@@PeteR-ji8ik we will start adding two hands on a club and then change angles, directions, etc. You want that retracting and extending torsion arm but with two arms you won’t really see it. Rather than just swinging an arm or arms. The pitching example is different than what people show as an underarm throw. And torsion beats a weak arm ‘swing’ or a windmill action.
@@PeteR-ji8ik mine is. I have degenerative spine going on and losing my right (lead) side. Many my right side muscles are gone, or in the process of being gone. So it better be trail side for me. Until those go, then I need to figure out a No Sided Swing.
.. here is Martin Ayers showing various counter balancing motions like hammer throw, looks like the Min Woo Lee example czcams.com/video/dzxqbziC7o0/video.htmlsi=ub7yia9YiY_L73fy Martin found it very hard to explain himself as well, it’s a difficult thing to convey obviously. When I try these moves transition feels like the club acts like a helicopter blade above my head and drops down behind me. The torsion move in this video with the can is Martin Ayers claw move, there’s no doubt about it in my mind. Martin doesn’t show how to unfurl it though. Here is Martin demonstrating the furling of the torsion arm czcams.com/video/hdE1Ga1En1Q/video.htmlsi=0c7SonCqlj16patk
@@cdunne1620 the slight difference in MW Lee is complying to the line in place as much as possible where the hammer throw is more around you. Yes, both will have that helicopter feel and both work and using that is based on you and what you like to do. It’s best to experiment with that ‘line in space’
It looks like him, if you look at be better golf when he is trying to explain and his latest stuff on his page. But i don't know i am just a guesser 😂. Wish i could visit and sit for ours and discuss the golfswing so I finally know what i what to do. Mayby in my next life..😂
@@garre71 I’ll have to take a look. I am using the full 14, when that extends you’ll notice the degrees of freedom shrink. There is no twirl and dump, etc. maybe Martin changed things. Not sure. I can map his swing and tell you exactly what he’s doing now, if it’s changed or not.
@@vincentvela3774 you could take it back that way if you want. I think he went inward to his side, if I remember right. All I’m doing here is showing ONE line. There are many more…we have a geometry and our surroundings have a geometry.
@@DennyForrest-pk4khAgree, but need to see two hands on the golfclub. Do he take the club inside and then ott or does he go just up an club falls on the inside. I am standing infront of a mirror and try a lot of things here..😅
@@garre71 take it where you want. Did you notice the can drew a line? I carry that line when pitching. With two hands you can work that line and watch your swing turn into Matthew Wolff. Matthew’s swing went south because he drifts, easy fix. But I will get into it more. Remember this- we have a geometry and so does our surroundings.
@@frozendivots1564This is so interesting and sick at the same time. I think i seen a man in Sweden teach this like 20 years ago. He wrote an article in the Swedish Golfdigest. And he was invited to a siminar to talk about this ,were all the golfteachers where invited. But he got pissed when Lynn Blake (the golfing machine)from US was invited to and was payed trippel as much. So then he did not show up and then he dispeared from golf. Went to see him but I was to to new to the game to grab what he suggested
Thanks FD. That makes a lot of sense :)
@@PeteR-ji8ik we will start adding two hands on a club and then change angles, directions, etc. You want that retracting and extending torsion arm but with two arms you won’t really see it. Rather than just swinging an arm or arms.
The pitching example is different than what people show as an underarm throw. And torsion beats a weak arm ‘swing’ or a windmill action.
@@frozendivots1564 Looking forward to seeing that :) Is the trail hand dominant thruout the entire motion or?
@@PeteR-ji8ik mine is. I have degenerative spine going on and losing my right (lead) side. Many my right side muscles are gone, or in the process of being gone. So it better be trail side for me. Until those go, then I need to figure out a No Sided Swing.
@@frozendivots1564 Oh, sorry to hear that.
.. here is Martin Ayers showing various counter balancing motions like hammer throw, looks like the Min Woo Lee example
czcams.com/video/dzxqbziC7o0/video.htmlsi=ub7yia9YiY_L73fy
Martin found it very hard to explain himself as well, it’s a difficult thing to convey obviously.
When I try these moves transition feels like the club acts like a helicopter blade above my head and drops down behind me.
The torsion move in this video with the can is Martin Ayers claw move, there’s no doubt about it in my mind. Martin doesn’t show how to unfurl it though. Here is Martin demonstrating the furling of the torsion arm
czcams.com/video/hdE1Ga1En1Q/video.htmlsi=0c7SonCqlj16patk
@@cdunne1620 the slight difference in MW Lee is complying to the line in place as much as possible where the hammer throw is more around you.
Yes, both will have that helicopter feel and both work and using that is based on you and what you like to do.
It’s best to experiment with that ‘line in space’
Thanks! 😃 I think Martin Ayers do a similar move?
@@garre71 not sure what he does now. I know his older stuff and it isn’t like this. You’ll see.
It looks like him, if you look at be better golf when he is trying to explain and his latest stuff on his page. But i don't know i am just a guesser 😂. Wish i could visit and sit for ours and discuss the golfswing so I finally know what i what to do. Mayby in my next life..😂
@@garre71 I’ll have to take a look. I am using the full 14, when that extends you’ll notice the degrees of freedom shrink. There is no twirl and dump, etc. maybe Martin changed things. Not sure.
I can map his swing and tell you exactly what he’s doing now, if it’s changed or not.
@@frozendivots1564 It looks somewhat similar to Martin's "Most Powerful Move in Golf" of a few years ago.
@@vincentvela3774 you could take it back that way if you want. I think he went inward to his side, if I remember right.
All I’m doing here is showing ONE line. There are many more…we have a geometry and our surroundings have a geometry.
Full backswing, please ... Address through contact! ⛳🏌
It’s better without to see what is supposed to be seen.
@@DennyForrest-pk4khAgree, but need to see two hands on the golfclub. Do he take the club inside and then ott or does he go just up an club falls on the inside. I am standing infront of a mirror and try a lot of things here..😅
@@garre71 take it where you want. Did you notice the can drew a line? I carry that line when pitching. With two hands you can work that line and watch your swing turn into Matthew Wolff. Matthew’s swing went south because he drifts, easy fix.
But I will get into it more. Remember this- we have a geometry and so does our surroundings.
@@garre71 watch this- he’s going right up in front of himself-
m.czcams.com/users/shorts4B_5dwNwE04
@@frozendivots1564This is so interesting and sick at the same time. I think i seen a man in Sweden teach this like 20 years ago. He wrote an article in the Swedish Golfdigest. And he was invited to a siminar to talk about this ,were all the golfteachers where invited. But he got pissed when Lynn Blake (the golfing machine)from US was invited to and was payed trippel as much. So then he did not show up and then he dispeared from golf. Went to see him but I was to to new to the game to grab what he suggested