Green New Deal: Fact versus Fiction
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- Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal proposes to save the planet. It calls for the United States to reduce carbon emissions to zero in 10 years.
James Meigs, former editor of Popular Mechanics, tells me “That's a goal you could only imagine possible if you have no idea how the energy economy works or how energy is produced in this country.”
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The Green New Deal calls for a transition to 100 percent renewable energy, many more wind turbines and solar panels.
But the wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’t always shine.
Because of that, Meigs explains, “You also have to build all this infrastructure to connect [renewables] with energy consumers possibly very far away, and you always need some kind of backup power.”
That means many more transmission lines and bigger batteries.
But “batteries are lousy way to store energy” says physicist Mark Mills, a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. He also points out that wind mills and solar panels are anything but green, “I have to dig up a 1,000 pounds of stuff to process it … digging up is done with oil, by the way, big machines, so we're consuming energy to quote, save energy. It's not a good path to go.”
It would also be very expensive.
Mills points out, "We're charging more for people who can't afford it and we give money to wealthy people in the form of subsidies to buy 100,000 dollar [electric] cars, put expensive solar arrays on their roof or to be investors in wind farms. We have an upside down Robin Hood in our country to the tunes of 10s and 100s of billions of dollars."
The bottom line, the Green New Deal, even if it were scientifically possible:
Would hurt the poor.
Cost everyone more.
And make energy less reliable.
I have a better idea: let’s get rid of politicians in 12 years. It’s The Great New Deal.
Or at least the clueless bimbo that come up this stupid plan in the first place. It just blows my mind how many of the other candidates are jumping on this bandwagon
@P4OUR , so you think guaranteed income for those unwilling to work isn't stupid? Before you say thats a lie, I actually read that on her own website
It is disturbing that so many people here have no faith in the market and USA being able to find solutions to these problems. The market is great in finding solutions. The market just need some incentives to find solutions, and then they will find them fast, that is make it more profitable to reduce the emission of CO2 (directly and indirectly).
Get rid of the CEO:s that doesn't want to change to more energy efficient processes. That doesn't want to think of the environment.
Actually, CEO:s are not super humans, not are politicians. And yes, you get the politicians you deserve, if you don't vote on those you want.
And again, that is not the problem.
The problem is the market have to get incitement to change to more energy efficient ways of do what companies do. THEN they will fast create great solutions for the problem with coal emissions in the environment. How do we do that? By make it COST to burn oil and coal. THEN you will see a FAST shift into more efficient companies. As companies love to reduce cost, as it makes them more competitive on the market.
They will actually make them invest in better processes and more efficient use of the oil and coal they have to use. And the technology they develop, can be be sold on the market, making new jobs and even new companies.
So yes. Make it more costly to burn coal and oil, and we will actually see a fast reduction on CO2 emissions. If not, companies will continue with what they do, as THAT will be most cost efficient. And the emission of CO2 (that is coal) in the environment will continue to increase.
It is disturbing that so many people here have no faith in the market and USA being able to find solutions to these problems.
@@AndersJackson , maybe, either that or the cost will simply be shifted to the consumer. On top of that, the amount of $$ going into r&d while burning high priced coal and oil. The only real solution involves people getting together and not supporting giant corporations, which would mean big changes in lifestyles, which would not happen in our modern world unfortunately
@@mikeb1596 the customers will go to the most cost efficient solutions, that is why companies that take advantage of technologies that is low carbon use and efficient energy use will benefit. That is why developing those technologies and sell them will generate profits. And then will give customers products with lower price then from those that stay in old technologies.
So companies that doesn't invest, have to charge more, and thus looses customers.
You know, the market are giving the one with a good price/quality product an advantage. And if one stay in old (bad when it comes to Coal emissions) technology, the need to invest will be lower, their price lower and they will have an advantage.
No new investment or research will give them an advantage over those that do (or want to). That is the problem now.
With taxation or Coal emission market, that will level out, as there are a cost of not using newer technology. And when alternative solutions have been developed and all companies have invested into that efficient technology, there will no longer be a need for those taxes, and their impact on markets prices will be gone. Sort of self regulating. :-)
This IS all going against huge companies that doesn't invest in R&D and in replace old bad technology.
By knowing the markets pro and cons, yes, it IS possible to see a change in our lifetime, and we MUST have a change in our life time. If not, there are a big risk that lots of ice will melt and huge parts of USA will be under water. And our great-great children (or so) will have huge problems because of us.
I don't need nuclear power plants. _My_ electricity comes out of a power outlet.
Hillarious!
Lmao!
Alexandria, is that you? Get me a beer!
Funny isn't it. Nuclear is the ONLY current technology that could actually replace fossil fuels or a large portion of them relatively quickly. France embraced Nuclear decades ago and now has cheap reliable power. But liberals oppose Nuclear and would rather dig up stuff to make batteries. Makes no sense.
Checkmate, nuclear bomb plants!
I taught physics for 33 years, and every year when we came to nuclear physics, I did my best to educate my students about nuclear power. I was honest, and addressed the concerns they had about accidents with facts. The problem is that as soon as they get to the modern American Gulags, we call Universities, they are brainwashed to follow the radical left wing agenda, which includes abolishing nuclear power.
You cannot be more correct. It is so sad to know we have had a viable solution to the worlds power needs since the 50's. The MSR experiment at Oak Ridge was the proof of concept. It will work and it is safe, possibly more so than coal or natural gas. Instead of pursuing a viable technology; science has been chasing the phantom of fusion for three generations telling us it is always just 20 years away.
Personally, I don't think plasma confinement fusion will ever work; certainly not without start up and maintenance requirements provided by a dedicated fission MSR. They are working on the assumption that stars are made of gaseous hydrogen. When, much of the spectral evidence suggests that our star is mostly metallic hydrogen; a sort of metallic plasma. Which, NASA a few years ago released research on; Lattice Confinement Fusion. More and more the evidence is suggesting that billions of dollars and 60+ years have been wasted trying to upscale a novelty into an industrial machine: Farnsworth Fusor. All along Ponds and Fleischmann were correct that low energy nuclear reactions with a net positive heat output are possible even at room temperatures.
No nuclear, no hydro power, no strip mining, no fossil fuels, no firewood. So I, knowing where this is going, picks up my flint-tipped spear to go hunting and they tell me "hunting is gross, we should be vegan." Like how do you plan to grow your plant-based food when you have no fuel for your farm equipment, no electricity, no livestock, and no fertilizer? I've come to see the green movement as a nihilistic death cult; just get rid of the humans and the earth will live on.
Would you have one next door? Statistically nuclear plants are safe but when something goes wrong...?
@@aphilipdent things go wrong with other energy sources too like coalfield fires, oil spills, coal plant explosions etc. which are much more common than nuclear accidents. plus fossil fuels kill millions of people every year due to air pollution. if having nuclear plants next door means an opportunity to have a zero emissions/green future, then so be it...
Weak Minded Kool Aid Drinkers Proliferate the Planet...'ALL Emotion No Thought'...!!!..
I remember reading an infuriating article where someone said that Nuclear Energy is bad because when old plants are forced to shut down, Carbon emissions then increased. It's annoying just how many people are mislead by the media and politicians about Nuclear Energy.
And who are the idiots forcing the shutdowns?
AOC's knowledge on nuclear power is based on The Simpsons
She knows less than Homer about nuclear power. Actually Homer knows more about everything than she does so how did she get elected?
Homer needs to start choking AOC rather than Bart
@@halcooper6059 She lives in new york!
She know more about Homer than anyone else.
to say zero emissions is either just really stupid or ignorant. Everything you do has an environmental impact.
It’s not about the environment, it’s about government control and taxation.
Exactly, Industry just couldn't keep up with all these crazy, lunatic demands and so they either close down or the Government would have to step-in and and take them over to get them into compliance. However, just like China, once the Government takes over the RULES go out the window the Companies under Gov. control do whatever they want. And then you have that nice little mix of Socialism and Communism and Corruption and STILL no change in Carbon emissions! It's a good ol' power grab but with a nice sounding moniker of "Hope and Change" "Green New Deal" "Free College for All" sounds so good, what could possibly go wrong? History shows us; end result starvation and genocide.
@Hans Which makes this scarily befitting for the current state of US regulation. The regulation state is actually a way of enforcing privatized socialism. Budding industries are relatively allowed to grow on their own, until they reach a point where government officials will want control over and money from them. After which point, they will start to threaten regulation to the largest players, and the first one to give in will get to work with the government to put in regulations that favor them and make it largely impossible for new competition to enter into the marketplace. Just look at the EU's recent involvement with online Link sharing policies and whatnot. Now, any websites that have any users post links without licensing them will be at risk of being sued. This basically makes it impossible for any forum or file sharing website to exist in the EU unless they're already massive with large enough margins to pay off these things. Not only that, they're expected to create automatized content filters. No startup will have the funds to create such a thing to remotely compare or compete with the already existing firms, like Facebook or CZcams. Not without major donors or super wealthy founders who can hire massive teams to create such things.
For comparable industries in the US, just look at banking, finance, or really any large industry. They've been trying to do it with crypto too, ever since the 2017 influx. The crypto recession was promoted by existing financial industry companies who didn't have any way to gain on the growth of crypto. They gave large financial firms the ability to conduct options on it, betting on the prices going up and down, and they forced the price down and kept pushing it down especially through the end of last summer. It's been coming back recently because most of the big shorts have already cashed out of the market.
@Hans Yes it does, bad environment means low real estate prices, and real estate is a large part of capitalism.
Lance Darby Money money money! & most of all CONTROL!
Yep, these dumb liberals who hate big corporations are actually actively supporting this scam to forcefully prop up selected big corporations.
Why don't we have more journalists like John Stossel? He's like a breath of fresh air (truth).
@joe Like a breath of mustard gas (lies).
You need to figure out what journalism is. Or stop lying yourself.
As an Eco geek this is pretty factual formation. Nuclear energy is far superior
They always spook you with the nuclear waste. They are still thinking in Mr Burns that put waste inside trees 🤣
Yes totally agree as long its capable of sustainable energy which it is as long as its controllable and shielded for safety. But uranium is limited . As is plutonium.
@@jeffreybrannon1235 thorium
@Jeffrey Brannon yes, but there are many other sources of power for nuclear plants. We aren't just limited to those.
@@dawsonreum8096 Yes of course, there are our vast supplies of um...well, astatine-210, with its 8 hour half-life. Or um... uh... unbitrium. And unbibium. Ununennium. Unmentionablum.
More people have fallen off roofs installing solar panels than have died in the entire history of nuclear power... that statement is eye opening!!!
No, dozens of times more people have fallen off roofs installing solar panels, in the USA, than died in the entire history of nuclear power, but the number of those falls that resulted in death is only a little bit more.
There's an important part of that that you are missing: "nuclear power in the US". That in the US really warps it because we tested nuclear power outside our borders, and when people die of cancer due to radiation exposure in factories, the companies have enough say that the line between the radiation people are exposed to and the cancer they develop cannot be drawn.
@@maxtitanic299 Actually, the US is the largest producer of nuclear power, at 30%, so that says something.
I'm pretty sure France leads in nuclear but nuclear is definitely out best option
@@wasted3secondsreadingmyuse30 Yes, the US is the largest producer, but in France, compared to natural gas and coal, nuclear is dominant. The Green New Deal for the US won’t do a thing.
"People aren't stupid, but they're susceptible to fear."
-A nice, conscientious guy.
this, ladies and gentlemen, is a universal description on why civilizations for millenias are repeating the same mistakes over, and over again.
He's wrong: people are stupid (yes, I'm a person, and I do stupid things when I don't control my stupid brain, and my stupid mouth gives my stupid thoughts and intentions away). 😁
@@danielkutcher5704 people are stupid in crowds but smart as an individual.
Groups of people always cater to the least common denominator. But the larger the grouping, the lower that denominator is. This explains the counterintuitive phenomena of the collective idiocy of highly educated individuals. It's the same reason that learned scientists spend billions of dollars building collosal atom smashers in order to look for a few subatomic particles instead of feeding the hungry of the world with that money.
On nuclear power; the reactors of the future will be even safer than those of the past. New reactor designs are smaller, modular, highly scalable, and far safer!
@@MrBrelindm I don't think it is the scientists who are responsible for "wasting" money on particle accelerator.
besides, the very reason why huge collider exist, which is unifying quantum mechanics and general relativity, will eventually solve the world hunger.
you may ask how, but everyone asked the same thing when newton invented calculus and theory of gravity that eventually became the foundation of the creation of canned food machinery, combine harvesters and tractors.
@@MrBrelindm Love what you said about scientists, wasting money playing with theories, hoping to show the world how smart they are (or stupid they aren't)... and they use government grants and probably get special tax deductions for their playtime, er, projects. Many are engaged in the search for useful things, especially in the medical field, but some have more curiosity than purpose.
The truth never gets old! Thanks John, you're doing great work!
@varmint666 Yes, telling lies he gets from the right wing science denial industry to slow down the end of fossil & nuclear fuels, threatening civilization & nature for millions of dollars. Great work if you can get it. And then live with yourself.
These men would be “shouted down” in a speech or lecture because they can’t be allowed to be heard.
"The majority of Americans support GND" - Another example of how pure democracy will be a disaster.
Exactly, they're not even told what's in it, they're just asked at random by surveyors if they'd be interested in a "Green New Deal" or "Legislation to protect the environment" without telling them what's actually in the plan. It's how extremists gather support for their causes, that's how you really know AOC and everyone backing the thing is legitimately crazy and manipulative
Republic not a democracy. Many Americans want democracy 😡
@@qeoo6578 And they're foolish. Pure democracies can opt to have a vote on anything immediately and make long lasting bad decisions in the heat of the moment nearly instantaneously. It's incredibly dangerous. Heck, republics can even do this if enough of the wrong people are in power at once. Just look at New Zealand. They voted away the rights of all of their citizens to own semi-automatic guns (*see effectively all guns) within weeks of the mosque shooter act of terrorism. 1 act of terrorism across the entire life of the country and they removed the gun ownership rights of their entire population. And it was in response to someone who wasn't even a citizen. Terrible. Truly an abuse of power and an attack on their own people. Now they have no way to defend themselves if anyone ever targets them again. Absolutely disgraceful
Democratic Republic is not a democracy. You want democracy go to England
Wrong the majority of people don’t even know what it is because they don’t watch the news because they don’t trust it anymore
Germany shut down nuclear, and now they are beholden to Russia for energy. Being self sufficient in energy is also a matter of national security.
After Googling for a while to find out why green new deal don't include nuclear power. This is one of the main reason.
"To see why, take a look at the Watts Bar 2 nuclear power plant. Watts Bar 2 started supplying power in June of 2016, becoming the first nuclear power plant to be built in the U.S. in two decades. Overall, Watts Bar 2 was the result of 37 years of construction. For most of that period the reactor simply languished in a sort of economic limbo. Construction was halted in 1985 due to low energy prices and only resumed in 2007."
Source: www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/amp26255413/green-new-deal-nuclear-power/
So, it's extremely unrealistic to include it in 10 years plan of green new deal. Although i support nuclear power. got a better idea except complaining?
@UCprPhW8e7JNmlQpZMTSFsAg i am wondering what the native American think when a weird humanoid alien suddenly coming from the sea.
@Standing While White & Proud No Shame i just realized that your name is standing while white and proud. I don't know how my previous comment make it to become weird. Why do you think i want to insult a white american. I hate racism. I hate someone bring it up. It's pathetic you tried to bring racism here.
@Standing While White & Proud No Shame you think i live in china? I don't live in china. You think US is open border? US is NOT open border, you idiot. It's never a open border.
@Standing While White & Proud No Shame actually, in my country diversity is unity. So it's your turn to try it. My country already try it.
John, what will we ever do or truth reveal without you. I have nothing but the utmost love and respect for you and your form of true journalism. Impeccable integrity.
I used to watch you on TV when I was a kid. I'm so glad to see you have an independent channel now. Please rally together other independent journalists and start a network. You don't need a billion dollars to compete with FOX or CNN - all you need is the integrity that you already possess and have proven to maintain over decades in a corrupt industry. It's good to have you back, Mr. Stossel ~Subbed
I am a Physicist and I have been trying to explain, for years to as many people as I can, everything in this video. But my outreach is small, I am only one person. So thank you John Stossel for showing almost 1 million people what the true facts are when it comes to energy production.
Unfortunately, the wrong people are listening to these video's, if they do, the personal payoff's are more important to them!!
Well why dont you or this Video how expensive, resource innefficient nuclear also is then? Its an energy form that always needed way more tax money. And as a physist, lets not talb about accidents even, but you are ready as public ti do your part and Story some waste for 3 million years in your basement? Oh right for some fee a private contractor will make tank braking weapons with it and drop it onto sone desert peoole. Murican freedom...and " science" You went to TrumpU or PragerU? :-D
@@herzkine you should do a little research on molten salt nuclear reactors. they are 180º away from what you're describing
I get the sense that a belief in "renewable" energy is the same as a belief in a perpetual motion machine.
@@herzkine You may be the worst physist of all time, you can't even spell, are drunk? The only drawback nuclear has is the waste, and Yucca mountain was just about to do just that, until Harry Reed stepped in. Millions spent building the perfect spot, but no one wants rad waste on their roads! Nuclear waste is packaged almost indestructcable. The chemicals driven across our roads would do way more damage!!
Nuclear Power is the way
As a physicist I agree
THORIUM!
Nuclear is uneconomic...which is why New York put out a bid for 4,000 MW of offshore wind.
What do you do with the waste?
Bob Stadelmayer what do you do with fossil fuel energy waste
I am a mechanical engineer and studied power generation extensively. Fortunately in India, engineering schools are run on Science and not swayed by political ideology. We were taught, correctly the pros and cons of Wind, solar and hydro. And also that Nuclear power is the only safe and reliable 'green' energy option.We have been building and plan to build many new nuclear power plants accross India. It is interesting to see how America (which I considered a great country as a child) has been regressing and India has been progressing.
There is the problem of storing the waste. Also the cooling water releases some radiation.(higher radiation levels in the Irish Sea due to Frances nukes) Not completely green but perhaps the best alternative at the moment.
Thanks John for what you do we need reporters like you....that are not bought off
These politicians worry me a lot more than carbon emissions. You should be more worried about them too.
Exactly
@@KMF3 Effluent of one single factory can be low, effluent of 100 factories together can be deadly. So you can't sue any factory individually, because their effluent is low. And you can't sue all factories together, because one factory can't be responsible for the existence or increase of production of other factories. So, without government regulations, there is nobody responsible.
@@goranmilic442 you don't have an argument from me there
"It is always attractive to say you will do good at the expense of others." --Milton Friedman
the trick is getting others to foot the bill without anyone finding out.
I like the topics he tackles and the conversation he creates around them.
Fantastic reporting John! Love the “I’d support free apple pie” line!
People always support government programs, until they personally have to pay for it.
Privatize the benefits, socialize the costs. What could go wrong?
@@Shellova Seattle and LA already fell that. and the people blaming the Govt. SMH
They'll always end up paying for it anyways
I wish I could decide where to allocate my own tax dollars.
@@DodgeThis UBI
One wind turbine says to the other, "what kind of music do you like?"
The other responds, "I'm a huge metal fan"
Do you listen to Rodger and JP? Herd that exact joke on there just two weeks ago...
@@MrJoshcc600 I heard that exact joke 2 years ago...
New US wind is now 2 cents per kilowatt hour. New US solar PV is now 3 cents per kilowatt hour.
Aaron Vallejo
That is not true. Who ever told you that probably has some beachfront property in Yuma too!
Anne Mouse, Wind energy prices drop to 2 cents per kilowatt hours. August 27, 2018. dailyenergyinsider.com/news/14439-wind-energy-prices-drop-to-2-cents-per-kilowatt-hours/ TEP to buy solar power at under 3 cents per kWh. May 25, 2017. www.pv-magazine.com/2017/05/25/tep-to-buy-solar-power-at-under-3-cents-per-kwh/ New US Solar Record - 2.155 Cents Per kWh! June 14, 2018. cleantechnica.com/2018/06/14/new-us-solar-record-2-155-cents-per-kwh-400-mwh-of-energy-storage/
Great video, whenever I need a little certainty, some clarification, I turn to this channel, or others like it. but there aren't many others like it, and this is one of the best video's of them all. So many facts and ideas that I can think with and work with. Again, great video.
Some shows I go straight to the comments. Good job Stossel.
I love how stossel plays devil’s advocate with whoever he’s interviewing. He obviously doesn’t believe the questions he’s asking but he asks the questions that people from the other side would ask
that's what a journalist should do, not today's talking head explosion of drivel
No he asks dumbed down versions of the questions the opposing side would ask to prove a point
He softballs. I wish he asked harder questions.
@@aruiz90 true it is really awesome
Perhaps Stossel is a 'real' American in disguise.
"People aren't stupid, but they're susceptible to fear." Can you say CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC and on and on!
A person isn't stupid, people are
Fear-mongering "news" networks
Add Fox and NPR to that list.
@@TheRastacabbage 😂😂😂
You left out HuffPost - run by another airhead.
Just found these John Stossel videos! Finally someone is making sense! Bravo, John!!! Now, if You Tube cancels you, we are surely heading toward a very dark time.
The Ignorance of humanity is daunting. We will never survive ourselves.
The irony of nuclear the plants were designed in the 60's, it's like judging airplanes based on a DC-10 or a computer based on the mainframes from eighty years ago.
Well the DC-10 did have a few spectacular crashes. Nonetheless, i would rather fly on DC-10/KC-10/MD-11 then on anything produced by Boeing after 2005, especially the MAX family and anything that uses the MAX technology
What about the DC9 ?
A more accurate analogy would be trying to judge aircraft designed and built today on the merits of aircraft designed and built in the late 40s. Sure, the MAX has teething issues, but you don't have the things randomly exploding in midair like Comet, or colliding with other aircraft because ATC doesn't have a clue where they are in the sky at any given time (like the Grand Canyon Collision)
@@tamaslapsanszki8744 so a design flawed cargo door failure is safer than couple lines of code that the accident could have been avoided by flipping 2 toggle switches and better training of pilots. If DC-10 door issue happened in today's 24 news and social media environment, it would have suffered more than MAX. BTW Airbus had the similar incidents as MAX.
Well said!!!!!
THOSE WHO TRADE FREEDOM FOR SECURITY WILL LOSE BOTH
Umless we wake up....soon....what's left of our freedoms will be gone...
Yep! Socialism maybe even Communism? Keep it up America with your new age leadership!
Amen.
By Benjamin Franklin one of our founding fathers
Eh, it's just a libertarian line to justify why not to put crucial regulations...
"People aren't stupid but they are vulnerable to fear"' Really feeling that now in 2021
All Your work is excellent john Thank You
I want to know more about the comic-book magic options, please.
See: Green New Deal
Michael Brendzel
I have heard of a great new story book about magic socialist ferries who save the planet from the evil Capitalist Overloards by raising our taxes and taking away our cars, planes and Delmonico steaks. It's called The Green New Deal.
Snap fingers, sosialist go away...
Me too. How do we get there?
@Ethan Lion7 Is nuclear power magic?
3 words: Nuclear Power Plants.
The "greenest" kind of energy production (maybe with geothermic and hydroelectric, but it's not like we could build Colorado rivers and Yellowstone geysers everywhere...)
Yeah that worked real well in Fukushima...
@@krisofamerica Stop spamming that everywhere. Fukushima was built next to a tsunami danger zone because of govermental corruption, not because it was the only spot to build a nuclear power plant
@draxx them sklounst Why not if it's limited to wastes, however I'm not a huge fan of making energy production compete with the physiological requirement to eat.
@@krisofamerica um..... yeah.... right. The death rate for Fission plants is still far lower than all other sources of power....
@@krisofamerica It was an old plant with many issues.
More people died falling off roofs installing solar than nuclear in its lifetime. That one line tho.
6:47 The placement and planning of this shot is hilariously over-the top. Such a brilliant display of a non-scripted 'shot'. ( Complete with eager, cult-acolytes, on knees patiently waiting )
Thanks, John Stossel. Your videos ought to be mandatory viewing.
psa110 agree
psa110 how non-libertarian of you
I definitely agree with that! I’m showing to my kids..
@@colterthompson6846 Yeah, you're right. I just mean to say that people need to be educated and woken out of their sleep of ignorance.
If you want a biased one way view. We need to hear a good debate with qualified impartial people with scientific evidence. Not smart businessmen with an agenda. Removing profit from science might be the only way to get impartiality and that means changing our capitalist system. Not removing capitalism, but altering it to prevent all the misinformation out there for personal gain.
Politicians can't grease their pockets with nuclear energy..
Exactly, there is no money to be made.........
Exactly
Are you joking- nuclear lobby is giant money.
@@CHMichael I was about to say this is some bullshit but you beat me to it
Why is that
This woman doesn’t seem to have a clue in realistic things.
Which woman?
@@azmike3572
I think he thinks on Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez.
@@Jitssyu Okay, thanks.
She is setting up a goal, and if the complaint is that we will never get there: that is not a reason to keep polluting, that is a reason to give more money to the green scientists so they can create a way to zero emissions or we will die.
Thank you again John Stossel.
35 B given to Solyndra by Obama, yet they still folded. I'd sure like to see the homes of the board members and their porfolios now
Exactly
Wasn't that the company bought up by Tesla?
*M
500 million, a half BILLION, gone.
“People aren’t stupid” sure they aren’t.
There are only two things that are infinite. The universe, and human stupidity; and we aren't certain about the former...
There is no such thing as a free lunch; there is always a price tag...period.
An electrical engineer held a lecture on "renewable" energy. He clearly stated the case that at BEST... "renewable" energy is only a standby system. The Sun doesn't shine 24/7 nor does the wind blow 24/7. Wind is also dangerous since the turbines can't work in high winds. High wind destroys the turbines and those destroyed turbines take a couple of years to make and replace. We had such a windmill here.... it's life span was 5 years and it stopped working. About 2 years later it was tore down and never replaced.
"100% renewable energy"
Um, I'm pretty sure that's simply impossible.
It is impossible. Technically, 100% renewable energy is impossible unless we find a way to create matter from nothing.
@@donder172 law of conservation of energy
@@alcredeur Haven't really heard of it. Though based on your comment, I assume it says my previous statement is incorrect.
Donder172 it just means energy has to be made from existing matter and it cant make matter or energy from nothing. Energy is never fully used up naturally it just reverts back to matter and when it gains enough "power" it can be used as energy
Al Credeur reach for the stars and you’ll land on the moon
The “greener” we get, the more we consume and waste. It’s a pretty hilariously sad cycle.
TED CARL I know right! It also gets expensive! Same for "organic " foods. It's all a marketing scheme!
But then the temp will rise and it will be unreversable
Sky TrexZ Earth’s temperature has been higher than it currently is. The Middle Ages were about as hot as our current era
Aaron Landry it’s not only about the temperature, it’s about the ocean getting more acidic, the co2 increasing at a dramatic rate, which is unreversable, mass migration all because of the our industrialized society
Sky TrexZ CO2 is reversible. Plants do photosynthesis everyday.
Carbonic acid is about a 4.12 making it a mid-strength acid, however, that’s unlikely to hurt much of anything, because the ocean has a PH of 7.5-8.4, making it fairly alkaline, which means that the salts would just naturally neutralize the small amounts of acid to form water and salts.
More importantly is how little Carbonic acid is present by comparison. Considering the size of the ocean, it’s like maybe one drop in two or three gallons.
Mass migrations have only been caused by wars and unstable governments mainly in the Middle East. This is not relevant to Global Warming.
how am I just finding this man? and how do you not have more subscribers?
Thank God for John "The Critical Thinker" Stossel!!!
The original new deal turned out to be a disaster so why follow it?
Because people aren't taught history in school.
Because the new deal and the green new deal, were and are about government control. Democrat's are all about big government because they arrogantly believe they have all the knowledge and everyone else is stupid.
Because the main purpose of the New Deal was to remove Constitutional protections from the people and make the government more powerful. The Green New Deal will remove ALL protections and make the government ALL Powerful just like in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, or in Maoist China.
becuase politics sucks
@Hans You mean other than the fact it was a murderous totalitarian socialist regime?
Wow, this actually sold me on nuclear energy. I didn't know much about it, and was skeptical, but the people who spoke about it did a great job.
Nuclear is where the future is at,
check out andrew yang, he's got a way more realistic plan for reducing carbon emissions that involve using next gen thorium reactors
Shaun Big pp Doesn’t matter anymore, because he’s out of the race
F0XYr4bB!T Don’t bother checking out Yang anymore. He’s out
look up molten salt reactors. a commentor above here brings up Thorium. That's a good place to start reading about it.
Fantastic and informative as always! Loved the video! 👍🏻👍🏻
Wow people with brains.
I worked in a windmill plant. Those things are anything but green. The shear amount of waste alone....
I am curious, I haven't heard of anyone talking about waste from them before, could you please elaborate?
I think he is referring to the fibreglass process in manufacturing the huge blades. Other wise we can recycle all the other steel parts. I think Vestas is working on Cradle to Cradle blades for clean recycling.
The fiberglass carbon fiber glues foam and plastics. Th e plant i worked in used almost exclusively prepreg materials or pre impregnated sheets lf carbon fiber and fiberglass. To keep them from sticking together when on thr bulk roll each side has a plastic backing like double stick tape. Each blade was over 150ft long. Thats a lot of the thin plastic. Then theres the cutoffs of the fiber and carbon not to mention the pvc foam the extremely caustic glues involved the nasty paints the fiberglass dust etc. It doesnt take long for all of that to add up. 2 or 3 blades had enoygh wast material to fill a full size rolloff dumpster easily.
@@jasonciola1783 he is talking about the amount of oil that is used to keep all the gears lubricated. Fossil oils are the only ones efficient enough to keep the windmills lubricated. That alone causes a lot of environmental damage. The oil drips into the ground and kills the plants and seeps into the water table. I did my research on environmental renewable sources for college and I was shocked on how much waste and pollution the so-called clean energy Solutions create.
@@trailblazer632 not to mention fiberglass is very very bad for the environment.
Imagine when they say poor people they show a clip of your street 😂
@Hank Scorpio You ever seen a man say goodbye to a shoe?
People that live in poor neighborhoods acknowledge that. So if someone says they're neighborhood is poor, it doesn't surprise them.
Hahaha
Stossel just keeps getting better by the day.
Stossel fails to disclose he has received over $1.3 million from Koch foundations (who has a large interest in oil) since 2014, which is shown in the tax filings of Charles Koch Foundation and Charles Koch Institute.
GREAT post
These people being so vehemently against nuclear energy, just shows you that it has never been about the environment.
@itserich what... a bone-dry powder in special containers designed for 1,000 years... that waste?
@itserich you bury the containers in the bedrock permanently?
@itserich You bury it in the ground, like we have done so far?
@@ct1762 Yes, that waste, which is hazardous for tens of thousands of years. A container that only lasts for a thousand years is insufficient, never mind the fact we're running out of places to bury them.
@@nicklasveva How much energy does it take to tunnel into bedrock to store nuclear waste? Is it less than the energy it takes to build solar panels and wind generators?
"A majority of Americans support the idea." Yes. And a majority of Americans thought slavery was a good idea back in the early to mid 1800s. And a majority of Americans thought racial segregation was a good idea in the early to mid 1900s. Just because "a majority" supports something doesn't make it *right.*
A majority of Americans do not know Ohm's law, cannot define a Joule, nor an Amp, nor a Volt. A majority of Americans have literally *zero clue* how the electrical grid *actually works* but they support these "green" ideas because the media tells them that they're "good" ideas. Just because "a majority" supports the Green New Deal doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
You are absolutely right! And just because the media says most people, doesn’t mean it’s true. The same people who panic when the power goes out for an hour.
THANK YOU. I was talking to someone who didn't believe the media was causing a political divide in America because of how they easily leave out tons of information. They didn't believe that, but most of everyone I know doesn't wanna give a shit about politics, and whatever the medis tells them that SOUNDS sensible, they believe it. They're not dumb people, they just don't care enough to look further.
The lesson: while we should support a free press, we are foolish to let them operate with no accountability, and then take our moral and social cues from them.
I totally agree with you. Iam so fortunate that I don't follow the crowds. Especially when it comes to unrealistic ideas from the leftists.
Thank You For Sharing 🇺🇲
This video needs to be shown to everyone
This is what journalism looks like. Great video John Stossel!
Oh. I thought that journalism meant that you had to say how bad Trump was every two minutes.
@@my3dviews Lmao! That's exactly right
I mean surely a journalist would have actually read the resolution!? Clearly the makers of this video hadn't. Some of the ideas were good but the GND they presented was a fox news produced strew man.
@@simonwalker8483 you arent serious, right?
Edit: give me a link to the "real" proposal, if you are serious.
@@Swervee9 Hi! Yeah I am. It's just annoying really and perhaps it's our political times but everything seems polarising. Avoiding climate change shouldn't be. How we avoid it should be debated though. The GND resolution is here. As you'll see, it's pretty vague and doesn't say that much concretely because it is an opening of the conversation. So video's like this that claim that specific absurdities really don't even know what it is. Enjoy the read. ocasio-cortez.house.gov/sites/ocasio-cortez.house.gov/files/Resolution%20on%20a%20Green%20New%20Deal.pdf
"Free Apple Pie For Everyone!!!" sounds good to me too. Then I realized what kind of free pies we'd get from the government. Yuck. So we couldn't even do that.
@Michael Bowman, you think they'd still let us have turkey?!! heh heh
thanksfernuthin- It wouldn't be the quality of the pies, although everyone would get "free" apple pies only hard working tax payers would pay for them. Then there would be an entire Department of Apple Pie bureaucracy which would mandate the ingredients and the apple lobby would payoff the politicians, and the cost to make the pies would be 10X the private sector cost.
@Michael Bowman, Roger. Central Authority... retract previous statement. Good day, Government Unit.
@@Columbus1152, Ooooh ho ho ho. I never said they'd be inexpensive. They'd just taste that way!
You guys are hilarious. They need to make students at American highschools try to figure out how to create "free apple pie" programs, So that they can see how useless any of these socialist ideas turn out to be.
Thank you for your search for truth.
Politicians are an existential threat to you living
I've liked your videos for years.
In this piece I really liked James Meigs comment that more people have died falling off roofs installing solar panels than in all nuclear incidents combined. All the rest of your points are well-made too.
"Nuclear" doesn't scare politicians. What REALLY scares politicians is Americans learning of their corruption.
*in the US
kevin---the thousands who died in bombing of hiroshima,nagasaki would take exception to the claim[that is-if they were still alive].. but how about chernobyl and other nuclear plant accidents.. and-where to dispose of this very toxic waste?
John Stossel is the man!
A shill for the oil companies
tonebro66 no, an old school reporter/investigator.
@@tonebro66 So SAD for you...that is why they go after CO2, and NOT the real problem which is Methane, as far as GHG's go.
We love to hate big Oil
Methane is 30 - 40 times worse, but Big OIL isn't the major source
Hard to get kids on board when you tell them "No more Hot Dogs, Hamburgers or Ice cream"!
The Manhattan Institute has received funding from the Koch brothers. Charles Koch is the right-wing billionaire owner of Koch Industries. As one of the richest people in the world, he is a key funder of the right-wing infrastructure.
I’m glad your back
Carbon emissions would drastically decrease if people just stopped breathing.
Humans exhale CO2 at 40,000 ppm! Atmospheric CO2 is only 400 ppm! And there's a lot more humans breathing than cows farting. The only solution is for humans who are truly concerned with climate change to do their part to reduce such high CO2 emissions! Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
And then plants die and all of sudden everyone looks really stupid LOL
If you kill tje oceans then the entire planet dies except maybe bacteria.
Or stop breeding.
Yeah, liberals to be exact.
Environmentalist against nuclear power are hypocrites.
Tell that to the environmentalists in Fukushima or any of the ridiculous number of other failed nuclear areas. And that is not to even mention the storage of deadly spent fuel.
The environmentalists don't know anything about the environment, they only know what the government spits out. If they actually cared & had some intelligence they wouldn't be supporting this crap. Best wishes
@@alfstewart2592 yes, i love stossel, he is pretty amazing really.
@@alfstewart2592 And for all the people that whine about nuclear waste in the ground. It's already there, we have found multiple natural nuclear reactors on earth. Just dump the shit in old mines.
Environmentalists are generally idiots but defending Fukushima is idiotic too. There is observable and measurable pollution from radioactive groundwater that's still contaminating the Pacific ocean and America's west coast. The worst part is denial of this is going to eventually lead to worse conditions in the Pacific that will all theoretically get blamed on fossil fuels and climate change and of course the taxpayers will foot the bill for the industries mistakes, not that money will even be able to fix anything at that point.
You are brilliant John thank you so much
i have loved john stossel for many years. as a fellow libertarian, he makes more sense to me than anything else in the media.
AOC: "we've only got 12 years or we're screwed!"
AOC a few weeks later: "Oh, I was just kidding."
never let facts get in the way of how you choose to think.
It was just about money!
No,(AOC) "Those who really thought the world would end in 12 years are delusional fools" wow @AOC way to tell your followers that they're a bunch of idiots 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
@Frank Atavar
Cortez: "WE HAVE TO BAN FOSSIL FUELS AND SWITCH TO ELECTRICITY!!!"
Anyone with common sense: "Ban fossil fuels? Where do you think electricity comes from?"
Cortez: "THE WALL SOCKETS, YOU RACIST BIGOT!"
They've been alternating between global warming and global cooling hysteria since at least 1919 (great AP article I found from then that sounds like it could've been written yesterday about rising waters and melting ice caps). We are just enough generations in that the propaganda and removal of logical thought has infected so many in this country.
Force everyone into an electric car, then force everyone to pay more for electric, which makes people want to live closer to the city. This is the actual goal here. These people dont give a damn about that owl, turtle or frog. They just want control which is easier to apply in the confinement of cities.
You nailed it. Control. That's the name of the game. Gavin Benito Newsolini signed a bill into law that bans gasoline engines in Commiefornia by 2035. But in the meantime, there's COVID-19.
Exactly if they don't want rural people. They want urban center.
You do know that the same argument works for fuel powered cars right?
Sixtus 95, absolutely. We'll also see gasoline double in price over the next two years making more and more people fall for the EV trap or move to town. Either way we will soon be paying a travel tax, in form of a fee (penalty) for every mile we drive. Or maybe a tax for every mile traveled, whether it be by in an airplane, car or train. There will likely be a reduction or credit to that fee when we ride our bike or walk.
Wind and solar frees people from the confinement of cities because it generates power locally, like on the roof of your house or barn. A lot of places that were never had electric poles to deliver power put in their own wind and solar.
The fact people support it has to do with that thing he mentioned that we are vulnerable to... FEAR
First responsibility for new policies: Make sure they work. What a concept.
" People aren't stupid but.." No. It's ok to say it. They are. Maybe ignorant is a better word.
Some people are stupid some are not. Some are ignorant and same may not know something but are willing to listen. It's probably wise not to call majority of people stupid cause then that person thinks they are the only smart ones with few exceptions that line of thinking can lead to stupidity of astronomical proportions.
@@ocpud2999 a person can be smart. People are dumb and panicking and irrational, and you know it.
Now, please, may I direct your attention here...
Light from Venus reflected off a weather balloon, and refracted through swamp gas...
And thanks to public irrational fears, nuclear plants haven’t been really updated since the 60s or 70s. Fukushima was completed in 1971.
New reactor designs are safer and more efficient than ever.
That's one way to have a nuclear meltdown. Instead of updating them to make them safer, be fearful and leave them outdated. Flawless Logic!
Yep. Those puppies can last 80 years and up, you can recycle the fuel in breeder reactors and the new ones you can LITERALLY bury in the ground and walk away from without fear of a meltdown.
Yet these idiots are invested in a fanciful thinking power source that we don't have the resources, money or land area to build to make a dent in anything. It's like pissing on a forest fire.
They made them actually idiot proof
firebug sadly a lot of old power plants are still running so unless they get taken off from the net and savely deconstructed the risk is still there
nobody wants to talk about that though.
Thank you John. Good journalism.
Terrible journalism. John actively denies scientific facts, and he's funded by oil companies.
An "Inconvenient Truth".
Homer Simpson does more for the environment than AOC 😂
Miguel Valencia Simpson/Flanders 2020
Lmaooo
And he was the guy who poisoned the local lake by dumping pig waste in it XD
My farts do more for the environment than AOC
Idiot comment how a carton figure does more for the environment PLEASE EXPLAIN MORE give me facts details if not KEEP IT TO YOURSELF
Here's why the green new deal is a bad idea: the woman behind it thinks the first New Deal was a good thing.
It is a good idea if you are for wealth distribution.
I am no fan of the green new deal but that’s circular logic.
@@hudsondunn8385 I think he's being cheeky. The point being, she named it the "green new deal" because of the harkening back to the New Deal. Which only makes sense if she presumes the New Deal was good to begin with. You don't name your bill after something you hate.
In reality the ND was terrible. Contributed to the downfall of the black American family structure, and extended the Great Depression even further.
Justin Z
Good point
#BringBackInternmentCamps
The problem is people. Less people = less demand, less pollution and emissions.
Use a condom.
What do they do with the millions of batteries that are not recycleable. Duh
It's Truly time for Liquid Salt Thorium Reactors. #Thorium
Thorium rocks
Isn’t one being built in Germany
@@joesunshine4006 : India and China are taking the lead in this technology. They recognize that small, modular, molten salt reactors are the way forward.
Thorium sands too.
People who have worked in nuclear power say... no.
Solar panels: made of copper, other rare metals, and, of course, OIL!!
Inherently CO2 is only released by logistics and aluminum smelter carbon electrodes by making solar panels. Making all that aluminum framing requires a shitload of electricity though. The CO2 footprint of solar can be very low, IF THEY HAD 100% RENEWABLES! I often joke that aluminum metal will be a fuel source when civilization dies since there's so much energy locked up in it.
Yes and in Alaska grid connect solar PV returns 15 times embodied energy required in manufacturing and in Arizona 27 times.
For wind the embodied energy is returned after 4.5 to 5.5 months.
@@leerman22 not even including the recycling process! There is cost in all directions that these morons ignore just for votes. They don't know shit.
rip
@John Lester Electricity also comes from regional wind farms, regional hydro dams or solar PV on our roofs.
My SunPower solar pv system on my 40 foot garage roof produces 22 kilowatt hours per day.
Just don't have electric car and a mass evacuation you're going to be stuck like Chuck!🤣
So true - great presentation.
It's a fact it got ZERO votes 😂😂😂. Al Gore said Manhattan would be under water by now
An edgy swim gear company should give out snorkels, and swimming masks & call it Al Gore's climate hoax day. I can imagine wall street bankers in suits walking around wall street stoically with snorkels.
@@lisanpdx that's a good idea. I hope there's time to get it done, we only have 12 years left 😂
Amellia Mendel Yes, that’s when Alexandria Cortez turns 36, the world ends, and she’s 29 now!
Spanky Harland shhh....liberals don’t know that polar bears can swim well, easily up to 50 miles in cold water.
Never let Al gore us again. Remember when he split the tie on saddling us with Bill Jefferson (BJ) Clinton's massive tax burden, back when Algore was vice president to the president of vice (aka the philanderer-in-chief).
The Green New Deal: Believing you can generate power on pure unicorn farts.
That is a new one that is donkey way to go MAGA for the answer
No farting creates methane and needs to be outlawed. So no unicorn farts. LOL
@@KMF3 But since unicorns subsist on magic liberal fairy dust, they don't fart; only beautiful rainbows shoot out of their asses.
@@reinhardearlin6977 like in Happy where those TellyTubby types send rainbows between their asses? I thought that was some new gender-neutral messaging
Your handle sounds old. You're old-school. Nothing new.. Nothing to contribute. Just old-type thinking.
“…an existential crisis.” The definition of HYPERBOLE!
3 years ago. Here we go.
"People are not stupid"
This guy clearly never met other people.
Spect3r 😂😂😂😂 he hasn’t seen the tide pod challenge
@@carolinademetria500 Indeed lol
That's America today - stupidity, fear and violence.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for the shout out to Nuclear. There's far too much misinformation about the industry going around these days.
Nuclear can not compete...new US wind is 2 cents per kilowatt hour. New US solar PV is 3 cents per kilowatt hour. Australia's 100MW wind farm battery with Tesla Powerpacks is smoothing, balancing, backing up and firming the grid there faster, better and cheaper than natural gas peak plants there. Last month Arizona APS just bought 850MW grid batteries along with 100MW of new solar PV. California at times now generates too much solar PV electricity. 18 states are now pushing 30% wind powered. Iowa is 35% wind powered with among the lowest electric prices in the US. As for workers, please remember US solar PV now has 350,000 workers.
@@Aaron16211 Those are rates after government subsidies and also using nameplate capacity, not actual generation numbers. Solar only has a 30% capacity factor, nuclear had over an 90% capacity factor. Your "solar battery" in Arizona statistics aren't even remotely correct, APS has full use of a 50 megawatt hour battery, not 850.
Solar and wind only power is not possible, google "solar duck curve" and see for yourself that even 10% of the grid being solar starts to cause serious problems. I work in the energy sector and our grid managers hate solar, it's destabilizing.
My state has the second cheapest and the most reliable power in the nation and we use hydro and nuclear almost exclusively. The nuclear plant saved the state over a million dollars a day this winter because wind, solar, and hydro was generating next to zero power for over a month. The state issued a "no touch" order to the plant because it alone was keeping the heat on.
Washingtonians like to not freeze to death in the winter, thanks.
Wind or solar cannot compete with what nuclear can put out. If we go by volume of fuel for output of energy, no fossil fuel can even compete with nuclear. Coal and natural gas are much more reliable and stable forms of energy production than wind or solar. We keep losing more nuclear plants because of stupidity. A good safe energy source with good paying jobs and it is slowly being killed. Mainly by the government. As far as I am concerned we have to have a decent amount of nuclear generation, we can't just shift all the burden over to natural gas and the few hydroelectric plants we have. The government has been trying to kill coal power plants and they have been shifting over to natural gas. But natural gas will not be fairly cheap forever. For nuclear power, we just need to figure out better ways to deal with the spent fuel.
Funny, most of those young Democratic idiots I talk to understand they want nuclear energy as the stable, consistent, regulateable (as in output can change to meet demand) base for renewables.
@@Aaron16211 Now talk about the tons of rare-earth metals that were dug out to make those batteries, destroying hundreds, if not thousands, of acres of nature. Then, talk about the effect on the local and global weather when you plant hundreds of acres with solar cells that prevent sunlight from reaching the ground or wind turbine fields that kill so many birds the companies had to get special dispensation from the government so the EPA would not shut them down. Then, talk about the fact that those batteries will only be usable for between five and ten years at best. Most only last around two or three years. I am not going to say anything about the points Joshua and sdvten made, no need because they did a good job. And the sad part is, that's just the beginning of the problems with wind and solar energy.
Very good information.
😮 oh no, it's hard to change our energy supply. Better not do it then.