Anti Big Tech Companies Are Already Failing

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  • čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
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    Over the past several years, we’ve seen a new segment within the tech industry thriving: the anti-big tech industry. The main purpose of most of these companies is to fix the mistakes of juggernauts like Google and Facebook. For example, ProtonMail doesn’t collect any personal data or browse through your emails. Similarly, Signal is an end-to-end encrypted messaging service that’s meant to take on WhatsApp. But, while these apps have seen a strong start, it doesn’t appear that they will be able to take on offerings from big tech companies. One of the main reasons for this is that most people simply switch to these apps due to some external event whether it be an Elon Musk tweet or a monumental event like the GameStop short squeeze. But, as these events become a memory of the past, people tend to shift back to big tech offerings. Another massive challenge holding back these anti-big tech companies is that it’s extraordinarily hard for them to make money while eliminating all of the profitable aspects of big tech. This video explains why anti-big tech companies like BeReal are already losing substantial portions of their user base and are failing.
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Komentáře • 621

  • @InventorZahran
    @InventorZahran Před rokem +1680

    Signal's goal was never to be an "anti-Big Tech company". It has been pigeonholed into that role by tech journalists and social advocates, especially since 2020. But from its inception, Signal was created by privacy-conscious developers, for privacy-conscious users. Before becoming widely known in recent years, Signal's main customer base were people who would've never even considered using Big Tech's services, rather than users switching from Big Tech to Signal when they suddenly realized how much their privacy was being violated by mainstream platforms.

    • @Zelix
      @Zelix Před rokem +92

      being privacy-concious is anti Big-Tech tho

    • @TheGabrielMoon
      @TheGabrielMoon Před rokem

      this privacy crazy apps it's only to help out n4z1s to spread their shit, but nobody it's already to talk about this

    • @Neckername1
      @Neckername1 Před rokem

      It did one thing though! Let people know about end to end encryption in conversations. There's one service google hasn't been able to take.... protonmail

    • @fuseteam
      @fuseteam Před rokem +58

      One can be a privacy focused alternative without being opposed to what are an alternative to ;)
      As mentioned in the video 'big tech' goal isn't to violate your privacy, it's grow their business.
      Signal's goal is to provide a privacy focussed alternative.
      These two goals are not opposing each other :p

    • @Dave102693
      @Dave102693 Před rokem +5

      Aka people love getting kicked over by big tech

  • @Ajay-kz9ns
    @Ajay-kz9ns Před rokem +195

    Failing is a strong word. These companies don't care that much about being super profitable or being the top dog. They are just passionate. A great example is Signal which is a non profit company. They don't make any revenue. They just care about serving an app that respects and protects the privacy of the users who use it.

    • @jeffersonhassan4558
      @jeffersonhassan4558 Před rokem +8

      Did you even watch the video?Passion can only go a long way,you can't feed mouths with passion

    • @tusharchilling6886
      @tusharchilling6886 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@jeffersonhassan4558 because the world is led by non-passionate people, that's why.

    • @Samazing01
      @Samazing01 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Last time I've checked, you can't pay salaries, rent, or buy groceries with passion.

    • @Ajay-kz9ns
      @Ajay-kz9ns Před 4 měsíci

      @@Samazing01 Ummm except u can. Signal is a non profit organization that gets its revenue from donation and grants. Same goes for other non profit organization. Blender is an another great example. It's free and open source and funded purely through dono and grants. There are no profit motives in these companies. So yeahh.... last time I checked passion do pay salaries, rent and groceries

    • @ThomasCuvillier
      @ThomasCuvillier Před 4 měsíci

      Ah yes it is well known data centers & engineers are dirt cheap....

  • @yebo-gogo
    @yebo-gogo Před rokem +413

    Dude, you just logically-answered yourself - Big Tech has created addictive apps, so they're impossible to ditch. It's not like cocaine is the best snuff out there, but once you're on it you can't put it down. It's a first-mover advantage

    • @michaelai8274
      @michaelai8274 Před rokem +41

      It turns out the actual drug dealers even, are the CZcamsrs. These days, you've gotta create the best thumbnail and title that manipulates in such a way that people have to watch to know what the topic was about, or even straight up click-baity stuff...

    • @poulticegeist
      @poulticegeist Před rokem +20

      Wdym first mover advantage? Google wasn't the first search engine, nor was Facebook the first social network, etc.

    • @Jose04537
      @Jose04537 Před rokem +16

      I can't ditch WhatsApp nor Facebook because is the only place you can find everyone over 25. Good luck trying to find your aunt in Discord or Snapchat.

    • @respectmathias
      @respectmathias Před rokem +6

      @@poulticegeist But they were the first to make the web hyper-addictive

    • @evinceembers
      @evinceembers Před rokem +6

      @@Jose04537 ​how about, her home? It isn't social to be connected via the digital stream, it's lazy. Discord is fine for when you're gaming, snapchat=depravity. If someone doesn't live near you, you could call them, or text them. All the updates on their days, pics, who actually cares? if you cared, you'd ask. Scrolling and liking a post doesn't mean anything, it's mindless time wasting. If you care, you reach out.
      People keep lying to themselves that they're connected with these platforms.

  • @funnyman4744
    @funnyman4744 Před rokem +306

    9:49 Someone finally said it.
    I don't even use Tik Tok, nor Instagram, but I can testify that I rarely see clickbait videos on CZcams due to me refusing to watch them. It's as simple as that.

    • @tycooperaow
      @tycooperaow Před rokem +6

      same

    • @siliconhawk9293
      @siliconhawk9293 Před rokem +5

      some clickbaits are sometimes good tho, my yt experience is mostly channels i follow or videos i look up and stuff. idk what others are watching but personally i dont particularly care if its clickbait if the video is good

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 Před rokem +30

      I thought it's quite simple. Whenever one see some trash (clickbait, celebrities, ancient aliens, mainstream media, ect) one has to click on don't recommend channel. It did not take much effort to force it to select high quality content.

    • @kissmyussr1993
      @kissmyussr1993 Před rokem +1

      There are often videos that I watch but don't want the algorithm to recommend them to me. The only way I found to communicate it to the algorithm is to manually delete every watched video that you don't want recommended from your history, or to turn it off entirely. I turned it off, and just like that, I can easily manipulate my recommendations by liking only those videos I want to see there

    • @texchu8331
      @texchu8331 Před rokem

      I used to click on one once in a while, and it would fill my feed with similar videos. It would take a week before they cleared out. Now, I'm more discerning about identifying them and not clicking them. Recently, I've been clicking on a lot of videos like these, so now my feed is filled with lots of economic knowledge videos. I also had a science phase, brainteaser phase, and cooking phase. The algorithm adapts very quickly. It also knows what sports tournament I'm currently watching. Just try not to misclick!

  • @oddballlw
    @oddballlw Před rokem +217

    another reason why open-source software is so important... its maintained by people who are passionate, and its hard to shut down a company when someone can just fork the code repo and start over again

    • @bunnywar
      @bunnywar Před rokem

      Open source made by stealing so that entitled brats can pretend to be the victim.....

    • @N.i.c.k.H
      @N.i.c.k.H Před rokem +23

      A shared service requires backend servers and those cost money and run on electricity that costs money even if they run free software.

    • @Oz7ki
      @Oz7ki Před rokem +13

      @@N.i.c.k.H thank you for stating the obvious.

    • @wumwum42
      @wumwum42 Před rokem +7

      @@N.i.c.k.H still way easier than creating ur own from scratch. You need the server in both cases.

    • @Jazztache
      @Jazztache Před rokem +8

      Signal itself is open-source, which is why it will keep on surviving. As long as someone is there to maintain and fork it, it's extremely hard to outright kill.

  • @itchylol742
    @itchylol742 Před rokem +369

    No one wants to be evil until they realize how much it pays to be evil 🤑

    • @sliwkaaa
      @sliwkaaa Před rokem +9

      vlc founder refuses to put ads into vlc even tho that would make him millions

    • @Kromiball
      @Kromiball Před rokem +22

      ​@@sliwkaaa Who the hell would even use a media player (to play THEIR files) that has ads in it?

    • @loopyzreal
      @loopyzreal Před rokem +7

      The fact that he hearted this says a lot about him…

    • @olanrewaju8202
      @olanrewaju8202 Před rokem +7

      @@Kromiball mx player says hi

    • @ramsyrama
      @ramsyrama Před rokem +1

      @@Kromiball MX player bruh

  • @naturallyweird661
    @naturallyweird661 Před rokem +30

    Turns out if you don't make it addictive people don't get addicted 😮😮😮

  • @ChaosAngelZero
    @ChaosAngelZero Před rokem +9

    This is because all of these applications and platforms are social networks, and social networks/media only work if EVERYONE you know is there.
    The opposite of Big Tech is actually _not_ Alt Tech/Small Tech, it's *No Tech.* Literally ditching phones and computers entirely and actually going up to other people in real life and speaking with them in person.

  • @thefocuschic3234
    @thefocuschic3234 Před rokem +65

    Making the parallel between anti-tech companies and diet was brilliant.

  • @itsfolf2
    @itsfolf2 Před rokem +82

    The main problem is that "big tech" companies, even ones founded recently, just pull billions in investor money that will realistically never be paid back. Twitter, Discord, Reddit, and many other big names have had few to none profitable years. Meanwhile, ethical "anti big tech" companies have to worry about their finances, and don't have that kind of marketing and PR spend. You can't compete with evil without becoming evil yourself.

    • @JDBass36
      @JDBass36 Před rokem +5

      Facts!
      You have to fight fire with fire basically

    • @tonyhawk123
      @tonyhawk123 Před rokem +3

      Seems the core issue is advertising without violating privacy. As soon as someone figures out the algorithm (and I'm not talking about Google's efforts here) the world can move forward.

    • @lonelychameleon3595
      @lonelychameleon3595 Před rokem +3

      Either that or they run to the government for a bailout like most every other big company at the first sign of trouble.

    • @mamellomolokwane1762
      @mamellomolokwane1762 Před 8 měsíci

      Actually it is realistic that they will be payed back.
      Their stock increasing and when the apps introduce new pay tiers or change some things that were free to being paid for, like what Reddit did quite recently

    • @itsfolf2
      @itsfolf2 Před 8 měsíci

      @@mamellomolokwane1762 stock is just made up company value, you're just buying a portion of the company, until the company is actually able to make a profit it's just all one big ponzi scheme

  • @TulioG
    @TulioG Před rokem +187

    Sadly I have to agree with this video... I'm a Linux user since 1999, also have signal and removed almost everything from meta from my mobile, but it's impossible not to have a certain level of compromise or to be 100% idealistic 100% of the time. Sad but true.

    • @good-tn9sr
      @good-tn9sr Před rokem +1

      yep google and microsoft accounts and apple accounts are necessary now

    • @Sasha-zw9ss
      @Sasha-zw9ss Před rokem +17

      @@good-tn9sr Google maybe, but MS and Apple seem very avoidable (especially the latter, given how they're tied to their unaffordable hardware).

    • @good-tn9sr
      @good-tn9sr Před rokem +3

      @@Sasha-zw9ss well for work, and in college you NEED a Microsoft account for Power Point, Outlook, and Excel. At least from my experience, as my college Pennsylvania State University has a pre assigned microsoft account for every student and I know this is the case for family members in other big colleges. Now for Apple, at least in America, it’s unavoidable as over 60% have an Apple device, and they are pretty affordable considering how long of software updates they get which lowers their true cost (or true potential cost).

    • @Sasha-zw9ss
      @Sasha-zw9ss Před rokem +16

      @@good-tn9sr Libreoffice, anyone? Also, Apple is no way near affordable, its PHONE costs more than my whole laptop.

    • @makezdtem
      @makezdtem Před rokem +5

      @@Sasha-zw9ss I agree Apple is overpriced a lot. Look at how much better an android phone can do with a custom ROM and without the apple bullshit (=

  • @mukkaar
    @mukkaar Před rokem +304

    Problem really is that most of the companies are platforms, and as long as you have got the customers using your products, they are basically locked in. They are natural monopolies if they capture enough people, since it's about that network. So to be frank, I think only solution is to open up these platfroms by force. For example, assuring compatibility with messaging apps, or sending files between clouds, etc.
    Like said in video, people can't stand these companies, but due to nature of the product, they kinda have to use them, sacrifice a ton, or spend a lot of effort to convice their circle to switch, which probably wouldn't work for everyone anyways. Not because they are good, but because they have the people. There's really nothing people or competitors can do.

    • @tzarg
      @tzarg Před rokem +8

      yeah it's like, if you really care that much about not enabling cookies you're probably pretty isolated in your own little world

    • @Legendendear
      @Legendendear Před rokem

      @@tzarg
      I use 2 plug ins to help with cookies.
      1.: I dont care about cookies - every single cookie of every single website I visit is accepted.
      2.: Cookie auto delete - If I leave a website every cookie it used gets deleted. (some websites are white listed)
      I dont have to worry about any cookie anmore

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban Před rokem +9

      I don’t use Amazon or FB or anything. I am addicted to CZcams though. But that is easy to reproduce, and don’t care about the viewer community. Just the content, but anyone could make a new CZcams.

    • @Jose04537
      @Jose04537 Před rokem +2

      So basically what email does? Where services can connect to each other. The European Union is preparing a legislation about that, Apple and it's iMessage exclusivity is not very happy about it.

    • @Jose04537
      @Jose04537 Před rokem +9

      @@TheBooban "Everyone can make a CZcams" No, hosting videos is expensive and keeping an "advertising friendly" platform is even more expensive because you require moderators.

  • @Real_Raz
    @Real_Raz Před rokem +8

    One of the other core problems with anti big tech social media apps is that most people don't use it which makes it even harder for you to use it.

  • @hello-friend990
    @hello-friend990 Před rokem +62

    This explains why my favourite big tech app is CZcams. You can binge without feeling like you wasted your time or compromised your intelligence. If something is thought provoking without being really addictive, it's a great use of your time

    • @tycooperaow
      @tycooperaow Před rokem +3

      Facts I feels the same about Reddit and Twitter (before Elon).

    • @Nestor__Makhno
      @Nestor__Makhno Před rokem +15

      @@tycooperaow reddit and twitter are the worst tf you talking about

    • @raaga1994
      @raaga1994 Před rokem +12

      CZcams is one of the most addictive platform. That's why it's called Rabbit hole..

    • @ChrisShawUK
      @ChrisShawUK Před rokem +1

      I love CZcams

    • @user-dt8rj2qg6y
      @user-dt8rj2qg6y Před rokem +5

      ​@@tycooperaow If you think browsing reddit and twitter is not wasting your time then your intelligence has already been compromised by them

  • @yuvraj1971
    @yuvraj1971 Před rokem +44

    when i was in school i thought i could build another Google, CZcams in india
    but then i release their R&D budget is 20-30 billion $ , and total revenue they generating from india is 1.5-2 billion $ that's not even 1% of their revenue
    i think it's impossible to beat these tech giant companies in this century

    • @sn5301679
      @sn5301679 Před rokem +9

      Nothing is everlasting, even them start from small and the beat old one like yahoo, friendster etc.

    • @blue_bfdi_sobble
      @blue_bfdi_sobble Před rokem +17

      Welcome to the great dystopia

    • @leometz7287
      @leometz7287 Před rokem

      We thougt that about MySpace or Yahoo aswell.

    • @baronvonjo1929
      @baronvonjo1929 Před rokem +6

      I'm sure many will fail before a century.
      It really is amazing how big and widespread some companies were in the early 1900s and they are now irrelevant or dead before 2000.

    • @johnps1670
      @johnps1670 Před rokem +3

      Look at IT companies from the 80s. Commodore, Wang, DEC.

  • @yuumiotp9463
    @yuumiotp9463 Před rokem +8

    signal is foss why would anyone put it in anti big tech, if you do please include the failing of GNU/Linux too

  • @mxvortex2341
    @mxvortex2341 Před rokem +7

    “You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” ~ Mark Carrigan

  • @VO1D333
    @VO1D333 Před rokem +78

    I love signal!

    • @isDatBoi
      @isDatBoi Před rokem

      But they dead..

    • @warlokk7220
      @warlokk7220 Před rokem +1

      I also use it

    • @Rakesh37187
      @Rakesh37187 Před rokem +6

      No clue why Signal is failing tbh. I have had really positive experiences with it, especially with how well backups and transfers work with it

    • @Jeez001
      @Jeez001 Před rokem

      Lack of new features

    • @Rakesh37187
      @Rakesh37187 Před rokem +12

      @@Jeez001 How many new features does WhatsApp release? Chat apps don't need fancy new things weekly

  • @Tark_
    @Tark_ Před rokem +8

    One of the reasons why DuckDuckgo declined was their stance on the Ukraine War and what they did shortly after the war happened.
    They then got accused of censoring illegal downloading sites and right after the Microsoft Tracker controversy happened.
    DDG's decline mainly came from things which were happening

  • @Aci_yt
    @Aci_yt Před rokem +27

    I actually love BeReal's premise and execution and use it pretty much daily
    I really hope it sticks around, it's refreshing to see people post unedited, every day, boring pictures for once!

    • @ruiqi22
      @ruiqi22 Před rokem

      My problem with BeReal is that the boring became predictable and often staged, which was the opposite of what the premise of the app is. I was hoping I’d just see what people I knew were doing at different times of day. But it ended up mostly being random selfies or people saving their BeReal for when they were out with friends or at a concert and then all posting the same thing. Also, it was fun when people sent personalized emotes/reactions at first, but everyone gradually started reacting with generic 👀 preset photos or the same picture of their stuffed animal for every friend’s image because they were rushing to interact meaninglessly with all 50 friends’ BeReals at once.

  • @JAYfromTHEworld
    @JAYfromTHEworld Před rokem +45

    Your video essays are incredibly addictive
    You guys always find the best topics

  • @philipmurphy2
    @philipmurphy2 Před rokem +14

    Very good video, One fact is also that CZcams is always a variety which you can't recreate elsewhere for videos.

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +1

      Thank you Philip!

    • @hello-friend990
      @hello-friend990 Před rokem +1

      I remember there was a blockchain version from 2017 that failed to get even cryptobros to use it over CZcams

    • @philipmurphy2
      @philipmurphy2 Před rokem

      @@hello-friend990 There was also Vidme that used to be which closed because hosting videos is actually not profitable to run.

  • @mattecscc
    @mattecscc Před rokem +40

    The biggest misunderstanding about big tech and algorithms is that *they* decide what we wanna see. Actually no, the users decide 100% what they wanna see, and the algorithms are just really good at showing them exactly what they, deep inside, want to see. If your feed looks fake and full of happy people that fit in the current beauty standards, it's because that's what actually attracts you and keep your attention. If it has anger-generating content, it's because that's what you show the algorithms that you engage with. At the end, social networks are just as bad as the society that uses it is. Ofc, fighting fake news is super important, but there's not much they can do besides that. We should remember that, when it comes to content, the user is ultimately responsible for what they are consuming, not the big tech. They share responsibility for some of it, but at the end it's us the problem.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Před rokem +10

      That's not really true. It's ultimately a feedback loop. If for example CZcams suggestions push you towards more and more radical content people develop opinions they wouldn't have otherwise if not exposed to it. Many lack the awareness to reflect, especially the young and simple minded.
      Also, TikTok for example literally had humans decide what was allowed to go viral and what didn't, if that's not classic mass manipulation I don't know what to tell you.

    • @brandonburns5365
      @brandonburns5365 Před rokem

      Dumbest thing I ever heard😂.

    • @sunnysideupp1
      @sunnysideupp1 Před rokem

      @@Alias_Anybody being able to be radicalized is a thing ANYWHERE on the internet, it has little to do with whether big tech exists or not

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody Před rokem +1

      @@sunnysideupp1
      It depends on the ALGORITHM. If the company that's writing it is large or small is secondary.
      Something like that is often called a pipeline. That barely exists on the free web, for example you won't get 4chan recommended if you read about trees on Wikipedia. But more and more radical stuff being pushed into people's feeds on CZcams and Facebook is absolutely a thing, anyone who denies that is full of sh*t.

  • @bass9052
    @bass9052 Před rokem +2

    This is one of the best videos I've watch from you. Nailed it. Funny thing is those anti big tech companies rely on big tech services.

  • @ShainIsley
    @ShainIsley Před rokem +78

    Wonderful video. People try to lie to themselves and blame others for their own bad habits. These companies are simply feeding into your desires.

    • @n.g.l.
      @n.g.l. Před rokem

      *good or bas habits

  • @Shimazaki00
    @Shimazaki00 Před rokem +4

    Conclusion, people live from false espectations and those big companies feed on that illusion to strive and monetize for!

  • @thelasttellurian
    @thelasttellurian Před rokem +8

    Don't forget OpenAI, which started trying to protect us from bad AI and ended up selling out and causing it to appear.

  • @barnacleboi2595
    @barnacleboi2595 Před rokem +6

    People hate big tech but are already too ingrained into its addicting ecosystem to do anything about it. thats depressing.

    • @tycooperaow
      @tycooperaow Před rokem

      That's only if you have nothing better else to do with your time

    • @barnacleboi2595
      @barnacleboi2595 Před rokem

      @@tycooperaow Well yeah, thats pretty obvious...? Lol

  • @bruce-le-smith
    @bruce-le-smith Před rokem +5

    very interesting, thank you. this makes a lot of sense. i liked the fast food comparison, so true those big unhealthy food chains have done very well over time, while little mom and pop restaurants with high quality food seem to turn over quite a bit

  • @BKL-qe1po
    @BKL-qe1po Před rokem +4

    I used to have over 7 hours of social media time but thankfully now that has reduced to less than 2 hours. Hope to get it under 1 hour by the end of April :)

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne Před rokem +2

    How do these reporters know that Signal is down in DAUs when Signal doesn't collect this data?
    Where do they get it from?

  • @arjayfragrance
    @arjayfragrance Před rokem +4

    You forgot one way a company like signal or bereal can gerenate money, and that is "Donation"
    Signal generate money by donations from their users and from some big time or wealthy people.

  • @jameslibby5215
    @jameslibby5215 Před rokem +35

    Signal needs to bring back SMS support. If its so confusing for someone to know if theyre sending SMS or a signal message, don't use it as your default SMS app.

    • @FlorianWendelborn
      @FlorianWendelborn Před rokem +6

      It’s 2023. SMS should be entirely disabled.

    • @jameslibby5215
      @jameslibby5215 Před rokem +4

      @@FlorianWendelborn that's valid but its not disabled and it was the only way I could keep my pleb non signal users on the same app

    • @Jose04537
      @Jose04537 Před rokem +3

      They removed it for security concerns. Google messages has a SMS encrypted service if the other person also uses Google message as their default SMS app.

    • @zyansheep
      @zyansheep Před rokem

      @@Jose04537 Maintainability and User Confusion was also a major concern (according to the signal devs at least)

    • @SreejithKSGupta
      @SreejithKSGupta Před rokem

      I think most other people apart from the US don't have this problem at all... Most of us use whatsapp/telegram etc... So not an issue... But apparently, many users of the USA are oblivious to these things, and still send messages via iMessage ( whatsapp+sms), or sms( android), which is the reason for the whole blue vs green shit...

  • @javeronh.3996
    @javeronh.3996 Před rokem +1

    the problem for some things is that a lot of the computers won't let you change the default of things easily. which makes it hard to keep changing things or having to remember to go a bunch of extra steps to use it
    and I think the algorithms of some/most of the things are skewed. but we are not allowed to admit that or we are hidden from everyone

  • @Barantoww
    @Barantoww Před rokem +8

    i have seen some negative comments about the voice acting but to be honest itr really chill and calming

  • @ishankapoor
    @ishankapoor Před rokem +2

    In case of signal, people have started to go for telegram coming from whatsapp.

  • @ralnou
    @ralnou Před rokem

    Great video as usual! Keep it going!

  • @Gameplayer55055
    @Gameplayer55055 Před rokem +19

    If you want to defeat big tech - become necessary for them
    Like Linux

    • @hankhillsnrrwurethra
      @hankhillsnrrwurethra Před rokem +1

      I work in big tech. My company encourages use of open source projects under conditions. Strong community support mostly. No obscure forks.

  • @mirapru
    @mirapru Před rokem +32

    maybe the anti big tech companies are failing because they are also big tech companies

  • @dimasrahardja
    @dimasrahardja Před rokem +9

    It's not about being customer being happy, it's about fair opportunity for other start-ups to compete make big companies like already existing like Google's Facebooks.

  • @manafon5398
    @manafon5398 Před rokem +4

    Signal exists for people that would never in their life consider installing whatsapp on their phone in the first place, their audiences have almost 0% overlap, it is a niche open source product that supports itself through donations for the most part.
    It needs to send a message from one phone to another with complete privacy and security and that's all.

  • @lonelychameleon3595
    @lonelychameleon3595 Před rokem +1

    Algorithms are a mirror, and we hate the reflection we see.

  • @garethjax
    @garethjax Před rokem

    i've made a "diet" from facebook, last year, for exactly ONE MONTH: i've deleted by account (you can do it temporarily, like a voluntary suspension). It was liberating. Since i still need the social media for personal contacts, i've removed most group subscriptions and most pages which i've liked. I've also deleted the app from the smartphone. Now the feed has sense: there are only updates from the people i really care about.

  • @endless_puns
    @endless_puns Před rokem +1

    It's difficult to use a messaging app when almost none of the people you talk to. And it's impractical to have 100 different messaging apps as well. At some point, it just doesn't make sense to keep an app because you use it to talk to one person or so, even if the app offers better UX and privacy. Sad but that's how it is...

  • @ashtonx
    @ashtonx Před 3 měsíci

    Problem is, many of those companies still do evil shit and track their paid users, simply because they can get away with it.

  • @vladislavkaras491
    @vladislavkaras491 Před rokem

    Thanks for the video!

  • @theelephantintheroom69
    @theelephantintheroom69 Před rokem +1

    When you market yourself as "the new thing" don't expect to last longer than your relevancy as "the new thing."

  • @wyqydsyq
    @wyqydsyq Před rokem

    RE "would you ever attempt a big tech detox", I still use CZcams, Gmail etc a lot but for about 3 years I've almost entirely cut my usage of social media platforms like Facebook and Instagram and I truly feel nothing of value has been lost, I'm not missing out on anything that really matters.

  • @cyberdevil657
    @cyberdevil657 Před rokem

    It's really sad. In Belgium nobody even cares to join signal...
    I tried convincing my friends and family. Some of them joined but most of them said they were fine with Facebook and ignorant of the big tech consequences...

  • @parisxuanviet
    @parisxuanviet Před 14 dny

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @egal1780
    @egal1780 Před rokem +2

    Sadly These companies are too overpriced to make investing reasonable...

  • @samuvisser
    @samuvisser Před rokem +1

    I dont see signal failing anytime soon. Its being used by governments and companies all over the world

  • @BriefNerdOriginal
    @BriefNerdOriginal Před rokem +1

    Enforcing interoperability between similar-purposed applications will be the only way to ensure a certain level of personal freedom and fair competition.

    • @ea_naseer
      @ea_naseer Před rokem

      fair competition? don't make me laugh

  • @tanhansing
    @tanhansing Před rokem

    You probably hear this a lot: could you up the volume of your video? We constantly need to volume down when the ads appear (too loud) in between the video and switch it back up after. Thanks much. 🙏🏼

  • @distantcomets
    @distantcomets Před rokem

    Real talk in the last couple minutes of this video. We have no one to blame but ourselves...

  • @caneprints
    @caneprints Před rokem

    When the Internet first started becoming popular with average people, Companies gave people services they didn’t pay for. Unfortunately, we are still addicted to free services, but every free ride has hidden costs and we pay with our privacy and mental health. For the services I really love, CZcams being one of them, I’d prefer to pay because it is a better experience without all of the annoying ads.

  • @mybachhertzbaud3074
    @mybachhertzbaud3074 Před rokem

    Well a good start to changing this is to point out that those services are definitely Not Free, we all pay higher prices for companies to funnel it for advertising.😵

  • @tusharchilling6886
    @tusharchilling6886 Před 11 měsíci

    I think these social media platforms should have just gone open source and seen where it goes from there.

  • @luisoncpp
    @luisoncpp Před rokem

    Once I toyed with the idea of creating a social network better for the mental health, with no echo chambers, incentivizing more understanding rather than conflict and more friendly with the privacy. However I found some pitfalls with the idea:
    - Storing the data would be problematic, if the server cannot know your data, then, all the analzying for targeting ads should run on client (the idea would be that the client tells the server which kind of ads the user could be more interested in, and the server would only know that, without knowing anything extra about the users), and that would represent a big overhead.
    - If the app is made open source, users could simply create a fork for removing the ads.
    - The company would be economically encouraged to find ways to keep users hooked to the app, and that would mean, falling in the same practices a Facebook. Creating a conflict of interest between users and shareholders is an intrinsically bad idea.
    ...in the end, I still don't see how it would be possible to create a Facebook without the _evil_ part. It would require a completly different business model, and right now I don't a good one in mind.

  • @dannylo5875
    @dannylo5875 Před rokem

    You have to have a pretty good set into the stock market. As well as a true higher then real life inspiration.

  • @richinmathew9178
    @richinmathew9178 Před rokem

    Our generation has enormous amount of options to choose from
    Which makes the people to choose the popular option and not try others

  • @Hollowdude15
    @Hollowdude15 Před 10 měsíci

    So the anti big tech companies are falling now well at least I will remember them and nice video man :]

  • @REOsama
    @REOsama Před rokem

    The diet analogy is dope

  • @linuxman7777
    @linuxman7777 Před 4 měsíci

    We have had open source alternatives to big tech products for the longest time. So money shouldn't be the number 1 concern. I even sat through a Richard stallman lecture about this.

  • @Roxor128
    @Roxor128 Před rokem

    The real problem with "anti-Big Tech companies" is the "company" part. Companies have to make money. An alternative needs to be if not publicly-owned, then at least not obligated to make money. What's needed is equivalents which are only beholden to their users, which means open source and if maintained by an organisation at all, then by a non-profit. In the web browser space, that's Firefox, and for operating systems, Linux. Both of which are hugely successful (though Firefox has fallen a long way since Mozilla started trying to copy Chrome all the time).

  • @Nyingmaba
    @Nyingmaba Před rokem +1

    People don't switch from them, because they are close to monopolies. I'll always buy from Amazon because I'm too poor to buy elsewhere. Big tech is working to put tens of millions of people out of work by developing AI and lobbying to make sure countries don't legislate AI

  • @theoneand33
    @theoneand33 Před rokem

    you don't have to become a villain you can become a community project like KDE, Gnome, Linux, and many more

  • @ramdom_player201
    @ramdom_player201 Před rokem +6

    I wonder about the possibility of a smart-balancing social media platform. Where it'll be able to recommend you those guilty-pleasures that ruin your mental health and productivity, but also actively analyse which videos cause this and put a daily limit on it in the algorithm backend or at certain times of the day. Maybe it can also ask you questions about how you're feeling and then use that to adjust the video balance accordingly. You could tell it that you want to do something and it'd stop recommending addictive videos and put a significant boost on tutorials in that category for an amount of time. It would show you things that keep you coming to the platform, but allow you to request at any time that it stop and show you something more productive. Selling user data and adverts are pretty much unavoidable by now. It could probably sell an advert free version, I suppose, that disables the shady stuff for those who are willing to pay for the service.

    • @Jose04537
      @Jose04537 Před rokem

      China already did this, Douyin is the TikTok version for China. Unlike normal tik tok, it promotes educational context and has a time limit of up to 1 hour daily.

  • @cajal6
    @cajal6 Před rokem +2

    This analysis is flawed with regard to Signal. It’s run by a non-profit. They don’t have VCs who can push them to betray their principles. They can’t be acquired,a do even if they wanted to sell out, they don’t have user data because they don’t collect it.

  • @clusterstage
    @clusterstage Před rokem +1

    i didnt know bald man had anything to do with lizards

  • @jerzyczajaszwajcer
    @jerzyczajaszwajcer Před rokem +1

    Good one. Was it written by ai?

  • @coffee2228
    @coffee2228 Před rokem +1

    And there;s a Windows that costs money and collects your data to squeeze as much money as possible

  • @louis-philip
    @louis-philip Před rokem

    "The biggest restaurant in the world isn't a salad chain, it's a burger joint". Says it all.

  • @realtimestatic
    @realtimestatic Před rokem +1

    Only because a platform shows us addictive content doesn't mean its enjoyable for the user or more precisely fulfilling so if the anti-big-tech companies offer a compelling competitive service I think they can make it. Also keep in mind you can still make money from ads while not tracking your user. Its what your good old newspaper uses in the physical edition and its called non-targeted advertising. Also I don't mind paying a bit if it means I can get away from big tech. They could just have a free and a premium variant or something

  • @drogierzeczy4381
    @drogierzeczy4381 Před rokem +8

    9:56 I disagree. Back when I had an instagram I could tell that the algorithm just screwed up its work. For both explore and reels pages the content I could see there has begun mismatching with my interests. I dare to say that it started to do it on purpose. Like when I tapped "not interested" for the content I didn't want to see, I've started to see it even more. Also many of popular trends were hyped up instead of the content similar to things I've liked, I've shared or I've saved. This wasn't the case at first, it just became a thing after a while

    • @LogicallyAnswered
      @LogicallyAnswered  Před rokem +2

      Looks like the they’ve got work to do haha

    • @checkedoff
      @checkedoff Před rokem +1

      I second that, there is some combination of what the company wants to push and the user preferences.

    • @mammajamma4397
      @mammajamma4397 Před rokem

      I've noticed the same thing

    • @jakubj_
      @jakubj_ Před rokem

      Could it be that tapping "Not interested" is actually counted as a positive engagement behind the scenes? And they are looking to increase that. After all, you're still interacting, even though you might not like the content.

    • @checkedoff
      @checkedoff Před rokem

      @@jakubj_ 😁 "Made you click"

  • @samarthnagar2939
    @samarthnagar2939 Před rokem +3

    I mean they aren't made to make money they favor users but bereal is just a joke either don't use social media or be addicted there is nothing else

  • @amanosatoshitranslates

    4:09
    at that time, myanmar got dictatorship and people are finding apps that can't be spied and they choosed telegram over signal

  • @helllo9919
    @helllo9919 Před rokem +2

    Signal is very much not dying. It got a ton of funding from security cocoons companies and got big user base of government agencies ( at least here in Sweden) and a ton of companies. It is not trying to be anti big tech, it is succeeding of being a secure ( end to end encrypted, open source) messaging platform. It also not trying to be profitable. I believe there even a non profit, in a similar form of the Wikipedia foundation. I don’t know of the other service you talked about but your WAY OF with signal and I’ve I excepted more from your channel

  • @mtd963
    @mtd963 Před rokem

    It's just a network effect in practice

  • @bforbiggy
    @bforbiggy Před rokem

    I only keep getting shown thirst traps because I keep going into the comments to see either the hate or the love

  • @originaozz
    @originaozz Před rokem

    I think the biggest flaw of most anti-tech companies is the positioning of "what it's not" rather than "what it is". If your entire purpose for existense is to serve the niche of people who don't like the way things are, you can still be successful, but you do have to evolve. People might try you because they think don't like the status quo or out of FOMO, but you still need to keep them coming back. The reason why big tech can grow so big is because their core function in people's live and the constant evolution of features. I love to hate big tech, but I do respect them for trial and error.

  • @sevenredundent7256
    @sevenredundent7256 Před rokem

    If these services are going to succeed, they're going to need the help of their users. Now, as users typically aren't technically included, we need a movement to create a bridge of sorts between the knowledge needed and the users. With that established, it becomes much more feasible because instead of renting servers to host your app, you let your users host it for you. They can pay for the server by means of cloud computing, giving them free internet access to. PS: ISPs with still be needed, it's not a long haul circuit that the uses are going to be building out, just the last Mile.

  • @doublinx2
    @doublinx2 Před rokem

    The funny thing is that most of the big tech companies themselves don't make money off the ventures others try to clone, but from more stable ventures that float the rest of their companies (or are constantly unprofitable themselves). So if Big Tech had to compete fairly on the scale of their smaller rivals they would also fail.

    • @tycooperaow
      @tycooperaow Před rokem

      Amazon => AWS
      Apple (actually still makes a good percentage of their money selling devices - due to their high markups) => but soon they are switching to subscriptions and ads
      Google => All Ads
      Facebook => Ads
      Twitter => Tesla & Dogecoin(🤣)
      TikTok => China
      Telegram => Some rich dude is bankrolling it
      There's other examples but these are just the top ones that come to mind

  • @friddevonfrankenstein
    @friddevonfrankenstein Před rokem +2

    BeReal is such an idiotic concept. I have no idea why anyone would use something like that.. How am I supposed to use social media less when a social media app (yes BeReal, be real. That's what you are) when a social media app bullies me into using it at a random point of every day? It's just r-worded.

  • @maximus6884
    @maximus6884 Před rokem +1

    No. Protonmail, Mullvad, noteshook are rising

  • @dotsovertonesinging
    @dotsovertonesinging Před rokem

    The biggest food company is not a salad chain...so logically answered.

  • @saipulivarthi
    @saipulivarthi Před 4 měsíci

    I remember using Signal in 2015 on my Blackberry

  • @nerovanguard846
    @nerovanguard846 Před rokem +1

    I'm not anti big tech but I'm anti "anti-consumer" companies. Apple for example is a company I hate with a passion but I love their products and services. It's not the products I hate but the business practices itself

  • @Szarps
    @Szarps Před rokem

    Well.. you dont need to completely quit your own privacy to have a good final product. Advertisement has just grown complacent and predatory trying to substract as much data as possible when since times as old as the firsts newspapers just slapped ads on it and whoever read that, read that and that was all. Now because they can do that they just chose to, so having a company or app that functions its ads not based on people data can still exists, granted it wont make as much money but it should be more sustainable and who knows, if enough people refuse to create spaces for target advertisement and just chose general, we could see some change

  • @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena
    @JohnnyYeTaecanUktena Před rokem

    I did not hear about Signal till this video

  • @moamlhayderaziz2662
    @moamlhayderaziz2662 Před rokem

    Cyberpunk and johnny silverhand reference / meme in a video about mega cooperation fit well 6:27

  • @brianblackwood3120
    @brianblackwood3120 Před rokem

    These tech companies need to be broken up

  • @PeacelordApropos
    @PeacelordApropos Před rokem

    The corporate method of growth is the only goal confuse me. There is a limit of people that can be reached

  • @adamoore
    @adamoore Před rokem +1

    Hearing you say “thots” was hilarious

  • @ecoideazventures6417
    @ecoideazventures6417 Před rokem

    @11:45 - "Attention cannot be created nor destroyed. There is a limited amount of attention out there, and people like spending it on things that they know they shouldnt be spending it on!"

  • @juampyvarela
    @juampyvarela Před rokem

    I left social media a year ago (aside from Whatsapp, which I use just for messaging and not stories and I don't even like chatting in the first place. And CZcams, which I'm trying to lower in consumption).
    The problem I see with ppl like me is that we suddenly don't affect the numbers. Like, there could be a billion ppl who don't use any social media, but where are you gonna find that number? Definitely not through Twitter polls haha. There isn't any useful subreddit to leave social media bc reddit is social media.
    So, what happens is that going anti-social media means disappearing from the view of the ones who strife for a healthier computer usage. So, at the end of the day, there appears a barrier between those who escape and those who desire to, but feel really alone and isolated whilst doing so.

  • @mattd5240
    @mattd5240 Před rokem

    They could rely on making products or useful services to support the free one

  • @Spartacus547
    @Spartacus547 Před rokem

    big Tech detox? we just call that camping in the middle of nowhere

  • @MarioRodriguez-zi1xl
    @MarioRodriguez-zi1xl Před rokem

    Thats why Open Sourced software is sooo important!

  • @Boycott_for_Occupied_Palestine

    These companies do not serve the searcher and the citizen.