Lake Erie Shipwrecks: The Tragedy of the Admiral & Cleveco

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  • čas přidán 22. 08. 2024

Komentáře • 31

  • @davidzitzman6511
    @davidzitzman6511 Před rokem +3

    great vid,I'm a sucker for a Great Lakes ship drama while snug and dry.

  • @Ccccccccccsssssssssss
    @Ccccccccccsssssssssss Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you! You all make great videos! I've been on a kick for the past week going through your catalog. You do a service to the world by posting these

  • @acersalman8258
    @acersalman8258 Před rokem +1

    beautiful film and beautiful industries ❤

  • @flyhouseoftruth470
    @flyhouseoftruth470 Před 2 lety +9

    I had a 1959 Crestliner 16ft aluminum boat off Kelly's Island. 20hp outboard motor. 1st night out it got dark real quick and a storm came on fast. I was stuck traveling away from the island looking for a break in the storm so I could turn and head back to the island. See I was told that in a storm it's best to head nose into the wave. Afraid the boat would tip over I kept heading into the wave as slowly as I could, but it was taking me away from the island. The wave would pick up the front of the aluminum boat and it would smack down back onto the water with a sound comparable to a shotgun blast. I made it back to the island by my own wit, I couldn't see it, just had to guess. With a newfound respect for the lake.

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles Před 2 lety +2

      Bet these stories give you the creeps. When I was a teenager my dad and I were in a similar situation battling into the wind to get home. I know what you went through. These are called lakes but they're really freshwater oceans. Scary.

    • @lardo666
      @lardo666 Před 2 lety +1

      What they told you kept you alive. Sideways on to any significant seas and you are in danger of being rolled or flooded. Any number of vessels have been lost this way - not just small ones.
      Safe sailing

  • @Lmtaytay
    @Lmtaytay Před rokem +1

    Thank you

  • @rorybolkan1733
    @rorybolkan1733 Před 3 lety +6

    Interesting story thanks

  • @redtobertshateshandles
    @redtobertshateshandles Před 2 lety +3

    When I was a teenager I was in a small boat in a storm with my father. We made it home because we had an awesome Aussie aluminium tinny and great 50hp Evinrude outboard, yeah and a bilge pump. These stories give me ptsd, God bless those in Davey Jones locker. I just realised these are freshwater, less buoyancy than seawater.

  • @jimrichardson8852
    @jimrichardson8852 Před 2 lety +5

    After 38 years at sea and long retired, some of those years on tugs and trawlers on salt water,
    some years in the arctic, two things stand out to me:
    The conversion had to have been a factor that compromised Admirals stability. The modifications were obviously not well thought out.
    And:
    If indeed the portlights were all or even mostly open in those conditions, thats just bad seamanship. Even a tug that size (not really small for the times) is capable of standing much worse weather. A company I worked for sent similar tugs and tows to Vietnam on Navy contracts. Not quick or easy trips but they made the trips and returned.
    Good story, well done.

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles Před 2 lety +4

      It was an ancient steam tug, added 8 tonnes high up, a death trap. A little bit different from a near modern tug. Thanks for the story though.

    • @claireprice5101
      @claireprice5101 Před rokem

      R2rrr5r😮rwr😅

    • @claireprice5101
      @claireprice5101 Před rokem

      😢😅r

    • @Skyhawk945
      @Skyhawk945 Před 6 měsíci

      Keep in mind the Admiral was carrying several tons of ice frozen to the vessel that alone would compromise stability, center of gravity, and freeboard.

  • @carolesingleton-chase6519

    My great grandfather William Rocks was on the Admiral. My g'grandmother didn't know she lost her him until the newspaper called her and asked if that was her husband. He was an engineer.

    • @MentorPublicLib
      @MentorPublicLib  Před 3 lety +4

      Wow... what a horrifying way to learn that you lost a loved one! If you don't mind me asking, what did she say to them?

    • @carolesingleton-chase6519
      @carolesingleton-chase6519 Před 3 lety +3

      @@MentorPublicLib as far as i remember, my great aunt said she dropped the phone. Probably all hell broke loose. It was in 1942 so I wasn't around yet and it wasn't talked about very much. She never remarried.

    • @MentorPublicLib
      @MentorPublicLib  Před 3 lety +4

      @@carolesingleton-chase6519 I realize I'm nearly a century too late, but my heart goes out to her. All of us are touched by sadness in our lives, but fewer of us are faced with true tragedy.

    • @carolesingleton-chase6519
      @carolesingleton-chase6519 Před 3 lety +4

      @@MentorPublicLib Thank you, what a kind thing to say!

    • @jkrapenc1034
      @jkrapenc1034 Před 2 lety +6

      Carol, my grandfather was on the Admiral, too.

  • @felixcat9318
    @felixcat9318 Před 2 lety +2

    These men had truly horrific deaths, the instant sinking of the tugboat gave no possibility of survival, and the onset of problems that befell the barge made it impossible for the Crew to save themselves.
    The loss of these two vessels and deaths of their Crewmen would have devastated the communities in which the families lived.
    No working person should be expected to face such horrific deaths as part of their jobs, this occurred in relatively modern times.

  • @charlesswenson259
    @charlesswenson259 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you so much for your well researched video. I'm hooked on shipwreck videos. You are top notch.

  • @carolesingleton-chase6519

    listened to the whole thing- thanks for sharing this! My photo was in the PD when they were going out about the leak in the early 80's when i contacted the author. told him the Corps of Engineers should bill it to Steinbrenner as his family had owned the Cleveco. Also I was able to write to one of the 2 FEMALE Civil Air Patrol pilots, one had passed away but the other one moved to Puerto Rico in her retirement. Her relatives wrote me that she'd rec'd my letter but was very elderly and she didn't get to write back before she passed.

  • @carolesingleton-chase6519

    one more thing! my dad knew one of the guys, he went my the nickname (the Irish ALL had nicknames) of 'Angel' Chambers. he was of the Chambers Funeral Home on Rocky River Dr.

  • @robinwells8879
    @robinwells8879 Před 2 lety +1

    Strange to have a barge with a boiler and the crew to run it but not a propulsion engine. I have been on a vessel where with power applied, in this case to push on, the stern deck was swamped very easily just by way of the power applied.

  • @CJM-rg5rt
    @CJM-rg5rt Před rokem

    It's kind of disgusting that divers kept this secret for a long time, stole the bell, and buried bodies that they found in the mud without any permission whatsoever. They acted like they owned it which is insanely arrogant and would be illegal today.

  • @Skyhawk945
    @Skyhawk945 Před 6 měsíci

    I'm a diver and not opposed to wreck diving. However, when human remains are present i feel the tomb shouldn't be violated. They could have evacuated the remains or simply welded the doors closed. It's disturbing the doors were left open as described. Just my opinion..

  • @Dulcimertunes
    @Dulcimertunes Před 2 lety +1

    Who needs Nazis when Great Lake storms will sink ships?😞

    • @felixcat9318
      @felixcat9318 Před rokem

      That's a particularly ignorant and offensive thing to say, poor vessel modifications and bad weather have absolutely nothing to do with a very specific, deliberate, genocidal policy of the mass murder of innocent men, women, many of whom were pregnant, and children and babies, in Extermination Camps and Concentration Camps, in addition to countless massacres in towns and villages.