I Built a Modern BeBox with HAIKU
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Microcenter must be the easiest sponsor to promote. Such a great retailer
People ask me why I drive so far to go to a computer store. (It's only 45 minutes away to get to the Cambridge, MA store for me.) It's because the deals are great, but also if we want these places to exist, we have a duty to shop at them. Sure, I can buy all of the same stuff online, but going to a brick and morter location and getting to see everything (especially important for picking a case, or laptop, and most importantly a monitor) is better.
The biggest downside? I'll have a shopping list of like $200 in things I want, and then I finally leave with like $1,000 worth the stuff like 30 minutes later. As a tech hoarder, that store is very dangerous to me... but I still continue going. I need my fix! 🤣
I only take sponsorships from Big Tobacco and Raytheon - I enjoy challenge
if only they'd make a location in the PNW
@@first-last557 keep the crime down a bit more, and they might. 😁👍
I doubt they want the place looted every day and shat in by whatever random homeless drug addicts drift in there. 🤣
@sbrazenor2 the Cambridge store is my closest store too...but I live 3.5 hours away in Maine....but I still make the journey there 2 or 3 times a year (usually whenever I'm going to Fenway for a Sox game). Definitely worth the trip everytime!
It is insane that you can build a supercomputer power from 80s/90s using off-the-shelf components and then run BEOS on it. 🤣
It is Haiku he shows, a modern system inspired by Be. Be itself will not run on anything later than pentium iii, and will not allow more than 1Gb of RAM. There will also be complications running modern compilers on it, I think it was tied to gcc 2.95 (ancient). I have a holiday in a few weeks and have collected a dual 440BX motherboard, ram, chips and ssd to have a shot at a build, all from ebay. An IDE to SSD interface should allow a faster experience than the system had 25 years ago. Peripheral cards that used to be expensive are cheap on ebay also - intel chipset network cards, video cards.
Also record a video on your phone post it to the internet and view the video on your watch with wireless earbuds. Probably more absurd things if you told people in the 90s
@@yakmage8085 lets calls it wireless walkman
Bless Mrs. Retro, tolerating infinite shenanigans.
The woman is a saint. 🤣
"I am a big fan of Haiku operating system" , well , we almost didn't noticed it ...xD
Yup, milked 4 videos (including this one) from Haiku
There are two things I want in this world:-
1) Physical stores where I can buy anything I want whenever I want it. No online waiting time.
2) Independently owned shops that have specific types of stock in each one. I don't want everything to be an oversized general store that only has the same handful of products from each category in them. Do you know how annoying it to need something and your only options are Sainsbury's, Kaufland, Alza and Coles, no matter which direction you go?
It's so bloody refreshing to see a CZcams channel be sponsored by an actual shop, not a subscription or website.
"Tea Time at H.P. Lovecrafts House" is my favorite quote this month!
absolutely do not ask about the cat
biblically accurate teapot.
That’s my nearest Microcenter, too! I love it! And everyone on the staff with whom I’ve spoken has been a total pro and super helpful!
oh yeah they are so great there. i'm seriously in there all the time lol
My local store as well! ❤
Must be nice. The closet one to me is a minimum 4 hour drive to get too. 😢
It's my local MicroCenter, too! St. Davids, PA! The same Microcenter where a bit over a year ago I managed to basically win the lottery and snag an RTX 4090 Founders Edition. Thought i'd "missed out" on getting a PNY 4090 because I was there looking at 3D printer filament and thought to myself "Yeah right... what are the odds they'd have a 4090 in stock today?". Literally 30 seconds after I asked that, someone else asked, and they're like "Yep, we have one last PNY brand card in stock". So I was all kinds of pissed off at myself.... went up to another employee, asked if there was any chance they might have another 4090, to which I was told that the last one was just purchased.
Fast forward maybe 10-15 minutes, I picked out my filament that i wanted to get (wanted.... not NEEDED.... can't help but go there and buy at LEAST 2 spools), and was finally telling myself "Ok, time to get out of here before I find other stuff to spend money on". As I walk away from the filament area, the employee walks up to me with a very generic looking, though familiar, brown box, and says "Hey.... according to my manager, there's an RTX 4090 Founder card in here. If you want it, it's yours". Obviously they opened the box just to double check that it WAS a 4090 FE. Other employees looked at it, puzzled they got a FE when only Best Buy gets them. Another customer walked over and told them he wanted it and they're like "Sorry, already claimed". I even took the generic brown box when I bought it, A) because it's a rather overengineered generic brown box, and B) didn't want to be walking around ANYWHERE in the semi-Philly area with a blatantly obvious high-end GPU box in the middle of the GPU shortage.
And on a funny note.... as is typical with MicroCenter (and most other retailers), I got at least one e-mail asking me to leave a review of my recent purchase.... of the 4090 FE...... the card that, to this day, is nowhere on their website (for obvious reasons). They wanted me to leave a review, that would never be seen by anybody, for a card that they don't sell. The even MORE funny part.... I got 2 emails earlier this month, saying I could make use of "an exclusive Trade-In Program for working GPUs purchased at Micro Center, ensuring you get same-day value for your graphics card." That trade in value? $699.95! I could trade in my GPU, in a period where there isn't any other GPU more powerful than it, for probably a little more than half of what I could get for it if I were to just throw it on eBay right now. NICE! lol
@@rmcdudmk2125 hrs for me will have to check them out next time I’m near there
Wish we had something like Micro Center here in the UK!
Overclockers UK, IMEX business park in Stoke on Trent is really good. If I was in England and I was making a new build It's where I'd go.
@@jondonnelly4831That's one store for the whole UK though... and it's in Stoke-on-Trent, the butt of every joke about places in the UK that are terrible.
We used to have a quite similar shop to Micro Center, called Maplin - it sold PC components, cases, etc. It also sold just electronics components for projects, you could go in and buy a single resistor or a bag of 555 timers or anything else.
Unfortunately over time it became less about that and more just mass-market gadgets and then the online retailers just blew it out of the water on pricing. A real shame because being able to get PC parts or electronic components same-day, within the hour if you lived near enough, was fantastic.
PC World used to also be pretty good in terms of selection but now it's just an area in a general electronics and appliances retailer rather than a full standalone store, and it just doesn't have the stock variety that it used to.
Maplin did exist as more of a hobbyist type store but they died like 6 years ago
You know what would be really cool, though? If Haiku supported the modern POWER architecture and the Talos II and Blackbird motherboards. Then you could build a modern IBM POWER-based BeBox. The original was PowerPC-based, right? Much more analogous :)
I love the case design. That BeOS badge on the front is fricken perfect, and the RGB along the sides on the front is brilliant.
Are you in the mod community, Xbox too, you should be able to run Unix on them
original Power PC apps, not sure if people need that, why should you run them on Power PC ?
@@lucasremNot really, but I like to tinker. I did a CPU upgrade on a Power Mac G5 to make a dual 2.5 GHz out of a dual 2.0 GHz using one of the CPU modules out of a dead quad G5, for instance. I once put the guts of a beige G3 tower Mac into an ATX case too. Just yesterday, I installed Fedora Asahi Linux onto a spare M1 Mac mini :) I'm just a lone wolf enthusiast.
What we really need is a USB interface to an Arduino based LED controller (eg. WS2812/5 protocol). A small polling based app that reads CPU usage every 1/60 sec and lights up the LED’s accordingly, and presto, BlinkenLights. A Haiku dev can get this done in a day. For my employer I’ve done something similar (RS232 port), but for mass market appeal you need USB. A good option would be to 3D print a mini case with LED lamps, say 8 strips (like the good old HiFi spectrum analysers) and sell this to retro enthuisiasts.
I love Micro Center, but does anyone else remember their store #1 before they became a "big box" store? It was really something special that I have fond memories of. It was in a two-story building and was set up kinda as if each department was its own store in a small shopping mall. Each department had their own registers, so you could check out from any of them, but it literally felt like you were going into a mall with each store dedicated to something computer or electronics related. It was just missing a food court.
That sounds pretty sick, wish I coulda seen it
oh cool, where was that at?
@@ActionRetro It was on Lane Ave in Columbus, Ohio, where they are based out of.
Fun facts.
Micro Center is an American computer department store founded in Columbus, Ohio in 1979 by two former Radio Shack employees. The first Micro Center store was a 900 sq ft (84 m2). storefront located in the Lane Avenue Shopping Center in Upper Arlington, Ohio. There are 22 Micro Center stores nationwide in California, Colorado, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas, Massachusetts, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Virginia.Micro Center is one of the companies of Micro Electronics, Inc., a privately held corporation headquartered in Hilliard, Ohio in suburban Columbus. Besides selling the name brand products of a multitude of manufacturers, Micro Center also sells products under various of its own brand names. These brand names include PowerSpec, WinBook, and IPSG. As well, their Redemtech division sells used and surplus computing equipment through their stores. Micro Center's slogan (appearing on the store's signage outside the stores) has, in later years, come to be "Micro Center: The Ultimate Computer Store".
@@CoreDreamStudios I've been at their corporate location for interviews a couple of times. I was overqualified both times, but I still think it would be a cool place to work doing something similar to what I do now.
Flip the radiator, it's mounted upside down which is not ideal. It will be noisier and if there's air bubbles it can damage or destroy the pump. Your pump is at the top of the loop with the radiator's current orientation and you never want that, and it'll allow you to mount your pump in the correct orientation rather than sideways.
That's only true if the top part of the radiator is lower than the pump, which is not the case there and this is the recommended orientation for front install. If he used the XL version of the North, he would've mounted the AIO at the top instead.
I soooooo wanna see 2D and 3D acceleration finally work on Haiku, please make it happen this year.
2024 is going to be the year of the haiku desktop
I wish Micro Center would put a store closer to me! My closest one is in Baltimore, but i've stopped at the St. Davids store a few times when out that way to see my kids. Love that place. Oh wait... maybe they shouldn't put a store closer, then i'd be broke!
Same here. The closest store to me is a 4-6 hour drive.
I never leave the store without spending a few hundred on things I don't need.
@@rmcdudmk212 ...... still worth it. Maybe not as often as me driving a hair over an hour to St. Davids.... but still worth it. lol
@@marcosramirez385 In my case, not always a "few hundred"..... but at least 2-4 spools of filament each trip.
This video can't be real. No catastrophes. Nothing went wrong. Completely unlike every other video on this channel. I do love the light strips.
You lucky bastard. Nearest MicroCenter to me is like 2 hours away. Which, to someone who can't drive, feels about as far away as Alpha Centauri.
Get a friend!
Who drives and is into PCs.
lol pretty sure when the Microcenter opened up here in Indy there was a big sign that said "please don't shoot your youtube/tiktok/whatever videos in here"
He did ask for permission, which turned into a sponsorship. Also, I think when they first opened they were limiting videos to the tech influencers to the people who they'd brought in to open the store. Don't know about now, and my local (Dallas) MicroCenter doesn't have any signs
@arthuralford sure wish they'd open one in Tyler.... we could use one in east Texas
I miss mine, haven't had one since I left Houston
That is one cool project! I still have my original BeBox (Dual PPC 66 MHz). It still works after almost 30 years, and I run it every now and then - purely for nostalgia! BTW, the LED strips on the sides reflect the activities of the processors.
13:40 That is one great thing with MicroCenter. Their prices are some of the best compared to online retailers. My class from Carbon Career Technical Institute (from Carbon County, PA) ended up going to Micro Center and I talked with the manager and he said that they work with Brands to sell components and electronics at the lowest price possible
God.... Why'd I have to graduate in 2003.... back when it was the Carbon County Area Vocational Technical School? And yeah, they price match if Amazon has it cheaper, too (to an extent).
I went to Micro Center last week and they were still selling internal narrow SCSI cables! Since I had just had the need for one of those recently, I picked one up.
And yes, they still sell all the old connectivity in the USB aisle.
I can't believe it.
Action Modern.
Okay! Okay! I'll try Haiku! Thanks for showing the boot partition setup btw!
You are very lucky to have a Micro Center nearby. Right now the closest one to us is about an hour away but man, it's awesome. No biggie though, in the old days I had to drive an hour to get to CompUSA, so I'm used to it.😃
My reaction to the idea: "That's ridiculous, absurd, and utterly silly.. I love it!"
Oh man, this makes me miss BeOS so much...
I used it as my primary OS for a while, 1999-2001 or so. It was heartbreaking when they threw in the towel.
Pretty cool build. I am new to the channel and really enjoying it!
I love my "local" MicroCenter... an hour away in Cambridge, MA.
Great video! Love how you used that Fractal case with the lights and badge! I love how you and the Mrs. are having so much fun!
I hope MicroCenter at some point branches out to Sweden, as that's where I live. And I love the idea of a "supermarket of computer parts", which both MediaMarkt and Elgiganten not really are. And recently the MediaMarkt in Kalmar has been replaced with another shop I've never heard of before.
I love Micro Center. I built most of my systems from their parts (there was a brief period in the late 90s/early 2000s where I bought from a small local chain). I would also buy parts/upgrades through them or Fry's. When one of the Fry's closed (online hurt lots of brick and mortar), I started getting worried about the other Fry's and Micro Center. And when the other Fry's went down the drain and the Pandemic hit, I figured it would be a matter of time for Micro Center to close, too But they're doing fine. They are usually very busy on the weekends and sometimes weeknights. So, yay!
Yes, here in Silicon Valley, the one MicroCenter closed over a decade ago, and since Fry's Electroncs when under, it's just been my local cramped CentralComputer to browse
That turned out great! love the Haiku videos you've been doing
What a lovely little box you made, love seeing nice OSs getting real usage :D
Love your new Haiku build ! That was fun to watch.
it's so trippy to see you at my local Micro Center that's awesome
I love Micro Center. I live in Chicago, about a 30-minute drive from one. (We have two in the Chicago metro area.) As far as I know, it's the last remaining brick-and-mortar computer supermarket chain left standing. We have no shortage of small computer stores in the area, but all of the ones I know of mainly sell parts for gaming enthusiasts. Micro Center, on the other hand, is for everybody. I always get great service there, and it's not unusual for them to beat online prices. It's my favorite toy store!
Very nice. Excellent that you were able to buy everything at Micro Centre
As someone who recently bought an old 2000s workstation at a garage sale for running Haiku, i can sympathize with the excitement of the system unleashed. It kinda sorta runs on a netbook and small form factor notebooks, but its only when its in a desktop PC that it shines.
From the thumbnail i didn't expect this machine to look good for some reason. But it does look really nice! hopefully we will see haiku eventually take advantage of that cpu fully.
Crazy level of compatibility. Well done, Haiku team. Many SBCs come with "supported" operating systems that provide a lot less functionality.
Well done! You’ve almost inspired me to build a modern BeBox!
This was a perfect fit for Micro Center sponsorship! And you are using the case I checked out and want to get (from Micro Center Towson).
*siiiiigh* In the 1/4 of the United States without a single Micro Center in it.
I have 2 within an hour drive of me
Love our local Microcenter (the HQ is here) and I love it for 3d printing stuff, being able to browse.
Love the build, am tempted to try firing Haiku up on my gaming rig for a laugh.
A someone who lives in Canada, that Microcenter sponsor hurts me.
That case is gorgeous.
The Fractal North is such a beautiful case. I kinda want to do a retro build in it now.
Heeeyyyyyy that's my "local" micro center. Great location I wish I had a good reason to get out there more.
That's awesome! I wish we had a Micro Center up here in Maine. The closest on is 110 miles away!
microcenter rocks xd one of the few things i'm envious of you guys in the US for : )
We're getting a Microcenter down here in South Florida as well. A bit of a drive for me as it's down in Miami, but it's great that I have it here.
Proper wooder-cooling.
your next project NEEDS to be making the RGB strips reflect the CPU activity! 😍
The Teapot Lovecraft joke made me snort-laugh. Well played friend, well played...
Love that micro center, great place to visit!
BeBox has revived.
WANT
Wish we had a store like that here!
Very cool System mate!
I live near the Microcenter in Overland Park, KS and visit it all the time! So nice there's still a brick and mortar place like this nearby. I miss Frys and CompUSA.
This just makes me sad we don't have microcenter in Utah
That Microcenter place looks so cool! I wish we'd have stores like this here in Germany.
LOL - I'm used to the Canadian accents on LTT talking about this sort of stuff - was not ready for Wooder Cooler
it's just so funny to me dude, that Sceptre monitor you now use is literally my secondary monitor, the one to my right everyday that I use when I wanna multitask on my PC. wild to see it in a video lmao.
This obsession with Haiku is getting out of hand.. And I'm here for every minute of it!
I'm so jealous of people who live near a Micro Center - we don't have anything like that up in the Pacific Northwest, and I just got the chance to visit a MC the other day when visiting a friend in Boston, and it was like visiting a holy site. I'm begging you MC, open a location in Seattle, there will be SO many nerds throwing money at you constantly if you do!
Nice job Action Modern!
Thanks Micro Centre!
Haiku looks amazing here!
Sponsored video
I didn't know we had a microcenter in PA! I'll be heading over someday now!
Love that case
Love Microcenter. I wish there were more than one in Colorado.
Chuckling at you modern-day BeBOX -- looks cool! 😎
And yah, Micro Center _is_ the best computer store out there right now! I count myself lucky to be only ~10 min away from the Minnesota store. Every computer I've had for the last 20+ years, I either bought it there or bought parts for it there. I even bought two of my phones there, unlocked and refurbished. I don't care if I could've found some of it cheaper online; if Micro Center has what I want, I'll head down there and get it myself, instead of waiting for shipping!
I'm blessed to have a Microcenter in walking distance.
PS - Genuine applause at 10:48
Yeah figured that was the Microcenter at St. Davids. Its like an hour from me :D
The nameplate tied it all together like magic
So excited! The rumor is that they’re building one here in (or near) San Jose, Ca!
So jealous - I wish we had a Microcenter here in Upstate NY
There was (still is?) a livejournal blog of a Haiku enthusiast who turned his old laptop into a Haiku dev station. The twist: he was also a D lang enthusiast. And he wrote several apps for image processing (graphical apps!), like, simulate a small black hole with given parameters and put it in your picture (several years before Nolan, without accretion disks, but using a physically correct GR approximation); or app that helped fix photos with skewed skyline. All written in D lang. Stopped following livejournal long ago, but maybe we should check him up: he might have created Skynet or something, Haiku based and written in D lang, running on some vintage piece of iron.
Gotta love the Jeep Cherokee 0:19
I wish Micro Center would come here to Arizona. Their mobo and CPU combos are so awesome.
I am a fan of this video for no specific reason
Love this. Don't live anywhere near a MicroCenter. However, waiting for your video where you find the most powerful laptop that is 100% Haiku compatible. If MicroCenter sells it, I'll buy it.
Man, Haiku really looks cool! I need to get out one of my old ThinkPads from the basement one of these days and give it a try!
And yes, I miss computer stores! 😭
Don't use ESD bags to build stuff on, the outside of an ESD bag is very conductive. Use the cardboard box or a ESD safe mat. Part of my yearly training at work is to make sure I never use an ESD bag as a ESD safe mat.
Or use the anti static foam from inside the bag.
I live close to the same Micro Center! Love the store - reminicent of CompUSA, Radio Shack and others from 80's and 90's
I'll take every bit of the Micro Center "product placement". I've been to the store in Brooklyn a few times and, as is demonstrated here, I've also always been shocked by the amount of and specificity of the hardware they have on offer. With the exception of big box software, it feels like walking into a CompUSA circa 1997. I'm glad things are going well for them. Hopefully they open a store north of Yonkers at some point!
I miss Fry's, and hope Microcenter will expand to more locations to make it easier to get to one of these.
Hoping and praying MicroCenter opens in Vegas, theres literally an abandoned Frys Electronics they could just move into
Cambridge, MA Micro Center needs a renovation. Used to work there and the roof leaks into the laptop store room, among other problems with the building. Still happy Micro Center is around though.
haha what a fun, thank you for this, i will share your Video at Facebook.. i remember to boot BeOS in my old AMD K5 100 MHz in 15 Seconds, Windows needed more than 1 minute to boot.. this was in 1998..many greetings from brunswick in germany and please stay safe 🙃
In 2000 i had a Website running with Desktop Wallpaper, which i've created for BeOS, great Times back then..
Brick and mortar pc stores are something I've not seen in a while. You're so likely to have Microcenter, I'd love to have them in my country...
Awesome HP Lovecraft reference!!!
Micro Center has yet to grace Washington State with its presence.
We used to have Fry’s Electronics and Microcenter. It was the golden age of commercial computer component consumerism.
This video is soo cool!!
what an absolutely lovely video. i especially liked the front panel rgb lights and how they went together really well with the wood! as well as the badge, how it snapped on was so cool! maybe you could take a pi pico, and hook it up via usb - make it pretend it's a serial port so you can write to it from a terminal; then write a simple script that blasts e.g. core use as a number to it, and have the pi control an addressable rgb strip? how about that?
Microcenter would be even better if there was one anywhere close to me.
Wow! I almost did a spit take when you said you're near the St. Davids Micro Center! (I'm from Berwyn and I go there all the time lol)
I miss Microcenter. I moved from Fairfax several years ago and back to my hometown. They are building one and it’s opening soon.
Thanks for the coupon! Just got back from Micro Center with my new 3D printer. Micro Center was awesome!
heck yeah microcenter rules!
As an actual owner of BeOS, which I bought in the 90's, I think this is awesome. I would use Haiku on my daily driver if I could game on it :) Need Libre office as well.
yes! more year of haiku desktop!
That is a great Micro Center, been there before