BANNED! Mazda RX-7 Goes BRAAAAAAAAP on the Nürburgring!
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro/Specs
04:47 Lap
13:57 Verdict
15:03 I WAS RIGHT - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Maxing out the speedo in a car that sometimes likes to steer itself. Balls of steel.
yeah but the speedo only goes up to 180 kmh...
@@ShInYaKu88why? The speedometer is only psychological limit. That car itself doesn't have any electronic limiter and gears wasn't that bad either.
@@killer6355The reason is all japanese cars although with alot more potential were governed to 111 mph or 180 km when made in japan gentleman agreement
@@killer6355riginal jdm cars had hard speed limiter screw on the speedo's, was the law in Japan. Hence why it only goes up to 180kph. Of course this owner took the screw off 😊
@@ShInYaKu88 400 hp car and speedo only 180 that kinda disappointment
Misha, if i may give a little feedback, i would appreciate a little "start up" scene of the car, just a little outside clip of when you turn on the car and then cut to the lap. It would add something to the whole video in my opinion :) Especially for a special car like this, hearing it start and idle for a few seconds would be lovely.
Agreed. I just get caught in LETS GO BEFORE THE TRACK CLOSES sometimes
@@mgcharoudini second this too
Great idea!
A couple of cheeky revs wouldn’t hurt either 😏
Agree!😊
This car definitely sounds unique - the beautiful urgency of the spinning rotary mixed with the spooling of the turbo. Literally unlike anything else.
Sounds alright but I never really got the appeal tbh
smh this guy above me. maybe i’m sentimental cause i’ve been lucky enough to experience rotaries and FDs just in the passenger seat but there’s absolutely something special
@@DeFausti the engine is powered by a dorito......thats the appeal....rotarys truely are the better engine.
sadly, we almost had rotary nascar and F1 but the year they allowed that was also the year of the big cough. and when we had sim racing replace real racing....
we legit could have had rotary cars in nas car and F1.....
@@DeFausti and thats fine, it is a love it hate it, or, dont mind them but wouldnt have one type of engine. Thats why people do engine swaps. Love the FD but not the engine and even as a hard core rotary guy with 3 FDs, im ok with that. Build it how you like them.
I think it sounds like a very loud mosquito. Kinda like a high-revving i4 engine. Not a great sound in my opinion.
As a fellow FEED FD owner (of 10+ years), our wheel tubs are incredibly shallow (between the visual fender lip and the metal at the top of the tub is only a few cm). The rear tubs are flat so the entire width of the tire can rub the tub and act like a (surprisingly strong) brake. It can be very sketchy (particularly in corners where the tire that bottoms out is the one providing the highest amount of grip, it's like pulling e-brake on your heavily loaded tire). Whenever I dial in a new suspension or help other FD owners I set the height and then pull the springs and test full compression travel for clearance. If the tire bottoms out I install bump stop spacers so the e-brake type scenario doesn't happen. Most suspension on the market is not provided with sufficiently stiff spring rates/dampers for this application (track work with a wing and matching splitter often works best with 16k+ spring rate and the appropriate damper).
Our cars are really best suited for time attack applications (heat management is tough across the board, IAT, coolant, oil, brake). It was really cool to see an FD hammering for 10 min with only having brake heat issues!
Thank you!!
@@mgcharoudin As a long time subscriber it was a pleasure to see this posted on 7's day! Great video as always!
Wtf are you smoking?? Only suitable for time attack? Mazda in Australia won the bathurst 12 hour production race, 3 times!! Beating Porsche and BMW in the process! Using the same RS/RZ etc brakes we have our our FDs and they are FACTORY! Just better pads, and cooling ducts no doubt ! Suprised it didnt get hot, been to ozzy before? Even my wifes 500rwhp FD can go a 10m time attack session full tilt and not over heat on a warm day -runs a v mount set up.
As for the tyre rub, get the right offset wheel and tyre and you should have no issues, ide be keen to see if this issue is really an issue from fellow fd owners as we have never heard of it. Wifes car runs 265s in the and the front, NO issue on 18x10" rims. Only rubs a touch on the front plastic fender liner which does nothing, ive stuck a 285 in back (and now the front..with some trimming of bits though to be fair) of my car on 18x11 rim, no shock and tested, will not rub! Has small fender flare and steel lip trimmed but does not hit wheel tub to any degree its gonna be an issue, so im actually putting a 315 under there now, again, have wide fenders, these hopefully will also be fine, have seen many many fd with massive tyres under them without this 'hand brake' issue so be interesting to test once my car going.....hope its not so haha because it wouldnt be nice of thats the case.
@@ZLAKLR20B respectfully, I said best suited for time attack. I did not say that long sessions can't be done or aren't done :). The solutions to overcome this are out there and a lot of us have it figured out. The rotary is a great heat pump, everything gets hot - I hope we can agree on this. The brake solution is the easiest part of the heat management equation. The oil, coolant, and intake air temp are typically where people run into challenges (often one suffers for the other two). The owner of this car seems to have it figured out, and that's cool! (pun intended)
The issue with rubbing isn't width or offset, most of us are running 285 or 295 square. It's the top of the tire that hits, not the sides. I would not be surprised if you pulled your wheel off and looked at the top of the tub there is a very large rub or bare metal spot where the tire has contacted. If it has not, at least observe that the depth of the tub (from the edge of the lip to the top) isn't very deep. You can put your wheel back on with the shock installed without the spring while the car is on jackstands/a lift. Now jack up the wheel until it bottoms out. On many FD/suspension the tire will hit the top of the tub before the shock bottoms out on the bump stop (Ohlins DFV is an example of this). This is a problem that will need to be addressed if it's applicable to your suspension solution. Your chosen application and height may not result in this scenario (but it's fairly common).
Having seen this car at a local track for myself I can safely say it's one of THE loudest cars I have ever heard, not surprised it broke the limit even at Nürburgring. It's insane how a small displacement turbocharged engine with an exhaust and mufflers can be louder than a lot of the N/A and supercharged V8 drift cars.
It's the geometry of the rotary engine, somehow it generates sharper peaks in the sound, making it sound real gritty, and much louder.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 lmao it doesnt HAVE EXSHAUST VALVES.
@@comethiburs2326 Indeed. Thx.
Should hear my mates in the UK then, we set car alarms off just firing it up in a carpark 😂 3 rota is just insane 😂
If you think that's loud, try and calm a NA 13bpp
The best looking car ever made. It's so subtle and so perfect and the more you look at an FD the better it looks
Agree, i remember seeing a red one in the flesh many years ago, absolutely beautiful to look at from every angle
The fold-in headlights are still the coolest thing ever on a road car.
i would say 993 turbo s or GT and some others but the rx7 is definitely a nice one.
Absolutely timeless shape. Could be released now and still look modern (except for the pop up lights as they wouldnt be allowed now )
One of the most gorgeous cars in recent years, no straight lines, a thing of beauty (in standard form imo)
Some people run double mufflers on rotary's for this reason. Too many track bans
It's inherent to rotary engines, much sharper, louder sound from the exhaust gases, if anyone knows exactly how, please share.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 double or triple rotations for the same amount of time compare to a piston car, that’s one of the reasons.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 my guess is the closeness of the bang to the blow. Maybe tie in a bit of the primary and secondary plugs along with the (static/unchanging) exhaust ports.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 It doesnt change the fact they should compensate for it, instead straight piping it like monkeys. Excessively loud noise is not good. And cars that sound good dont have to be extremely loud, especially not enough to cause earbleeding.
It just has to have melodic quality to it and not sound muffled, most people just go for obnoxious noise and stupid pops and bangs, and truly good sounds are forgotten. Most modern cars sound awful because of turbo charging and efficiency focus. Just listen to how old 4 bangers sounded, hell even inline 6 engines.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334No exhaust valves to slow down the exhaust pulses is part of it. Also why rotaries spool turbos so well
The acceleration from 75 to 150 at the exit of the Karousel in a single gear from a 2 rotor turbo is insane. Thanks for driving my all time favourite JDM darling.
Very true - satisfying amounts of torque even from 3k revs
Long gear ratios because its only a 5 speed
can u post the timestamp plz?>
@@justagreekinternetuser8998 11:10
3rd gear is very exciting in a 13b car
So nice to see an FD RX7 there again. My first few years there were in my old '92 silver single turbo. That was 20 years ago now. I sold it around 2011 and went 996 GT3, as did quite a few RX7 owners back then. I also had bottoming out problems and very quickly fitted better suspension with springs around 3 x standard rate. Noise was another problem so I ran with an additional mid silencer. Brakes I ran 993 turbo discs and calipers. Bushes I went a full set of Feed pillowballs. To this day it remains my most fun track car. It always got me there and back when i used to do 7 or 8 trips per year. Thanks to the car owner and Misha for bringing back some good memories :)
That engine is so linear in its power delivery, real nice.
Borg Warner EFR turbos are amazing
@@BFE08STI stick with Garrett best
Feed built it
I appreciate you taking the time to explain your emotions. It really helps to understand the experience. Well done 👍.
This is a good reminder for everybody tuning their cars: make sure all your bushings, including stabilizers and dogbones (if your car has those) are perfectly good. It doesn't make any sense to invest on better springs and shocks if any of the bushings are bad.
Good advice indeed.
as a M140i owner i believe this is the parts that need to be upgraded more then the others mentioned
@@jackbernard484as a fellow 140 owner, I couldn’t agree more 😅
@@jackbernard484 Beemers are notorious for breaking that trailing bush on the bottom arm so if it starts to feel a little wandry get a mate to put it in gear with brakes on and see if the front wheel moves back and forth,
Love the layout of the edit, amazing to see the footwork and the gauges too.
It seems that the compression at SchwedenKreuz made one of the tyres rub and slow down , effectively acting like an unwanted ESP and making the car rotate..scary moment, glad it all went well , quite a raw experience it would seem, with the sound and all.
I had my inner fender slash out my entire tire due to a hard bottom out, it can ruin your day for sure
That car rubbed right at the beginning 5:07 and judging from the owners expression it was not the first time.
Imagine building a 50k car that rubs when you drive it
Great video - the RX-7 is a bucket-list car for sure!
Nice identification of the issue at the rear too.
Just found this guy recently and gotta say this one is one of my favs so far. Very little talking while doing the lap. MANY bangs pops and whistles. Was a treat for my ears and brain. ❤️.😂.
I like how you can judge the powerband you're going to need based on the sound of the turbo, at basically any RPM. Glad the loose bushings didnt spear yall into the barrier.
Living vicariously through you and your chanel Misha... that was amasing!!!
Holy shit...can’t beat that sound...think it got banned for sounding too awesome! Great driving too!
Wow, amazing racing line, Misha! A real pleasure to watch this with that RX-7! Thank you for sharing it with us 🙏
My first car was an RX3 automatic one lady owner. I paid $1500 for it. That was back in 1990. Recently found it again after 28 years and bought it back for $70000!
Wow 😅👏👏👏👏
Fantastic from Japan, Your uploading video July 7th is famous for “RX-7” day. It’s nice timing!
Amazing seeing the outside flyby as well. Great addition to the channel
An old co-worker daily'd his RX-7 26 yrs ago... I can't even imagine how much fun that must have been.
The driveby shot 👌🏻😎
Damn these things sound good
Nice to see your footwork on camera! I challenge everyone to try to brake with their left foot. It’s really hard to get the right feel for it. Remember to have your seatbelt on so you don’t smash your head in the dash!😂 A really nice Norwegian registered RX-7! Greetings from Norway😊
It took me few years to learn to brake with left foot on Alfa 75 V6.. It's satisfying when you master it tho..
Been a lurker watching Nurburgring videos and great to see an FD go around.
@Misha great timing with this video! Happy 7’s day!!!
I remember when I first subbed for your Nurburgring content I looked at your most-viewed and was blown away that that badass rx-7 vid that made the rounds all those years ago was published by you!
Crazy huh!
@@mgcharoudin Maybe a stupid question, but I'm curious if that vid blowing up was a spark that helped ignite what you're doing now. Obviously there was a transition period with you doing instruction and taxi laps and vlogs to being a fulltime youtuber, but was that the first time you ever thought, "Huh, there's money in this."?
@sntslilhlpr6601 yes I certainly remember thinking it at some point. I'm still annoyed I wasn't filming stuff in 2018 etc when I started doing "cool shit", but maybe for the better.
Misha you're great, I really love watching your videos, it's super fun watching you push any sort of car around the best track in the world.
Honestly I think you have one of the best jobs in the world, I'm sure there is a lot more to it than we see on youtube, but taking all these different cars around the ring, honing your own driving skills etc, it actually just sounds like a dream to me.
Hope you keep enjoying it, and also I love that you're sharing it with us. Cheers
LOVE the videos. Keep em coming!
So happy you got to drive an FD. What a beautiful car.
Thanks Misha for helping me add something to my bucket list! Someday I’ll take a lap around the Nürburgring looks like fun. 🏎️💨
Last week I did 8 laps in my own car and paid for an instructor on board. It was a safe, wonderful experience, well worth it. (1995 Mazda MX-5 NA,90 HP, no mods, everything stock.)
@@willemkaret1568 Just out of curiosity, how expensive was it?
@@JzelMoniKyep, asking the real questions here
What a great lap with tremendous sound in a lovely car.
Thanks!👍
Thanks, amazingly satisfying to see an FD driven properly on the Ring. Sounds great too.
On the brakes, I had a '96 RS which came with the 17" wheels and larger brakes; with Carbon Lorraine pads it was up to sustained track use. The factory larger brake parts are rare and pricey, but you should be able to find an equivalent aftermarket upgrade which, with CL pads, will hold up under this sort of use while still fitting inside those beautiful gold TE37s.
You constantly keeping the car in boost is just eargasms. A few of your 3,4,5 gear change exiting a turn was great 😮🎧
Happy BrapBrap day!
Awesome video, awesome driving, dream car, what can be better for a late friday watch to a cold beverage? ❤
Being able to brake with your clutch foot is a skill.
Been waiting a long time for a FD on this channel. I own a FD and hope to take it to my local track soon after addressing the cooling system so this was a nice motivational video.
The FD has always been my favourite of the RX's. 😉✌
The rx7 is my favorite car! Hearing the rotary around the nurburgring is fucking awesome! Such an Amazing car! Thank you misha!❤
Misha more of this please, what a great episode. 👍
good stuff. thank you to Misha and the car's owner for getting it out onto the track.
Extra boss mode 😎 ending with being too loud and rolling off. Crazy how a jdm car from 90s snaps more heads than modern day supercars
Nice Video......but I still miss Boris ;)
FYI, that is an automatic trans rev counter with redline 7K rpm, so presumably a manual swapped car. This car and stock manual can normally rev to safe 8000 rpms, or higher as it is built single. Manuals FD's have 8K indicated factory tachometers. Furthermore, between 7-8K these engines make a ferocious top end rush to the redline that you missed out on. You should drive it next time to full RPM limit. These cars are all factory equipped ABS, but the series 6 and 7 had primitive 3 channel ABS that was typically wonky, but perfectly usable on track. So presumably was deleted with build. Series 8 cars(1999-2002) had improved ABS among other upgrades. Automatic and base manual cars had smaller brakes which those seem to be, higher spec such as RS, or RZ have bigger brakes.
I don't think he was going 10/10's, there was a lot of short shifting as well.
The handling and braking issues may have had a hand in that.
Also depends on which series ecu is in it have noted several differing hard cut rev limits even on manual ones the re amiya ones tend to rev a little higher and are peakier in output think they push closer to predet limit on timing and fuel.
It's nice seeing someone drive well. A good driver drives with a delicacy in their inputs.
The sound of that car has some real charm and character. I cannot stop listening. It's beautiful.
The exhaust tone, the spooling of the turbo, the blow off value. Definitely a iconic car to drive through green hell. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 it was so satisfying to see that speedo maxed out. This video deserves over 1million views
Cool car and definitely one of the best cars of the 90’s. That E36 M3 though! 🔥
Haven't watched many onboards of RX-7's, thanks Håkon and of course Misha. 😎
That guy in the e36 that overtook you guys at about the middle of the lap was giving it some!
You can’t beat the sound of a turbo charged rotary though. What a cool car!
FD chassis is known for bump steer, so he probably should take a look at that as well.
Is this from the suspention arms or steering linkage ?
I just need Phil Morrisons V10 M3 to make a throwback trip to the Ring to hit that decibel limit again lol. Full PLUS 1 for the Dogfight sticker on the car, awesome brand!
Love it, and I hope you get to drive it again after the recommended upgrades are sorted!
I had one of these many many moons ago. It was a beast to drive at speed. It would play nice and then out of nowhere snap loose. Not quite a widow maker but it deserved your complete attention at all times out on the track.
Oow , Misha , your vids have just gone up a notch , more of this please. ! ?
I've seen this car a lot. guy lives in the same city as me. First saw the car when i was at the gym and it was outside. Looked at it for a solid 5 minutes lol
Absolutely love that rotary buzz
One of my alltime favorite cars and timeless designwise. Happy about this video!
I'm sure everyone in Adenau could hear this RX7 driving The Ring. 😄
My girlfriend and I enjoyed this video, also all your videos in general are so amazing!! keeps me entertained and learn new things in every video!! Keep it up, my big garret turbo meth powered 500WHP mazdaspeeed 3 is almost ready and I am definitely considering if I can ship my car to germany along with taking myself there for a nice trip with my dream car finally on the road!! Thank you for helping keeping me motivated Misha!
Let's go!
Omg please ship it!! I have one as well and have been dying to see Misha drive one!!
PLEASE DO THIS. As a Speed6 owner our cars need more exposure! You're built block I assume? BL or BK?
Makes me miss my old MPS/Mazdaspeed 3 though mine was only Stage 2
@@jordonpollock1550 actually stock block from a gen 2, its almost done at the machine shop, platinum series manley piston and rods, freektune head studs, also my turbo is externally gated :D (my car is a red gen 2 originally from california but its now in ontario!)
Nice catch bro.... ❤
Loved the pass you pulled on the Peugeot coming into the carousel.. minuscule, but nice driving, the modulating of the throttle to allow for the kink.. very nice 👌
Nice to know about those bushings both of mine did that "soft rear axle" as you call it, at least I think that's what it is, way I would describe it that you feels for a split second like its letting go, but its just shifting into a new position, I learned to not panic about it after a bit but its not ideal!
Oh my.....WOW! The ammount of punch you are getting out of that little engine so late in the power band is really making me rethink the RX-7. Absolutely incredible. What a magnificent and musical exhaust. 😯
I thought the same thing!!
You are so quick with your feet, and so confident in a car that shouldn't be trusted. Insane! (net als vroeger op de scooters Misha ;) )
Quite a contrast.. Yesterday you had the most animated passenger in history and today it was like watching 'Men in Black', or maybe you had an Easter Island statue with you 😁
Nice lap, great car!
Love how smooth rotary engines are
The FD is timeless so fun to drive.Matasaburo Maeda was a genius in my opinion.With my FD the first thing I did was replace all the bushings, bigger brakes and Toe links.
Hey Misha,
This might be an annoying undertaking but I would love if you start ranking cars for some comparability between videos. Sometimes I catch myself wondering how a car would preform relative to another.
There are cars on the ring to compare, but nnnobody with your driving skills. Also I know lap times would be skewed by flags and traffic. Just an idea, love your videos
You are officially not allowed to time laps.
@@larrywynn9092 whats the point of the track then? cant time laps, cant drift, cant have loud exhaust, got to pay crazy amounts of money in case of an accident..
@@HunterOfHalfLife because it's a public road, not a track... This is touristenfahrten, not trackday.
One of the best cars ever made and sadly we will never see something like that again.
Bro i have one lol and mine sounds better !!! T2 lhd 😅😅
@@MookieMonster T2's deffo dont sound better than the REW stop lying lmao and the T2 is probably my favourite out of the RX line
Lol its built at force fed it ain't stock brah
@@MookieMonster im sure yours sounds better my apologies what i meant is T2's stock for stock or tuned for tuned dont sound better than REWs then we have the sexy beast on top the MSP 👀👀
The beep is back! Love the RX7! Sounds like it needs more compression dampening and or stiffer springs.
FINALLY A ROTARY. THE MOMENT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
If I remember right this car had like 250 HP stock and this guy upgrade it to almost 400 hp. Well done.
Speedo going to 180 kmph ... I get it :)
Maybe the speedo was due to some regulation at the time, because I'm pretty sure that car can hit 150mph in stock form.
@@4esttube Cars in Japan are electronically limited to 180 km/h.
@@R3IMU Got it. Thanks
Great owner. Awesome of him to let you push that car like that, and to admit when something is wrong.
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Also, he actually took the rear end apart and looked for the bushing 🙏
Absolutely love Rx7 that rotary sound is amazing.
the shift beep adds to the lovely sounds
Hey Misha, when they ban a car is it just for the remainder of the day?
I can’t imagine the track keeping tabs on all the banned vehicles
Intrigued to know 😊
Yes its just for that day, you can come back the next day and get banned again
I would pay money to see Misha drive Rob Dahm's 4 rotor AWD RX-7 on the Nürburgring Nordschleife but I suspect that it wouldn't be legal because of sound constraints.
Could be done on special track days
I don't think that car could make it. The suspension is a mess.
@@MiGujack3, so just out of curiosity, what's the evidence of that?
@@ivans3778, so you think that he designed that suspension on his own from scratch and didn't just get it from somewhere else?
@@ivans3778, no, we don't all know where that design originated, so do tell.
Very clever arrangement of camera shots. Can see everything clearly while still lots of focus on the track! “Brakes are getting fired” 😂
yess a rotary finally :). Thanks for sharing
...but officer, this car only goes to 180kph. Look!
I've been wanting to see Misha drive more JDM cars, and we actually get to see it!
Some get him a Skyline GTR please! 😂
Beautiful car, amazing driving as always. Hi from New Zealand! Rotaries are well liked here
This video could've gone much longer for the sound alone, I was sad when it ended 😂
So why did it steer by itself?
Rear tire contacting the top of the rear wheel tub on compression. It's an FD issue.
It has FSD.
YEEEEESSS!!! So many years had gone by since we last saw a fast lap of an FD on the Nordschleife! You've just joined a very special club Misha! Do you know the One Lap Heroes guys? They are the ones that did a fast lap with the FD :D
I had that bump steer wheel arch issue happen to me on the fastest corner of my local track. Definitely wakes you up! Definitely made sure to fix that right when i got back to pit!
First, I guess?
Wow, so nostalgic seeing this car. I used to own a Red 2nd Gen '88 back in highschool with a Racing Beat (company in Florida) down pipe, high flow intake, and exhaust. Thing used to hall azz!! 13B power! I always wanted to buy a 3rd gen but moved on to a 2JZ GTE VVTI in a Lexus GS. Now I'm riding Bimmas.
Those intro shots & music combo was amazing
Misha you have the best videos, honestly, God bless you brother. I'm a viewer from Canada 🤜🏼🤛🏼
That turbo sound is so sweet!
I am happy to see the RX-7 at the Nürburgring.
The rotary sound is the best.
This is a legend! super excited!
I had an 89 mk3 Supra 7MGTE with a straight pipe and lowering springs. It was slow af but FUN af. No traction control made the rear super happy Around corners. I loved that car before I sold it.
That turbo spool up sound. Damn.
super well tuned rotary. excellent sound and powerband.
I love old cars , they have so much passion 😍😍😍
Sounded amazing. Dam sound limits
Nice car. I like how you're not (killing) the car and asking for every last ounce of power from it at all times. You're showing good judgement and restraint. You guys are brave; not even a racing helmet...let alone fire hoods and gloves.