The Grim Reality of Motorcycle Trail Riding in the UK
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Good people, good times. The word 'grim' is used ironically, as some people insist that different types of users need to be segregated.
Coxhill Lane, Potterne, Wiltshire. 30.01.16
As a British person, I feel I am well within my rights to say that was the most British thing I’ve ever seen
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@@gymbruh1824 the fuck you on about?
I literally was thinking the same
@@gymbruh1824 you prat
Indeed sir
Hate being told what to do when I'm already doing it, so friggin irritating.
I feel your pain, especially when someone interupts you in the middle of it, to tell or intstruct you. Some people just aren't right in the head 😂
Exactly
Doing the right thing still ain't good enough for some people!!!
I get it all the time too, for some reason people think I’m Forrest Gump and I’m smiling at them whilst thinking’ For what other reason am I doing this’ as they tell me that l should do what I’m doing. Maybe l should just start running and keep going 😉
edbro Aotearoa please make your youtube comments relatable.
Good practice my friend, I always do the same, especially when I come across people dogging, it's just polite.
lol
dogging 😂😂😂
😂
They like it if you stop and watch
Well if they get caught Dogging it's Not your fault 😆
it's good to see a fellow off roader being courteous to other trail users.
Thanks David, though this was recorded very much 'on road'.
I think that it is ILLEGAL to do OTHERWISE... - i have been out and about + stopped for horses - and then a stupid little grey corsa comes screaming past with no lights on...
@@WiltshireByways why was this suggested as being grim. It was all rather good really?
@@stevenross-watt8640 I think it's a joke
See? This is all it takes, folks. Simple, mannerly and with a mutual respect. You see too many stories of either bad motorcyclists or bad horse people so this was a welcome change
that doesnt mean youll ever get treated this nice again
Exactly. When I ride on the roads, I stay far left and keep my boy calm. When a car comes past I will thank them for their respect or I will wave my whip for them to slow down. I hate people who rev to scare horses on purpose. I keep following the rules. So should others.
@@veritywilcox9960 I've only ever seen that happened on a TV advert
I wonder how many arguments a year that guy on the horse gets into 🤔😂
All part of the fun for him. I practice similar behaviours on my mountain bike obviously without the engine and even then it's like the horse riders own the place.
@@snoopdutt1985 I think you may be misinterpreting them. I mountain bike and gravel bike and my Mrs rides a horse. Her and her fellow riders often act out of fear because the consequence of a thoughtless bike rider can be tragic, for rider or horse, since the horse can always react unpredictability.
@@markc17 yeah that constant fear of your hobby killing you must make you act like an arrogant *@£&. Understandably.
@@snoopdutt1985 Like I said you’re obviously not able to empathise with people who’s’ride’ has a mind of its own rather than a frame of metal. What may appear as arrogance is probably not if you’ve experienced friends being seriously injured or dying due to stupid motorists who can’t think of anybody else.
He needs to get off his high horse and quit lecturing people.....badum tssssss.
As a horse rider in Wales I personally think you were very respectful you could have very easily sped past those people but you had to courtesy and common sense to stop and turn off your engine!
and beep your horn as loud as possible when they get next to you..
Round here horse riders are fucking cunts, Im so fucking happy i have a stupidly loud bike XD
I always see horse riders up in the forests in new Radnor the bikes up there are loud af and Surprised people still ride around horses and stoof
Horse riders are assholes
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A Gentleman, that is all it takes, a bit of consideration all round.
I heard someone once say, you don't have to be a gentleman, just be gentle.
@@mrspester or, "You hurt me something lovely"
The easiest thing for a human to do is be peaceful 😌.... smgdh@humans
Spot on absolutely
Guy on the horse is a dick, bet he enjoys a good argument.
Good man, as someone who's been bucked, kicked, and thrown from a horse. Its refreshing to see someone who gives way, very courteously I might add to these men on horseback. I applaud you sir and emplor other riders to be as courteous as this gentleman is.
Thanks Mike, I've picked up a few knocks from riding horses myself.
Horse rider just had to have the moral high ground.
Needs to get off his high horse!
Yes bit of a Pratt wasn’t he!!
He wasn't like that at all. It was merely a polite request. Unfortunately, there are far too many motorcyclists who have no respect for others and I suspect the horserider may have had a bad experience or two as a result.
It's easier to control a motorcycle than a horse that's decided to throw a wobbler and you're on the horse, it can be fatal!
@@davidedbrooke9324 No he wasn't!
@@rayjennings3637 Oh yes he was!
This is the type of interaction that helps overcome so much of the negativity many feel toward motorcyclists. Mutual respect goes such a long way towards ensuring we can all enjoy our activities in shared spaces.
Everyone was really polite and respectful to each other just the way it should be
Thank you from the horse riding community, you are a gem wish there were more considerate folks like you, pity the guy felt he needed to say anything as you done everything you could to help, you just always get one. I have to say had great experiences with motorcyclists, you my friend are saving a life doing this .👍 stay safe .
Thanks Wilma, yours are kind words indeed. Stay safe and free!
Well . I once stood very still while waiting for a fox. Very early in a summer morn... then a woman rides up the hill making a very happy noise. Very happy . Like oh uh oh uh Ooooooo.... Felt like sharing the story. Nice shared moment of respect between country folks. 😊
The second horsey man wanted a confrontation and was miffed that he didn’t get one.
Clearly, the horse is the only creature in the world with a c**t halfway along its back.
Police Horses have them too.
Brilliant example. Wish more people were polite and respectful like yourself.
This is the only downside of my Yamaha with free-flowing pipes. Came across a lady riding a horse on a main road so I stopped and she was INCREDIBLY thankful. Made my day too, to have such a positive interaction with another person. I’d hate to be responsible for a horse bucking off its rider, especially a kind old lady.
You did everything right always nice to see a member of the bike community actually riding the proper way
I think the fella on the horse was hoping for a bit of a row. but where you to nice he could not start one. 🖒🖒
I've always said the same, horses shouldnt be allowed on tax paying roads as they are too easily spooked which annoys everyone
I never turn my engine off , I'll slow down and give plenty of space while going round but if the horse is scared of noise keep it off the roads it's dangerous
Massive respect to the motorcycle rider!
I never cease to be amazed at how many horse riders preach to motorists about what to do and not do around horses.
My advice has always been simple. If a horse is not comfortable around motorists and vehicles, they should not me on a road!
I walk, camp, ride a Harley and drive a Landy. You sir are a gent, well done, respect 👍 ATB Dave 😊
To those asking why the word "grim" is in the title; welcome to British humor, enjoy your stay.
As an American I can appreciate the use of dry humor without a need for explanation. Comedy here has gotten to the point where you actually have to lead with "This is a joke and not how I really feel, so please don't take offense" followed by 40% of people taking offense.
Whats so grim? You showed respect and was rewarded with a heartfelt thank you.this is how civilized people co-exist.
Some people enjoy pretending that this kind of behaviour doesn't happen.
I feel sorry for horse riders who don't realise the enduro bike was invented years ago. They spend hours looking for stupid bits of leather, hay, nails, shoes, silly hats and boots to keep their mode of transport running when all they have to do is be lucky enough to find and buy a Yamaha WR250R which is the god damn best mode of transport anyone could ever need.
Where I am Alberta Canada...we actually have trails for horses and separate for dirt bikes and quads...it's nice for both
The same here in England. Horse riders have routes that they can be sure they will not encounter motor vehicles on, though can use all public highways other than footpaths and motorways.
@@WiltshireByways So much safer, although on occasion we will come across motorized vehicle on horse trails, first time I thought my horse was going to LOSE HIS MIND!!!!! needless to say I'm working on trying to get him used to this sort of stuff lol
this is one of the reasons im moving to poland. our new garden is its own trail. land goes on for ages into some woods then onto a lake. damn I got lucky but maybe all my years of suffering in England is now worth it. roll on start of May.
i love mechanicals and nature so i should fit right in
Wow what a great ambassador u r for the biking community. That was a fab thing to do and let the horse have a look and also the chat between the 3 of u. We all moan at people who get it badly wrong so I'm sending lots of praise and good wishes to you. Stay safe 😊❤️
Thanks Heather, and you.
If you watch videos of motorcycle riders in the USA, (where I live) they often show off how they chase down people in their cars and smack their side-view mirrors off if they feel they were impeded in their high-speed slalom through traffic. They imperil everyone including themselves. You don't behave as though the rest of the world should yield to you. I wish more would follow your example.
We all have to share the space and it’s nice to see a positive video where everyone is getting along
I live in Germany and it‘s mostly illegal to ride your motorcycle in the nature. A friend of mine *cough cough* had the situation that he stopped his engine for people with dogs and they started shouting at him that it‘s illegal to ride there, pulled him from his motorcycle and called the police...
Unlucky!
Well done mate. 👏 When we are hot for a nice relaxing ride stopping for five minutes is no big deal 👌
Very courteous of you mate,shows not everyone is selfish
Respect my friend, sometimes it’s really rewarding to be polite. What goes around, hopefully comes around.
Omg!! I’m not watching another thing ever!! this was so refreshing so how human beings should be with each other, everyone polite but each getting what they needed without screaming and effing and jeffing at each other all done within the peace and quiet of the countryside. It’s made me feel quite hopeful 😇
Just watched a video titled the grim reality of horse trails in England. It was a couple of horsemen passing a motorcyclist. Fascinating stuff.
What a top man doing this. I'm a trail rider and do exactly same
Thanks Rob, ride safe and have fun.
Top man! The dying breed of the courteous and caring.
And that is how it's done! Well done to all
Awesome attitude, as a Cyclist I try and promote this same attitude myself to fellow cyclists, alas I often get criticised for it!
Good on you for trying to improve rider conduct. I don't think cycling could ever be misrepresented as much as motorcycling, which is not something I would wish on anyone.
wow there you have it..very polite and all involved go on in a nice manner.
Good job. Bikers like you will save the sport for yourself and fellow riders. Be responsible and respectful.
When I 4 wheel i always give way to horses because of my loud engine, and if I were riding a horse i would want the same thing
You are lucky in England to have green laning. Up here in Scotland its illegal. Very courteous riding my friend. 👍🍻
Not so - more that Scots law hasn't prescribed everything like in England and Wales. My understanding is that a public road must connect to public places together, so two other roads or an isolated chapel. I think those that know keep a very low profile!
I'll look and see what information I can find and post it here
WiltshireByways I hope to stand corrected! but as far as my understanding goes there are private land owners in Scotland who refuse entry to their land and also forestry commission land is no entry. I apologise for late reply but I never got notification on your reply. 🍻
Robert S that would be very helpful. Thanks. 👍
I narrate the law as I see it in a video published on my channel entitled 'Great Motorcycling Roads #4 - The Corrieyairack Pass'.
A good example of the golden rule, well played on both sides.
I know not everyone agrees with horses being ridden on public roads or paths for various reasons concerning the animal's unpredictable nature, but like everything else, horses can be desensitized to their surroundings. They do not always pose a hazard, particularly when *all* parties take appropriate caution.
if horses are that scared of everything, then surely taking them near a road or a trail used by motor vehicles is just a bad idea
This is all very fair on the bike riders part, but people that own horses, should be training their horses to be happy around vehicles, not that the biker should be able to scream past them at 8000rpm. But I used to help a local farm that took holiday makers riding, and all of their horses were trained to be happy on the road, and it’s just laziness on top of a superiority complex, which is like I have a horse and has to be my way, that a lot of riders have, which is a big part of the problem.
I was at a country pub in Sussex a couple of years ago, and they have a part of the car park put aside for horses, and this stupid woman was riding through the car park, when her horse kicked the front of a parked car right in, busted headlight and a completely buggered front wing, and she was going to leave without informing the cars owner, but a few of us stopped her, and the fury of her swear words was amusing, especially when we found out that she didn’t have insurance, and she honestly believed that it was the car drivers fault, even though he was eating lunch with his family at the time.
And it was a bit similar in this case, because the biker had stopped well short. And he had stopped his engine, but still that dick on the Hunter, felt that he had to say more than hello and thank you...
I don't ride a motorbike but this makes sense to me. I don't see anything grim about this.
I did exactly this with my quiet road bike and the hoarse rider was determined to complain! He was hell bent on moaning whatever I did. You're entitled to be there as much as them so just ride, ifs they wanna ride unpredictable animals then that is up to them
Not sure if grim reality is a good title but I applaud you for your courtesy and patience.
@TWO WHEEL FIX. There at least one road still open to MC if I'm not mistaken. ;-) Corrieyairack Pass. Quote " The Highland Council states that the Corrieyairack Pass is not maintained as a public road, and is not suitable for use as one, so it advises against using motor vehicles on the pass.[1] The road surface is made of stone, though it is now very eroded and damaged, and in many places the original paving has been lost. It is now used primarily by hikers and mountain bikers, as well as access for workers maintaining the adjacent electricity pylon line" Un Quote" They have put up barriers to stop 4x4's but motorcycles can get through. Note: All the road or path closed signs are rectangle, just giving information, not orders. Basically what its saying you can use the pass, but at your own risk
The rider chap may seem a bit OTT, but when you’re on a tense horse, 10 feet up in the air and the ground is a long way away, and very hard, you’ll do what it takes to prevent an accident
Here in the States, I used to go to Brown’s Camp in the Tillamook State Forest (plenty of videos on CZcams, take a look), which was connected to trailheads for mountain bikes and horses. With a rock quarry also becoming the de-facto place for target shooting, and plenty of SUVs taking to the trails, it’s a crowded place.
Perhaps it’s the sheer size of our Off-Highway Vehicle areas or how we mark them, but pedestrians and horses never cross paths with motorcycles, ATVs, or 4x4s.
It seems like what you need on the other side of the pond is a dedicated OHV area, whether it’s privately or publicly owned. Bonus points if you could replicate the track layout from Indian Dunes.
Good to hear that he was sensible enough to turn of his engine as the noise can often spook an horse or dog
Good on you mate! Its not pretty when a horse kicks off, seen one go through a car windscreen, when the person didnt slow down and it started bucking 😳
Exactly!
Wow that was really refreshing, thank you for showing respect to the walkers and horses. Have seen so many on here of young lads on their trail bikes bitching and moaning about other users of the paths. It's so nice to see a considerate user for a change. That's a thumbs up from me on this video, great....
Yes he was very respectful, in fact more than he needed to be towards the pedestrians and horse riders in this situation. Now the real question is would you show the same respect toward the dirt bike riders?
From my experience that is rarely the case, with angry pedestrians giving you dirty looks, hand gestures, shouting, refusing to get out of your way, even calling the cops on you,...all because you dared to disturb their peaceful walk in the woods on your dirty evil machine.
lol.. I grew up on motor bikes so you're aiming that at the wrong person! I don't ride them myself, but from a young toddler age can remember being zipped up inside my dads oversized coat (this was the sixties lol) sitting between his legs, later he got a sidecar.. He had every British bike going, Norton, BSA, Triumph etc. He brought them as wrecks then spent a long time searching for original parts to rebuild them. So in answer to your question, don't have problem with bikes or bike riders. What you need to ask yourself is could those people have had bad experiences with people that aren't polite on bikes? Not all people are that way, but yes granted there are some. Please don't tar all people with the same brush :(
Well I assumed that from "...that was really refreshing..." and ..."bikers bitching and moaning..." From my experience that is almost never the case. The opposite is true. The bikers are always polite, they slow down, even give a nod or a wave as they pass by...they just want to ride. Most of the time it's the pedestrians that have a problem with bikes.
What would that "bad experience with bikers be". Passing them almost at idle as quietly as our machines would allow it seems to be enough to send some (older) pedestrians into a fury. What do they expect us to do? Park at the side, turn off our engines and hide in a bush until their royal ass passes? I know what they expect us to do, not ride at all.
I really don't want to tar every person with the same brush, but when only a few of them complaining is enough to get us all banned from doing what we love, it's hard not to get upset.
If everybody just gives up an inch (the pedestrian moves out of the way, the rider slows down, the horse rider trains his horse to motor vehicles), nobody has to give up a mile. And we can all pass each other with a friendly smile and a wave.
Btw how nice that you had a motor dad ;)
Because I have come across myself many, young bikers who have screamed at me for not moving out of their way fast enough on muddy paths, also had a number of times teens came screaming up fast behind me only slowing down a few feet from me, then been told come on move... also there are many video's on here where people have moved out of the way and you hear in their helmet mikes where they are say f*cking walkers. Just because you are polite, and this chap is sadly doesn't mean ALL of the young trial bike riders are!! It's all about mutual respect, walkers and riders. Like I tried to explain politely one day to three bikers, you don't know if the person who isn't moving fast enough for you has medical conditions that means they can't move fast, or if they are elderly then don't move fast. Sadly they weren't impressed and just said yeah what ever. :(
I know loved being on dads bike lol.. :D Miss it and him so much some days, sadly he died when I was 16 due to a biking accident. Oil on a wet road...
I never scream at somebody not moving out of the way nor does any rider around here that I meet. That's just rude and should never be done. Idk maybe the riders are different where you are. A little venting of frustration in your own helmet never hurt anyone. But then again the walkers don't seem to be shy about yelling at the riders either...
On the "not moving out of the way fast enough". One of the main complaints from walkers I hear is how loud the bikes are. You can hear them half a mile away. That gives you plenty of time to find an appropriate spot to move out of the way (people of really bad hearing excluded). I run a lot in the woods and I always manege to move to the side without an issue.
So which one is it, are bikes too loud or are they not? I think most walkers simply underestimate how quickly a bike can come up on you. They are inattentive on the road, so the bikes startle them(when they are right up on them bikes get really loud), which they interpret as aggressive behavior from the riders.
Reminds me of my poor old grandma. When I drove through a town (at the speed limit) in 3rd gear, the rpm was higher and she would yell at me to slow down. When I used 4th or 5th gear (same speed) she would not complain at all. Most of this is all perception. Many riders know this and clutch in when passing someone just to be on the safe side.
I live in France and here you just jump on your bike and hit the forests, got to be careful mind during the hunting season as there are alot of heavily armed (.308, .277 etc etc) hunters wandering around, and if it's after lunch most likely a bit pissed. Defo not like the U.K. Good video, good respect shown.
I was working on the footway on the main road in a rural area where a bridal way crosses the road once, all I had was pedestrian barriers out around the inspection chamber and I was standing in the road in high Viz clothing. A lady on a passing horse went berserk at me, because me walking around in full high Viz clothing sent her horse off on one in the middle of the road. I had no machinery running and was making no noise. But the fact I was moving walking in the road on the opposite side to her was very inconsiderate and I should have known better for alarming her horse. They don't like high Viz clothing apparently, despite the majority of riders wearing it themselves. She told me I would be reported to the highway authority even though I had full authorisation and permits to be there with my work site. Maybe not all horse riders are stable human beings or always considerate themselves?
Absolutely first class. Real gentleman. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴👍
Crikey. You're lucky to have gotten out of that one alive. Such hostility from both parties. You see, people with different interests just can't get along with one another. We will have to keep fighting until every last one of them is....
Wait, what? We don't need to be horrible to each other? Really?? We can share our toys and privileges?
In all seriousness, I wish more people witnessed this sort of behaviour in our countryside. Many people are bigoted about things they know nothing of. I hope to meet you coming the other way some time. Chapeau.
Been horse rider for thirty years & I cant understand why folks are upset with what the horse rider said- some people you meet on the road really dont understand how horses can react and all horses are different
I used to ride horses, now I ride motorcycles, back in the day the trail bikers would do the same as you.
At some point there were some assholes that flew past everyone without any regard to safety...
Now you can hardly ride a motorcycle off road legally anywhere...
Courtesy goes a long way, well done!
It was like watching myself and my mates out and about
Manners cost nothing and make a massive difference - Stay Safe
I totally agree with stopping and engine off, but begs the question, should such an uncontrollable animal be allowed on a public highway?
I know it's old but mad respect!!👍❤🇺🇸🇬🇧
It's so muffled, when you turn on subtitles its automatically in Russian. :)
if riders can't control their horses just because of loud noises they shouldn't be on the byway as they are a risk to everyone. vehicle riders have to make sure their vehicles are roadworthy and under control, why should horse riders be any different? What makes them so special?
Because many of the roads were created by horse use and the law we use today was created by them and with them in mind. We can't just cherry-pick the laws that we don't want to apply to us.
Maybe the law makers live out in the country side away from the riff raff and own horse's.
Lol this is the UK, of course the lawmakers own (or owned) a horse or two or a hundred.
Because riding a horse is fuckin more proper than a motorbike. Properly understood lad ?
@@jamesavery6671 well it's not though its equal
That wasn't hard, was it! Shame everyone can't be this nice to each other.
We always switch off in the Peaks then wait until the horses are out of sight before we start up, if it’s on the road overtaking 5/6mph on the opposite kerb, passing again 5/6mph low revs. That’s all it takes we all have to be courteous to each other.
Jesus if everyone was like this in the world wouldn't it be a much better place..
I don't get why ppl would have a problem with it. I live in a place with horsillion stables around and this is kind of nice when we pass each other with riders. I simply stop the engine and admire that beautiful animals. I'm not in a hurry anyway, as I'm enjoying my ride. No one ever had a problem with me passing and 99 of 100 always thank me and give me thumbs up. Simple live and let live rule applies :)
A great case for electric motorcycles. I have to say up here in Scotland I’ve given up with motorcycle trail riding after 50 years, in part due to the law change. Now I find a legal electric assist mountain bike gives me as much pleasure and little or no grief from fellow trail users.
A curse and a blessing John. Horse riders have an enormous problem with cyclists because they're so silent compared to motorcycles. I've got an e-bike myself, so like you have seen first-hand how people's reactions change when noise is removed.
WiltshireByways Yes, it’s the movement too. I got charged by a cow the other week on my pedal assist bicycle. Scary!
you are a credit to our hobby
Whilst I don't like horses personally. This video made me smile
People riding horses on roads really upsets me
I do this at home here in Ontario Canada as well. It's always a good time for a break let the horses pass take a minute and continue. Nice to share the trails
That is awesome!
Always a pleasure.. You sure are a gentleman👍
I try.
You are a true gentleman. .bless your darling heart..Jxx 🌼🌹🌷
I try, thank you.
Good man, this a perfect video of what to do
I’ve just started greenlaning and watched your videos, lots of great tips.
At the weekend I stopped for a horse rider, she told me it was probably worse that I was sat waiting (engine off) rather than passing her slowly, she clearly hasn’t heard a Yoshi can before hehe.
The car driver behind her wasn’t so pleasant and asked me in a rather abrupt manner, where my number plate was, luckily having seen your way of dealing with people, I politely told her it was at the rear of the bike (didn’t have chance to educate her about bikes not having front plates).
I do the same here in NZ on my MTB. I get some surprising responses.
We have horses. Just train them to get used to the sounds of motor engines. Its all very possible to get used to. Many riders are scared before the horse get scared. Or are scared for the horse whilst the horse is not. Just train them and you have a better, more relaxed ride.
Well yes, horses used to ride against cannon fire, lines of men with guns, roaring fires. Now a car comes past and they flip their shit. It's clearly bad training and control on the owners part
Good British politeness. Rest of the world take note
Well done. Byways are for all to enjoy. Sadly too many treat them as their own.
I'm so sorry that this had to happen to you. Best wishes.
You are a very patient person. Good for you. Too bad people can't desensitize their horses properly if they are going to be in public domain.
Jodi Fisher motorbikes can look like predators to a horse. Imagine a loud metal terminator panther coming at you in a forest and see if you won't freak out :)
If the horse is that skittish.... It shouldn't be out in public....!
A one ton animal that could kill a passer by
The amount of bridle paths around Lincolnshire but thay never seem to use them .only the boats and byways then complain and then get them restricted to motor vehicle's
Thars brilliant. But in Australia most of the horses are toigh and are not spooked by a little moto..
Haha if only that was true. There are no narrow shared byways though in OZ like the UK and many walking and horse parks don't allow motorcycles
Lol you are right on both counts. You of course did the right thing for the walkers and riders. And yes it is a grim fact that off-roading in the UK is sooo far from being able to wildly ‘send it’. What you need is a mate with a farm, I have and that’s where I get my off-road kicks.
Well done. If you ever decide to come across the pond theres a large amount of trail availqble to you and ill be glad show you a few.
Good to see, probably says more about me but I didn’t think the rider needed to go into all that, seemed obvious the motorcyclist was a sensible considerate laner
I ride a ZXR750 with a rather loud exhaust when ever I'm confronted with a horse I always pull over and turn off the engine. What's 40 seconds out of your ride to show respect.
Horses and their owners are not legally obliged to have third party insurance and if for any reason it damages you or you vehicle, thats not your fault, the horse owners are not liable.
That's not true in the UK. The rider/owner is responsible for the animal, which is why most are insured via BHS gold membership.
@@WiltshireByways I'm sorry to disappoint you, but your post isn't correct. I was waved past a horse and rider, the horse smashed the side of my car, whilst I was stationery. I contacted the horses owner, who provided me with their general third party insurance details and I placed my claim with them. Their defence, which is backed up with case law, was that as the horse hasn't done it before and as its an animal with a mind of its own, the legal owner and rider are not liable. I took legal advice, which resulted in the same outcome, unless you can prove the same horse had done it previously, which is impossible to prove.
Wish the edicate was as nice on the bike trails I ride. They are in fact designated bike trails, however, you can hike them as long as you follow some simple rules which nobody ever does. Many close calls coming around a blind corner to find someone with a dog leash stretched across the entire trail. If they were multi use then fine... but they are built by a bike club, for bikes.
If only every one was like this.
Brilliant manners never go a miss
Always do this on my longbord too, I live on a farm with stables so I'm fairly familiar with horses, best just to carful and friendly, good job
I live in the Lake District, I’ve given up trail ridding! Absolutely fed up with tourists thinking they know the law better than me!!
I just stick to enduro events now, with like minded folk 😊
That's a shame, as there's good riding in the Lakes. I find that most people accept you know what you're talking about when you invite them to take a photo of your number plate - ideally with your smiling face next to it.