good!

  • @EtchedInTimeLLC
    @EtchedInTimeLLC Před 3 měsíci +1

    So interesting!

  • @TheDove25
    @TheDove25 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This may allude to the setting in of the Iron Age when he sun, the Tropic and the northern part of the ecliptic, with the tropical sign ascended up from the earth towards the pole; which is a well known consequence of the increase angle of the poles tilt till they arrive at 90 degrees.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci

      Probably Neolithic - 2500 years before the Iron Age

    • @TheDove25
      @TheDove25 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson The ancients left an astrological map that speaks through the ages. So it is important, a tracking of the distance between the Poles, Ecliptic and Celestial, by measuring the expanse of the Obliquity of the Ecliptic (Arc) which is equal to the spread between the Poles.

    • @TheDove25
      @TheDove25 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The Great Cycle of Axis Rotation.

    • @TheDove25
      @TheDove25 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The changing obliquity of the Ecliptic, that is to say the tilt of the earths axis to the plane of the Ecliptic.

    • @TheDove25
      @TheDove25 Před 2 měsíci +1

      The Great Cycle of Axis Rotation completes itself in the course of a cycle thar spans two million one hundred and sixty thousand years ( 2,160,000 years). This is the span of time that it takes the celestial projection of the earths axis to rotate vertically from East to North, from North to West, from West to the East - a cycle of 360 degrees at the rate of one degree every 6,000 years. I believe.

  • @peterburgess5974
    @peterburgess5974 Před 3 měsíci

    @AdamMorganIbbotson It's definitely a good thing to do. Keep up the good work. The aerial imagery is particularly fascinating. I have been enthralled by the ancient history of Cumbria since I was a kid. Anyway, I was just checking in. P.S. I speak to your father when he comes into Musgraves in Windermere. He's a regular there! I did ask him if you could do a talk to Staveley and Ings History society - perhaps you could? Ad altiora!

  • @richardclegg7846
    @richardclegg7846 Před 2 měsíci

    Hi Adam. Following Howard Crowhurst's video on the vast geometric alignments of sites throughout Brittany and Britain, may I ask if you have looked at Rudston? Google Earth images clearly indicate lost circles and other traces in the flood plain North East of the monument. All in the approximate area of Howard's missing 3,4 5 alignments , involving SIlbury Hill, Rudston, and Castlerigg. I have visited for Howard recently but the crops are too high. I find it fascinating, especially in the context of the more intimate landscape of the area, it's monuments and the Gypsy Race river.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Ah, funnily enough, I’ve written a whole book about Yorkshire’s prehistoric monuments - including Rudston.
      I obviously can’t fit all my ideas in a CZcams comment. But basically, the Gypsy Race is a winter born stream - meaning it only flows during winter. The Monolith and it’s cursus monuments all sit at the only north / south aligned but of the Gypsy Race. They may be connected to the Winter Solstice.

    • @richardclegg7846
      @richardclegg7846 Před 2 měsíci

      @AdamMorganIbbotson Thank you. Crowhurst' puts the 3-4-5 datum point from Silbury about 300m NE of the monument, although the monument does align with its immediate neighbours in Yorkshire. I reckon a large cairn , very near the Race was removed for building and field clearance or even for the gully sides of the stream

    • @richardclegg7846
      @richardclegg7846 Před 2 měsíci

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson What's the book called

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@richardclegg7846 Yorkshire's Prehistoric Monuments - published by the History Press last October. I highly recommend (obviously)

  • @bryan5549
    @bryan5549 Před 3 měsíci +1

    The end of Chapter 3 is a potent statement. Indeed, what if?

  • @eldraque4556
    @eldraque4556 Před 3 měsíci +2

    nice ons fella

  • @JimBagby74
    @JimBagby74 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What’s that 70s airport music?

  • @user-kv1nj2kz6r
    @user-kv1nj2kz6r Před 3 měsíci

    The 'circle' shown here is not a perfect circle but there is a perfect circle (or half of it) to the north of the Giant's stones and a smaller perfect circle to the south. The 'circle' shown here has 'dots' around the inner self, but again the 'circle' is not uniform so it doesn't seem in keeping with the linear of 'stone circles'.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci

      Nope, wrong. Few to no stone circles are perfect. Almost all of them are wonky.

    • @user-kv1nj2kz6r
      @user-kv1nj2kz6r Před 3 měsíci

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson Agree with wonky but the circle in question is more like a runny egg yolk. When viewing many other circles from above most are generic circles.

  • @jamiebooth135
    @jamiebooth135 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Love it. Millom

  • @brendancoburn427
    @brendancoburn427 Před 3 měsíci +1

    "Did these different monuments co-exist and interact with each other?" Yes. They had a practical use. They were 'computers' linked by energy lines. They created and emitted/received frequencies. Dowsing is a cheaper way to initially confirm this.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +2

      Waggling a stick around a field says more about your excess free time than any archaeology. May I suggest a metal detector.

  • @Eris123451
    @Eris123451 Před měsícem

    Let's be completely honest ?
    Despite all the archaeology and all the erudite speculation, we absolutely haven't got the faintest idea what was really going on and we probably never will have.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před měsícem +2

      Abosultely. Though, we can rule out some of the more out there ideas..

    • @Eris123451
      @Eris123451 Před měsícem

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson
      Which still leaves us non the wiser.

  • @vintagelady1
    @vintagelady1 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Interesting but I'm not sure what your point is here. Of course it would be interesting if everything from forever could be preserved but how could that possibly work over thousands of years? Are you suggesting a massive archeological project? You sask, "How would we see Neolithic peoples differently?" Well, how would we? They are clearly skilled in ways we still can't imagine, with the ability to move massive stones for miles & hoist them without the use of modern machinery---we have lost those skills. I often wonder at the passion of archeologists for proclaiming almost everything to be connected to some sort of ritual or mystical rite---my word, if those neolithic people were actually performing the number of rituals imputed to them, when did they have time to hunt, fish, learn the new skills of agriculture, work their stones, discover metalworking, figure out that melting stones yielded copper or tin. It's not like they could run to the corner store for sandwich---their lives must have been at best pleasantly busy but sometimes a frantic battle to exist, & never mind tribal rivalries. So I do think further investigation wouldcertainly yield new ideas---I'd suspect that the henges had multiple purposes, as areas for celebration & ritual, as landmarks for travelers (not so much w/the road signs when you don't have writing!), looks like a nice place for a market on Wednesdays ("Set your stall up just left of the big stone over there, Joe.") & a way of claiming an area for a particular group, which was still a bit of a new idea then. I do wish you'd provided more information about the similarities & differences among the various sites, and YOUR insights as a knowledgeable person in this field, as opposed to my completely untutored musings. Antway, I'll be back to see if I can become a bit less untutored, & thanks for sharing.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +1

      As the video says, it’s a thought experiment. Like you say, the focus on sites like Stonehenge have skewed our opinions and understandings of prehistoric building. If the focus was on other sites, now lost, how would our perceptions change? Nothing more than a musing on survivorship bias - something the layperson may not know of

    • @vintagelady1
      @vintagelady1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson I guess I thought everyone knew that Stonehenge was one of many monuments. I see now & look forward to more from your channel.

    • @TheDove25
      @TheDove25 Před 20 dny

      Don’t become less, very well put on how they found time to leave such monuments as stories / science / astrology to future generations.

  • @tetrahead72
    @tetrahead72 Před měsícem

    9 stones near the coast A3 flowing water maternity

  • @TheDove25
    @TheDove25 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Malik H Jabbar presentations on CZcams, Adam and Eve , start viewing at 37 mins, he has an interesting take which would / could explain these circles with the line drawn through them.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Lay lines etc are quite an old idea - and also nonsensical in my opinion. There are so many prehistoric sites across the UK and Europe, you could place a line anywhere and have it align.

    • @TheDove25
      @TheDove25 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson I don’t believe this is a lay line, though I don’t really know a lot about lay lines, I believe this may represent the pole / poles at an angle which may only occur at certain ages.

  • @3D_Printing
    @3D_Printing Před 2 měsíci +1

    Paint it, just stop oil no action taken

  • @glendawithers3688
    @glendawithers3688 Před 2 měsíci

    I would recommend Mike Parker Pearsons book 'Stonehenge' Interesting thoughts but not true. Sorry!

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci

      What’s not true? Mike Parker Pearson? I may agree there 👍🏻

  • @lukepollard2202
    @lukepollard2202 Před měsícem

    Dumb archeology we build every building with the door facing north east as this us against the provaling wind ❤

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před měsícem

      @@lukepollard2202 What on earth has this got to do with anything? None of these entrances face north east… or have doors

  • @Loki1815
    @Loki1815 Před 3 měsíci

    Why do you refer to everything in Kilometres and metres?
    How far do I have to travel between silecroft, utterly and The Giants Grave? Do I have enough petrol? Do I have the time, considering my car's clock is in MPH and I know my car's MPG, as it says so in my car's handbook! The road signs are in miles as well!

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Welcome to the 21st century!

    • @macraghnaill3553
      @macraghnaill3553 Před 2 měsíci

      Your car speedometer has Kilometers and miles on it, there is only 1 petrol station in the area so make sure you have plenty of fuel to cover 10 miles or so!

  • @majordendrocopos
    @majordendrocopos Před 2 měsíci

    0.26 “It’s towering stones have etched themselves into the Western zeitgeist”. Really? I thought that zeitgeists couldn’t be etched, only engraved or overpainted. In other words, what high falutin’ nonsense…..

  • @user-xw7ie6jv2x
    @user-xw7ie6jv2x Před 2 měsíci

    Why add artificial dust and debris to some of the photographs? What purpose does this serve? For me it really spoiled what could have otherwise been a really interesting programme.

  • @hawklord100
    @hawklord100 Před 3 měsíci

    Lots of ancient references to Bridget worship around the mouth of the river Esk Estuary while opposite is the Isle of man, a name from those ancient times when the land was seen to be shaped in male and female outlines and worshipped as such, river estuary's seen as Vaginas and when you see it in this light you can put into place the ancients and what theywere doing at certain sites.

  • @johnmceleny6374
    @johnmceleny6374 Před 3 měsíci +1

    💒🙏🇺🇸 🇬🇧🙏💒 👍👍

  • @judewarner1536
    @judewarner1536 Před měsícem

    It's clearly NOT a lost stonehenge. It's just an ordinary henge that has been ploughed over like thousands of other neolithic sites in agricultural fields.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před měsícem

      @@judewarner1536 Yeah, no sh*t. But the video wouldn’t have 22k views without that thumbnail. And 22k people wouldn’t learn about the Millom Lines.

  • @batcollins3714
    @batcollins3714 Před 2 měsíci

    How can you compare Stonhenge to the beautifully polished monuments of the same age in Egypt. Compared to them it just looks like a jumble of rough stones. Compare them to the 11,000 year old Gobekli Tepi. There is no comparison.

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 2 měsíci

      Of course you can compare them. They may not be as 'impressive', but they're prehistoric megalithic monuments; a style of architecture practically unique to prehistory.
      AND, in the drizzly pastel uplands of Britain, they have a totally different aesthetic experience to the arid examples you describe. Imagine living in a cold northern semi-swampland, cut off from the rest of Europe by sea. They're strikingly beautiful.

  • @geoff2504
    @geoff2504 Před 3 měsíci

    I tried to watch your video but sadly the pointless music destroyed my concentration!

  • @bobjackson4720
    @bobjackson4720 Před 2 měsíci

    Not bad but rather too many repeats.

  • @Gooders478
    @Gooders478 Před 19 dny

    Do you actually need to know much about archaeology to enjoy sone circles or can you just rock up and get pissed?

    • @AdamMorganIbbotson
      @AdamMorganIbbotson  Před 19 dny +1

      @@Gooders478 you can rock up and get pissed anywhere you like! 👍🏻

    • @Gooders478
      @Gooders478 Před 18 dny +1

      @@AdamMorganIbbotson Hooray! chin chin!