NEW DEFENDER on 37's - Behind The Rocks, Moab
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- Our newest Defender build, Big Barry, on 37's with a 5" lift at the Great American Rover Rally in Moab.
Huge shout out to Luke Howard and Gustav Dow from the Northern California Land Rover Club / Rovicon for helping with the filming! My usual film man was unavailable for this trip.
BIG BARRY =
2022 Land Rover Defender SE X-Dynamic P400 Trophy Edition - one of 220 built
37x12.5r18 Nitto Trail Grapplers - we ran at 10 psi
18' Redbourne Wheels
5" J Auston Fab subframe lift
ARB TREDS with Lucky 8 Off Road rack mounts
ARB Jack
Warn 10s Platinum winch
Lucky 8 Off Road Sliders
Lucky 8 Off Road rear caliper conversion to accommodate running 18" wheels
Rotopax
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woah! you put 37's on it! very nice. Actually good to see the new defender start to build a reputation as a real off-roader, which it most ceratinly is!
Barry is legit!!! Crew I ran with were very complimentary! Such a fun couple of days in Moab!!!
A reputation? Hahaha
The 37's totally transform the look. Suddenly I really think it looks good!
Ran this trail a few years ago with my stock Discovery5. Was fun seeing how good it was off-road even on skinny tires.
Yes! That is how you build a Defender 👍
This build is sick!!!! New Defender is so growing on me.
Looked like a ton of fun
Love from Scotland 🏴
I asked about this in a previous post. Very nice. My dream build right there.
Amigo que buen trabajo, esta hermoso, Land Rover defender, love forever.
The new Defender is an off road beast. Having said that, the old one can still handle a lot.
This is work of art
What actually defender should looks like
Great stuff Steve.
Big Barry looks epic.
The other vehicles and the older Discos look good to. 👍👍
Thank you… awesome crew for sure. So fun!
It’s good to see the car reaching its potential.
Great to see. I’m sure this is what the LR engineers had in their hearts but the regs around CO2 emissions, crash protection for others, wheels NOT protruding outside the arches etc mean they cannot sell this set-up and could never just do a straight replacement for the original. You should go with #New Defender #Free the Beast!
Right... That's exactly how I feel when I think about these Wranglers and gladiators... Yeah that's nice and all that you made The regulators happy.. about 2 hours after somebody buys that thing it's going straight to the chop Shop and getting all kinds of stuff done to it that's going to cut the mpg in half.. you might as well sell them that way!!!
What I think is going to happen... I bet Jeep gets into the side by side market... Mahindra's going there .... Maybe they can skip some of the regulations if they get into the side by side market... They're going to have to make a better pickup truck to tow that stuff though... Got to beef up the Gladiator a little bit.... Make it more like the power wagon.
Amazing build, Steve!
Thank you! Barry is a stud Offroad… We’ve found the perfect build👍
That is bad ass!! Great stance too 👍
I should also add that you guys are nuts, knowing you will indeed take that as the compliment I intend it to be!
Such a tough build, we love it!
We do too!!!
🤠yii xa excellent 🤠
Love the way it looks. Great job with the combination.
Thank you!!! We’re stoked how well it wheels!!!
We NEED more videos!!! Especially the monster of a jeep y'all have!
We agree! Almost done restoring our ‘76 CJ7… will free up time to edit many trail videos.👊
This is so cool! Can't wair for more footage! Stay safe. 🙏🤲🙂🏆👏👏👏
I'm actually camping at Behind the Rocks as I'm watching this. Cool place.
Nice video!
So cool! We always camp back there… tons to wheel day and night!
@@cotrails8356
Haven't had the balls to wheel the rocks at night yet, but I might have to give it a shot.
@@GATORADDAM it’s really fun. Need rock lights though…
proper looking with those nee wheels, great video!
This is terrain befitting of a Jeep Wrangler
Yes, we run the Defenders and our Jeeps in Moab
The new Defender brought a gun to a gunfight.
Bloody good video that guys great to see a defender with that set up 🇬🇧🏴💯
We’ve got some more videos coming. Building a V8 on 37’s in the spring👍👍👍
@CO TRAILS
Look forward to that and good luck with it and its good to know these mods can be done to the new defender with so much tech on it 👍🇬🇧
Ive had 12 jeeps and my last one is not stock but i really like these defenders. I have considered getting one , maybe with the v8. My current jeep is a 2 door with one tons and even an ls motor in it. It pretty much has everything.I must say for intermediate trails these defenders will do the job
Yes. Up to a level 7 built this way they perform great. Heavy articulation where you’re really using your tons on the Jeep, this will struggle. Where it shines is 90+ mph pulling a trailer with 7 in the vehicle while cooling your Gatorade in the center console!
Very nice man! Great video and awesome to this great build! 💪🏻
This is very very very impressive
At 5:25, love that red defender build, it has taken too many inspirations from jeep rubicons
This is what unlimited funds/or debt looks like 😃 love it
I think this is the only recorded history of the 2021 GARR. I have seen no other videos.
More to come!
Nice work lads, I’ve been subscribed since your first vid. I reckon you should do a build out video, I’m sure it/they would get a lot of views 👍
The great American: Ok, that is a trial to do in a Bronco or Wrangler then 🤣
‘Bout time Steve! Been waiting for this since Big Bertha. Lol now wheel the s outta this cause I’m curious to see with that kinda backspacing and heavy wheels and tires how the linkages will handle it under repeated stress. Nice articulation with rear sway bar disconnected. I assume that is manually disconnected? After you wheel it a bit more I’d love to see a comparo vid between the two- cause obviously while Big Barry is more and can better handle bigger features as a result, question I think for those modifying em will be whether going that big is gonna require a lot of other changes to the suspension to prevent breaking and maybe if Bertha might actually be the better route for most folks that won’t face features requiring something as big as Barry. Cost too will be good for folks to know. I love the overhangs on the Defender- with those 37s they’re basically non-existent. Lol. Hope to start seeing more mod’d Defenders out on the trails out East here. This made me miss my LR4 Roger.
we need to see that new blacked out beast defender !!!
Agreed. Back in town now. Will jump on some editing
@@cotrails8356 amazing! I look forward to it, thank you!!
Great video. I own own of the new defenders. Be good to see a video on the lift and other modifications to get 37’s in those wheel wells.
We plan to put something together in November
@@cotrails8356 1 year, where are you?
@@Maxime-ho9iv had spine surgery. Have some content to edit once things settle down at work and getting two Heeps ready for EJS
@@cotrails8356 Ouch. I Hope you’re fine.
@@Maxime-ho9iv much better now, thanks!
Sounds like Loren Healy behind the camera
I wish I could drive like Loren Healy!
Love the Barry build but would've love to see it perform in a swamp, rivers like Camel Trophy days
Maybe someday. No swamps here in the Rocky Mountains…
In parallel universe where defender actually as reliable as lc 🙂🙂
The old Defender still looks much more gorgeous and ruggedness
Yes, old gen Defenders are very cool and we're big fans. They are not as refined pulling 8200 pounds, going 80 mph, carrying 7 passengers. We ran with these classics at the Great American Rover Rally and they were all pleasantly surprised how the New Defender was right there on the obstacles and in some cases exceeding what their predecessors were able to do...
@@cotrails8356 There will be no doubt about that 😅
I’m loving the new one but the beauty of the old one is when you bend it, you fix it with a mallet and a blow torch.
Would love a detailed walkthrough on this yellow beast :)
We’ll look at doing a walk around on KONG this Spring/ Summer👍
@@cotrails8356 I’ll subscribe then :)
Hopefully we see more Defender content ^^
@@cotrails8356Where did you guys go? Hope you’re fine.
Man. #1 independent suspension in the world right here (with your Land Rover) ! I think if I had an unlimited amount of money I wouldn't buy a Wrangler still... Just like I don't have a Wrangler right now... I'd buy a defender like this.
Seriously.... is there anything with four-wheel independent suspension suspension that can beat this thing on RTI or CTI? I doubt it.
Jeep needs to step it up on high flex 4 wheel independent suspension. I'm about 6.5 inches front travel 7.5 rear according to Jeep... Maybe more with the Teraflex shock extensions and lift but not much.
That was good in 2014... but right now it doesn't even beat the travel of a Wrangler SPORT according to the specs.
Don't get me wrong , it (the Cherokee Trailhawk) will climb a damn tree and will follow some of the best off-roaders ever made... But it picks a wheel up a lot. It's balanced and composed.... but it's going to pick a wheel up every time you take it off road. CTI is like 280 , RTI is like 360.
Its very nice can you try the defender on the snow with 37 inch tiers
I run it up the pass every week to Winter Park to ski (we have two on ski team). Land Rovers and specifically the Defender are fantastic in the snow. KM3’s are terrible in snow, Open Country MT’s and Nitto Trail Grapplers are pretty good, Duratracs and KO2’s are great. Tire choice impacts the vehicle’s performance significantly. The factory tires are horrible.
@@cotrails8356 Are these tiers are good only for snow or can i use in mountains and desert
@@mohamadkurdi1820 Nitto Trail Grapplers are exceptional on rocks, dirt, mud. They are good on sand and snow
@@cotrails8356 tank you so much
I really wish the new design stayed true to the classic like how MB does with their G-wagens.
Would be great to see more content! 👏👏👏🏆🙂
I have some shoots still to edit. Had spine issues and surgery. Will work to get these done…
@@cotrails8356 Get well soon! I'm going for physio myself! Take good care of yourself. 🤗
@@karimalameddine5092 you too!!!
@@cotrails8356 what’s the overall height of the 37 defender? 7”1’? Or higher?
@@Hellosirrrr to top of rack and accessories 7’8”
Great looking vehicle . But I suspect there is a lot of customization and fabrication that goes into making that new defender trail worthy .
It is trail worthy in stock form. I would swap the tires for much better choice.
37’s require a 5” subframe lift and some trimming. We wheel all the same obstacles that Classic Defender 90’s do on the trails equally as well (in some cases better).
#defendergoals
I am wondering what was used to attach your traxs, and other supplies to the OEM roof rack?
All available from Lucky8 Off Rood 👍
Incredible!! Some awesome Landy’s there!!
How come no sump guard and snorkel on the orange defender tho?
Some footage of getting back up the hills would be more impressive
We don’t have any water deep enough for a need for snorkel here in the Colorado Rockies or Moab. More videos coming when I can get Fred up to edit👍
What kind of disks?
what's the departure?
The dimension of rubber?
37x12.5r18 Toyo Open Country MT’s on 18” Redbourne wheels. Not sure about actual departure angle but it’s far beyond the best we’ve ever run including Jeep CJ, TJ, JK, JL, New Bronco, and 4Runner.
Old Discos seem the most capable here
nice built, nice video but you haven't an uphill try...
Stay tuned. All good… Hells Gate in edit
Cool! Was that trans fluid leaking out of the cooler?
So have the rear gears been lowered , that is a massive size difference from stock.
Not regeared . It’s great with the stock gears. Would be even better reheated but we like the added insurance with a little less torque on the stick components
Wow, do you guys need wheel spacers to accommodate all the extra width on those tires? Also, r u guys using the electronic suspension controller from new defender mods? Or just the subframe lift?
Yes we are running 1.25” wheel spacers from Lucky 8 Off Road. We are installing the electronic controller next week. This is on a 5” subframe lift and rear swaybar disconnected
@@cotrails8356 super excited to see how much clearance that electronic controller for the suspension can add at max clearance. With the double bag set up I bet there’s a lot of untapped clearance!!
@@bryantwalker5761 I agree. I’m more excited to drop it and add droop and flex. The 5” lift clears most everything we’ve run so far
Maybe a nice overlander.
Pulls 8200 lbs, seats 7, and rolled the same trails as the classics in Moab. Very capable!!! We wheel our 5 Jeeps and 4Runner as well all summer long
Seems like it rides pretty terrible after the lift. Still using air suspension? They dont seem to do well in the higher positions or aftermarket pushing them up further.
This was a couple builds ago. We’ve made several changes since then and working on even more
@@cotrails8356 Hope you get some more videos out! Great stuff
37s?! that's pretty awesome.
what'd the on-road driving experience like?
On road is transparent to original setup… it’s fantastic to say the least. My 392 is on a 5 inch lift with 39’s and seriously compromised onroad characteristics to focus more on Offroad
@@cotrails8356 thanks for the reply -- i'm assuming this is a subframe lift like mentioned in your other videos, so cool to know it makes good on its promise of keeping on-road ride decent.
i'm so torn on whether or not i will/can get a defender (with the mods), but i seriously want one because of your videos.
What did you do with the air suspension???
It’s in normal ride height unless we’re clearing an obstacle. Then we run in Offroad height
What’s the overall height? 7? 7’1’’ ?
How does it feel having those 37’ on a defender is it smooth?
Plus sizing tires always alters some driving characteristics. Still drives 80-90 great and substantially better off road. CG has been raised with the lift and the tires
Any advice on what it would be like on driving on those 37's on the freeway with a large trailer? Thanks.
Pulls as stock. We pull 7800 lb surf boat up 70 through the Eisenhower Tunnel 80+ mph passing diesel pickups along the way. Only downside is fuel economy…
@@cotrails8356 some machine the new Defender then. Thank you.
Question, can it match a Bronco Sasquash when added the 35” of 37” on the defender? As a overlander, and hard trails, and daily driver
You will have more articulation for level 8-10 trail in the Wrangler. The Defender, 4Runner, Bronco very similar off road up to a level 7 trail. Defender shines in comfort, up to 518 HP available, seating for 7, and can tow 8200 lbs (more than double the Bronco or the Jeep).
What is the ground clearance after the lift?
Defender Suspension: Thank God our owner got an extended warranty..
Also Defender Suspension: 37's..? This is interesting...
We have to push the limits and capabilities. We have maxed this platform out at this point…
How do you guys prevent the wheels from clipping with the fender liners? Amazing work!
We removed the liners completely and cut back some of the unibody pinch weld
What kind of lift does it have on and in the title of the video it says you have 37 right I am new😅😅
5” J Auston Fabrication subframe lift an a lot of trimming and cutting
What's about transmission upgrade? Do you think it's capable (in long term) to work with so large tiers?
I don’t foresee any transmission issues. It drives and shifts great. Unknowns are axle shafts and control arm bushing up front… time will tell. LR certainly did not plan or want this much improvement…
Do you ever use those trax things on the roof?
We use them with the Rovers and the Defenders. Never used them with the Jeeps before
@@cotrails8356 I never been in a situation that they would help me. I was just curious. Thank you
@@johnkemple we find we need them occasionally with independent suspension. Haven’t needed with solid axles. Usually muddy or snowy conditions when digging in and tippy
Hi just curious, may I have chance to know how do you install your 37” tire into your defender? Does it have lift-up package for defender? Are you still keeping the air suspension with your 37” tire?
Sorry I am a new 2022 defender owner, and I have no idea how to improve it. Please pass me some experience if you are free. Any help will be appreciated
Thank you and many thanks to your excellent video
5” J Auston Fab subframe lift. Trim front fender open rings. Cut unibody pinch welds at rear of front fenders.
1 1/4” wheel spacers. If you can find 37x12.5 instead you won’t need to trim as much. Still on factory air ride. Remove rear swaybar for more articulation. We’re building a V8 right now on 37’s
@@cotrails8356 woow V8 with 37”! Is it 90 ? Or still 110? Really look forward to your new video! Thank you and really appreciated your information
@@sc332 110. The 90 is too tippy for what we run… need the wheelbase
@@cotrails8356 understood! Thank you
I would do this.37s How is it on an all day highway ride?
Drives very well. More body roll and mud terrains are of course noisier
What did you do with your first 35 inch white defender? is it always the same one that becomes beautifully two-tone?
We still have Big Bertha. We’re working on some marketing and then we’ll offer her for sale before the end of the year.
@@cotrails8356 With this new 37 "setup. It would be good time to climb the big vertical boulder where the white defender left off. Preferably without the bad guys from TFL around. Then you'd have to pick the best possible line instead than the one you took before. It’s sure that you’ll come. Try to replicate the line you took with the wrangler ☝
@@x5or good call! We’ll try to get up there. Barry will walk right up it with current build, Nittos, plus we’ve removed the rear swaybar so a lot more articulation than Bertha. We took the right line that day that day. We run that trail 3-4 times every summer. When it’s really wet and muddy and you have brand new tires that have never heat cycled, it’s a double whammy.
This summer, we watched the following fail on that left side line:
Stock Hummer
1 buggy that snapped a drive shaft
Late 90’s 4Runner
Three - XJ’s on 33’s and 35’s
CJ7 on 33’s
JKUR on 35’s
Stock JLUR
We watched these succeed:
S10 blazer on 35’s
TJ on 37’s
Sweet stretched LS swap TJ on 40’s
1 rock buggy
My 392
Stock Bronco on 35’s will not make it over the first step without a small lift
Hopefully we can get up there before the snow really starts setting in 👍
@@cotrails8356 I will be very delighted to see this two-tone beast demolish this obstacle. She will certainly be relieved by this disconnected swaybar. This would then be a unique feat of its kind with respect to all vehicles with independent suspensions. I would even say against those with solid axles.
I can't wait to see your next videos.
is it any possibility to make mechanical difflocks :) front and rear :)) with simple "button" without all this electronical stuff?
We aren’t aware of an option at this time but certainly welcome aftermarket if it becomes available!!!!
Is that one of the few, limited edition Camel Trophy Defenders? When aired up to off road height, do you lose much cushion, or can you run it lower than fully aired up, and gain a bit of compliance up top?
Nice looking rig.
Thank you! Yes, Barry is one of 220 Trophy Editions. We only air to full Offroad height if we need the clearance for an obstacle. It rides like crap fully inflated (they all do) so you only pump it up occasionally as needed. The 5” subframe lift and 37’s allows us to remain in standard ride height through most of the trail.
@@cotrails8356 Cool! I have a white one on order, hope to have it on the trails by New Year's, scheduled to arrive in December, and I'll be looking at Lucky8 for some add-ons!
Limb risers would complete the classic look on Barry!
It looks like a supped up Ford escape
What is the defender leaking at around 2:40 min?
Washer fluid. Too steep of angle with full washer reservoir leaks on all of them
Where can I get one of those Land Rover hats?
We used to make them… they are our Land Rover Denver logo. Maybe we’ll make some again later this year
@co trail have a look at green Landy of LROR channel
That is some badass builds
Love it!!!! Wheeled with the Nor Cal crew in Moab and had a blast. Would love to hook up some time👍👍🤣
What is the height of the defender 37's? thanks
Any more footage?
Yes. I have a few trails to edit. Were restoring a CJ7 and almost done… Will free up some time to get them done and posted👍
@@cotrails8356 Thanks for the reply my friend. Looking forward to more exploits of how Big Barry is doing - I am particularly interested in the improved 'wheel' articulation since you disconnected the sway bars.
@@allyngoulding8372 it is a game changer. Suggesting the same to Bronco crowd
How much does a setup like that run?
The lift is about $8000 depending on what size you choose. Labor for install is about 20 hours for everything we did. Wheels and tires depend on what you choose to go with...
What was leaking at 2:48?
Washer fluid. Cal wasn’t engineered to be that steep
Everything leaks out of a landy. I am surprised the computer kept going and didn’t throw an exception