SAPHIR RENOVATEUR Review and HOW TO USE: Does it Work?

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024

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  • @HenryHalliday
    @HenryHalliday Před 2 lety +20

    I use this on everything expensive & cheap, cost maybe a dollar to treat a pair of shoes, a pot easy lasts 15-20 pairs. If I consider the shoes good enough to wear then they are good enough to be looked after correctly

  • @bonecollector1968
    @bonecollector1968 Před 3 lety +19

    My boots always lightened back to the original color after about 4 days to a week depending on how much I wore them after the Saphir treatment. They won't stay that dark. Good video👍🏻

  • @Vultain
    @Vultain Před 3 lety +13

    For oil tanned leathers you should use Saphir Medaille Dior Oiled Leather with Neatsfoot oil. It won't change the texture by putting waxes in it. They make it in a neutral if you want to keep your patina. I am of the opinion you should only use Saphir Renovateur on leathers that are waxed and shined like the black calfskin in the video.

  • @LouisWinthorpe622
    @LouisWinthorpe622 Před rokem +3

    All the Saphir Medaille d'Or Renovateur gets shipped to the US or sold in Continental Europe. We can't get it in the UK, without importing it ourselves, at considerable extra expense. All we can get is the, non-Medaille d'Or, cheaper version from Saphir. The main difference, I've read, is it contains less mink oil. It still made a great job of finishing off some burgandy Chromexcel boots that I bought for renovating, after all the videos I've watched.
    They were thirsty and drank up 2 coats of Saphir Greasy Leather Cream, that I gave them, in no time. I thought that was going to darken them a bit and mask the minor slice-scuffs on the toes but they lightened up again the very next day and the slice marks reappeared. They were minor but a tiny bit deep. The Renovateur darkened the boots, slightly (in a good way), but this time the effect remained the next day. It made the little cut scuffs almost completely disappear (masked them really well by darkening the exposed, lighter, leather) and it really made the colour pop! I decided on a good brush-buffing after removing it, after 3 minutes, with a chamois (or you could use a clean cloth), like the instructions tell you to do, before you decide whether you want to buff them to a healthy looking sheen, or not (I wouldn't call it a shine). You can choose to do it after cleaning the Renovateur off, depending on the level of sheen that you want. If you had just stopped after wiping it off, vigorously, with a chammy, microfibre, or old t-shirt, like the instructions say, you wouldn't have had the excessive shine that you had a slight problem with, by skipping that stage and going straight to the brush. You don't actually HAVE to brush them. Although, I chose to.
    I'm pretty sure there's a little emulsified beeswax in it. It's never going to give Chromexcel a mirror-like shine, as you say. It just made my boots look very like another, brand new, pair of Chromexcel boots that I'd recently bought, giving them a 'just out of the box', looking, sheen.
    I was really happy with how they turned out. I sanitised the inside with a couple of doses of rubbing alcohol, too. With new laces, insoles and heel units they've cost me about £95 for boots that were, originally, $295 RRP in the US, back in about 2010.
    Here's some more interesting/ boring stuff because I have time but, obviously, you can sod off and 'TLDR' it, if you want.
    Wolverine have no distribution in the UK and, probably because I am relatively new to this interest/ hobby, my current grail boots are the Cordovan No.8 Wolverine 1000 Mile, seen above. As tax makes them extortionate to order from abroad and they practically never come up on eBay, in my size, I did a kind of thing I've seen on the watch forum that I follow, where there's a thread called 'I like that, so I bought this' where people show the watches they bought because, for whatever reason (usually financial) they weren't able to attain the watch that they really want. So I searched for Chromexcel boots and found something in burgundy, I liked the look of a lot. This is where (I think) it gets interesting.
    I'll cut to the chase and say: they're by Ugg. 'Ha ha', I hear you say but hear me out. They're Goodyear welted and have a label inside that says 'Made In The USA For Ugg'. So they're not ACTUALLY Uggs, other than that they have Ugg stamped on the tongue and were bought, and then sold by, that company.
    They're called Ugg 'Harrisburg' boots and there is very little about them on the Internet but, with a little Google-Fu, I found out that they were made by the Addison Shoe Company in Wynne, Arkansas, which was open from 1953 and made boots, mostly, for military contracts and 'other labels'. Sadly closing in 2007 due to their orders drying up. Presumably, as the military cut costs by sourcing cheaper made boots, elsewhere.
    So now I own, both, Wolverine 1000 Mile, lookalike and made alike, boots AND the most un-Ugglike boots, ever to have been sold under the banner of Ugg. They're looking great and I'm happy with that.
    Cheers if you managed to read this far and you have a great day, too!

  • @gman.10
    @gman.10 Před 19 dny

    Great Video. Thanks for the comparison in order to see the color changes.

  • @waxedearth5425
    @waxedearth5425 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Saphir has a newer product for oil-based leathers like CXL or S.B. Foot. It’s called “Oiled Leather Cream”. It’s neatsfoot oil based like Bick4. It works pretty good and leaves a matte shine

  • @sgeine
    @sgeine Před 8 měsíci +7

    It’s clear he doesn’t understand the purpose of the product and keeps focusing on “shine”. Totally irrelevant byproduct. It’s about reconditioning and rehydrating the leather. Smoothing out the deep creases on the camp to rolling wrinkles. No one who knows anything about shoes would put this on their shoes and say “done”. Also, why work boots? Why keep framing saphir as a “boot” product? Lol

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 Před 2 lety +2

    I have 5 high end boots from RM Williams, Gaziano & Girling, and John Lobb... and I use EXCLUSIVELY Saphir product including Renovateur ... on my one suede boot, I use the Renovateur spray designed for suede.

    • @TunesByTanzil
      @TunesByTanzil Před 2 lety

      Nice line up of boots there, RMs love Renovateur

  • @richp4790
    @richp4790 Před 19 dny

    Great review!

  • @calicuts909
    @calicuts909 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video, I really enjoyed it. Keep up the great content sir.

  • @polanialmoni6274
    @polanialmoni6274 Před 8 měsíci +1

    How long do you put the cream on? Do you brush it later? And how can I make it even more shiny? Do you recommend wax polish?
    I'm. New to boots and want to use this on black smooth leather.

  • @edkes123
    @edkes123 Před 3 lety +1

    $25! It’s still expensive here in the UK but I get it for about $15, makes it a reasonable investment especially for my dressier boots.

  • @mtkreger
    @mtkreger Před 2 lety +3

    Renovateur is my go to. On my Iron Rangers, it does appear to darken after applying, but they lighten back up after wearing. If you don't want the shine, brush minimally, rub the boots with your hands and the shine will tame down.

    • @Ryan-ii9rx
      @Ryan-ii9rx Před rokem

      I ruined my copper rough and toughs by not researching. Red wing recommends the all natural conditioner for it and I went ahead and did it. Darkens it almost to the amber. Pretty annoyed but they still look good, just wish I could get that nice patina in the copper shade. Just tried the renovateur with macadamia oil and didn’t darken it any more than what it already was.

    • @LouisWinthorpe622
      @LouisWinthorpe622 Před rokem

      ​@@Ryan-ii9rx That's great you can ruin something but it still looks good. Truly though, I think I know what you mean. Drastically changed but still pretty ok. Maybe try one of the instructional videos that are out there for fixing overconditioned boots. I can't remember the method but they're out there. It might help you lighten up the top 0.5mm - 1mm deep, visible layer of the leather and help them to look a bit more like you remember them. Or go with a one-of detergent immersion, scrub, thorough rinse, room temperature dry for a couple of days and then neatsfoot oil or Bick 4 which is good for not darkening stuff.

  • @thomasdenmark8031
    @thomasdenmark8031 Před 3 lety +3

    Great review 👍. If you don't want to darken the leather of your shoes/boots, just get the shoecream from Red Wing. I use it on my brown boots/shoes. It's a neutral shoecream with neatsfoot oil. Great product.

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety +1

      I'll have to check that out! Thank you for watching!

    • @remb9614
      @remb9614 Před 3 lety

      Thanks, this was exactly my question. I got new redwings in “copper” and I really don’t want to lose that look. It seems like no matter what color you get they all end up dark brown.

  • @robertchacon3628
    @robertchacon3628 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks, I was wondering what product I could use to prevent leather staining

  • @Faladaena
    @Faladaena Před rokem +1

    Trying it out on a pair of boots that are a little more beaten up would've been a lot more helpful...

  • @Fireheartl
    @Fireheartl Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the info! Just diving into Saphir as a product line so this was some good info. Just started experimenting with the renovateur today. To maintain more of a matte look, I tend to lead towards either Obenauf's Heavy LP, or Huberd's Shoe Grease, depending on how heavy of a gauge the leather is.

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 2 lety +2

      I have a cool video I just shot where I compare 10 of the best conditioners.. saphir is definitely a great choice

  • @sinjinadams2862
    @sinjinadams2862 Před rokem

    Loved the video! Learned a lot!

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před rokem

      So glad it was helpful!

  • @Gollammeister
    @Gollammeister Před rokem +2

    Can u use this on new leather hiking boots and use polish on top afterwards ?

  • @GentlemansJourney
    @GentlemansJourney Před rokem

    Great video Mate!

  • @gnesmond
    @gnesmond Před 3 lety +3

    This may be a stupid question and I'm not a shoe shiner. But could this be applied to leather car seats. I have a family member with an expensive car with really nice leather seats, and I'm not sure if this would be a waste on the seats.

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety

      great question---I'm not entirely sure. I know it would do a good job conditioning the leather, but Saphir also leaves some oily and waxy residue, so it might stain clothes when you sit down on seats. I'd do a quick search to see if there's a specific conditioner that doesn't leave a residue. But I bet you could use this and then just really thoroughly wipe it off about 24 hrs later

    • @allan5721
      @allan5721 Před rokem +2

      I know I’m a bit late to this party, but don’t use it on car seats. Most car seats have a coating on top of the leather to help with wear and damage from UV light. Ford King Ranch trucks are one of the exceptions to this. Check out Colourlock for some great car leather care products.

  • @user-jw8sx1pw6w
    @user-jw8sx1pw6w Před 9 měsíci +1

    Why do you compare price of whole jar of Renovateur to a price of cheep boots?
    You don't use a whole jar, you use small scoop, and that small scoop can really make cheap boots look three times their price. I've used renovator on my cheap bit neglected daily boots and it's just amazing how they look after, definitely worth the price

  • @mofromupside2573
    @mofromupside2573 Před 2 lety +1

    Ppl bought their shoes in that dark color and after years of wearing it they have critic on the conditioner that brings back the color

  • @ravenbom
    @ravenbom Před 8 měsíci

    The Saphir Renovateur BootSpy SHOULD have reviewed is the one that is NOT Mink Oil based.
    The Macadamia Nut version really saves color, something Mink Oil doesn't AND it's actually more sustainable, as the fur industry is dying. (I know the cost difference is pretty high from Mink Oil).

  • @davidcelestino1116
    @davidcelestino1116 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video! Thank you for the comparisons. Quick question, what does Renovateur smell like? I heard it smells like lotion but mine smells more chemical-ish. I got it on Amazon.

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety +5

      I'd say it definitely has a chemical smell. I doubt you got a fake or anything like that. It's not super strong, but it's definitely noticable, and I wouldn't say it's too much like lotion

    • @davidcelestino1116
      @davidcelestino1116 Před 3 lety

      @@BootSpy thank you for the reply n the awesome videos! Subscribed

    • @SashaInTheCloud
      @SashaInTheCloud Před 4 měsíci

      is it the mink or the neatsfoot base?

  • @remb9614
    @remb9614 Před 3 lety

    Just got this stuff for my boots. I got red wings in “copper” and I don’t want to lose the look and darken the leather too much. I’m hopeful this will work.

    • @MrDro1128
      @MrDro1128 Před 3 lety

      How’d it go?

    • @remb9614
      @remb9614 Před 3 lety

      @@MrDro1128 haven’t used it on my iron rangers yet but I did a pair of timberlands and it didn’t change the color at all. Seems like good stuff

    • @MrDro1128
      @MrDro1128 Před 3 lety +1

      @@remb9614 yeah I ended up buying the sapphire napa & saphir leather cream for my 1 month old copper rough & toughs.
      Bear in mind, I wear them everyday in my tire shop.
      The 1 coat of Napa didn’t change them at all, but I ended up putting 3 coats of the leather cream on top & that made it about 1 shade darker..they came out really good & subtle.

    • @remb9614
      @remb9614 Před 3 lety

      @@MrDro1128 I think I’m going to stick with the creamy products because they seem to darken less than the oils

  • @maisajbin2954
    @maisajbin2954 Před 2 lety +1

    Can you make a video comparing the color of the shoes after 2 - 3 weeks using Saphir RENOVATEUR with the original color?

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines Před rokem

    Did the boots return to the normal colour and natural finish? How long did it take? Have you tried redwing leather cream neatsfoot oil?

  • @kit2770
    @kit2770 Před 3 lety +2

    Question: what's the difference between a leather conditioner and a leather cream? (I'm not telling a joke, I'm actually asking)

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety

      As far as I know, there's no difference. I think some brands might have two different products with different effects, but I've always considered leather creams part of the broader spectrum of leather conditioners

    • @TheGlassToe
      @TheGlassToe Před 3 lety +1

      It really depends on the brand. Shoe care companies name their products so they can stand out so "conditioner" and "cream" get tossed around pretty liberally BUT conditioners are supposed to prioritize conditioning and are free of waxes, solvents, and pigments. Creams are where you are supposed to find your waxes, solvents, and pigments. Creams are more of a maintenance product whereas conditioners are for your deep cleaning days (where you sit and strip of old waxes and use soaps like saddle soap that can dry out the leather) or if the leather has been neglected. Creams have just enough conditioner to nourish and just enough waxes to protect. The solvents are to help the waxes and conditioning agents penetrate and also help with a little cleaning. The pigments are to restore any fading colors. Hope that helps.

    • @kit2770
      @kit2770 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheGlassToe Great, thank you ✌

    • @SashaInTheCloud
      @SashaInTheCloud Před 4 měsíci

      To tl;dr the above fantastic explanation for those on a time budget:
      A Leather **Cream** is to hold you over until you basically *shampoo and condition* your leather with your *saddle soap and conditioners*

  • @lapizza7206
    @lapizza7206 Před 3 lety

    I was wondering about this exact thing the other day. Would you test more products from this brand?

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety

      I'm looking at their black shoe polish now! We should have that up shortly

  • @GannerTheKnight
    @GannerTheKnight Před 2 lety

    Used it on my Iron Rangers and it didn't change the color of the boots at all, however, they became a bit shinier, which I didn't want at first but alao didn't mind that much
    Funny that I've been searching the net for a week or so to figure out which conditioner wouldn't change the color of my boot while the renovateur was sitting in a box of Saphir stuff my girlfriend gifted to me last year.
    Anyway, I still went out and bought Red Wing leather cream, protector and cleaner set. Gonna try that out in a few weeks

  • @danielpotter8957
    @danielpotter8957 Před 6 měsíci

    What would you recommend for the iron ranger rough and toughs? Think its nappa leather.

  • @marinko1862
    @marinko1862 Před 3 lety

    I heard conditioning is very important because leather gets dry and it cracks. How much time is needed for that to happen?

  • @daryaazad742
    @daryaazad742 Před 2 lety

    It was perfect job. How about white Luther shoes?! It does work for it ?!

  • @arturodfabela
    @arturodfabela Před 3 lety

    Hi, great video! Btw I just got a pair of boots but there is too much screech on them everytime I move, mostly because the laces are made out of leather too, do you know if putting a conditioner like this on them will help to reduce/eliminate the noise or got any other tip?

  • @musicfashionstyle9269

    As they said on CZcams. Will the saphir renovateur damage the shoes?

  • @stalkerno.3140
    @stalkerno.3140 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey! Can someone please tell me exactly what pair of Iron Rangers that is? They're so sweeeeet!

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 2 lety +1

      They're the 8111 or Amber Harness. They're the most popular Iron Ranger so you should be able to find them pretty easily.

    • @stalkerno.3140
      @stalkerno.3140 Před 2 lety +1

      @@BootSpy Thanks! Would you recommend using Saphir Renovateur on full grain leather jackets? Mine's a Norton Mark 1, brown, and I really want to hydrate the jacket a bit. What is your opinion? The point is, I'm looking for a leather conditioner mainly for my leather jacket, and this conditioner seems to be great for that. Btw, liked and subscribed with notifs turned on! P.S. The boots are legendary!

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 2 lety +1

      @@stalkerno.3140 awesome dude, thank you for that! Saphir would do well, though it may add a bit more shine than you want. I would personally use Venetian leather balm. It's on par with Saphir in terms of conditioning and weather protection (not much, but a little, and definitely better than Lexol or Bick 4), but it doesn't have the shine.

    • @stalkerno.3140
      @stalkerno.3140 Před 2 lety

      @@BootSpy Thank you for the valuable information man, you're a treasure trove of good info, great channel!

  • @ya-silly-goose623
    @ya-silly-goose623 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Just a heads-up: none of your before and after ogotos are actually before and after. Thay are left and right. I would have much rather seen the same shoe's before and after

  • @lyradelacruz3292
    @lyradelacruz3292 Před 3 lety +1

    I never seen a video using this product on a white leather shoe/boots. Is this not allowed to use on white leather?

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety +2

      You can definitely use this on white leather! It's funny, I was going to also test it on my wife's white boot but I decided not too... now I wish I did! Thank you so much for watching---I really appreciate it.

  • @jenrockxoxo
    @jenrockxoxo Před 8 měsíci

    Is Crème Rénovatrice the same thing?

  • @natewilder1868
    @natewilder1868 Před 3 lety

    Just recently picked up some captians, Arizona Adobe, what would you suggest for that texture? The other product you mentioned?

    • @LH_Vagrant
      @LH_Vagrant Před 3 lety +1

      Thursday themselves don't recommend anything other than the occasional cleaning. That said, I own that exact pair myself and plan to try a neutral Saphir Rénovateur Suède spray (for science). I can tell you from experience that you should never use a mink oil cream product on them, as it'll turn them to an even chocolate brown colour.

  • @SteveMuller1976
    @SteveMuller1976 Před 3 lety

    Do you recommend these for use on Common Projects Achilles Sneakers or will it make the leather to shiny?

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety +1

      I think this would work well on Common Projects. I don't think the shine will show through too much on white (assuming you have white). Either way, the shine only lasts a bit

    • @SteveMuller1976
      @SteveMuller1976 Před 3 lety

      @@BootSpy , thanks for replying. I have 4 pairs of them including the all whites. I will give it a go 👍

    • @trash3
      @trash3 Před 3 lety +1

      not sure if you already try the Renovateur... but for the CPs Saphir Nappa Balm is much better option since it doesn't contain any waxes.

    • @SteveMuller1976
      @SteveMuller1976 Před 3 lety

      @@trash3 thanks for the tip. Already bought the renovator but will give this one a try as well.. cheers

  • @vin7281
    @vin7281 Před rokem

    What do u mean by buff it out?

  • @garoristic
    @garoristic Před rokem

    Did your boots return to the original color

  • @brgulker
    @brgulker Před 3 lety

    Red Wing Leather Cream is amazing for SB Foot tannages.

    • @agubser07
      @agubser07 Před 3 lety

      I would add Saphir Oiled Leather cream to this as well. That is the product that is specifically designed for oil tanned leather (does not have wax, at least for the beaute du cuir version).

  • @billystpaul8907
    @billystpaul8907 Před 3 lety +1

    Good review. Saphir is wonderful stuff. High quality, but way over priced. Bick 4 and Venetian Shoe Cream are the best.

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety

      I agree--I would probably use Venetian, but I'm glad I tried it out. And I think it has its place. I'll use Saphir over Venetian for my Chromexcel (at least while I have it on hand...that said, I likely won't buy it again)

    • @user-jw8sx1pw6w
      @user-jw8sx1pw6w Před 9 měsíci

      In Europe Renovatour is not that expensive, I've got a 50ml jar for 12 bucks, which is comparable to Venetian, as i can see.

  • @vdubnotch4810
    @vdubnotch4810 Před 3 lety +1

    Great vid. Hopefully I'm not being too picky, but can you pronounce it the French way instead of the English way lol. Thanks for the vid 👍👍

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety +1

      I've got French heritage and they'd be ashamed of me for my pronunciation. I'll pronounce it in French here to make it up to you: Renovateur. Thank you so much for watching!! I really appreciate it!

  • @avalanche9142
    @avalanche9142 Před 2 lety

    What is the difference with Pate de Luxe?

    • @Michael-ru2vo
      @Michael-ru2vo Před 7 měsíci

      Different functions. Pate de Luxe meant to shine and add color to the shoes. Reno is more to moisturize.

    • @avalanche9142
      @avalanche9142 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Michael-ru2vo thanks!

  • @renji32100
    @renji32100 Před 3 lety +1

    I like pure polish way more, it penetrates leather way more and it's cheaper than saphir

  • @I-P-777
    @I-P-777 Před 11 měsíci

    U can see from the Edge/sole of the shoe. Those before and after pics are not at the same shoe man sorry.

  • @scottwallace1
    @scottwallace1 Před 3 lety +1

    So, this is going to be THEE most pretentious sounding comment ever, but....it’s pronounced REN-UH-VUH-TORE. It’s not me. They’re French!!!

    • @BootSpy
      @BootSpy  Před 3 lety +2

      I debated whether to go with the French pronunciation or not... Ultimately I felt it'd make me look like an idiot, so I skipped it. I'll take some Rosetta Stone classes and update this review when my french is tres bon.

  • @ELEVOPR
    @ELEVOPR Před 3 lety +1

    Saphir is seriously over priced. I mean outrageously over priced when compared to how much $$$ per ounce your paying. It's not going to preform 10xs better just because it costs 10xs more 🤦🏼‍♂️
    Have you Ever Tried Black Rock Leather N Rich? Not sure if it darkens the boot any. I've only used it on Black Boots. But it does apply really nicely and leaves boots feeling soft and supple.