Holodomor: Life during the Ukrainian Famine | Soviet Union, Genocide, Cannibalism, Stalin
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The Kazakh famine of 1931-1933, also known as the Kazakh catastrophe, was a famine where 1.5 million (other sources state as many as 2.0-2.3 million) people died in Soviet Kazakhstan, of whom 1.3 million were ethnic Kazakhs; 38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest percentage of any ethnic group killed in the Soviet famine of 1932-33.Some historians assume that 42% of the entire Kazakh population died in the famine. The famine began in winter 1930, a full year before the great famine in Ukraine, with the height in the years 1931-1933. The famine made Kazakhs a minority in the Kazakh ASSR, caused by the massive amount of people who died or migrated, and not until the 1990s did Kazakhs become the largest group in Kazakhstan again. Before the famine, around 60% of the republic's population were Kazakhs, but only around 38% of the population were Kazakhs after the famine.[4][5][6][7]
The famine is seen by some scholars to belong to the wider history of collectivization in the Soviet Union and part of the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[13] Two thirds of the Kazakh survivors of the famine were successfully sedentarized due to the 80% reduction of their herds, the impossibility of resuming pastoral activity in the immediate post-famine environment, and the repatriation and resettlement program undertaken by Soviet authorities[15]. Kazakhstan's livestock and grain were largely acquired between 1929 and 1932, with one-third of the republic's cereals being requisitioned and more than 1 million tons confiscated in 1930 to provide food for the cities.
Some historians and scholars describe the famine as a genocide of the Kazakhs perpetrated by the Soviet state.[16] In Kazakhstan some studies repeated the Soviet explanation of the genocide, terming it as the Goloshchyokin genocide[17] (Kazakh: Goloshekındik genotsıd, Kazakh pronunciation: [ɡɐləˌʂʲokʲinˈdək ɡʲinɐˈt͡sɪt]) after Filipp Goloshchyokin to emphasize its man-made nature.[5] Goloshchyokin was the First Secretary of the Communist Party in the Kazakh ASSR and is also known as one of the primary perpetrators of the killing of the Romanov family.
My grandfather's eight older brothers and sisters perished in that famine.
commie tribal families who did this own the media. This is coming to the west. Get the book "BEHIND COMMUNISM'' by author Frank Britton and see who did this mess since Wall street financed communism.
@@Neversa why you guys don't talk about it openly ? why I ( a Litwin )´d post it everywhere ? film a Vlog , you do speak English , tell the world about what Moscow did to you !!!
also known as the Kazastrophe
Copied straight from Wikipedia lol
9 meals separate civilization from savagery
Maybe less.
@@Pfsif true but thats about the point where people start saying fuck it i need to eat
72 hours(or less) without electricity as well. Society is fragile
@@Mr.InbetweenFX no cap
No, this is what Ukrainians did and non of them was hungry: czcams.com/video/suQ79xKmYtw/video.html
D E M O N E T I Z E D
Yes, yes it is.
@@JabzyJoe sorry for that man, channel of Indy Neidell had the same problem when talking about thr Holodomor, seems to be recurring
@@JabzyJoe 🤦♂️
@@JabzyJoe you've got a new patron then
@@JabzyJoe Sir. There is audio interference at 5:04-5:42 that damaged my hearing.
"The flags are different, but their methods are the same."
One method: round up millions of people because their part of a certain ethnicity out of all occupied regions in a war that you started, deporting them into specific places that were built to kill, perform an industrialized genocide in literal death factories, perform horrible expirements on these people.
Other method: prevent grain shipments from reaching areas affected by a famine.
Yes, you internet centrist, you have figured it out. Nazis and Communist are definitely the same and used the same methods to purposefully wipe out whole ethnicities, because they think theyre racially inferior.
Jesus Christ, what a dumb comment.
@@callido592 Nazism and Communism aren't the same thing.
@@callido592 Jesus Christ what an obnoxious comment.
@@callido592 ah yes one genocide is much better than the other because it’s much more merciful to purposefully starve millions of people then working them to death you have figured it out you internet communist
@@callido592 Ok tankie.
Nationalsocialism and Communism are the same coin.
And the other method:
Starve and murder your political opponents and do some ethnic cleansing
The other: Murder your political opponents and do some ethnic cleansing.
Vasily Grossman once stated:
"Freedom is the direct opposite of necessity; freedom is necessity overcome"
The atrocities of the Soviets and other communist regimes must never be forgotten.
Holodomor: Life during the Belarusian Famine, google T. ""On June 8, 1933, the secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Belarus Mikalai Hikala and the chairman of the SNC of the BSSR Mikalai Haladzed received a secret letter from Naravlyany district. "On June 2 (Sikorskaya village), Sikorskaya killed her 9-year-old child. She managed to eat some of her entrails, drowned her second child the next day and died of exhaustion." Narovlya chiefs tearfully finished their message: "Without the serious help of the republican center we will not be able to do."
"The situation was similar in the neighboring Yelsk district, as the KGB reported in Minsk. In 200 families from 250 individual farms, children and adults swelled from hunger, 20 people died of weight loss in two months." In order not to see the suffering of a hungry family, Kolodiy locked his wife and three young children in the house, slammed the doors and windows, after which he disappeared, and Kolodiy's wife and two children had already died, one child was rescued by neighbors. Tikhonov's widow Ulyana left her three children to starve and went to an unknown place, ”the KGB officers gave horrible examples.
A special commission has left Minsk for Homel region to check the facts. On June 21, the Bureau of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Belarus recorded in the protocol that in the Yelsk and Narovlya districts the plague affected up to 60 percent of the population. People eat not only "lime leaves, heather, moss and chaff, but in some farms even cats, dogs and horse carrion." Comrades from the capital were forced to admit the fact of cannibalism: “In the village. Akopy… The wife of a poor man who went to work in the city, returned home and found her son Volodya dead, cut off the child's legs and boiled with sorrel. She ate sorrel herself and fed the second cub. The next day she and her second child died. "
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"8 чэрвеня 1933 г. сакратар ЦК КП(б)Б Мікалай Гікала і старшыня СНК БССР Мікалай Галадзед атрымалі сакрэтны ліст з Нараўлянскага раёна. Непісьменная пісулька на беларускай мове, у якой мясцовыя кіраўнікі скардзіліся на страшэнны голад у сваім раёне: “На гэтых днях (2 чэрвеня) меў мейсца з рада вон выходзячы факт: гр. в. Ціхін (Акопскага сельсавету) Сікорская ноччу зарэзала свайго 9-гадовага дзіцяці. Частку ўнутранасцей пасьпела паесьці, назаўтра ўтопіла другога дзіцяці і памерла сама ад істошчэньня”. Такі жудасны факт прыводзілі нараўлянскія начальнікі і слёзна заканчвалі сваё пасланне: “Без сур’ёзнай дапамогі рэспубліканскага цэнтру абысціся не зможам”.
"Такое ж бядотнае становішча было і ў суседнім Ельскім раёне, аб чым чэкісты рапартавалі ў Менск. У 200 сем’ях з 250 аднаасобных гаспадарак дзеці і дарослыя апухлі ад голаду, за два месяцы з-за схуднення памерла 20 чалавек. “Аднаасобнік хутара Рэдзька Калодзей Мікіта, каб не бачыць пакуты галоднай сям’і, запёр у хаце жонку і трох малалетніх дзяцей, забіў наглуха дзверы і вокны, пасля чаго сам некуды знік. Жонка і двое дзяцей Калодзея ўжо памерлі, аднаго малога выратавалі суседзі. У в.Меляшковічы ўдава Ціханава Ульяна з голаду кінула траіх дзяцей і сышла няведама куды”, - прыводзілі жудасныя прыклады чэкісты.
На Гомельшчыну з Менска выехала спецыяльная камісія для праверкі фактаў. 21 чэрвеня Бюро ЦК КП(б)Б занесла ў пратакол: у Ельскім і Нараўлянскім раёнах мор закрануў да 60 працэнтаў насельніцтва. Людзі ядуць не толькі “ліпавае лісце, верас, мох і мякіну, а ў некаторых гаспадарках нават катоў, сабак і конскую падаль”. Сталічныя таварышы вымушаны былі прызнаць факт канібалізму: “У в. Акопы… жонка бедняка, пайшоўшага на працу ў горад, вярнулася дадому і знайшла свайго сына Валодзю мёртвым, адрэзала ногі дзіцяці і зварыла са шчаўем. Паела шчаўя сама і пакарміла другое дзіцянё. Назаўтра памерла сама і другое дзіцё”.
The Jews you mean?
Coming back from school i wondered when jabsy will upload. Fair enough he did.
>inb4 tankies cope in the comments
It’s unfortunate that CZcams suppresses such important history
But why?
@@eybaza6018 why important or why is it surprised? It’s surprised to make it more advertiser friendly. People’s adds were getting put in ISIS videos and other things that they obviously objected to and that’s why they made it so strict. It’s important because it’s the deaths of millions that could have been easily avoided, like the Great Leap Forward, the killing fields in Cambodia, the famine in North Korea etc.
Who gives a fuck about Isis, they want to instate communism in the west, look at the media everything that is nationalistic, conservative or right on the political spectrum is censored, demonetized, or banned. Isis was the last of their concerns.
@@warmak4576 yeah I think you got it a little mixed up, they cracked down because of ISIS and losing advertising revenue from people pulling out and then later turned that into political censorship to a degree.
@@Laneperk1 the 'crack down' started before isis was even born.
Ukrainians were not the only ones targeted. Even more people starved because the Soviets took food during a famine to pay for industrialization.
And the main difference is that Ukrainians actually consider it a tragedy, while Russians don't give a rat's ass and love Stalin.
The famine was primarily targeted at Ukraine, Kuban (which was majority Ukrainian at the time), and the Volga regions. All of these areas had experienced uprisings and were targeted because of this.
@@rorymosley9356 there were three elements to the famine. The first was weather-based. The second was Stalin taking supposedly excess food to sell in international markets for capital to build factories. And the third was political repression. The famine was worse in the Ukraine because all three factors were in play there.
@@ronmaximilian6953 I wonder how a couple bags of potatoes, cabbage, and apples that my greatgrandparents had was considered "excess" and how it was sold on the international market? :) The squads didn't just took away the grain. They took everything (jams, pickles and other stuff people prepared for winter to eat). It looks to me like intentional starvation accompanied by the selling of grains that people managed to collect. The excesses of grain were taken away before and after 1933. Somethimes they were accompanied by bad weather. There was famine in Ukraine in the 1921-23 and in 1946-47, but they didn't have such devastating consequences (although many Ukrainians still died and the grain collection norms were especially high for Ukraine) because peasants were actually allowed to have save some food to support their lives and that's what helped them to survive until the next harvest. In 1933 they didn't survive because *all* food was taken away *intentinally* and *all ways to obtain it* (like leaving the village or excaping the country) *were blocked*
and even more starved cus the kulaks hoarded all of it
Inb4 the tankies arrive
Tankies give communist a bad name, noone hates tankies as much as communist do
@@catboynestormakhno2694 I think Communist give Communist a bad name.
@@catboynestormakhno2694 Nobody kills more communist than other communist, they are kinda weird and more sectarian than any religion.
@@huguesdepayens807 well at its core communism is about freedom and equality is the method to reach it, as in communistic thought freedom of a single person isnt wortv the non-freedom of the masses, for example under a communist system youd either directly controll how much and what should be produced in a council of workers, in your work place, or youd chose do elections for managers of that production team, communist dislike money as a concept as it removes an integral part of human networking in trade, as without money youll know the struggles of the man who raises the chicks who lay your eggs or the difficulty the guy who traded those eggs had to go through to get the material to get the material to trade the eggs, its something you notice when youre an artist as this kind of trade exist within artistic circles, but the common person lives without it and therefor lack an integral part of what it means to be human
This also leads to jobs that are severely underpaid and take a toll on people to deepere level such as construction worker, sewage cleaner, or to lesser degree doctor being paid more, as there wont be people who can get by through stuff like stockmarket speculation or owning buissnesses
@@kingoliever1 tankies*
Tankies be like: iT's CIA PrOpAgAnda
Nah, their explanation for this one is "iT'S NAZI ProPAgAndA.
@@ikengaspirit3063 Some of it literally is, though. While the Soviets were wrong to send in the military and made food shortages worse, the outright famine was caused by wealthy owners of industrial farms who slaughtered all of their livestock, torched their grain, sowed fields with salt, then fled the country purely out of spite. Many of them became Nazi collaborators working as translators and spies for the Third Reich. Goebbels then used some of their testimony to downplay what the Nazis were doing in Germany to minorities and Poland a decade later, saying the Judeo-Bolshevik Asiatic hordes would invade Germany and cause another Holodomor.
When learning about the Holodomor, make sure you're checking your sources. Jazby was good here that he used primary sources in the form of journals. Where you start to see Nazi propaganda is in books that haven't been peer-reviewed, where they may not have sources at all (or worse, David Irving).
@@nekrataali The reasons that you claim "outright caused" the famine make no sense whatsoever. It wasn't just wealthy boogeymen who slaughtered the livestock, every single person who owned a farm animal would do it at the time of collectivization because there was no reason not to. The choice was either you let the state take all your cattle + other animals and get nothing in return or you turn it all into sausage and keep it. As for the crop-torching and field-salting, I can find no information on this whatsoever, I can't imagine it happening on a scale large enough to "outright cause" a country-wide famine.
@@nekrataali They were still communists.
@@nekrataali Oh sure the collectivisation and other gouvernement policies didn't have anything to do with it... The rich Kulaks are to blame!!!!
THIS is why some ukrainians welcomed the germans as liberators
and the germans made the terrible mistake to kill them or enslave them. and not benefit from coopperation with them.
Many Ukranian and Polish people died during Holocaust despite having much more "arian features" than Hitler. Im Polish and my entire family are blonde/blue eyes. Thankfully my grandparents left Warsaw, Poland for Toronto, Canada before WW2.
The Holodmor was a Genocide!
Thank you for this video!
Notice that the most anti communist people are the people who actually lived under communism
Me when I don’t know the definition of genocide
This crime against humanity is not just sad but also not that well known which is the worst thing of all.
Even worse, there are still people trying to downplay or deny it, but I guess it's sadly the same as with other crimes against humanity.
@@Artur_M. sad but a common thing that a lot of us do like some denying that there is a genocide of Armenians back in ww1.
@@m.a.9571 I disagree mate. Theres definitely plenty of people that know this, and thankfully for the internet, everyone can now. Without the internet, you may not have known about this or so many other people.
@@Artur_M. actually people ignore how much more widespread it was, and that there were Western economic sanctions against the USSR at the time... nobody has the time to look at the original sources such as newspapers... they rely on propagandist to do the thinking for them. People are not gullible, they are just too busy to check the facts.
@@m.a.9571 There's a genocide right now, its called COVID. More people are dying from covid measures, and covid treatments than from covid itself...
The soviet union had such a large grain export that it wouldn’t even have had to stop exporting/import food. They could have just reduced the amount exported by 50% and that would have been enough to give sufficient rations to all of the affected regions with enough left over for wiggle room.
Stalin deliberately used the famine as an excuse to cripple the influence of the smaller republics within the USSR. The rations for the disproportionately russian urban areas in the affected areas were significantly higher than the non russian rural areas. This resulted in Kazakhstan and Ukraine having significant russian populations which helped to centralize power in Moscow.
A textbook genocide
Complete nonsense and a lie. The Soviets massively reduced grain exports from around 5 million tons in 1930 and 1931 (damn that collectivization with record harvests) to 1.8 mil tons in 1932 and *1.3 mil tons* in 1933. *The export was forbidden in March 1933 after the leadership was informed about the famine.*
Not to mention that they also imported grain, in hundred thousand tons every year and immediately ordered and imported additional grain from Manchuria, Persia and Canada after the information about famine arrived.
Stalin could simply not abandon nep and not continue collectivization. This would save countless lives but it would not allow him control all his slaves. Unfortunately.
@@simplicius11My grandpa's eight older brothers and sisters perished in the famine. When they came back, they found their land occupied by Russians. Before 1930's majority of Slavic settlers in northern Kazakhstan were Ukrainians, and during that they desperately declared themselves as Russian in order to get some rations.
@@simplicius11 Ah yes. Message from Kyiv to Moskow took 2 years. Even the Chinese ambassador to Persia in 2nd century BCE was faster than this lol.
And, Collectivization reduced harvests by 31% from the previous Lenin's reforms of redistributing land.
@@Neversa Today, the Russians that Stalin moved into the homes and villages of startedtodeath ukrainians are, in eastern Ukraine, still grateful to Stalin/Russia. The current conflict in eastern Ukraine due to Russian ethnics is a continuation of Stalin's Holodomor.
We must stand up to those who would do this again
Amen. And genocide deniers are their greatest allies.
hmmm
@@bidenator9760 Yes, like Great Britain, France, Germany and a bunch of other countries who didn't recognize the famine back then and continue to deny it now.
@@helendietrich7566 nobody denies that a famine happened, including we, comunists.
@@bidenator9760 genocide denier is a stupid word. It doesn't make sense
Currently listening to this while playing as the USSR in Hoi4.
Could you add subtitles please?
Curse you Stalin!
Lenin
This was outcome of revolution
@@eluilus4017 I mean it was Stalin that did this and Lenin was against him taking over the party.
@@promeneuzivotu117 bc he was possessed by devil demons.
Devil demons hate Stalin, they would win 2ww etc.
Yes, devil demons evil secret societies wanted Trotsky in there, not Stalin and no, Stalin didn't kill Trotsky, they did it themselves, they also killed Lenin and Stalin.
They also will kill your zelensky and want to kill Putin but they themselves did the 💩and continue doing evil, if they can. and no, you are not on innocent, angel in good mean, if you hate russians or Putin.
Victory for Russia and Putin in the name of Jesus Christ!
God's enemies devil demons their witchcraft deceptions lies plans deeds be cursesd failed stopped punished demolished canceled destroyed removed cut broken ended forbidden overthrown rebuked blocked bound beaten defeated themselves in the name of Jesus Christ!
Victory for god Russia Putin in the name of Jesus Christ!
99% of teenagers: I suPOrt soCIAlisM anD tHe USSr
When Americans do that its most disgusting because they never even lived near a country were they could experience bolshevism in action, except that 3rd world shithole the commies made out of the island of Kuba.
Send them to Poland and other former Soviet occupied countries to learn their history!
Socialism when its weaponized and militarized does not work.
This is also what to support Nazism, Therefore, Ukraine completely eliminated Nazi and communist parties and organizations
@@Dniprovskiy it confuses me so much why people would want to be a nazi (or a communist) in Ukraine... The uneducated are in their own little world..
great vid!
What is the music at the beginning?
Truly a horrific time for the Ukrainian people. What's more sad is that in the last 100 years it seems they haven't experienced much peace. My heart goes out to them
Yeah, I'm polish and I feel bad for our eastern brothers, my grandfather was from Ukraine but he was expelled and forced to move to Poland in 1945, he also witnessed the holodomor famine.
I hate juice
"What does it feel like to take human life?" - "I wouldn't know, I've only ever killed Communists." ― Rafał Gan-Ganowicz
Responding to genocidal dehumanisim with genocidal dehumanism
@@CalvinSouI See above.
@@CalvinSouI Communists forfeit their humanity.
@@CalvinSouI Whenever there is a thief, it is OK to kill him if he tries to steal your property. This is self defense.
The law applies to communists.
108 Soviet sympathizers disliked the video.
Dislikes are no longer shown, in the USSR the video watches you!
Wtf is a Soviet sympathizers 😂😂
Just scrolling through the comments to find someone arguing against this video.
7:15 i seen this picture on bestgore before
So depressing... Hard to watch because it's so heartbreaking. Such unnecessary suffering caused by Stalin and his murderous cronies.
Song name?
Ukrainian Famine is a well-known subject today , in the same time there are very few videos about Kazakhstan Famine which was maybe the most devastated of all Moscow- Marxist made Famines
Tell me More about it.
@@battleminefail99 The Kazakh famine of 1931-1933, also known as the Kazakh catastrophe, Asharshylyk and Zulmat[9] was a famine where 1.5 million (other sources state as many as 2.0-2.3 million[10]) people died in Soviet Kazakhstan, of whom 1.3 million were ethnic Kazakhs; 38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest percentage of any ethnic group killed in the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[3][7] Some historians assume that 42% of the entire Kazakh population died in the famine.[11]
The famine began in winter 1930, a full year before the great famine in Ukraine, with the height in the years 1931-1933.[12][7][13][14]
The famine made Kazakhs a minority in the Kazakh ASSR, caused by the massive amount of people who died or migrated, and not until the 1990s did Kazakhs become the largest group in Kazakhstan again. Before the famine, around 60% of the republic's population were Kazakhs, but only around 38% of the population were Kazakhs after the famine.[4][5][6][7]
The famine is seen by some scholars to belong to the wider history of collectivization in the Soviet Union and part of the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[13] Two thirds of the Kazakh survivors of the famine were successfully sedentarized due to the 80% reduction of their herds, the impossibility of resuming pastoral activity in the immediate post-famine environment, and the repatriation and resettlement program undertaken by Soviet authorities[15]. Kazakhstan's livestock and grain were largely acquired between 1929 and 1932, with one-third of the republic's cereals being requisitioned and more than 1 million tons confiscated in 1930 to provide food for the cities.
Some historians and scholars describe the famine as a genocide of the Kazakhs perpetrated by the Soviet state.[16] In Kazakhstan some studies repeated the Soviet explanation of the genocide, terming it as the Goloshchyokin genocide[17] (Kazakh: Goloshekındik genotsıd, Kazakh pronunciation: [ɡɐləˌʂʲokʲinˈdək ɡʲinɐˈt͡sɪt]) after Filipp Goloshchyokin to emphasize its man-made nature.[5] Goloshchyokin was the First Secretary of the Communist Party in the Kazakh ASSR and is also known as one of the primary perpetrators of the killing of the Romanov family.
I see russians with their alternative history in the comments, nice. Olgino never sleeps.
Mate. The entire video is based on some random memories of random people. It doesn't have any sources. This is not about history. History is a science. While the video is a piece of art.
@@user-qz8fq7hw8u "the entire video is based on some random memories by random people"
Literally the basis of every history.
What is history when you don't rely on the records of the memories of the people that were actually there?.
@@ikengaspirit3063 Memories could be used as a source, but it won't work if you use only memories. What the authors of this video have apparently done.
@@JK-oq9cl Tell this to the Russians. They have complete freedom to condemn the crimes of the Soviet regime against their people at any time and I will personaly fully support them.
@@Gildorkofc if you really separate Russians and Ukrainians in terms of this period of time - you should really do some research first.
The comparatively small ammount of views is... telling.
Same as England and what was done to Irish people. These countries who committed Mass genocide under guise of "famine" should be criminally prosecuted and held accountable!!! Better late than never, justice was never served these lives and the loss and immense suffering!!! They hung many from works war two crimes, I don't see how starving on Mass scale is unpunishable!!! The international courts have gone after far less, we demand accountability & justice!!!
And people still worship the creatures behind this crime against humanity and want to give it another go.
Can you do the Kazakh Genocide from Stalin? It was even worse than the Ukrainian one
Didn't the kazakhs also suffer from holodomor or was that separate
@@yesd2024 it was a seperate famine, which started almost a year before the Holodomor. The primary reason was the chaotic, almost criminal mismanagement of the economy by the communists. It is the worst famine in history, if we take into account the amount of people who died as a percentage of the population.
@@EuripidesTab13 we should remember both, not prioritize one over the other.
Today, the Russians that Stalin moved into the homes and villages of startedtodeath ukrainians are, in eastern Ukraine, still grateful to Stalin/Russia. The current conflict in eastern Ukraine due to Russian ethnics is a continuation of Stalin's Holodomor.
Ukrainian farmers used to eat for lunch, in the field: a shake including raw egg, wheat, (milk), honey. Protein, carbohydrates, milkfat. On holidays, Ukrainians eat softcooked barley sweetened with honey and poppyseeds. But then, HOLODOMOR happened, and many switched to eating dirt, bugs, bark, and human flesh. AMERICAN HOLODOMOR is now foreseeable. With predictions of constant 10 percent inflation, buying food for pantry will be best investment of money, driving people to empty store shelves even faster. Better to spend some $$$ now for stocking up on food to store, and buy guns and ammo to defend your food from BLM activists who will try to steal it or eat your flesh.
Who did this? Do you know?
Hmmmm what a nice and informative video I’m sure no one would try to deny this ever happened...
theres no denying it but people deny the kulaks' role in all of this
@@Jarmint Bro, "Kulaks" were killed or deported to Chelyabinsk-Magnitogorsk before 1931 December.
@@CoolMan-ig1ol Based. But the kulaks that stayed hoarded grain and contributed significantly to the starvation. Selfish bastards.
it was the kulaks and bad weather
The famine didn’t just happen in Ukraine though, it also happened in Southern Russia!
It happened in all russia
На тому півдні, де жили етнічні українці, як на кубані?
Genocide is cringe
how do we have 22 unlikes?
because its propaganda... it's not like the famine stopped at the boarder of "Ukraine"... it was a soviet wide famine... and in part the result of western sanction against the USSR. In other parts it was because of Internationalist communist social experiment. The framing is right wing propaganda.
@@zombieseezombiedo well considering the fact that the Soviets were actually exporting a lot of food, peasants couldn’t keep their own food that they grew, and that there seemed to be a large targeting of Ukraine, despite also occurring around the Soviet Union I’m going to wager that it’s not just right wing propaganda
@@zombieseezombiedo no one denied that soviet people had less food too, the accusation was that Stalin's government exported food in spite of that, probably just to make the country look prosperous, and targeted Ukraine, probably because they favored Russians. It's not like he personally went to Ukraine and gunned down millions of people, the damning part of the story is how little he cared about people. Also there's likely a measure of western cause to the initial famine, but see that's why I'm merely a socialist rather than a communist at this time, ideology isn't more important to me than human life
Ivans did it, stalinist and imperialists
@@zombieseezombiedo It wasn't a famine that affected only Ukraine, but the actions by the Soviets that made the Farmine worse were carried out almost exclusively in Ukraine (shipping food of starving peasants for exportation).
Rip 💞
Inb4 Tankies, commies, and Russian nationalists cope and seethe.
Why exactly would the Russians being nationalistic towards the Soviet Union?
@@kodylangham Not the good Russians. But its an ideological narrative developed by Putins government to see some kind of glorious national continuation from tsarism to Stalin and the "great patriotic war", to the USSR as a superpower to today. Thats why they still display soviet symbols and uniforms in parades. It makes no sense whatsoever from a rational standpoint. Its just a big emotional feel good myth in a country run by a former communist secret police officer...
@@CB-py1xh I admire the Russian people for the pride that they have in their country but I'll never understand why they feel patriotic towards a regime that killed millions of their own people and caused them so many problems that they still haven't recovered from 30 years after its collapse.
Cope over what ?
Guys I’m sorry
That's a great video, thank you, really outstanding, very rich in factual data! Of course there were terrible bursts of man-made famine in other Republics of Soviet Underworld (including in Russia). Just in case you guys don't read the title - this one is about UKRAINE.
@@JK-oq9cl subjective or objective - it's a matter of everyone's opinion. In my opinion this is true because you don't gain anything from making it up whatsoever, I mean those atrocities really happened (just like many other savage crimes under every single communist regime no matter the spot on the globe)
Ok. Why did they hold the grudge? what for? who mistreated them so that they supposedly had to nurse the grudge? did the socialist government treat them bad or those so called "kulaks" were just bad people because they didn't want to starve to death obediently in the villages encircled by NKVD units?? that's weird, to say the least.
@@JK-oq9cl got it, same capitalist states where CZcams was invented (not sure if morally or not quite morally but many communist fought capitalist McDonald's by devouring greedily those french fries, big Macs, pop corn, wearing those not quite communist jeans and so on and so forth. Conclusion: I believe that Holodomor was an unjustifiable genocide of innocent farmers and their families in the Ukraine. I know someone may disagree, I don't care, I'm not trying to convince anybody. Btw, thanx again to Jabzy for the brilliant video.
Well, actually, the other parts of Russia where hunger happened were Volga and Kuban regions where (surprisingly!) Ukrainians were the majority of population. Moreover, there were no such extreme measures as forecefully taking away any personal food (including basic staff that peasants grew in their gardens, like apples, cabbage etc.), closed borders, a ban on leaving villages, and freedom for NKVD to go to extreme measures to punish people or take away the food. Stalin had a personal hatred towards Ukrainians from the civil war and basically saw them all as "traitors". That belief also showed during the Second World War when Stalin often used Ukrainian citizens as "meat" against the Nazis.
@@JK-oq9cl you are a communist propagandist
That's a bit of nightmare that would question my self about history of Russia, specifically during Soviet Union period
holodomor genocide unleashed the unholy and evil spirit of a wendigo!
Do one of the great famine in Ireland or the one in India in 1943
*Millions die from famine*
15 year old Reddit Commies: "oh no! CIA something something!!!!"
Surprisingly the CIA is definitely not behind this one for once
Modern commies are the cia's biggest fans the way they go on about it.
The hell of Stalin's 5 year plans.
Do a video on the Bengal famine.
"Duh... but it wasn't real communism... derp... "
LOL, I hate when tankies use this defense 🤣🤣 It’s their best one
Good video. Now do you want about the bengal famine under British India. It killed between 2.1 and three million
Вічна пам'ять жертвам чорнобиля! 🕯️
Tankies gotta be seething in the comment section
She mentioned Kharkiv right now Putin's Army is shelling that city bombarding it to the ground, will the horrors humans inflict on each other ever end especially for Ukraine?
Why do you think they are fighting so hard.
@@chadgaston8615 The same reason you or I would, Kharkov or Kharkiv when the shells start coming you fire back it doesn't matter if you speak Russian or Ukrainian, it's a fight for survival at this point.
The Circles did this.
wat
this is an elaborate way of saying "the jewish" isn't it?
@@iMajoraGaming Yes
@@huguesdepayens807 f*ckin yikes bud
good job jabzy you gained a new audience today; the far-right
@@iMajoraGaming What, you don't believe me?
@@huguesdepayens807 i'm not going to entertain a brainlet, sorry my guy.
go back to /pol/.
Goddam Tankies, they are trying to overrun this comment section
Someone tried to convince me that the holodomor was not real. I refused to engage with her.
Yeah, nothing makes me hate Tankies and their Ideology more than things like this.
Stalin replaced all those killed by holodomor Ukrainians with Russian people and because of that actions now in Ukraine nearly 30 % of population is Russian people.
In this day and age Russia says (even in its history books that children learn) that all Ukrainian territorys are actually Russian. Moreover, Russian media says that in Ukraine Ukrainian people are oppresing Russian people (Which is not true, I am from Ukraine and I speak the Russian language) that's why all Ukrainian territorys or at least 2/3 of them should be Russian and all "Ukrainian nationalist" (people who speak Ukrainian) must be killed because they oppress Russian people who live in Ukraine and also Ukrainian people are trying to enter EU and NATO and be friends with USA (According to Russian media USA is an evil enemy that uses climate weapons against Russia and also wants to hurt Russian people)
I am from Ukraine and I just want to live in peace.
BTW. Russia deny the fact that there was holodomor. In their history books children learn that it just was bad harvest and Soviet government were give food to Ukrainian people.
Are you looking forward to _the Great Reset?_
What could possibly go wrong?
You will own nothing and be happy. Can't wait.
@@sharischoll9411 Wow! You're telling me I won't have to own a house or food anymore? Splendid! You're saying I won't have to be healthy or happy? Amazing.
The great leap forward more like the great backflip.
Irish genocide by the brits 1845, do this one please.
Question - if it was a "genocide", then why in 1932 the USSR began a mass purchase of grain and organized a humanitarian mission to Ukraine to supply the population? And if this is the "genocide of Ukrainians", then why did the famine hit ALL regions of the USSR, reaching Siberia?
Idk about you, but I don't think that ever happened... If it did, then they probably only fed a few Ukrainians, and said "Yep, that'll keep them alive!"
@@TypicalUkraine_ I'm sorry to upset you, but the information is publicly available. Just type in "The actions of the Soviet government during the famine of 1932-33", it's not that difficult. There you will learn about such horrors as a complete halt to grain exports, the start of imports, the organization of food outlets in famine-stricken villages and a request for international mutual assistance.
Get educated.
@@TypicalUkraine_ Oh, and if you find it in the process - throw me the names of the documents confirming the planning of a famine in Ukraine with the aim of exterminating the population, if it's not difficult for you.
@@user-xl2it6wg1lFound the communist sympathizer trying to excuse the holodomor.
Need subtitle.
Soy allert in comments
Holol moment
Your buddies in Russia aren't laughing now, eh.
@@chadgaston8615 Nope, they're winning
@@donjeremias4240 they're winning in gaining enemies
Hunger was everywhere not only in Ukraine.
They burned their own crops and slaughtered their own cattle when whole of soviet was struck with famine.WTF
Hunger was everywhere... because the soviets were exporting food in order to cause a famine. Fixed
@@m.streicher8286 Did the Soviets also export food from Poland ?
mhhhhhhhhhhhh.....russia
You only cover history unbiased
How on earth could you be demonetized
not 'ukrainian genocide' plenty of russians and kazakhs died too. it is disrespectful to call it that.
ivan, go back to your TV.ru
@@Adam.G.Trapper ? you're being a bit of a dipshit to the millions of non ukrainians that died.
Funnily enough, ivan is also a very common ukrainian name.
@@konplayz Ivan , you are a troll. but you are partly right , you starved to death not only Ukrainians, but all your colonial subject suffered enormously, thats why we hate you so much today , all your neighboring states are hating you , and you know it )))
@@konplayz The Kazakh famine of 1931-1933, also known as the Kazakh catastrophe, was a famine where 1.5 million (other sources state as many as 2.0-2.3 million) people died in Soviet Kazakhstan, of whom 1.3 million were ethnic Kazakhs; 38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest percentage of any ethnic group killed in the Soviet famine of 1932-33.Some historians assume that 42% of the entire Kazakh population died in the famine. The famine began in winter 1930, a full year before the great famine in Ukraine, with the height in the years 1931-1933. The famine made Kazakhs a minority in the Kazakh ASSR, caused by the massive amount of people who died or migrated, and not until the 1990s did Kazakhs become the largest group in Kazakhstan again. Before the famine, around 60% of the republic's population were Kazakhs, but only around 38% of the population were Kazakhs after the famine.[4][5][6][7]
The famine is seen by some scholars to belong to the wider history of collectivization in the Soviet Union and part of the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[13] Two thirds of the Kazakh survivors of the famine were successfully sedentarized due to the 80% reduction of their herds, the impossibility of resuming pastoral activity in the immediate post-famine environment, and the repatriation and resettlement program undertaken by Soviet authorities[15]. Kazakhstan's livestock and grain were largely acquired between 1929 and 1932, with one-third of the republic's cereals being requisitioned and more than 1 million tons confiscated in 1930 to provide food for the cities.
Some historians and scholars describe the famine as a genocide of the Kazakhs perpetrated by the Soviet state.[16] In Kazakhstan some studies repeated the Soviet explanation of the genocide, terming it as the Goloshchyokin genocide[17] (Kazakh: Goloshekındik genotsıd, Kazakh pronunciation: [ɡɐləˌʂʲokʲinˈdək ɡʲinɐˈt͡sɪt]) after Filipp Goloshchyokin to emphasize its man-made nature.[5] Goloshchyokin was the First Secretary of the Communist Party in the Kazakh ASSR and is also known as one of the primary perpetrators of the killing of the Romanov family.
@@Adam.G.Trapper you need your pills man, you’re a lunatic.
most states that russia borders have friendly relations with them :)))
I am not russian, you are looking for some weird argument with some putin supporter, but you have come to the wrong place.
Reminds me of the haulocaust
The Kazakh famine of 1931-1933, also known as the Kazakh catastrophe, Asharshylyk and Zulmat[9] was a famine where 1.5 million (other sources state as many as 2.0-2.3 million[10]) people died in Soviet Kazakhstan, of whom 1.3 million were ethnic Kazakhs; 38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest percentage of any ethnic group killed in the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[3][7] Some historians assume that 42% of the entire Kazakh population died in the famine.[11]
The famine began in winter 1930, a full year before the great famine in Ukraine, with the height in the years 1931-1933.[12][7][13][14]
The famine made Kazakhs a minority in the Kazakh ASSR, caused by the massive amount of people who died or migrated, and not until the 1990s did Kazakhs become the largest group in Kazakhstan again. Before the famine, around 60% of the republic's population were Kazakhs, but only around 38% of the population were Kazakhs after the famine.[4][5][6][7]
The famine is seen by some scholars to belong to the wider history of collectivization in the Soviet Union and part of the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[13] Two thirds of the Kazakh survivors of the famine were successfully sedentarized due to the 80% reduction of their herds, the impossibility of resuming pastoral activity in the immediate post-famine environment, and the repatriation and resettlement program undertaken by Soviet authorities[15]. Kazakhstan's livestock and grain were largely acquired between 1929 and 1932, with one-third of the republic's cereals being requisitioned and more than 1 million tons confiscated in 1930 to provide food for the cities.
Some historians and scholars describe the famine as a genocide of the Kazakhs perpetrated by the Soviet state.[16] In Kazakhstan some studies repeated the Soviet explanation of the genocide, terming it as the Goloshchyokin genocide[17] (Kazakh: Goloshekındik genotsıd, Kazakh pronunciation: [ɡɐləˌʂʲokʲinˈdək ɡʲinɐˈt͡sɪt]) after Filipp Goloshchyokin to emphasize its man-made nature.[5] Goloshchyokin was the First Secretary of the Communist Party in the Kazakh ASSR and is also known as one of the primary perpetrators of the killing of the Romanov family.
Holodomor actually happened though
@@jakemocci3953 maybe I'm paranoid but are you denying the holocaust ?
Themistocle stratège why is it illegal to question it? How were there more jews at the end of WW2 than the start?
@Three Emperors that must have been trully abominable.
I blame it all on the Industral revolution tho.
sources pls
This is what I don't understand about tankies. Why do YOU have to defend USSR. Like yeah some of the social services were good but that ain't gonna help much if yo dead is it? Even in Moscow, my dad would tell me stories where the grocery store was just empty. Like I'm a socialist but I don't defend USSR so why do you?
I feel like the voice acting was unnecessary
6million?
What about the millions of ukrainians? 🤔
Ukraine not the Ukraine, please.
can smell r/genzedong users from here
Good old Communism
Oy vey!
Gentlemen, let's not be antisemitic here...
Jews had nothing to do with this
@@jonathanwilliams1065
Unfortunately, some imbeciles in the comments section seem to think that they do, simply because Lazar Kaganovich (who was responsible for the Holodomor) was an ethnic Jew.
@@Thecognoscenti_1 that's there goals, to pervert the memory of the victims for a cheap political point
Even though half of the Communist Party was made of Jews
Got to be honest, I prefer your old style of video.
It’s an absolute shame that we (the US) weren’t able to do more to assist the White Russians during the Russian Civil War. Stalin was an absolute monster, on par with Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot.
Unlike Hitler, Mao and Stalin never put millions in death camps to be executed due to their racial category.
@@slickrick2420 no, he just killed everyone that wasn’t communist enough for him! The communists have killed more people than the nazis in the name of their political ideology. But I guess the fact that Stalin and Mao were equal opportunity butchers somehow makes them better?
@@slickrick2420 nah, he just summarily executed people on a whim, and sent scores to gulags. What friggin world are you living in?
@@codybailey855 The Tsar also killed and sent massive amounts of people to gulags. Why doesn't your list include him? Or Churchill, who genocided millions of Bengalis through starvation?
@@slickrick2420 I’m happy to add them to the list if that is indeed the case. What I cannot abide, is a Stalin apologist. It’s very telling when Lenin, Trotsky, and later Kruschev had major issues with Stalin.
The Ukrainian Holocaust
Hunger was everywhere
wtf, that was horrible so sad slavs had to go through that
The Bolsheviks were the greatest criminals of the 20th century, at least the Nazis didn't last more than 15 years, but the soviets were there for more than 70, they destroyed every nation they ruled, and specially Russia, they were their first victim, it's sad how the russian people were the ones that suffered the most (in total terms) but many still praise Stalin and Lenin, at least other nationalities had already realized and kicked out the soviet iconography and honours, Lenin deprived Russia from its future, the nation of Pushkin, of Dostoevsky, of Tolstoy, of Tchaikovsky, of Mendeleev, the great russian nation was dismembered, and now Russia is just souless and its people hopeless, while the oligarchs, the same that 30 years ago were members of the Communist Party or the KGB, rape the country and take all their money to Britain or Switzerland. In 1913 Russia was to become what China is now, as Stolypin said, 'Give this country 20 years of peace and you'll not recognize it', sadly, Russia never had such peace.
I do not agree on the expense of the destruction of peoples. As for me, no one lived worse than the Russian people, not counting the deportation (of Chechens and Crimean Tatars for collaborating with the Nazis, and I think they were still lucky) of peoples after the war. And at the same time, the Russian people subsidized the development of national minorities and the entire economy of a huge empire, vice versa. Also, everyone forgets that for almost the entire 70-year period, the Soviet Union was ruled by various clans from the republics. First a Jew, then a Georgian dictator, then the Dnepropetrovsk clique of Khrushchev and Brezhnev up to the incompetent Russian Gorbachev. At the expense of love for Stalin and Lenin (according to Lenin, not exactly as you say), there are differences and peculiarities why this happens. By itself, the attitude towards Lenin is critical due to alleged ties with Germany, as well as in unleashing the Civil War with the subsequent separation of some territories. Yes, and Putin constantly criticizes him for the “bomb” (in the form of poorly cut republics) planted under Russia, which exploded in 1991. Whereas according to Stalin it is completely different, here the main factor is that he became a symbol of “strong” power and victory in the Great Patriotic War. Usually a positive attitude towards Stalin in Russian society is among the elderly and "boomers", and of course there are occasionally among the young, but this is influenced by mild re-Sovietization in Putin's Russia. This is explained by the fact that we are against the destruction of history, even if it refers to such controversial personalities as Stalin, Ivan the Terrible, and so on.
The “Holodomor was a foreseeable byproduct of the collectivization campaign, but not an international murder. He needed the peasants to produce more grain and to export the grain to buy the industrial machinery for the industrialization. - Stephen Kotkin
When one famine discredits communism yet the ongoing famines in 21rst century Africa don’t discredit capitalism
Theocratic Socialism is best ideoology
First of all there is certainly more than one famine attributed to socialism(Great leap forward)
Second most African countries are not capitalist.
Third the idea is not how many famines(tragedies in general) can be attributed to a particular economic system but which one causes it more frequently. Argue against that if you can.
I do hope you realize half those country's have really extreme market restrictions and extremely corrupt goverments
@@nikkity5491 Do you realize that in the same time there was a famine in the US but not because of a lack of food. The food was destroyed, burned and thrown in the rivers and the ocean.
Most of those African countries are far from capitalist
The most infamous was in communist Ethiopia
Even today most of these countries have massive amounts of regulation that stifle innovation and entrepreneurship
And communism has caused many famines, such as the Great Leap Forward in China
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@@hisoka2838 and?
Yeah, I get why they don't want to be part of Russia.
I will say such a banality. USSR is not equal to Russia. The USSR was a great evil for the Russian people in terms of splitting into national republics and contributing to demographic problems in the long term. For me, Ukraine, like Belarus, is an integral part of historical Russia. And I care little about the opinion of anti-Russian nationalists in Ukraine.
Holhols say the darnedest things
of for fuck sake....
Horrible to see people embracing socialism now days and expecting a different result. The very defenition of insanity.
@@JK-oq9cl so the ends justify the means? That kind of thinking brings people like Mao, Stalin, Mussolini, Tojo and Hitler.
Sure they presided over perceived advancement, but had to pay for it with theft, murder and aggressive war. Socialism is great, until you run out of other people's money.
I suggest you take a look at the Gulag Archipelago, it is a great book from Fyodor Dostoevsky. A surviver of the horror's of the NKVD and Stalin's purge.
@@JK-oq9cl if the ends justify the means, then you can defend any kind of action like genocide as long as it is for some vague greater good. Theft, murder and lies are still wrong.
(Example), the us government sought to stretch the USA from sea to sea in manifest destiny. A worthy goal, but had a horrible habit of breaking treaties and forcing integrated tribes like the Cherokee from there legally recognized land under democrat president Andrew Jackson.
From your argument. Any form of murder and theft is fine as long as it is in the pursuit of a unattainable utopia.
And why not call Stalin and Mao socialist? They called themselves as such as well as communist interchangeably. There policies are straight from the playbook of Karl Marx and Friedrick Engles who interestingly enough fled imperial Germany to avoid suppression and set up shop in the capitalistic British Empire.
Even the ramblings of Adolf Hitler prescribed socialism as the blueprint of both his government and the Soviets. But with his own Germanic version somehow being superior to the "Bolshevik menace" he mentions.
Again I suggest you pick up the Gulag Acapelligo and take and hard look at the policies of all of the socialist nations especially during the turmoltus Inter-War years.
@@JK-oq9cl Read the Gulag Archipelago, Karl Marx and research the policies like Mao's Great Leap Forward, Hitler's Lebansraum and the Soviets Virgin Lands Campaign.
All are just small facets of the same socialist dogma.
You should look more at the actions people take and judge that against what they say. You will find it a very telling experience.
@@shotsfiredgaming6924 gulag archipelago was a fictional book and no historian takes it seriously
@@JK-oq9cl Russia was already a Rival of the British and were already industralizing.
Goddammit, as a Russian speaking person it's so hard to listen through this girl's awfully thick accent. It sounds cartoonish and silly, ahahaha
Ivan, The Kazakh famine of 1931-1933, also known as the Kazakh catastrophe, was a famine where 1.5 million (other sources state as many as 2.0-2.3 million[10]) people died in Soviet Kazakhstan, of whom 1.3 million were ethnic Kazakhs; 38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest percentage of any ethnic group killed in the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[3][7] Some historians assume that 42% of the entire Kazakh population died in the famine.[11]
The famine began in winter 1930, a full year before the great famine in Ukraine, with the height in the years 1931-1933.[12][7][13][14]
The famine made Kazakhs a minority in the Kazakh ASSR, caused by the massive amount of people who died or migrated, and not until the 1990s did Kazakhs become the largest group in Kazakhstan again. Before the famine, around 60% of the republic's population were Kazakhs, but only around 38% of the population were Kazakhs after the famine.[4][5][6][7]
The famine is seen by some scholars to belong to the wider history of collectivization in the Soviet Union and part of the Soviet famine of 1932-33.[13] Two thirds of the Kazakh survivors of the famine were successfully sedentarized due to the 80% reduction of their herds, the impossibility of resuming pastoral activity in the immediate post-famine environment, and the repatriation and resettlement program undertaken by Soviet authorities[15]. Kazakhstan's livestock and grain were largely acquired between 1929 and 1932, with one-third of the republic's cereals being requisitioned and more than 1 million tons confiscated in 1930 to provide food for the cities.
Some historians and scholars describe the famine as a genocide of the Kazakhs perpetrated by the Soviet state.[16] In Kazakhstan some studies repeated the Soviet explanation of the genocide, terming it as the Goloshchyokin genocide[17] (Kazakh: Goloshekındik genotsıd, Kazakh pronunciation: [ɡɐləˌʂʲokʲinˈdək ɡʲinɐˈt͡sɪt]) after Filipp Goloshchyokin to emphasize its man-made nature.[5] Goloshchyokin was the First Secretary of the Communist Party in the Kazakh ASSR and is also known as one of the primary perpetrators of the killing of the Romanov family.
Notice all the Russian people defending the USSR In the comments
Nope. I personally say that we are victims too, but because everyone puts equal between russian and comunist it is always russians who are blamed for every atrocity committed by reds
@@consortiumxd5934 victims in what... Yes the famine occurred nationally but they specifically made Ukraine's worse, and diverted its own domestic production to feed YALL
@@vetabeta9890 victims of genocide made by communist. German collaborationists were agitating for surrender almost since the beginning of great war. After they overthrew government they began slaughtering everyone who was against new rule. Civil war took more lives than world war. Economy was in ruins so they tried to end it with collectivization. At first didn’t work but stalin still returned to this idea because it would give hime ideal control over his new serfs to feed his workers-slaves for eventual world revolution. Another socialist forced him to waste too much resources on war so he had to put his world conquest plans on shelf. In 1914 there was almost same amount of people who identified themselves as russians as now. Most of red army solders during war were russians, the lowes wages and harshest colhozes conditions were in russian part of the soviet union (except moscow and some closed or special cities) ukrainian ssr was enlarged several times as well as most of others ethnic republics, to weaken potential russian rebelion on one side and to have more professional people to develop regions. Frightened rightless minorities in several alien countries, some of them literally slaughtered their russian population after independence, some are just oppressing noncitizen, unbelivers, ocupants and etc. During revolution reds used foreign mercenaries or just bandits to spread terror to people. Finnish baltic jewish caucasian tartar chinese german polish were used by lenin to end great russian jingoism. How? By murder rape and robbery. Soviet union was created to destroy russian state and enslave russians to bring comunism and rainbows to better human species like germans. Russians were meant to be expendable, like wood to set the world on fire.
@@vetabeta9890 Fallacy. You are using false equivalency.... You are confusing the Soviet/Russian government for the people.
Avoid such single-mindedness. Quite a lot of the people of Russian suffered under communist rule.
@@Joe-- the soviet government favored Russians in this genocide though
OY VEY THIS IS ANTISEMITIC
Ivan, go back to your Tv.ru
No it isn't.
Oy vey
No it’s not you stupid Nazi
The people who did this were atheists, some had Jewish ancestry and others didn’t
@@jonathanwilliams1065 ok Mr williamstein
True communism has never been tried...
@@JK-oq9cl but it is though. Life expectancy wages have all risen
@The Soviet it's literally just data, you don't even have to read any articles, just look at the gdp per capita and life expectancy growth in Gulf States, thailand, south korea, etc. and then compare by yourself to the growth of communist states like cambodia, laos, North Korea etc. China and Vietnam have experienced good growth but they also have adopted capitalist practices, and suffered large famines, instability, slow growth, and stagnating life standards before opening up.
@@JK-oq9cl South Africa is under a communist government, due to the useless state banning private sectors from certain areas of the economy, such as providing electricity, WE ARE EXPERIENCING BLACKOUTS! We ran out of water, our national healthcare system has stagnated hard. Our healthcare workers are god tier...but the system is fucked. Our old faccist government had working systems in place, even if it were for the minority white populace, the average black citizen was safer back then, had enough food, had work, had the ability to provide to their family. They may have been capped as to their freedom, but they werent murdered and raped everyday like they are under our communist government, the white minorities werent raped and murdered like today either. Our streets were clean, things worked...yet 'capitalism is to blame'
@@moonstryder1740 wondering when the 1940s Germans would show up.
@@theknightofbadassness301 Typical commie, just lable anyone who doesnt agree with you as facist or racist and you've won the argument.
We should have defeated Russia at the end of WWII. The sad truth is more of their people would be happier, healthier and have food/clean water.
Can you do a video on the German imperialist invention of this “ukraine”?
It is complicated question. And first inventors of ukraine and ruthinia were poles. They tried to separate independent russian state and occupied western russian lands
@@consortiumxd5934 After the Mongols withdrew from Europe, the only region taken directly by Poland was the region of Lwów. All the rest of nowadays Ukraine, together with Belarus, was taken not by Poland but by Lithuania: before the polish-lithuanian union even became a thing. Eventually it was indeed Poland the one who started running the show, but simply because the noblemen of other ethnicities started polonising themselves due to being adored by polish culture.
Poles did not create any Ukraine. It was simply a name for the region in general. The ukrainian nationality was born out of the Cossacks. Before Mongols started invading Europe, they had previously conquered numerous asiatic tribes whom they joined into mongol hordes. And although the Mongols eventually withdrew from Europe, some of mentioned asiatic tribes stayed in Eastern Europe as the Crimean Tatars. They were brutal tribes and they became a vassal state to the Ottoman Empire. The Crimean Tatars were making the regular raids to catch christian people into slavery, to sell them to a slave market in the Ottoman Empire. What does it have to do with Ukraine? A lot of peasants from Ukraine didn't want to work in the fields for nobility, and they were running into the so called Wild Fields, where they started forming themselves into the paramilitary militia to protect themselves from the Tatars. And that's how the cossack society was formed. The modern ukrainian nationality basically based itself on the myth of free Cossacks.
@@JohnSmith-zs9vr that is true, but devil hides in details. Lithuania united with several principalities and subjugated others. Yes poland united with lithuania peacefully. But after some time russian orthodox people began losing their rights. Not to full segregation but still orthodox people were never favored in courts. In universities young people were forced to convert. When same things happened later to poles they became victims in eyes of all world. Wester russians were forced to live under such conditions for centuries. Ruthinian identity was formed under polish rule to devide our people. Nobility was encouraged to assimilate into polish state and as compromise they invented new identity. As equals they were not seen by poles and orthodox russians were seen as barbarians, brute ( bidlo in polish language).
There is huge difference between Cossacks and ukrainians. May be ukrainian state really have such position but cossacks always were by themselves. They were nomads, bandits, even pirates but in the same time they called themselves litsari or knights. They had their own rich culture. Eventually most of the most organized groups decided to join russia. Eventually cossacks spread from wetern steppes to all russian lands. There are still many of them all around modern russia. You just simply can’t say that ukrainians are cossacks. Modern ukrainians were invented in the most western part of modern state. In austrian part.
Funny fact. In russian we call ukrainian person, hohol, which means bang (hairstyle). This name was given by cossacks. They worn unique hairstyle that you saw if you saw any cossack. It was called chub. And cossack were simply mocking their peasant neighbors who tried to copy their hairstyle. Through centuries this mocking stayed to describe badly educated peasants who spoke very bad russopolish dialect of russian. With help of some authors and mostly soviet linguists this nonsense turned into ukrainian and belorussian languages. Russian changed much too so even in the beginning of 20th century russian sounded and was written with much more similarities with these so called “languages”
@@consortiumxd5934 Your claims about religious persecutions are wrong. The Commonwealth had a religious tolerance, guaranteed by the Warsaw Confederation from 1573.
There was a phrase "bydło", but it was used simply towards peasants, regardless of their ethnicity. The Commonwealth's noblemen, including the ruthenian ones, saw themselves as the elite and that they are the ones to whom the country belongs. And they saw themselves as equals regardless of religion. One of ruthenian magnates, Konstanty Ostrogski (he kept his orthodox religion), was the commander who led the polish-lithuanian forces to victory over Moscow in the battle of Orsha 1514. And the biggest enemy of the Cossacks was another polonised Ruthenian, Jeremi "Jarema" Wiśniowiecki. In fact his son, Michał Korybut Wiśniowiecki, was later elected as a king.
The Cossacks used to rebel against the Commonwealth, and when they started losing their biggest rebellion, they indeed asked for unification with Russia by the Treaty of Pereyaslav 1654. But it was rather "Let's bring the destruction upon the Commonwealth", rather than "We love Russia". The Cossacks didn't care about unification with Russia, all they cared about was to bring some foreign invasion. In fact the Cossacks from those of regions which the Commonwealth managed to keep... did later the whole thing all over again with the Ottoman Empire, when Petro Doroshenko pledged his loyalty towards the Ottomans in 1668 and asked for the ottoman invasion of the Commonwealth. And those of Cossacks who found themselves under Moscow's rule, twice tried for alliance with Sweden against Russia. After the Russians struck in 1654 at the Polish-Lithuanian Commwealth, the Swedes used this occasion to make their own invasion during which the Swedes overrun almost half of the Commonwealth. Eventually the Commonwealth pushed the Swedes out and the conflict went back to being simply the polish-russian war. But while the Swedes were still in this conflict, the Cossacks tried to form an alliance with Sweden to form a cossack state independent from Russia (Treaty of Radnot 1656). Didn't work out, because as mentioned, the Swedes were banished out and the conflict went back to being just the polish-russian war. But few decades later Sweden and Russia fight each other in the Great Northern War 1700-1721, during which the Cossacks of Ivan Mazepa invite the Swedes to russian Ukraine, in hopes to get swedish help to form an independent cossack state.