Managing Drivers in Windows
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- In the vast ecosystem of Windows, managing device drivers can be a complex task, especially when dealing with third-party drivers. Tools like Driver Store Explorer (also known as RAPR), hosted on GitHub, offer a streamlined approach to handling drivers in the Windows driver store.
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For most people (personal PC) I think "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" I don't know how many times in the past I wanted to "update" or "upgrade" by drivers and it broke something and caused a headache and my time to undo and "re-fix" it. If your PC is fine, just leave it.
No, NO, I REFUSE! I need to update BIOS and every driver for no reason and blame everyone except me when it creates a problem.
It's like a drug, I can't stop doing it!
I usually let Microsoft updates break my drivers before I go in and fix it till it's broken more.
The Windows update two days ago completely borked my system. It updated and restarted when I wasn't even in the room and now the desktop and taskbar components in Windows are just missing. I have to use a keyboard shortcut to open file explorer and find the exe to open apps right now. I've truly tried everything to fix the corruption but I'm probably going to have to do a fresh install.
@@SHALLGLISTENBEFORETHETEMPLESOF ye it sucks. i only do my important work on linux, over the years ive shifted to use more and more linux apps as well. its very very rare i pull up a windows iso, its taken years to get here do this is not a quick shift. you should keep both os's for sure at first.
@@akak5128 Thanks, I'm switching to Linux soon, I just haven't yet but now I have a pretty strong incentive lol
Driver Store Explorer was the best discovery, Thanks!
I really like snappy driver origin (as a newbie). I remember last year I built my own PC and I didn't even know what pcie drivers were and a whole bunch of other drivers such as realtek for audio. I ran the program and had like 8-16 drivers (can't remember the exact number) not installed or completely outdated. After downloading and installing them I realised how important certain ones are such as pcie drivers for system security. All in all one of the best programs I ever downloaded.
I love SDI ❤🎉. SDI can be a 30GB offline download. Use it for all new installs.
Never even considered a driver exporter, thanks for a recommendation.
I've had some terrible experiences up through the years using these programs. The worst one had to be IOBIT driver something, man that fucked up my computer real good.
Iobit driver booster!!. Yes. This is one very dangerous. Dangerous in the sense of this program can make more problems than solutions. And offer the other products of the company to install.
I've used it for years zero problems
@@Juliodax Who really knows what it does besides downloading wrong drivers hah.
@@The-Wild-James same here. never had a single issue with it
I have a few iobit software have no complaints besides random ads, I'm curious what issues you ran into.
I love new CTT content! (Also, I haven't needed something like this since 22H2, probably earlier.)
Great topic Chris!
I recently did a clean install of Win 11 Pro on my new AM5 system. By default both iGPU and dedicated GPU were enabled in the bios, and Windows Update was installing a different driver version for each, which would break display drivers entirely. I figured out driver store explorer myself just last week, then saw this video!
There is also a logitech lighting driver that gets pulled in through Windows update that enables the new dynamic lighting for keyboard and mice, but that update makes ALL of my USB ports not work when booting into safe mode! Both these issues were fixed by DSE.
Driver Store Explorer is the best thing I learned from the video, thanks a lot 😊
Wow, this video is more useful. Thanks a lot for all this new tips
If folks knew that in device manager, they can go to a mystery device, right click, go to the Details tab, and in the drop-down the second item, "Device instance path" will contain the hexidecimal PID/VID, VEN/DEV, or maybe other identifiers which can be typed into Google to identify any hardware (non-virtual) device with missing drivers, a lot less people would get sucked into those sketchy driver pack PUPs. I dread the eventual and inevitable removal of this functionality when they force it all to be done in the Metro UI :)
There there are now a bunch of good websites that will tell you the manufacturer/vendor as well.
Also double driver is good to have around because you can backup your device drivers or archive them from an old windows install.
Thank you Chris
Thanks Chris!
Snappy Driver Installer comes really handy, especially on laptops which don't have updated drivers on the official website (because of the manufacturers releasing new models every year, so driver support ends relatively quick), but on other websites there compatible updated drivers for a specifik hardware component in that laptop. So snappy driver checks all these official drivers on all the websites from Intel, Amd, Realtek, etc.
You can use dism++ as well. It doubles up as image management via dism and target all windows version provided you're on latest windows 11 ADK
I ended up using Snappy Driver installer because I couldn't get the official drivers to install on a new mini PC running Win10 instead of 11. Awesome tool. Under WIn10 there were so many drivers that wouldn't install (thunderbolt, CPU, USBs, graphics). This tool (while it took a bit of time to download the drivers) got it up and running and working how it should have in the first place.
Although the first tool you mentioned also seems like a good addition. Great that you can export your current drivers if you need to reinstall Windows.
BTW Installing Linux on the same hardware was a breeze compared to Windows.
You Da Man!!! Thanks Chris.
I love it when a topic I haven't considered in a while is unexpectedly covered by a creator I trust.
Speaking of, what is your current process for reloading Windows 10/11? Especially fresh install and serial key management?
Great report thanks for your time.
you will hit 1M subs this year like your new path ❤
my personal favorite way for network drivers is a USB to Ethernet adaptor. It has the windows drivers on the USB and then once you're connected to the internet windows will find suitable network drivers for your on board stuff.
Finding up to date realtek sound and ethernet/lan drivers is pure fckn nightmare.
My realtek ones are currently borked and my laptop won't recognize when I plug something in to my 3.5mm jack 😥
@@binary_badg3rwell this problem is with me for 4years i think my jack is broken😂
@@binary_badg3rMe too moment. Did you get a resolution?
Agreed. Realtek's site is horrible. I mostly use Windows Update Catalog but there are many versions there and im never sure which one actually works.
Buy new replacement speakers@@smile768
you are water in the desert. thank you, really for all your work.
Thank you
I watch your videos about Windows because they are interesting. Sometimes I am tempted to install that OS just to see if your efforts will work, but I could dine rather well at a fancy restaurant for the price..
Just upgraded to a new PC... got a ASUS ROG mobo this time and i do like that Armory Crate App from them, takes care of the major drivers. One funny quirk i had is i have to plug my phone in for internet when installing Windows.
I always just do a windows update on windows but for older Operating systems Have always used Driver Booster to update drivers
I like them stock with an exclamation mark in device manager
I love sdio, been using it for years. Only ones that cause issues in my experience are storage controller updates and graphics drivers
Good video!
I actually use the tool from the manufacturer.
I disable it as a service and as bootup, so I only boot it up whenever I think of updating the drivers.
Other than that, I only do manual install. I don't touch driver booster, or driver update programs at all.
great tips! i have a question : after i exported all my current drivers, how can i manually reinstall again in the future? ...i don't see any executable ..
Hi from Greece 🇬🇷 , Chris
Hello, I have 2 different brand graphic tablets and for some reason they do not work along each other. Drivers are in the conflict. So i was wondering if i could solve that problem switching/flipping drivers with those tools you have mentioned?
Hi Christ, is there a proper order to install the manufacturer drivers?
Visit the motherboard support page > Driver section
Also Nvidia/AMD official driver download page
It mostly doesn't matter. I would prioritise display and network, because that makes everything else easier to do.
what's wrong with iobit driver booster, it always worked for me and resolved any driver issue i had .
same here
I've used it a couple of times and it's fine, but Windows Updates downloads them all, anyway.
Talking about drivers... Feels like the XP era. 😂
Should teach people to lookup Vendor-ID & Product-ID themselves. And maybe lookup the chip`s partnr. (Rather than suggest dodgy software.)
Btw Chris has a double Nvidia USB driver installed, 1 can be deleted from Driver Store Explorer. (DSE is very handy for this.)
This^
I think people who start to use such software know about product-id long ago.
I have been using driver booster for the longest while
Only recently i have decided to manually install my drivers since im using atlas os now.
I got a question how to extract a driver form Windows 11 for example the Xbox controller latest driver, since is not offered officially offline?
I have used Driver Easy for at least 5 years sometimes I check in it daily. Never had a problem. I use the paid version.
the issue is that the mobo manufactures stop support after few years 2-3 years and it stops
If by support you mean not updating their websites then yes. My 5 year old motherboard still receives BIOS updates. More infrequently now but they still provide them.
What about drivers that come with your computer parts, like motherboard, wifi driver from manufacturer, gpu/cpu driver, etc.
Do you mean the drivers made by the company manufacturing the motherboard?
i tend to wait a couple months before updating the firmware drivers especially bios related
Yes @@Juliodax
How do I export or import a group policy on non server Windows ? To prevent password reset for example
HI Chris, my tiny lenovo pc m700 has two displayport and one hdmi port. The problem im having is both displayport dont work, ive used SDIO to update the drivers but still nothing. Any recommendation would be really appreciated.
snappy driver installer ive used it for many years now, could you do a cover video on the micro win in your tool box thanks chris i enjoy your work keep up the good work
He already made a video on this
@@flyingsaucers1332 where is it
If I ever need a software, I’d pick ‘driver identifier’ you can even use it if you have no internet connection’ it’s my safer way to go. It scans your system, opens up a webpage with the drivers you need with plenty of trustworthy oem sources to download manually.
I did not get one thing: this software download the drivers, or just search the one already in the system and provide you the way to easy install it?
For me, Driver Store Explorer just crashes upon 'Scanning driver store' says '%1 is not a valid Win32 Application' So, after a few more tries, I gave up. Windows 10 pro machine with software firewall. I use Tinywall firewall. Hey Chris, make a video explaining how important a firewall is for your PC and Cell phones! Most people dont really understand Hardware firewalls and software firewalls. We need to control the 'outgoing' internet access.
There was a time that Windows keept changing my audio driver when the default one worked better, the realtek made my mic sound terrible, and it didnt have the ligth bass bost a had with the other.
This and other things are the reason I made a custom windows iso and now I am on linux.
Sure but how do I install drivers correctly? It's not easy to know how to go about when you download a 100+ file folder from the manufacturers site. With multiple executables
Control Panel | run Device Manager as Administrator | right click on the hardware item | Drivers | Update Driver | Browse my computer for drivers | Point it where you saved that folder, and proceed to install
Hey Chris after doing optimization through your tool I can't enable location service it is greyed out. For this reason some apps don't work. Like Google's Quick share
cannot believe you didn't talk about autoruns: the goto tool used to safely disable useless drivers. yes there are useless drivers and disabling them is very useful because drivers can consume NPP memory (unlike application which usually consume only paged pool)
What drivers do you disable?
@@More_Rowedge drivers are always an easy one if you don't use it
I know its freeware with a paywall for pro package so its a big no for most
but i've been using driver easy for a long time as i wasnt sure where to look for anything good
the bright side drivereasy looks for drivers from official manufacturer sites and gets those
the only thing you really miss out on is "backups/autoinstall" which i really dont care much about windows comes with build in rollback feature for drivers and installing manually is as easy as just right clicking an inf file and pressing install
thirdly it also offers an uncapped download speed
the free version caps speed to 50kb/s
thats awfully slow i know but 90% of drivers are very small anyways, so it doesnt even matter that much
the only igger ones are realtek audio and nvidia but those i got directly from their respective website , aswell as nvidia having geforce managing graphics driver for you...
again i know its freeware with paywall i never cared about
but it has been working fine for me so far, let me know your gripes with that.
My experience updating drivers I sometimes notice drivers are missing even on official manufacturer websites or are too old, like chipset, wifi and graphics drivers are so old.
How can I force windows to NOT install a specific driver from Win update? I have a Windows11 pc that needs to install a USB driver for external hardware (A Radio in this case) but Windows insists in installing a driver that once installed simply says that they driver isn't supported and go to the manufacturer. However even though the Windows 10 driver worked its not updated or supported, instead I have to install a much older one, but every reboot etc and it's back to the "new" crappy MS Update one...
Yes, windows content!
i have a prebuilt pc, never have driver updates, i just downloaded the snappy just to see what it says, it said drivers up to date......but there was 65 updates that said "not for this pc" kinda feels like it could be a little misleading for people who don't read and don't really know what there doing.
But currently Realtek and Synaptics drivers are running in the background and doing no improvement in audio or input instead eating memory 😕
hi chris i bought exe wrapper today ,but nowhere to redownload, nowhere to login account. whats wrong?
Thanks alot, really needed help with exporting my Drivers, so not a good idea to use this export list to use with NtLite. Reasons being, creating A custom win iso for a different pc , ex Amd Vs Intel. Any way, thanks for addressing this issue.
I own an Acer Swift 3 SF-314-54. Meets all requirements for use with Windows 11 (i5-8250U, 8Gb (upgraded to 20Gb), TPM, etc.) Using it with Windows 11, it does not turn on the screen when returning from sleep.
Therefore, I had to try different versions of the Intel drivers for UHD 620 graphics since Acer Support told me that this notebook does not have drivers for Windows 11.
Sometimes it works well and other times it fails again. I'll try using the tools you describe here once I get it working well. Thank you.
I can't post the link here, but you can download them from Intel's website.
TPM or no TPM, a laptop can be installed with Windows 11, but why would you put yourself through such mediocrity. 😂
@@PhilipMarcYT To be able to "Manage Drivers in Windows" ¿? :)
Hey Chris, greetings from Russia!
Back in times when windows 7 and little further windows 8 just released most of admin guys and technical support specialists used driverpack solution. Big archive of drivers for windows since version 2000 on one big sized usb flash-drive 8 gb as usual, cause 16 gb and above in thosedays being so expensive.
But in some cases DPS was really helpful cause some devices was been hard enough to determine manufacturer of it. And so many times i working with laptops and stucked in situation when only DPS helped to find drivers but there were different problem. After installing drivers via DPS standalone installer system failed to bloatware hell. Big windows and screens with ADs opens randomly at any time. Some shitty apps installing themselves In a background proccesess even when user disconnecting to internet.
I don't know how DPS going in nowadays but for some period it was best driver managing software and then it falls to bloatware-provider.
I used the Russian DriverPack on my old WinXP back in the early 2000's, it worked and didn't screw anything up. heh
@@BillAnt a bit of luck and right time to use it :)
How do I find these "hard to find" drivers missing in my Device manager, like: SM Bus Controller; PCI Device; AT91 USB to Serial Converter; USB Serial Port...etc...drivers? The Manufacturer's website doesn't list these with those titles. I have to be a driver guru to find the right one.
Do you have any experience with ddwrt? I'm thinking of installing ddwrt on my tplink ax12 that I got two weeks ago to replace the WiFi output of my cable modem.
But the only way I could get it to work with my cable modem was to run it in a cess point mode which disabled most of its features.
The reason I am using the archer ax12 is the WiFi in the modem that my cable modem has isn't good.
Even though the signal strength isn't any better in some of my devices they still don't have any problems accessing the internet. With the cable modem the far off devices would have a lot of problems accessing the internet.
Would it be worth my whole installing ddwrt on the archer ax12? How would I set it up. It literally took me 8 hours of trial and error with lots of ax12 reboots before I got it to work for me.
Lots of news and talk about raspberry Robin in wsf... Interesting enough for a vid, Chris?
Double Driver and DriverBackup! does same (beckups drivers)
I usually go with windows 11 drivers then download the gpu driver from the official website then go with driverbooster and deleting it afterwards because the ads are annoying af.
I generally only use drivers from the manufacturer and update them manually. I am not letting any automation do this because I was pulling my hair apart trying to resolve driver issues with my radeon card. Turns out that Microsoft states that driver updates via Windows Update are optional and never ever mentions that GPU drivers are an exception to this. I had driver issues for a whole year before I found out Windows update would push its drivers in place of existing ones even if the currently installed ones are newer and pulled directly from the manufacturer's site. It would always result in a mess of differently sourced drivers of different versions that caused games to crash and this wouldn't stop until I disabled driver updates via Windows update completely.
I just don't update them unless a vulnerability gets discovered or something needs it for some reason.
I usualy export drivers usig wimdows DISM tool to export drivers from wimdows 10/11 pc ( expecialy some wimdows based tablet that usualy dont provide any kind of software support or are reached ther EOL on the manufacturer does not exist anymore )
dism /online /export-driver /destination:
And ocasionaly i use snappy tool on some old machines too to install some missing drivers
nice topic, thx bro
I use Driver easy but honestly i don't know if its safe
Hey there! So, I've got this trusty old almost e-waste HP Pavilion G6, rockin' the AMD A4 chip and Windows 7 . But man, finding and updating drivers is pain in the a$$. specially graphic drivers ,HP's like, 'Sorry, we've moved on,' and AMD's all about that legacy life now. 😅 Tried my luck with SDI and Driverpack, but ended up in BSOD again and again . Any suggestions?
I use driver booster the free version from IObit, never had any problems.
GPU drivers are a HUGE pain. My windows VM just randomly goes dark, seems like the AMD GPU drivers get uninstalled mid game for some reason. Cannot boot back to the VM unless whole machine is rebooted, then it's a whole hassle of DDUing the old driver, installing new driver/reinstalling current driver, reboot loops, and finally, maybe everything works again.
At work we struggle with card reader drivers all the time. New update that's pushed through AD foooks everything up 90% of the time.
I use a software utility called "double driver" (v4.10) to back up all drivers from a PC.
can you make a video and explain to us how to safely update all the drivers in our windows without hackling between all those websites automatically
Relevant to me!
I bought a Windows 10 PC.
I HAD to lay a Windows 7 Image on it.
Unsurprisingly, I lacked several drivers.
(Win7 O/S encountering Win10 hardware)
I haven’t yet watched this video. Thank you!!!!
same here. found out there was no support for that chipset for win 7.🙄
planned obsolescence?
I found a network driver. I’leoon hunt for the othersl
You bought a PC with Windows 10 OS, there's no Windows 10 PC-only in the market. It's not a Mac.
Just run Windows Updates and it should grab all the necessary drivers.
SDIO is the best compared to windows update for drivers, its an index from official drivers from manufactory's no need to mention those 2 othet shady tools. as for the tool to export drivers? thats a good one but SDIO also does that to compile a backup
I have a few questions for @Chris Titus Tech
1. Isn’t this all kind of moot and useless now at this point with the driver installer and updater feature added to Windows Update in Windows 10 and 11?
You no longer need any third party tools or the manufacturers drivers from their websites anymore because Windows just grabs all of my drivers for me on a fresh install after using Windows Update.
And for network and other devices, everything is just plug and play these days and so my internet was already available right from the Windows Install setup menu where it asks for a Microsoft Account and etc.
2. I also noticed that you didn’t mention Intel Driver And Support Assistant. Wouldn’t that automatically be superior to any third party driver installer and updater since it’s an official app created directly by Intel themselves?
3. Also, just curious, but what do you think about Driver Booster from IOBit.
4. And my last question is, what do you think about just using the Driver Installer Discs that usually come with prebuilt PC’s for your motherboard and video card and etc? How To Geek recommends just using the included installation media. Do you agree with them in that?
i just need a website that list a stable version for each drivers. seems no one make that
I had an Nvidia and amd card in my system and since the windows 10 update that adds copilot broke my drivers and I had to remove my Nvidia card.
What's the WM you use in Windows? 🤔
looks like glazewm to me, I wonder same lmao
thanks for making more videos, the way you wanted. this is great to see
is that glazewm?
I mean. Anything recent enough and Windows will manage those drivers good enough by itself. And if it can't it's probably a sign you should get new hardware anyway.
Which products sent you letters to cease and desist?
Anyone still needing these tools to install a network driver must be on Windows 7 or something like that, since all new-ish Windows versions work out of the box with network drivers installed.
Whenever I need I driver, I try Uber or Lyft. But they are never available since I am way out in the sticks. So I just become my own driver. That's the lesson. Be your own driver. Don't rely on others.
hello fom the netherlands
i am have managing program drivershub vor that problems to fix it
holy shit that thing looks horrible
another alternative, which worked for me when I couldn´t get my network drivers up and running, is to use a usb to ethernet adapter!
LMAO BROS WIFI IS RUNNING AT USB SPEEDS
Windows Updates generally installs all of the drivers. Done.
When I switched to Linux Mint I didn't have to worry about this mess.
snappy drivers is not bad
You should also NEVER use Driver Booster!
IObit Driver Booster? I've used it in the past, no problems, and it was free of charge.
But... Windows Updates downloads the drivers as it is (so the only point to these programs is if WU can't get them).
IObit Uninstaller Pro 11 cracked (removes ads) is great, way better than the default uninstaller.
The only app i trust is 3D chip
Simple tell you if you have old driver if you are up to date and nothing more
This app saved me when i did an fresh windows install to a propietary mobo (Dell Laptop) the default windows audio drivers werent compatible with the mother and the classic Realtek one didn't work too....
But i find this app and download the exact drivers that i need .... That are a few files with no executable..you have to install them manually with the driver installer in Divice Manager but it worked
pnputil command is easier to export
I'd build PC's all day long for people if all I had to do was the hardware. By far the most difficult part to me at least is doing the windows install and making it right. Not that its difficult, its just not what I would rather be doing. Its difficult when theres issues like vague bsod errors or weird wifi nic issues. I've always gotten drivers from the mobo site. Dedicated GPU driver from the manufacturer. If theres an issue and I suspect it to be driver related. I try whatever windows update says is a newer driver.
I liked using iobit driver booster in the past, easiest to crack... lol SDI Origin is pretty good though.
Im just using Intel Driver Assistance and Nvidea assistance - if the rest of the components is working - never gonna update those
i think i know which ones you are talking about. There are a couple out there that keep installing viruses.
1:52 i like how every single drivers is mere kilobytes, and then there's nvidia with 1.6GB. How in the hell is CODE weighing that much? it weighs more then entire-ass linux distros