If it Bleeds, it Leads! - The Crimean War - European History - Part 2 - Extra History
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The Russians are on the attack trying to take over the black sea but this battle has a new front to defend. The ruthless views and sway of the media, as newspapers mock British commanders and drum up nationalistic fervor.
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Fun fact, the Pickelhaube made its debut around this time. But it wasn't by the Prussians, it was an early prototype created by the Russians.
So... it was... P-Russians, with P for Pickelhaube?
Ok, I'll see myself out...
the Crimean war was photographed, and the pictures from it are amazing as well as horrifying
Was it the first war to be photographed?
@@ASpaceOstrich Yes, at the time of opening of hostilities, the American civil war wouldn't begin for another seven years.
That's war for you.
@@ASpaceOstrichActually, as of recently, it's the second war to be photographed. Apparently someone had discovered recreational photos of an American medic from the Mexican American war which, while of poor quality, still give us glimpses of the event. So fun fact.
The British campaign up and down the Finnish coast was mostly a huge success, but there was one place where they were repulsed: not a fortress, but the tiny village of Kokkola. There, local seal hunters ambushed a british landing party, driving the brits off and capturing a landing craft. The boat was kept as a trophy and it can still be seen in the centre of Kokkola.
You can mess with us Finns who are from Southern Finland but please do not mess with the Ostrobothnian Finns from the Kokkola region because they are the traditional knife-wielding Finns.
That is a very cool nugget, cheers!
Impressive
Imagine you are landing, and you see, not a russian with a rife but a finn with a knive charging at you. What do you do? You either shoot or retreat.
@@history-jovian And thank god your pants are already wet!
You could make the argument that British press hasn’t changed much since then
I recently went to London from America, and I’m not gonna pretend where I’m from is any better about its media, but some of the headlines I saw just walking around the street were…a lot.
bwahahahaha excellent take m8
@@Earthpeak we are both know for being impressively wrong on stuff
or you could make the argument that russian imperialism hasn't changed much since then, were they really wrong?
The Crimean War was the origin story for some pretty cool people. Charles Gordon, Leo Tolstoy, etc.
Yep. Ultimately fairly inconsequential in terms of geopolitics (aside from some foreshadowing of WW1), but it definitely left an impression. Because it was the most public and publicized war ever until that point it changed the way millions thought about it. Suddenly both the horror and the terrible majesty of industrial war were at the forefront of everyone's thoughts.
Ah yes, Leo Tolstoy, the insane misogynist who abused his wife in a cult he ran in some forest. Really "cool". I liked the part in his book where he describes russian soldiers shitting in a fountain after pillaging a Chechen village, so glorious, much russian, very culture, wow!
Mary seacole! ^-^
@@agustincorales4786 yes, but that is not the start, and is in fact closed to the end…
Florence Nightingale ^^
I honestly never thought I’d see Clifford the big red dog in a video about the Crimean war
A weird red dog instead of a Russian bear, thanks for the name!
Fun fact - the very first Victoria Cross (Britain's highest award for bravery in the field) was awarded for actions in the Baltic Sea campaign, in the by now little-known Battle of Bomarsund
The legend of the Victoria Cross is that the medals were made from cannon captured at the Siege of Sevastopol.*
*some recent research has suggested this may not be the case
Yep. The battle of Bomarsund was fought at the Åland archipelago which belongs to the modern day Finland as a demilitarized zone.
There was actually three victoria crosses awarded for bravery during the battel aganist a incomplete fortress (Bomarsund) with guns outranged by british naval artillery
I believe Queen Victoria said that all her soldiers were brave. The Victoria Cross will be awarded for valor.
I honestly never thought about there being ANY battles in the Baltic-which really is crazy to think about
Here in Finland Batlic campaing was called Åland War, because the allies' navy bombared many fortresses, including Åland fortress. As a result of war Åland became a demilitarized area until these days.
During this campaign British forces attacks to city of Oulu and burn tar barrels which were already sold to British shipping industry. And few other places in The back sea.
When a campaign is so successful, it didn't result in any victories because it didn't have any battles.
Yeb it was quite the European war, also I know you from somewhere….. yeeeee that’s right, I know you from sw… AAAAAAAAAAH
*"Most people don't remember the Baltic theater of the Crimean War"*
Meanwhile a literal whole continent away: _Sad siege of Petropavlosk-Kamchatsky noises_
The Crimean war really inspired a lot of art and media thats lead through to today hasnt it
I don't get this war and I have read the entire wikipedia article and I still don't get it
Why was Europe so scared of Russia at the time ? To the point of working with the Ottomans. The Ottomans at this time still Attacked European ships including those of England and France. I just don't get why they were scared that Russia might start attacking their ships in the Mediterranean when the ottomans straight up were.
Also I don't buy the religious angle. England was really secular and didn't care about the Catholic Orthodox split. France was still militantly secular and had just got done with the French revolutions where they destroyed Christian holy sites in France. They didn't even care about their own holy sites I don't buy that they would care about holy sites in the middle east.
Also why were the Turks so weak ? I see people say that "ottoman decline is a myth" well if that is the case why did they just do whatever Europeans wanted in hopes of Aid. This war started because the Ottomans refused to say no. Do you think Mehmet or Suleiman would have ever said yes to European demands ?
@@doomdimensiondweller5627 During the 18th century Britain was concerned about Russian conquests in central Asia, focusing on their control of India, while Russia was concerned that Britain would expand further into central Asia... This confrontation was known as "The Great Game". It's likely that this war came about due to these factors.
@@macgonzo Ok but wouldn't letting Russia go after the Ottomans distract them from India.
Yeah, like “The Trooper” by Iron Maiden, inspired by The Charge of the Light Brigade! 😎
@@doomdimensiondweller5627NO
As a direct descendant of an English survivor of the Charge of the Light Brigade, I'm loving this deep dive into the history of its most famous action. Thanks EH!
It's fascinating that a misdirected minor cavalry manouver can become so famous because of a poem!
As a descendant of Earl Cardigan... Sorry.
@@Blairington it happens brother. Dulce est Decorum est a motherfucker
@@Mikebumpful and a song
"...The free press, which revealed itself as a far more potent weapon than the explosive shells at Sinop." That's so true it hurts.
Right as I was reading this it played XD
Really?
@@nathanseper8738 yes
@@theEWDSDS cool.
describing the free press as a weapon is misleading, it's more of a rabid dog, it will do anything to make money and most importantly follow that principle "if it bleeds it leads". Today some of the worst excesses of a free press are naturally controlled by the fact that a constantly lying and exaggerating press outlet will lose reputation, but that isn't always the case if the audience doesn't care about things like "factuality" or "being unbiased" and just wants to read stuff that already lines up with their ideas and beliefs
During the Crimean War, Florence Nightingale and her team of nurses cleaned up the military hospitals and set up the first training school for nurses in the United Kingdom.
Crimean war is so underrated for it's importance. Thanks for doing this series!
Absolutly! Our Patreons are great at getting these topics to the table!
The Taiping Rebellion was the greatest conflict of the 19th century. The carnage probably exceeded all the other wars combined. But it's not talked about much here in the West. You should do a series about it one of these days.
And then when they'd managed to conquer The Imperial Army and set up their own capital, they turned on each other and the whole thing came crashing down. It really is one of the most bizarre, as well as one of the bloodiest, conflicts in history. And that's not even getting into the insane (literally) way in which it began.
All because a college reject thought he was Jesus’ brother
@@WaterShowsProd They didn''t conquer the Imperial Capital(I think that's what you meant), they captured the secondary capital of Nanjing, not the actual capital of Beiping/Beijing/Peking depending on the translation.
@@KaiHung-wv3ul That's right. Nanjing was the administrative capital for The Southern Region, wasn't it?
Ottoman empire: yey we won the war. BFF right
France and UK: Yes. Now give us Egypt, Tunis and Cyprus thanks
It doesn't matter what matter is the safety of Anatolia and our sacred and holy capital KONSTANTINE by the way TURKS did return in cyprus 🇹🇷☪️❤️💪☝️
@@islammehmeov2334 the thing that matters is that anatolia and Constantine must be ruled by byzantines again and I would rather see cyprus greek territory that Turkish.
@@novo121 but instead it is TURKIS 🇹🇷☪️❤️💪☝️🔪☦️✝️🖕😛
it's a small nitpick, but Cathedral of Savior on Blood chosen to represent Saint Petersburg on the map was built on the place of assassination of tsar Alexander the second, tsar Nicholas's successor, in 1880s-90s, so around 30-40 years after the events described here.
This better come up in Lies. smh
5:33 history repeating itself (give-or-take the press's role) with the Roman public's displeasure and frustration with the Fabian tactics used to wear down Hannibal, rather than rushing into a decisive battle
In the end they got the fucker
Fabian tactics isn't sexy, and frankly I understand why they don't like it. The central tenet of Fabian tactics is to preserve as much strength they have while making the enemy spend theirs, meaning they have to give up land and people to do so and try to outlast the enemy. It all means one thing: prolonging the war. Both sides don't like a long war because it makes occupation dangerous for the invaders and it taxes the unoccupied resources of the invaded, all the while fomenting war weariness within the populace of both camps...
Yet these seem to be the tactics used most often as the high political leaders who started the conflict in the first place profit heavily off of a long and protracted war that ultimately costs countless lives and causes horrific devastation because why talk when you can exploit your populace to settle your disagreements for you…? 🙄😐😬
I always thought that it was weird that this war had only being fought on such a reduced area as crimea. Turns out I was wrong.
There are a number of shore batteries in Oz that were built because of this war
Seeing the story being simplified is amazing to hear. I hope that you could tell them some of the history in the Philippines, especially during the Spanish era or during the Philippine American War
I see you using blue and yellow as a way to distinguish the french and britsh. Reminds me of another fight against the Russians
Yeah the war with Sweden!
can't wait for the cavalry charge at Balaclava
As recounted by C. Aubrey Smith in The Four Feathers, using walnuts and a glass of wine? 😄
It's great you mentioned War and Peace. I recently finished reading it.
Tolstoy was a master of storytelling.
One of the top(if no the top) history channel out there. Keep up the awesome work!
This and oversimlplified are my top 2
Thank you!
Ok guys, let's have a more civil conversation than last time and set some ground rules
-Must take place on at least 5/7 continents
-Greatly Influence the world
: What was the REAL first world war?
Toledo War
Ww1 didn't take place in 5 continents, there was no fighting in South america, so by your definition one of the world wars doesn't count.
Btw it's the seven years war, or the league war.
@@eduardopupucon There was a naval battle near The Falkland islands, so if you count battles on the waters near the continents, then there was in fact fighting in South America
Austrian war of Succession
The seven years war from 1756-1763.
Fought on 5 continents such as North America, South America, Asia, Europe and Africa, included powers such as: France, Great Britain, Spain, Portugal, Russia, Austria, Prussia, Mughal Empire, Sweden, Denmark-Norway, an almost all the Native American tribes inhabiting wastern part of Canada, etc.
It would have a profound impact in provoking future events such as the American Revolution as well as the French one, and it marked the overseas supremacy of Great Britain and also helped the ascendance of Catherine the Great in Russia.
So forget wht we are told that we underwent two world wars, the Seven Years War had just as long lasting aftermath as the ''supposed'' WW2.
Britain and France: this kind of imperialist aggression will not be tolerated!
Also Britain and France: when it gets in the way of our imperialist aggression!
Considering how the baltic front won the war (and being from that region) I wish that this series has atleast one episode dedicated to it.
2:08 I know this is tiny, but it’s driving me crazy that they used a balance wrong instead of having columns
Autocrats failing to predict the actions of leaders who actually try not to be autocrats and thus miscalculating seems to be a recurring theme.
I love how Tolstoy served in Crimea and learned only wrong lessons/got off on other people dying, while Dostoevsky was imprisoned for fighting for the people and learned more truth than Tolstoy ever new. Maybe I'm biased, but of the great Russian authors, I think I least enjoyed Tolstoy, he seemed entirely a part of the elite, which he literally was. Maybe this is too harsh, but I didn't say he was a terrible artist, I more said that his art taught wrong things.
"And the Åland War was horrible, hooray hooray hooray, when with 300 ships did the Englishman sail to the Finnish shores~"
I wonder if this series will touch on Åland War because I remember singing about that war when I was a kid at school.
I don't think my World History class back in high school mentioned anything about the Baltic campaign when we covered this war.
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but the scales after @2:00 are backwards. An agreement favoring Russia would be weighted toward Russia. An agreement favoring the Ottomans would be weighted toward the Ottomans.
i didn't think *free* press could influence public war opinion that much
man i needed to know that
To add my own piece to this show, I think next episode onwards, if the naval actions off crimea are mentioned, I will have something to add. While down in Wales I found in an antique shop a 1896 print memoir of a british captain. He told of his experience in 1854 and how he revisited the peninsula in 1894, comparing the two visits. It a short book, but a sobering read.
Love your videos guys! They always make my day!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
2:03-2:11 isn’t the balance backwards. The side with more power should be heavier and be lower not higher
This dude really knows how to advertise. Like this is the type of advertising that I’m okay with listening to and acknowledging. Not to mention the fact he puts it at the end of the video so you don’t have to skip over it to keep watching.
Out of curiosity, i noticed a bit of a lack about the Kingdom of Sardinia participation in the war. I know that it comes later, but seeing the heavy baggage of political machinations behind it, a mention could be useful to set up the intervention itself. It was fundamental in bringing Italy to unification and show a ideological side to the process that was brough first hand on the international theater.
And you are Italian
They might mention it later! only episode 2 and its only the 1st part of the war
Especially since this is told chronologically, The Silistria campaign happened in 1854 and Sardinia Piedmont didn’t join/deploy troops till 1855. Just be patient and understand this is following a chronological series of events of the Crimean War, not jumping around and talking about highlights and their impacts
@@connor4955 i understand it, maybe i feel odd about it because, for me, the crimean war was a part of a bigger and more convoluted system of political machinations and international moves so to unify italy. In the scope of the Crimean war, despite the """heroisms""" of the Sardinians regiments involved, our participation must have come out of left field, from an international point of view.
@@giacomoromano8842 please notice the irony, is the Crimean war the thing that's "part of a bigger system" of machinations? I know that that's how they teach it to us in middle school, but it speaks more to how provincial and self centered our school system teachings are than to the actual history...
Also in the Turkish litelature one of our first modern theatre play was called homeland or silistre
it's really just heartbreaking that this account doesn't have official captions, I'm deaf but I love animated history videos and auto generated captions are very inaccurate at times.
We are certainly working on it!
Loooove the colors of the British & French fleets.
ironic that the man who wrote the best book to use as a projectile was an artillery man
The war profoundly changed him. He wrote about what he saw in Sevastopol Sketches
Important to note that the Russians didn't invent the sea mine - there had been mines since ancient China, and they'd been used by the British since the 17th century, and extensively for over most of a century at this point. But the Russian Jacobi did invent a new kind of 'Jacobi mine', which this was
We want a video about the Greek revolution!
Not letting the ship sink was next level awesome
"conspiracy" theories about dominating europe"
"conspiracy theories"
UH... EH, I had no idea you were like this.
I'm glad I have internet on the vacation again
It was in the Crimean War that the first Victoria Crosses were awarded.
I disagree with the notion that this war was World War Zero. That honor belongs to the Seven Years' War. It was a century earlier, and also had action in North America (where the war actually started), whereas the only war happening on that continent in the 1850s was the completely disconnected Mexican-American War.
I can’t wait for the charge of the light brigade
Great job on the art in this one
Fascinating so far.
Excellent episode
I'm so glad that the man that influenced Ghandi and MLKJR is getting some time to shine.
This episode has a lot of similarities with the first World War during the opening stages.
makes you also realize that a lot of the stuff going on in Ukraine today sounds very similar to the Crimean War, and in turn, WW1.
Incredible video as always! You are the best!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
Thank you so much 😀
@@extrahistory Always guys! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Let’s go a new video of extra history
Guns and canons have fired.
Oh boy…get ready for a wild war.
It's so weird to see a free press criticize a sucessfull and blodless campaign whilst praizing a long and blody one.
The time when war was seen as something glorious and there needed to be battles with a lot of blood so that the winners could have their triumph.
Remember from the beginning of the American Civil War where spectators gathered to watch the battle? That kind of crazy stuff.
it's not weird at all once you understand the hatred the people in charge of the press in the UK had for Russians
@@Dreamfox-df6bg how is it crazy when I browse Spook boys before going to sleep to calm down? People put deaths to music and upload them on TikTok.
It took until WW1 to fully rub away the shine that is "glory in war" from the popular imagination...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 Fully? I disagree. I would say that it mostly removed the shine of it. Even then I do believe WWII reversed it partially.
Awesome editing
When Ahmed Ziad Turk is not listed at the end of an episode
(Darts Vader meme)
“Is Ahmed safe?”
I love how you brought up that the less bloody tactics are largely ignored even if they did more to end the war.
8:21 can't wait for the next episode!!!!!!
Loved that "Yeah".
Thanks
Are you going to talk about the Circassians?
Upvote this. Their entire story answers the question of "why people hate russians" rather well.
no one ever talks about the Circassians in anything, sadly.
ope, came to the last video in this series that youtube algorithm brought me to. Time to completely forget extra history even exists by the time the next video comes. Later guys.
Me, a FGO fan, waiting for Florence Nightingale's contributions to get mentioned.
As an effective administrator? Might be a bit boring to hear about.
I like the video.Can you talk about the Balkan war of 1912-1913 plzzz
0:44
This guy's face is the definition of _horrified_ 💀
I'm currently reading one of Tolstoy's books
6:40 funniest part of the whole entire conflict
Please make longer history episodes😅
I have a strange feeling, as if I've seen this episode several days ago, on some other website
It's wild to think that sometimes we call explosions fireworks and sometimes we call them bombs. Obviously theirs a different design, but think about how fireworks sometimes hurt people on accident, and bombs sometimes miss and just look pretty on accident. What a wild world we live in that a steel tube of gunpowder exploding in front of you is a relative experience.
Fun Fact: you could argue the the first world war was the nine year's war, and counting every global war between the European great powers since then as a world war, I think there would be nore than 10 world wars!
It’s not a world war unless Germany attacks! 🇩🇪
According to Wikipedia, these are considered the “World Wars”
1. Nine Years' War (1689 - 1697)
2. War of the Spanish Succession (1701 - 1715)
3. War of the Austrian Succession (1740 - 1748)
4. Seven Years' War (1756 - 1763)
5. American Revolutionary War (1775 - 1783)
6. French Revolutionary Wars (1792 - 1802)
7. Napoleonic Wars (1803 - 1815)
8. World War I (1914 - 1918)
9. World War II (1939 - 1945)
10. Cold War (1947 - 1991)
11. War on Terror (2001 - 2021)
This channel should make series on it since it seems almost completely forgotten.
I hope we get a full rendition of the charge of the light brigrade in this series.
He mentioned the battle of the alma at the end. There no way he can’t talk about the charge of the heavy brigade followed by the disastrous charge of the light brigade.
Love your content 😄
Thank you!
@@extrahistory you're welcome :)
DO A SERIES ON 1857 REVOLT PLEASE
2:01 the scale is the opposite of how it’s suppose to be😅
8:47 I was in 8th grade this year and all i did was watch your videos and some other channels videos and my classmates thought i was some history expert so thank you 😄
Keep up the good work!
@@extrahistory i definitely will 🤣
Good time rewatch the Mary Seacole series
Amazing
4:20
*sees color of arrow
I see what you did there.
extra history actually covers history unlike... the history channel
This will be a hot take. I believe if it was just Russia vs the Ottomans Russia would have won. I see people say otherwise but they can't argue why.
The OTTOMAN EMPIRE literally wes military and economy weak then gone were the days of MEHMET THE CONQUEROR SELIM THE GRIM AND SULIMAN THE MAGNIFICENT but still russia will alliances it self with great britain and france and they will still feel to conqueror and destroy the OTTOMAN TURKS
The russians definitely would have destroyed the ottomans
Name one war in history which russia won without being supported by England and/or USA.
@@KasumiRINA one-The first Russo-Turkish War (1568-1570) occurred after the conquest of Kazan and Astrakhan by the Russian Tsar Ivan the Terrible. The Ottoman Sultan Selim II tried to squeeze the Russians out of the lower Volga by sending a military expedition to Astrakhan in 1569. The Turkish expedition ended in disaster for the Ottoman army, which could not take Astrakhan and almost completely perished in the steppes, while the Ottoman fleet was wrecked in the Sea of Azov
@@KasumiRINA Battle of Kulikovo
That is a very anglospheric view of Russian history.
I love how you use Blue and Yellow to Britain and France
I hope u will cover the new military technologies and the fact that is called a first modern war
Admiral sir George cocksburn a hero
I saw the "T" on Tolstoy and thought of Tchaikovsky's love of explosive percussion
i like how Austrians and ottomans were fighting each other for century's but now they are working together stopping Russian army ironic
👁️👄👁️
Don't forget they were alleys in ww1 too
Austria is literally the only country in Europe that doesn't support Ukraine, as their former leader (not that one) danced with putin at her wedding, among other things... Turkey is leading sanction-avoiding hub now with almost ALL flights and sales to russia going through it, DESPITE it being in NATO. But yes, they do help Ukraine a lot, Baykar specifically but help in general. Ukrainians also sent help to earthquake victims in return.
Funnily enough, despite Ukrainians helping everyone all the time, even when we're full of russia-shaped problems ourselves, when russians blew up the dam there was NO international help, Only singular volunteers. UN, Unicef, Red Cross, PETA, and IAEA are all upholding russian narrative that it was "nature" the rigged powerplant with explosives, mined the nuclear power plant, and is firing artillery from it into the town across the shore.
I mean, France and Britain did pretty much the same thing against Germany ^^
Since the end of the middle-ages, France and England fought pretty much everytime they could (War of Hundred Years ^^), and were opposites asides of very short-lived peace treaties, it got even worse with Napoléon, and even after the brief alliance in the Crimean War, they continued to rival for colonies.... then they both saw the rise of Germany and decided to reach ana greement, that was sealed in blood during WWI XD
@@KasumiRINA Austria sent 10 000 helmets, bulletproof vests and 100 000 liters of gas to Ukraine, officially as a humanitarian help.
Hungary sent nothing. I think the european country which don't support Ukraine is rather Hungary XD
Well, of course there's also Belarus but it's basically a russian puppet ^^
I see what you did there having the British and French represented as Yellow and Blue
I wonder if they will mention the Battle of Suomenlinna.
Ja se Åålannin sota oli kauhea!
Hvala.
❤❤❤
And War continued on
hearing the words joint austrian ottoman force is fucking insane
Russian soldier on the front line: F***ing Tolstoy.
It feels eather coomon in history that tatically important battles and flashy generals are remembered far better that strategical and clever generals
This cavalier attitude of manuveres and individual heroics is in reality less important than logistics and coherent strategy
Reminds me of the time I puppeted Sardinia-Piedmont as France in Victoria 3. You take over a small European state as France when the Napoleonic Wars are easily within living memory and everyone hates you for some reason!