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PAIN
And the ep being aired on father's day too 😭
Mushoku (Pain) Tensei
Inflicted
My heart hurts yo
Now his kid only has a grandma
You lost your hand, your dad and now your mom is a vegetable.
Happy Father's Day Rudy!
That's so f up
The hand that he lost, if you remember, he called it Hercules (left hand and the right hand was called hulk)
Tf@@thecubanlink2000
@@thecubanlink2000those were his arms/biceps, not his hands
@@kingjaven13 turning point 4 will be more f up 💀 get ready for that
Delaying the release of this episode to air it on Father's Day was *NASTY* work 💀
They knew how to rip our hearts out and spit on it on our old men’s special day
Fr man 😢
One of the most diabolical things in anime this year
I thinking the exact same thing cause there was no reason for why a delay needed to happen
@@tbphillips9649i mean yeah they openly did it for that reason. They said there was no production issues
The person who decided to release this episode on Father’s Day definitely has dad issues.
Fr
Don’t forget the episode that got delayed
@@tbphillips9649That makes it more believable 😳.
i mean it's perfect sense because paul action represented responsibility as a father so it corelated it just sad because the follow up paul is split in half like gojo
I actually thought that it was just coincidence, but then I searched and apparently, Father's Day is also big in Japan. So yep now I believe that the fuckers in the studio really delayed the episode so that it'd air during Father's Day.
The reason Rudy froze is because the hydra started using the necks to attack and they were not within his field of vision, so his eye of foresight was seeing a bunch of destruction confusing tf outta Rudeus since the necks until that moment were basically just dead weight, and unlike Paul he does not have insane reaction time.
Anyone asking if this is true. It is, in the LN it showcases how his demon eye was overflowing Rudeus with information.
Not to mention that one would never expect to see the attack of a decapitated head come out of nowhere, at all times the hydra's necks remained without reacting like that until those moments when it decided to attack Rudy directly.
Plus its his first dungeon and he's doing CQC with it as well
@@kabosuiEven if it wasn't for that, the first time it was falling debris that he couldn't have braced for, then it was that the necks started attacking and even nearly killed Roxy
The whole situation was chaos and Rudy was constantly in immediate danger, because Paul insisted that they press on despite Geese saying they should head back and regroup, they definitely could have.
They took the risk because they didn't want to turn back, Paul even told his very own son to die trying if need be.
Overall, I don't think it's worth blaming anybody. Although, i'm sure that by now Rudy played that situation through his head a thousand times, thinking what he did wrong
I just thought Rudeus was overwhelmed and amazed by the group’s effort in bringing down the Hydra. He was just caught up with the thought that they are so close in completing the job.
The LN explains that Rudy saw a multi vision with Hydra going crazy and he couldn't comprehend it so he froze. Leave goat Rudy alone
He ain’t got goat status but he is a legend
@@chrislewis7006nah, he a goat
Nah he ain't. Orsted is the only GOAT in this show@@Enryu_uyrnE
Just because the LN explained it, doesn't justify that the anime made it look weird when Rudy froze all of the sudden. The anime has the job of conveying all the information that the viewer needs to understand what's going on.
Omg that makes so much sense. Hopefully they put that in the next episode
"geese ran off" geese is not a fighter, he is the scout/trap finder/mapper/inventory manager of the team. he stays behind during fights
yeah geese did more than enough and was 1 less person for them to protect
Geese was present enough to pull Paul’s goofy self out the first fight, he’s a real one when it matters
@@user-md4zo3ee7tfor sure…
Well either way, fuck geese
and also the cook IIRC? he a jack of all trades master of none.
I gotta give massive respect to Lilia, you just know she was emotionally destroyed the moment she heard Paul didn't make it back, but she still kept her composure and made sure to tend to Rudy first. She's lowkey been more of a mother figure for him than Zenith, due to obvious circumstances.
Yeah unironically the woman that was almost kicked out of his home ended up being more motherly to him, simply because he has been able to see her more over the years
Lilia is awesome. She's done some... questionable things and has her flaws, but deserves respect. Definitely one of my favorite characters. Has some special qualities that should be appreciated.
(I have also read the novel tho but this ep. definitely shows some of those qualities)
I can't fathome the emotinal fortitude. Only love can give you such strength.
@@HiddenStr3ngth awesome my ass bro, she is the one I hate most in the show.
She seduce paul to cheat on his wife, raising aisha to pay up for her faults by being a slave for rudeus, what kind of mother teach her kid to have sex with their brother in law if he want to? And when it finally happen (SPOILER CONTENT aisha vs ars), she want to kill her
Yes, Rudy has more attachment to Lilia and Paul than zenith. Maybe that's what MG was trying to convey that he will be unhappy if he goes. Possibility of cause if he didn't go: zenith is alive but won't be found until idk how long, roxy's death is simply news because Rudy haven't seen her physically in years same as zenith, there will be no extreme emotional trigger. In other words, nothing *too* big is affecting him (maybe only affect Paul and Norn). So essentially what MG is saying, is not wrong in the slightest.
Yes
The studio released the episode where Rudy was announced to have a child on mother's day
And likely decided skipped a week just so they could release this episode on Father's Day
We might just be witnessing a Goated studio at trolling
Shitposters first
Anime studio second
The biggest trolling they did is making the God-tier season one, and then taking away most of the staff that made season 1 great and putting them into other projects like Onimai or Idolmaster.
wasnt on purpose
That would be surprising if that was the actual reason they skipped a week.
I think releasing it on Father's Day was a happy coincidence. It wouldn't surprise me if the reason they delayed it was to get the animation looking like it did. This episode looked amazing and would have been worked on for a while to get as much across as they did.
9:04 i saw somebody say that in the light novel it was explained that the headless hydra parts were fucking with Rudy's future sight so he couldn't see when and where the actual attack came in
Yeah, apparently, when it got down to one head it started flailing both it's head and it's stumps really violently, which it had never done before, so the afterimages from Rudy's future sight covered his entire vision and he got stunned from the what the fuckery of what he was seeing, I wish the anime actually portrayed it
I think it is more like the hydra started going crazy in his future sight and he didn't realize why until wayyy later.
@@add6246 I feel like the first time it almost got him would have been equally shocking since it tried to stomp him, from his view it would just have suddenly been the inside of it's foot/dark in all directions, until he was saved the first time by Paul.
Assuming that's true why wouldn't they put it on the show? without it Paul's death just looked like a cheap plot device enabled by a plot hole, specially considering they clearly showed the eye ability working at the beggining of the fight so it's not like they completely forgot that it existed.
@@Synthwalk It's in the LN so it is true, but yeah idk why the anime didn't showcase it better. It definitely looked like Rudy just became absentminded in the anime.
Fun fact the arm rudeus lost was named Hercules! The legend of Hercules gave him the idea of defeating the hydra.
I totally forgot about that, at the beginning of season 2 he names both of his arms when travelling with Elinalise i think.
Holy shit nice catch
And Hercules died from Nesso's blood mixed with Hydra's blood... Welp.
Heracles* my dudes. Wrong guy
@@ReavenWindhe's the same person, Heracles and Hercules are his names in Greek and Latin mythology, but they belong to the same character
When they come back to Rudy's house its going to be awkward:
Norn: "Hello Mother, where is father?".
Zenith: "🥕🥦🥬"
BRO
That made me laugh more than it should've 😂
Rudeus" "I don't know Norn, where's my arm?"
“You went to get our mother but instead came back with groceries Rudy?!”
BRO I'm done
to explain why he paused, they didn't really show it well but, From the LN
"It was then, just as I was using my magic to cauterize the second
to last stump, that the hydra’s body trembled. I didn’t know what
that movement meant. I could see it with my Eye of Foresight, but I
didn’t understand it. The creature was too big."
TL;DR the hydra was too big for Rudy to decipher it's next move when it was up close
Sound like the average experience when fighting a huge enemy in souls game lol
Honestly, I haven't read the LN, but from context, I assumed he spent an absolutely INSANE amount of mana blocking that breath attack, so he didn't have much left to fuel his Eye, and while he's in waaaaay better shape than he once was, I just figured he couldn't react fast enough without that advantage.
@@spacenerdtrue rudy have more mana than that, badigadi himself confirm that rudy having the mana pool that can compared to laplace, it no where near to drained in this battle
@@spacenerdtrue Rudy is running on a mana tank of 1,000,000 compared to other high rank mages like Roxy who only have a tank of around 200. Rudy's nowhere close to being depleted here.
then after getting pushed by Paul he took a few seconds to realise that what his eye had shown him was the hydra using it's headless necks as whips, that's when the main head aimed at him and he got kicked by paul.
The reason he froze was because he was trying to read the hydras movements with his eye of foresight. But it was thrashing frantically and extremely desperate.
Yep all the necks were smashing everywhere
guys remember this is a Paul who retired. he was this nasty. now imagine his peak. wow
I like to think that this was his peak, he is more experienced and mature than ever, he also was around 35 years old and has his Magic sword
Nah, Paul downplayed it when Rudy mentioned it. He is now stronger, than during his adventurer days.
Seeing how strong Rudy was as a kid motivated him to continue practising, so he could keep up with him.
Plus he has fought a lot since coming to this continent. Both outside and inside the dungeon, even just traveling around is no joke here.
And even his gear is better than it used to be.
And he is Advanced in all three schools of swordsmanship, so he trades power for flexibility.
Put in a King of any of the styles in there, and the fight would've been shorter and surer.
@@sojtus8681 oh I might’ve misinterpreted that scene. It was a little hard for me to like understand what they meant by it because it was just like facial expressions. Thank you for the clarification.
Paul is half the warrior he used to be
"Yo man god bro you didn't tell me I was gon lose my WHOLE DAD!? And my mom has the IQ of a fvking spinach?"
Man God: Spoilers bruh
Well Man God did tell him don't go at all. So SMH
Man-god: "😄 Well I told you not to go.🤷🏻♂️"
@@tyasiadavis583 Man god is talking bullshit. Roxy will die if Rudy didn’t go.
Man god preparing to release the rat after next episode
The fact that this episode was aired on Father’s Day too.. they were so sick for that but it worked out really well for the added pain 😭
6:37 To be fair to Paul here, Rudy has a weird habbit of being so emotionally detatched that is seems like he "doesn't care" about his family (as we saw in this very episode when he says he doesn't really feels consider Zenith his mom as much as someone he grew up with) and Paul knows it.
Remember back in S1 when Paul and Rudy reunited for the first time and Rudy seemed waaay more concerned with Sylphy than he did his own mom and sisters?
By asking Rudy to "save his mom even if it kills him", Paul basically asks Rudy to focus on their family *for once* - thats how much saving Zenith means to him.
No, its paul conveying his trust to rudy and that paul sees rudy equally as a man, one who is capable of saving zenith. Paul said he wasn't supposed to say that to his son because he knows rudy was about to have a child but still got dragged into saving zenith. Rudy realized that paul was trying to convey his determination and resolve, and that he wanted rudy to do the same.
Rudy was using the eye of foresight the entire fight, and it was keeping him out of harms way. At the end it started thrashing uncontrollably, and overloaded his eye, the same way it did in his fight with Orstead.
He can’t turn the eye off or on?
@@deanebona9505 no
@@deanebona9505 yes, but everything happened in like 3 seconds
They should have used the demon eye effect in some of the cuts.
@@HiddenStr3ngththat definitely would’ve helped, even a 2 second shot of rudys vision being completely blinded by all the posible movements would have explained it but they went for an epic shot of paul saving rudy.
8:44 The reason Geese ran off after the breath attack is because he's not a good fighter. He'd just get in everyone's way if he got close to the hydra. Geese handles traps and mapping for the team inside dungeons, and logistics, gathering info, etc, outside of them. My man knows his role and is acting accordingly during the battle.
his role was to let the guild and home keeping party know if the party got wiped out. Tho I honestly wonder how would he be able to get out of there alone
geese is with man god. spy
@@Chadmi333what do you gain by posting this. find god
@@Chadmi333 you really should just f off from life dude, why would you post this, scumbag
@@bry9t its a spoiler
"On Father's Day, I'm proud to give my life for my son"
-Paul
Everything happens so fast so the confusion is understandable, but Rudeus "freezing up" was because the Hydra basically switched up its attack patterns on the final phase of the boss fight and he couldn't process what was going on.
The Hydra started swinging its decapitated necks everywhere which put the mages, who had to stick close to the front lines, in danger and would've killed Rudeus and Roxy if it weren't for Paul and Talhand protecting them. And the final head went for Rudeus at the end cuz it knew Rudeus was both its biggest threat and the easiest target.
Others already mentioned why Rudy froze, but another little detail is shortly right after when Rudy sticks his arm in the eye of the hydra, he does that because he’s triggered by his ptsd of Orsted who has the same pupils.
Paul = became just "GO/"
Zenith = cascad
Rudy = gutsed
Damn
Nah, the first one is the other way around. Gojo got pauled, since paul's death happened in 2013 in the web novel, so that was way before jjk even existed.
Thanks for spoiling jjk for roshi since he dont read
Paul really said: "Nah, I'd win"
HELL NAH BRUH 😭🤌
Rudy made the right choice, if he hadn’t gone there Roxy would have defo died, Zenith wouldn’t have been found and the party could have easily gone through the wrong portal. Also, Paul would have just been straight up depressed, even though he died, he was at least happy.
Spoiler
In the LN it was explained that during the journey there they saved a caravan. Which if they didn't there would have been a change of events that caused another unknown adventurer to go to the dungeon and he would have saved Roxy. Also because of the events Paul would have eventually called off finding Zenith and went home alive to Rudy and his daughters. So choices were only one parent was able to come on depending on the choice for Rudy to leave or stay.
@@kinghoenn3478 spoiler for the LN
No, Roxy would've definitely died and the same would've probably died too, the man god statements need to be considered within context
@@miguelrodriguezgonzalez6396 Spoilers
Man God's goal was to stop Roxy and Rudy from having a child together. If she got married to somebody else then that is just another problem solved. Also this keeps him in Rudy's trust for a bit longer until he would use him for some other scheme down the road.
Why can't people just discuss the content we watched? I expected to see some comments like that in this thread, yet it's nothing but spoiler talk.
Anways, yeah man, I agree with your perspective. The Man-God said he would regret it either way, but so far this seems like a good choice all things considered---especially that observation you made about Paul.
@@kinghoenn3478 Spoiler
First even in the lie he told, it was mentioned the other adventurer would've saved her but he wouldn't have fallen for her. After TP4 he confirmed that no matter what he tried he couldn't keep Rudeus and Roxy from ending up together and her getting pregnant
11:28 I saw this explanation from another comment section and wanted to put it here so here it is
“If you notice Rudy was being saved left and right throughout this entire fight by either Elinalise or Paul, he just couldn't keep up with those two with superhuman strength. At the end he was distracted by the Hydra attacking with it's necks so he didn't notice that he drew aggro on the remaining head.”
too bad this is just flat out wrong, It's really weird how there's so many people pretending to know the answer. Rudy used his demon eye to see the future, he saw a bunch of overlapping necks thrashing, but because he was too close, he couldn't understand what he was seeing so reacted late. This is THE ONLY correct answer because this written in the source material.
@@gil749 well the other thing is not wrong either, he was being saved a lot.
I don’t know this myself I just read a comment, but apparently Rudy froze because the Hydra started attacking with its stumps when there was one head left, and it threw him off guard. Probably explained more in the light novel.
You can kinda see it but yeah, it wasn't shown well. Wonder if they would adjust something in the blu ray.
I don't think it's that big of a deal though. It's a very fast paced dangerous fight where a momentary mistake can be the end for someone. They are people, they aren't perfect and all powerful. Including Rudeus. Many of them had close calls multiple times. Many reasons as to why this could happen.
Appearantly he wasn't bitten but hit by a stump. The scales were just so sharp themselves that a direct him from the body cleaved him. That's how dangerous that shit was.
Also from the previous combat against those heads of the hydra, we can see when Rudy was at close range, he definitely needed and got covered several times. But when the final head attacks him, both Elinalise and Talhand can’t come to cover.
I recommend everyone who liked this labyrinth arc to listen to the Mushoku Tensei Volume 12 Drama CD. You can find it on CZcams. This brings several moments of this arc from different perspectives, for example: Roxy's rescue from Rudeus' perspective, and Paul's death from his perspective, having his last thoughts.
Paul's last thoughts.
---
"Am I dying?"
"I want to confirm if Zenith was alive or not, at least."
"Not only that, but Norn and Aisha..."
"I wanted to see them again."
"Are they going to school?"
"Have they grown up?"
"Lillia - what kind of reaction will she have to this? Even if it's a pain..."
"Will she cry?"
"Dammit, I'm filled with regrets."
"I don't want to die..."
"Still... there are.. still... so many things I wanted to do."
Rudy: "Father!"
"But..... Oh well..."
"It’s better than seeing Rudy die."
"Chin up, my son. Stay positive..."
He smiles one final time.
"Yo man god lemme talk to you for a sec you didn't tell me I was gon lose my whole dad?!"
"You only lose half of him what are you talking about"
@@PrimeBasquiashis omnipresent ass WOULD say that shit too
Just wait
I mean he did tell Rudeus he'd regret it if he went 😂
Realistically this was probably the best outcome apart from everyone surviving. If rudy didnt come roxxy would have died for sure, they probably would have struggled to find another mage and eventually started going back in. More could have been hurt or killed but Paul wouldn't have left until he knew for sure and he would have just got more self destructive until he probably died in the dungeon. Rudy might have heard in the future that roxxy died in a dungeon if he did he'd probably find out that it was the dungeon Paul had taken her to in order to find Zenith. He would blame himself for not going and it would tank his reputation with anyone involved that Paul's party needed a good mage and Rudy his son and an amazing mage wasn't there it would be like some cosmic tragedy. Rudy needed to be there for better or worse because last time he never looked at his parent's faces in the funeral he needed to see their faces in this life to complete part of his arc.
When we first learned Eris’s grandfather got killed and her family was dead as well i remember thinking “and of course Eris’ family is dead but Paul is alive (i know he suffered hardships) and they will probably find Zenith as well because Rudy is the main character so of course his family survives”
I TAKE THAT BACK. My bad and apologies, there was no main character plot armor. And the fact that they released this in father’s day of all days 😭
Nah man the protagonist's parent usually dont live that long in anime most of the time, So I dont know what plot armor ur talking about, plot armor on the protag themselves yes but not on the parents especially the father lol, But even if we saw it coming this one still hurt 😢
People keep on forgetting the author stated numerous times that Rudy ain't the MC but just an intruder.
Its a very common troupe for the parents/ sensei to die for a main character for both their development and developing gradual stakes for the story. So it is definitely not as unique as you think it is. Even if the story is amazing, it still generally follow the same old cliché troupe like alot of other fantasy story/ anime medium in the end.
Paul's death was spoiled to me in the worst way possible: Instagram recommendations. Just a single frame in a sea of images. Man was I mad... I tried really hard to forget it, but of course it was impossible. It was the first and last spoiler I ever saw of Mushoku too. On the other hand, I was only expecting it from this episode, so the Zenith twist really got me
Damn that sucks. Hate when that happens.
Shouldn't be using social media in the day a new episode of anything releases.
I felt that, had it spoiled for me in the first cour for this season. Usually the LN readers for Mushoku are pretty chill with spoilers but they were going crazy in the comments last cour.
I got both of the parents spoiled at the end of season 1 where Rudy gets emotional over Zenith.
@@user-xx7kl7sr6i it was either a manga frame or a ln illustration and in happened even before this cour aired
According to the novel, Rudy saw (with his demon eye) the Hydra do something. It was going to fling its severed necks around like a whip. He saw but couldn't react to it quick enough and Paul had to kick him away.
Here it is word for word:
It was then, just as I was using my magic to cauterize the second to last stump, that the hydra’s body trembled. I didn’t know what that movement meant. I could see it with my Eye of Foresight, but I didn’t understand it. The creature was too big.
“You moron!”
“Wait-!” Before I realized what was happening, Paul had slammed me out of the way.
Something enormous came crashing down right in front of my eyes.
But…it didn’t have a head anymore? No-there was no head, but it did still have a neck.
The hydra was slinging its headless necks around like spiked whips- all eight of them! Every one of them was coated in tough scales that could shred flesh like a cheese grater. It whipped those necks around all at once, mowing down anything in the vicinity.
“Ruuudyyyyy!”
Paul screamed, driving his foot into me to kick me out of the way. Almost simultaneously, a thud resounded as something smashed to the ground right where I’d been a moment ago, in the once-empty space that had existed between Paul and me.
There’s actually an audio book on CZcams of the light novel. You can hear Paul’s final thoughts while he’s dying if you’re interested in hearing that
In reality Paul can’t see anything. I know he has his eyes open but the amount of damage was too much. he already lost so much blood. He’s literally in his own head filled with regret and sadness. Only at the last second does he remember he saved Rudy and it was a better outcome of him dying then Rudy and his last thought is “Stay positive” and shows a dying smile not knowing if anyone can see it or not.
How is the audiobook? Pretty much all audiobooks of LNs I've ever tried were pretty terrible narrator-wise.
@@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo its pretty good, since i can't post link in the comment you can type in youtube " WN13/LN12 spoilers] Mushoku Tensei - CD Drama | ENG subbed "
@@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudoI only listened to this section with Paul but it was so good I might go back and listen to more. You can tell Paul’s voice actor in the audio book gave it his all.
@@danny297 I shall have to give it a try then, thank you!
Paul wasn't the greatest father ever however he was exactly what Rudy needed to become a better person and live life to the fullest
Errbody cried.
Even those of us who've read the novel and knew what was coming, it was still hard to see.
Paul was an absolute beast during this fight and was the most down to earth character in the novel.
He will be sorely missed and I won't be watching this episode again 😭
11:35 yea he technically saw everything that was about to happen and couldn't process it fast enough. The hydra started throwing everything at the wall . Never back a dangerous creature into a corner and all that
Tl;dr for the last bit of the fight:
>Hydra attack pattern changed (started using ALL of its stumps)
>Hydra big af so it going wild compltely blocked his normal vision + foresight
>Rudy's not physically capable to react upon the sudden change
>he had no one to tank for him since they're protecting Roxy
>Hydra's eyelids were heavy and sharp like a guillotine which snapped Rudy's arm
It’s rough because if Rudy didn’t go then Roxy would have died but if he didn’t his dad survives… Impossible decision considering how much both mean to him
Indeed impossible for any human
Had me staring up at the ceiling for a solid 5 minutes after it ended
Yo did they pull a Casca on Zenith ? That's going to be tough for Rudy lost your dad, your arm and now mom is in this mental state. All his missing now is a mechanical arm, losing one of his eyes and great sword and he's the new generation Guts.
Oh just you wait till turning point 4😂. I won’t spoil, but if one thing didn’t happen, you would be 100% correct
A fellow berserk enjoyer 👍
At least she wasnt, ya know. She was mostly fridged during that time.
When is that happening?@@Enryu_uyrnE
@@Bionickpunk She was naked for some reason though.
The Hydra is a perv.
Now I'm wishing his dad said he wanted to say before they went in😔
"Save your mom even if it kills you" only for him to be killed
The fact that this episode came out on Father’s Day is crazy.
for those saying that Rudy 'spaced out' at the end... not really; it's more that the Hydra went 'off script' and caught him off guard with something new when down to the final head. It attacked with its neck stumps (you can barely see that in the anime as there's a neck stump slammed into the ground) which caught him off guard; he even had trouble telling what it was doing via foresight until it was too late.
Also the reason why Geese aint fighting is because he'd just be in the way, so he'll just support from time to time, its explained in the novel, but anime cuts info
Lupas cut is sharp as hellll did geometry in ur head boy damn
In the LN, Rudy doesn't just freeze, the Hydra starts targeting him and using it's headless necks as whips so he is in bigger danger towards the end of the fight, Paul only shoves him once, not twice.
13:28 Speech doesn't go away after you loose your hearing. Deaf people that can't speak were usually born deaf.
That they dropped this episode on farther day was diabolical. At least Paul died smiling knowing his son was safe
11:04 well Roxy would've died, Zenith would still be trapped, and Paul would have gotten very very depressed, desperate and possibly die trying to save Zenith. Without Rudy they couldn't reach her to begin with and since Paul wouldn't give up on his wife he would have died trying to get to her. Just a theory but it makes sense imo
Delaying the ep and releasing it on Father’s Day is wild😭was a great episode
Nah they popped off with this fight. You can feel the tension knowing anyone could get clapped any second. RIP the goat Pa/ul
I personally think that rudeus would woulf regret it more if roxy died. He was having a panic attack just hearing that she fell into a teleportation trap
The reason Rudeus froze up wasn't clearly shown in the anime.
But in the LN thr Hydra pulled a little trick that confused him and caused him to froze up
They didnt mentioned but the reason why rudy was stun it was bc he didnt understand the hydra movement (with the eye that can see 2 seconds in the future)
You see IF Rudy didnt go I think they still would have found the boss room though it would take way way way longer without the book and rudy. So heres where the whole mangod thing where he says that he would have regretted going there doesn't work. If rudy didnt go Roxy would have died, Then they would've only had paul, geese and talhand and the 2 girls, Paul most certainly would have still died because he was not going back without zenith, and maybe his whole party would have died though that depends on if they would have left paul in there by himself with the hydra. Sure rudy would still have his left hand but im pretty sure he would have regretted it far more if he didnt go.
Yeah, even if they could make it that far to the hydra without Rudeus, they didn't have someone who could come close to what he did
Those who know, there is a reason why Man God wanted Roxy to die.
Happy Father’s Day to the G.O.A.T Paul
This series does a good job at building you up with happy moments just to immediately tear you back to despair with some of the most depressing shit
Listen to Paul(lol), one of those swords is the reason why they could even cut the hydra. they skipped the explanation when fighting the skeletons in the earlier floors. Yes it was a metaphor but it is true in both sense.
apparently they scheduled the episode to drop on fathers day
Hello sadness, my old friend. The return of Rudy depression hours has commenced.
That episode felt like the real Turning Point 3. Sad to see Paul go, but at least he was able to go out in a blaze of glory. The animation on him blitzing that hydra was incredible, we've known he was a solid swordsman most of the series but he was going nuts. Not to mention his VA was absolutely KILLING it; from the screams of anger, to the somber moments with Rudy, and just the sound of pain in his voice after they had to bail from the labyrinth the first time. Took them almost the whole season but this episode was straight fire.
Geese's role was to stay within range of the teleporter and if the party gets wiped out report back to the guild + lillia and crew. He has no battle aura and no magic so would be more of a liability in the actual fight.
They didn't show it in the anime very well, but the reason Rudy "froze," which caused Paul to kick him out of the way and take the hit, was because his eye of foresight got overloaded again. Like when he first used it against Ruijerd and in his fight with Orstead. Basically he was in so close and the Hydra was beginning to flail at the same time using it's severed necks as weapons, Rudy was seeing necks coming at his from several sides. He couldn't see the main head coming at him at the same time.
Turning Point 3 heard everyone talking shit about it and took it personally.
It's funny that rudy named his left arm Hercules and that's the one he lost to the hydra
They knew what they were doing this season. This on Father’s Day and the pregnancy announcement on Mother’s Day
Paul told Rudy to save his mother, even if he had to die for it. Rudy is a mage and doesn't have the superhuman strength that Paul and Elinalise have. So, he was in a vulnerable position all fight due to how close he had to get, and he put his life on the line. Once the hydra went all out for Rudy, he was going to die to save his mother until Paul saved him at the last second. Everything makes sense. That is how the story was written; there is no "this is so stupid why didn't Rudy just dodge." Why does anything happen in a story? Because there would be no story otherwise.
This just goes to show that Rudy is not a Gary Stu, he has flaws and thats what makes him a compelling character.
Man who decided to save this for father’s day is a genius
This episode legit left me shocked , in pain, and at a lost for words. Legit haven’t felt like this in years over an episode 😭!
Lupa hair was lined up by God himself
Paul's last thoughts:
"Am I dying?"
"I want to confirm if Zenith was alive or not, at least."
"Not only that, but Norn and Aisha..."
"I wanted to see them again."
"Are they going to school?"
"Have they grown up?"
"Lillia - what kind of reaction will she have to this? Even if it's a pain..."
"Will she cry?"
"Dammit, I'm filled with regrets."
"I don't want to die..."
"Still... there are.. still... so many things I wanted to do."
Rudy: "Father!"
"But..... Oh well..."
"It's better than seeing Rudy die."
"Chin up, my son. Stay positive..." He smiles one final time
Is this from the novel?
@@rowletthejowlet6241 Its from the drama cd written by the author
Rudeus froze because the hydra focused on killing him with all the stumps and the remaining head, so his magic eye only showed up futures of him dying, and he had to pay attention to find an opening
It also happened with Orsted, whenever Rudeus is going to die the eye overloads and then shows nothing
They really shattered our expectations on both of his parents!
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Like we all saw Paul's death coming or in that momeny saw the hit where it was clear, but then they hold it off till revealing he's upside down split in half still barely alive for a few more seconds...
Then with Zenith we all knew Something would be different/wrong, she then wakes up with the a confused look and we all think she forgot Rudy or lost a bunch of memories, but then it ends up being Literal Total Memory Lose like regressed to an infant...
Have to remember, if he didn't go. Roxy would have died. They wouldn't have had found the teleporter so mom never would have been saved and everyone else probably would have died due to constantly going back in. He was just told no matter what choice he made there would be regrets, he was never told how severe.
The first time Rudy just got distracted by thinking too hard in the moment about how well they were doing, and didn't noticed one of the heads coming in from above.
The second time he saw Roxy almost get taken out, just barely being blocked in time by Talhand, and that's what distracted him and caused Paul's death.
I've been waiting for yah reaction to this episode fr. It's a top 3 episode in the series for me. Everyone that worked on it did an amazing job.
the one two punch of absolute frustration this episode left me cant be understated
Some fun fact, cut content and insight from the novel:
-In the start of the season he named his arms Hulk and Hercules. His left arm was named Hercules.
-For those saying that Rudy 'spaced out' at the end... not really; it's more that the Hydra went 'off script' and caught him off guard with something new when down to the final head. It attacked with its neck stumps (you can barely see that in the anime as there's a neck stump slammed into the ground) which caught him off guard; he even had trouble telling what it was doing via foresight until it was too late.
-The smaller sword on Pa/ul's left hand is a magic sword, it can't cut through butter, but it can cut steel. The harder the target the sharper it gets
-Also the anime has never once mentioned touki (translated as battle aura), which is basically people subconsciously wrapping themselves in mana, giving them superhuman capabilities, like how Paul and Elinalise can move so fast and jump so fucking high. Orsted's is especially strong, which is how he blocked that Stone Cannon and it only grazed him, and a bit of dialogue from Badigadi was cut about it - he asks Rudeus if he was able to injure Orsted, and wanted to see how an attack from Rudeus would do against his own touki and got split in half. Rudeus tried using touki, but has been unable to use it with every attempt.
-"Save your mother, even if it kills you!"
Paul isn't saying that just to Rudeus. He's telling himself that.
Paul's mother died when he was 11, and she was pretty much the only person in the family whom he loved and felt loved by. When he started getting closer to Zenith, his image of her started blending with the memory of his mother, for they were similar in appearance and demeanor. He fell in love with Zenith because he felt the same kind of kindness and warmth from her as he did from his mother.
So by rescuing Zenith, he'd be saving his mother.
I knew that Paul was going to die since I have read the novels but seeing everything animated hits me in a different and painful way, not to mention that the way Paul fought, cutting off the heads of the hydra without hesitation, you can tell that he was a great warrior. and very powerful, It is assumed that he had become weaker from spending several years searching for everyone in Villa Buena and he still fought like a damn final boss. rest in peace Paul. 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
just an additional note that was skipped, Paul didn't say to Rudeus 'even if it kills you' only for resolve. Paul lost his mothr and has been hauntd by not being able to save her for his entire life. He doesn't want Rudeus to also experience that
@yaboyroshi in the Light novel the reason Rudy freezes is because he hears/sees the hydra is about to swing its severed heads around and before that happened it let out a high pitched cry.
Roxy would also have died if he did not go, and who knows, maybe even Paul would have died trying too much to save Zenith while not having a group able to do it
W father. Saved his son, waited until he confirmed his son is safe, dies. RIP Paul Greyrat.
The thing is, I think Paul was definitely happy to see his son was alive, but I think another part of him was happy to see Rudy cared about him, and a third part of him just wanted to be strong for his son in his final moments. Crazy how much can go into a simple smile.
Zenith's expression was disfigured and she couldn't communicate, but from Zenith's point of view, she felt healthy and there was nothing wrong with that. I think it's the curse of the dungeon or the crystal
The regret is when if he goes he loses paul, but when he doesnt go instead of paul he loses roxy so its just a lose lose situation no matter what he chooses. Its just a matter of who he wants to save between the two
So the anime didnt show it properly, but Rudy wasnt frozen or anything. He was trying to see what the Hydra's next actions were gonna be with his Demon Eye but the Hydra moved faster than he could register.
I knew it was coming, but i didn't expect to see paul die without saying anything, just a fainting smile of a man that managed to protect his son and was proud of it😢
And just like Paul said before, he wasn't the best father at first, and he wasn't the smartest, but even still, he did what he could to improve his life and be a better person and a father, so for someone like me who had a similar situation with mi own father who sadly passed away months before i got the news, not being able to know his final thoughts, it is something that hits hard in the end
6:27 Paul isn't only saying that line to Rudeus, but also himself. He's been symbolically given a second chance to save his mother. His mother died when he was 11, and he fell in love with Zenith because she was so much like her.
After seeing all these Paul's death flag the past weeks, i didn't want to believe them, even seeing this episodes i was praying with all my heart "please don't be that kind of anime, pls be a different anime that dont follow generic death flags" i was hopping for the mission to be over, rescue his mom and all of them comeback for the born of Rudy's son... The most painfull day in a long time
In Russia we say Half of the Paul on the floor which sound like Pol pola na polu
for what its worth, if he didnt go, paul probably wouldve died losing his mind searching the labyrinth, roxy wouldve died, and his mom wouldve stayed lost in the crystal forever.
By going, he only lost his father.
Morbidly interesting detail to add from the LN:
When they were cremating paul, elinalise said that his bones could turn into a skeleton so rudeus had to BREAK his own father’s bones and put them into a vase made of earth.
Sheera misunderstood paul so much that she hates him to the core
Some LN fun facts: the Hydra is the worst match-up for Rudy as it can absorb magic. Rudy is above average in swordsmanship but in the light novels they get into the concept of 'fighting spirit' or 'Toki' swordsman like Paul and Eris can tap into it to run faster and hit harder but Rudy isn't able to use it at all so as a swordsman he's forever stuck being better than average but worse than a pro. He was in close quarters with the huge Hydra while it was swinging its stumps around using his demon eye to see where the hits would come from and in that instant he looked left when he should've looked right and because he can't move as fast as Paul he was kind of a sitting duck. What's more the Hydra knew Paul and Rudy were fucking it up so in the end it started to focus on just them. Also in the light novel Paul wasn't bit in half he was crushed in half with one of the stumps. Also the scales where said to be razor sharp so when they grazed against it it was like they were being skinned, so when it blinked Rudy's hand got sheared off.
All this being said: you aren't ready for Turning Point 4 next season, you just aren't
A legend Paul!!!! A true warrior!!!
Fragment of the novel about Paul's last breath omitted, to continue crying.
It's the face people make when someone dies...
Rudeus: "...Father? Huh? Huh? Why... Huh?"
Ahhh... so that's... it was me, right?
Before the last head fell on Rudy, I kicked him.
And then, instead, the Hydra fell on me.
My lower half was crushed by the Hydra in one blow, and I lost it.
A wound like this... can't be fixed with healing magic.
Rudeus: "...W-why?"
My vision is going dark... I can't breathe... I can't speak either...
I'm dying?
At least... I wanted to confirm... whether Zenith is alive or not...
Not only that... Norn and Aisha...
I wanted to see them again...
Are they going to school?... Have they grown...?
Lilia... What expression will she make? Even if I only caused her trouble...will she cry?
Damn... I'm full of regrets...
I don't want to die...!
Still... there are... so many things... I wanted to do...
Rudeus: "Father..."
Ah...But... well...
This is much better... At least it wasn't Rudy...
My son... take care of yourself... very much...
This episode made sure that I gave my dad a hug on Father's Day.
They dont make it clear in the anime. But Rudeus was using his eye to help with seeing what the Hydra was gonna do, but he can only "see predictions" of what is in his field of view.
The Hydra started acting erratic in the end flaying with its stumps and tail and Rudeus didnt see the final head attacking from that angle so Paul kicked him out of the way.
The Rudeus freaked out because what the Hydra was going to do before he plunged his hand into its eye to cast stone cannon from inside.
They also do explain that the Hydras scales and super sharp which why it ripped of his arm when it closed its eyelid and why just a craze when Elinalise blocked its head caused her a wound