Marlin 1894 CST - Midwest Industries Hand Guard Installation
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- Hey guys! In this episode we take you through the installation of the Midwest Industries M-Lok Hand Guard for Marlin rifles.
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This was super helpful, thank you!
Welcome! I'm glad it helped out. Thanks for watching!!
Something weird about CZcamsrs commenting in CZcamsrs comments
Very well presented and articulated as always!!!
Thanks so much!!
Very helpful - the tape trick for the washers was great. Thank you!
Enjoyed this video and also the reasoning behind it very well articulated. Great homestead tool
Thanks so much!
That black handguard against the stainless barrel/mag tube is just a complementary or sick match. Well done. Very trick looking! I’m impressed. Peace Be The Journey!
Great video, the idea of using the tape to put the washers in was very helpful.
Thanks! It definitely makes the install go much smoother.
Just subscribed. Love how you do your videos without loud music, dancing clowns etc. Keep the great videos coming 😁
Thanks so much!! Will do our best to keep it like it is. However...I'd never thought of a dancing clown...now I want one...hahaha
Just used this video for my MI handguard on my 1894 dark, great video sir!
Thanks so much!! Glad it helped!
Just found your channel, huge GP100 fan here. I will be wanting to suppress some .38s once my form 4s come back. This rifle has to be the next addition. Thanks for giving it so much love, learning lots from you!
You're welcome & thanks for watching!!
Putting one on my Dark 45/70 next week..... great vid.... many thanks
Welcome! Awesome, you’ll love it. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. Used it while putting mine on. Also put in the RP follower in while it was out.
Welcome! Awesome I’m glad it helped out. Thanks for watching!!
Found your channel just recently. I really enjoy watching your professional filmed videos, keep up the excellent work. Greetings from a Marlin 1895 45-70 owner in Germany.
Thanks so much!! Really appreciate your compliments. We just posted a new video going over my 1895 hunting rig that you may enjoy as well. Thanks again!!
Loved the video. Just liked and subscribed
Thanks so much! Lots to come!
I made up my mind that I have to start limiting my gun purchases but the Marlin CST 357 is one that I HAVE TO have. It will be my next gun buy. I was hoping the prices would come down a bit. I love the RPP stuff you have added although I don't care for the rail. I'm not crazy about the bed-liner paint either so I will probably just refinish the wood or buy some custom stocks. Marlin told me they were basically the same as the 336 wood.
Haha That's how I felt! Once I saw it, I had to eventually get one. The rail is definitely a love it or hate addition. I do really love a traditional lever gun, but with this being a tool for the property I felt the rail would be good addition. I can see a nice laminate stock set on here, man that would be nice! Sorry I'm helping you spend your money, haha, but best of luck! Thanks for watching!
I like it. I have hunted with a Winchester .30 .30 and my Grandfather's Winchester .35 rem. For years and I just wish this hand rail was available years ago.
That’s a pretty slick looking mod. Taking weight away from the rifle while adding usability.
Thanks!
Thanx,
Welcome!
Great video! I am ready to purchase that exact set up. Thank you for the information....hero status!
Thanks so much! Glad it was helpful!
i used to hate this thing but the red dot mount they came out for it is the best solution on the market
They really can be very practical for today's needs and technology.
I put one on my 45-70 a few months ago 👍
Nice!
Great instruction videos! I did not realize you can modify Marlins and other lever actions such as Henry almost like an AR-15. I am sold! Getting a Marlin so I can upgrade and modify parts lika an AR-15. As much as I would love to get an AR, I can't since it is illegal here in New York City. Keep up the great videos! I am a subscriber now.
Thanks so much!! Yep, there are some great options out there that are very helpful to those who live in restricted states. When loaded properly, a .357 mag can give you EXCELLENT results and be used as a home defense rifle without worry. Check out our .357 vs. Boston Butts video using Underwood ammo: czcams.com/video/wB_-BADIXyc/video.html
It shows just how viable the .357 can be. Thanks so much for subscribing!! LOTS more content coming as we can work it in!
Keep at it brother👍, thats a hell of alot easier than a henry. Got to take the entire gun apart to put that on a henry.
Thanks man! Yeah, I hear the Henry's can be a real pain, haha.
Don’t understand how one could be intimidated by an AR but not a lever action rifle, obviously several differences but if someone is comfortable with one then in a very short amount of training they should be equally comfortable with the other.
Otherwise, thank you very much for the videos, very thorough and informative series of videos on the Marlin! Watching your channel, along with 2-3 other CZcams channels have convinced me that a Marlin 336 and hopefully 1895 will be a couple future purchases. Also, RP & Midwest Industries should give you some nice perks as I am sure you’ve earned them plenty of money over this last year or so.
Glad you've enjoyed the series! LOL I gotta say, RPP and Midwest both make some great parts!
Very helpful thank you very much sending love from aus
Welcome! Glad you found it helpful 👍
Nice video. I personally like m lok over any other system out there. And yes this rifle looks better with this hand guard.
Thanks!
Definitely put one on the 45-70! It would be cool to see a tactical one for your homesteading needs! Always a fun channel with awesome reviews. Hope your building is fun, me personally I can’t stand building with my wife lol.
Lol thanks man! It’s definitely a learning experience
Another mod for serious consideration. Especially on a Marlin Dark. As noted already pigs are a concerning problem for land owners here in Queensland. Once it all comes together I will have a purpose built hog cannon for the short range situations where a large bore lever and red dot combo dominates other weapon configurations short of
semi-automatic actions. A light mounted forward of the usual grip position on the fore end will be excellent (as you suggested) for night time use. Enjoyable and informative video thank you. May I suggest an a video with some advice mounting scopes on weaver/picatinny rails as this is a job I am yet to undertake for my new weapon build. Cheers.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! As a matter of fact, we will be installing an XS rail on it, as well as a Riton Optics X3 Red Dot :) We'll be doing all of this soon hopefully. Also, I'll be doing a video on my 1895SBL hunting setup this week (if all goes as planned) and talk about my scope setup and why I went with it. Thanks so much for watching! Best of luck with your Dark series!!
Great communication, Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Thank you so much!! You’re welcome
Nice looking shooter. Regarding VC3 use, pretty sure you're supposed to let it dry on the threads after application and before installation
Thanks so much! And thanks for the tip!
I'm about to pick up the new dark series 336. This will be the first addition!
Nice! You'll enjoy that rifle for sure!
Did you put it on yet? I also picking up a dark, do we need the extra part for that model or just the stock m-lok works?
I'm an ol school lever gun dude who is warming up to this style. I'm not ruining any of mine to make one, but I might buy one.
Lol it took me a bit to convert over, but I do enjoy it. Still love my classics too though!
To hold the washer you can use a small drop of locktight or heavy sticky grease in stead of tape. If u are a computer nerd cpu heat sink grease, this will transfer more heat away from the barrel👍 Ever little bit helps 🤣
Lol nice
Good video mate. Is there any chance of making a video with installing the MI adapter for other models ie. 336
Thanks! I'm currently working on a 30-30 build series on here as well. We may have something pretty interesting coming up for that handguard :)
Great video, I’m going to pick one up. Does the hand guard come with the washers?
Thanks so much!! Yes it comes with washers.
Is there a m lock for savage99 ? Thats a beauty . Id love to fit one on my savage 99 or lee enfield no1mk3*. That would be cool.
Not that I know of
I have a 336y that im looking to pretty up with that particular m-lok system.
Any particular extra steps to consider since its offered with a barrel band adapter?
From what I’ve seen you have to buy an additional part per Midwest Industries, MI-MAR336A. Good luck!
Did you ever figure out if this m-lok handguard works with the 336y?
@@MushyMags808 it does, Midwest industries sells an adapter that fits with the handguard specifically for the 336y.
I recently added this hand guard, now my mag tube is completely covered by the handguard which looks nice. I was wondering of you know of an extended magazine my barrel is significantly longer than the one in the video. Thx
There are longer tubes, but they won't work on a shorter rifle because of the stud that holds them to the barrel. It protrudes through the mag tube and would block the spring from functioning.
I was wondering if you could do a install video of the Midwest industries extended sight system handguard on a 1895, I have the dark and want to install this handguard system on it.
I’ve been trying to get a marlin 45/70 with a threaded barrel but not having any luck where did you get that gun at
Those are tough to get right now for sure. Good luck! I got this 1894 at MidwayUSA. Didn’t know they started selling firearms until I found this. Shipping to your FFL is very reasonable.
Im not too experienced in lever action rifles but looking to do the exact build and a threaded barrel.haven't decided a Cal yet maybe fun gun or pig gun. Hoping for some input on where to look or buy?
Check Marlin's website. The only ones that are pre-threaded are this CST and the Marlin Dark series. So, currently, that would be .357 mag, 30-30, or 45-70. Good luck & enjoy!
For some reason I can’t get the groves on the back of the hand guard to click in with the gun while the magazine tube is on. Without the magazine tube it works fine. Any tips?
Can a new block be machined, making up for the spacing, to replace that mounting black block?
I’m not sure.
do they offer handguards for .22lr henry rifles? looked and didn't see any sadly
Where do you get the ammo holder shown on the main page?
It’s from HopticUSA, they are awesome. This one is called the “LongBow”. We’ll have a video coming soon showing it.
I have one 1895 CB 4570 marlin, does this handguard fit?
Do you think this would work with the marlin scout rail? The scout rail looks like it has wings towards the rear which might hang a bit low.
No, the scout rail protrudes down too far. If you are mechanically inclined, you could probably do some file/machining work on one or both rails and make it work out. You'd just have to hide the bare aluminum where you took away the anodized finish.
Did you ever do anything to remedy the stiff loading gate?
Yep, I installed a Ranger Point Precision loading gate: czcams.com/video/s2L3o0lDzhQ/video.html
Where can I find the ammo holders that are on the side?
It's by HopticUSA. He makes them for a ton of different calibers.
Does the handguard come with that forward sling Mount attached?
No it does not.
So my 44mag front screw holes are about 2” away and I can’t screw them.
Great explanation but what is that Marlin chambered in that you said the wife isn’t intimidated by it? That’s a concern of mine as well.
I'm getting a 45-70 for my truck, but I'm trying to figure out a folding stock . More or less thinking I'm going to have to fashion one myself. Thinking of using a folding AK stock.
Nice! Yeah that 's definitely something you'll have to fabricate. I'd be interested in seeing the final product for sure. Good luck!
@@buildhuntxplore Ill upload what I do. Doing some research I think the folding stock from a VZ58 flipped upside down actually will work better. Just need to get my hands on the parts.
Hey Wolf's Prairie Outdoors!!!! Quick question, I am interested in doing a similar build to this with a Marlin 1894c chambered in 357 mag. I was wondering what brand of shell carrier you have installed on this rifle in your thumbnail for this video??? please let me know when you get the chance? Thank You!!
Howdy!! Thanks for stopping by. It’s the HopticUSA LongBow Quiver. Awesome product!
What brand m lok shell holder is that in the cover picture?
It’s a HopticUSA LongBow. AWESOME stuff 👍
Will this fit an old Marlin 336?
Aloha, You think this will fit a Rossi 92? Even if I have to make a few modification
Howdy! I'm not sure about that. I've never seen the Rossi attachment points so it's hard to say
Who manufactures your gun rack in the background? Nice set up, great vid.
Thanks!! It’s made by Hold Up Displays. Works really well!!
Major problem with this modification, at least on mine. The issue is with the forearm tip tenon which this hand guard screws to, slides left and right thus the barrel ends up not parallel to the hand guard. I'm constantly sliding the hand guard left or right after each shot.
You need to Loc-Tite and stake the tenon, and make sure it's centered. Then you'll be good to go.
How's the Marlin holding up so far? Also, I heard Marlin has stepped up their quality control since the Remlin days. Is there any way to tell if a model is from those days or is from the new and improved era? And why did you decide on the Marlin vs. the Henry Side Gate? By the way, love the production quality and step by step explanations. Keep up the great work!!
Thanks for the compliments! It's doing great so far. I'm actually uploading a video tomorrow morning with the latest install on it. This rifle is WAY better fit and finish when compared to my 2017 Model 1895 SBL. So, yes they have definitely stepped up their quality. I still hear of the occasional issue, but I think for the most part it's way better. I'm not sure of how to differentiate them. I'll have to do some searching and see what I can come up with. As far as Marlin vs. Henry Side Gate. The Henry Side Gate was not an option when I purchased this rifle. Plus, I wanted stainless and the only Side Gate offerings from Henry (as of right now) are brass and the black/blued. Since this one is winding down, we will be starting a new one very soon :-) so be sure to check back! Thanks so much for watching!!
@@buildhuntxplore Thank you! If you can reply here if you find out how to be sure that a Marlin is from the new production line, that would be really awesome. Subb'd to your channel and looking forward to your videos!
You're welcome! Thanks so much for subscribing & following along!
Aside from the Date Code, I've also found the Chromoly steel to be much more smooth functioning than the Stainless. I've been told this is due to the fact that stainless is harder to work, the tooling gets worn sooner, and not replaced when it should be. The chromoly steel is easier to work so the machinery lasts longer. I have a new 336W and it is WAY smoother than my stainless 1895 SBL (2017 manufacture) and my 1894 CST (2019 manufacture)
From what I've found in some forums about date codes:
According to Remington, the barrel code gives the date of manufacture. If you have a 1895 that has a 2 letter code CL on the left side of the barrel. The C is for April and the L is 2017. Unless it has 2 letters, you can't tell the year made, and it was probably from the transitional time period.
Here are the Remington barrel codes.
The month letter,
B = Jan
L = Feb
A = Mar
C = Apr
K = May
P = Jun
O = Jul
W = Aug
D = Sep
E = Oct
R = Nov
X = Dec
The year letter,
E = 2010, F = 2011, G = 2012, H = 2013, I = 2014, J = 2015, K = 2016 , L= 2017, M = 2018, N = 2019
Maybe someone else can add in anything if I'm mistaken or they know something else.
Hope this helps!!
@@buildhuntxplore Thanks. Really appreciate it.
Do they make this for the Henry 45-70?
I’m not sure, but check out the new handguard from Ranger Point Precision. I think they’ll have a Henry version soon! It’s wicked 👍🤠
Where did you get that ammo holder/side saddle you have in the thumbnail
LML Renzo McMeme : I'd like to know that too, and if it comes in .44 mag
It’s from HopticUSA. It’s the Longbow Quiver. Awesome ammo holder!!
Yes, it's available in .44 mag as well!
I just picked up a Marlin 1895 Dark Series 45-70. I cannot remove the forend or magazine tube. I’ve removed all 3 screws, 2 side screw and magazine tube screw on bottom of tube. It’s really tight on there and won’t budge. Any ideas or tips?
Hmmm...It might just REALLY be on there, haha. It should lift off the stud at the end with a little pressure. Sorry, I can't be of too much help without seeing it and putting my hands on it. The first time I tried taking mine off was a bear too. Good luck!!
Thanks for the reply.
I got it off. I used my vehicle dash removal tool. They’re plastic so it didn’t damage the finish.
Could someone tell me if there's a possibility to get those ammo holders that attach to the rail in 357 magnum?
Yep this one is in 357 magnum. The company is HopticUSA. Awesome products!!
@@buildhuntxplore thank you!!
Welcome!!
Do you know if you can get a 357 mag muzzle brake for these?
I'm sure you could, but no real need for it. There's no kick. If you're doing it for looks, I think it's threaded 1/2x28 like an AR.
@@buildhuntxplore yea, it would be for looks. Cant decide if I should go black or stainless. PS I found a website to a company in CO that makes custom muzzle brakes
Which one es for the winchester 94 cal 3030?
Sorry, but none of this will work on a Winchester lever action. They’re aren’t many aftermarket parts for those rifle.
What ammo carriers are those?
It’s by a company called HopticUSA. Awesome products! This is called the Longbow Quiver. Thanks for watching!
Would it fit a .44 Magnum 1894P?
I think so, but I'd check with Midwest first.
Can it be installed in a 336C or 336W?
yes it can. Also check out the new one from Ranger Point Precision
Will this fit winchester 94?
Nope, sorry
Is it pretty much the same installation for a Henry 45-70X?
No, A Henry is a more complex installation.
@@buildhuntxplore I haven't picked one up yet but that figures that I would want the one that is more complex.
Thanks so much for your reply.
How get the hand guard loose?
Once the screws are out, you just have to pry or persuade it off with a plastic wedge or rubber mallet. They can really be on there from the factory.
Those folks who clear a weapon with multiple racking of the action need only look once into the chamber, actions opened.
It’s just the way it goes sometimes
What's the weight savings using the metal fore end vs the wood?
I was actually wrong about the weight, haha. The wood weighs 4 ounces and the aluminum weighs 6 ounces (both according to Midway USA). I guess because the weight is distributed along a longer area that it feels more balanced.
How about an m-lok handguard for a flintlock rifle?
Dont like what you see? Don't watch.
MrMrjones333 - don’t like the comment? Don’t read.
I justified my reasoning in the video, plus, it’s one of the great things about this country; we can modify as we wish
I bought one for mine but due to Marlins poor fit and finish the pinion slides side to side so the m-Lok handguard my mine moves all over the place. It sucks cause I really wanted it on the rifle!
You can do it just like a castle nut on an AR15 and stake it. Just stake each side in place and you’ll be good to go 👍
Can I get a video on that
I’ll try to get one up soon. Mine is actually loose as well and I’ve been meaning to do it. Lots going on since we have a newborn and he’s been sick. I’ll get to it soon though!
How many places does it come in contact with the barrel?
The only contact points are the front of the receiver and the mounting lug that is already inset into the barrel.
@@buildhuntxplore So then it doesn't really "dissipate heat from the barrel. That requires plenty of metal to metal contact. right?
It’s not that it is cooling the gun itself, rather there’s not the wood handguard trapping heat that keeps the barrel hotter longer. Instead, with the open air design it’s more of an air-cooled system.
@@buildhuntxplore The wood only covers about 20% of the barrel's surface. I've never heard of a lever gun overheating. It's for looks... just say it.
Function over looks for me. How hard have you run a lever gun? When you push them they get hot like any other gun. And i didn’t say it was going to over heat. It just helps keep it cooler. Also I didn’t say it was the sole reason. It gives me a mounting point for my HopticUSA Longbow Quiver and a mounting point for a flashlight for a bump in the night. This is a rifle my wife can easily manipulate for 2-legged or 4-legged problems on our homestead.
What is it for? Looks only?
Nope. It fits my uses for my homestead
I cannot get mine to fit flush into the receiver. I have a 1895GBL
Hmmmm If I were you I'd call Midwest Industries and ask them about it. It may need to be filed slightly to get it to fit properly.
i got a trapper, now I need its little brother😍 cant find them anywhere!
That’s funny, I want a Trapper! 🤣
@@buildhuntxplore www.impactguns.com/lever-action-rifles/marlin-model-1895-trapper-45-70-16-ss-barrel-skinner-sights-wild-west-guns-style-big-loop-lever-026495704506-70450/#wiki
@@buildhuntxplore only place that has it online right now
Sadly I can’t justify the extra expense right now. Really appreciate it though!
Sorry I like my black webbing stock...on my 1895 tsbl45/70
It is nice
5:19 did anyone else hear something?
Tyler Benally ya it was someone whispering to him for what to say
@@airsoftsniper59r56 oh ok. Thanks
lol my dad was in the background commenting. Somehow it slipped through the editing
Disapate heat on a lever gun better than wood. Like u could ever load and shoot it enough for it to matter. c;
lol not as much for the gun, but more for the hand holding it
What caliber was this Marlin again? I apologize I didn’t catch that.
It’s a .357 mag/.38 special. That’s all this one is currently offered in. The 1894 SBL is offered in .357/.38 and .44 magnum.
Wolf's Prairie Outdoors Thank You
who's the whisperer.....
Haha, my dad was talking...he's a very loud whisperer
Why?
I covered my reasons in the video. It fits my needs/desires for my homestead.
Bad to the bone!
Thanks!!
This entire concept makes me want to cry. It's a lever gun. It's as tactical as it needs to be already. It's the original tactical rifle. You guys will stick a laser and a flashlight on anything. Doesn't make it cool or right.
Sorry you don’t like it. But see, that’s the great thing about America; you can do what you want with your hard earned money, I do what I want with mine, and we both enjoy the sport how we want.
Why in the hell would you ruin the lever action gun by putting that shit on?
Probably because it's his gun, i don't think we are in china or north Korea.
Why would you do this to a nice gun.
Because I wanted to make it more applicable to my situation and fit my needs.
made a good looking gun look horrid.
Lol sorry you don’t like it. To each his own.
@@buildhuntxplore dont be sorry , just prefer traditional lines :)
I do really like them too. Check out my 1895 Hunting Rig video. Kept it classic. This 1894 is going to be a hard use ranch rifle. One thing I really like is the HopticUSA Longbow Quiver I’ve mounted to it. We are in a very humid area so a leather cartridge cuff would corrode rounds left in it over time. The Longbow is aluminum and mounted to the M-Lok rail so no worries there!
Ok. Free country. You don't need permission from me.
But, please stop converting decent rifles into "tactical" abominations.
Please.
Sorry. It fits my needs/desires for my homestead
Its junk and its ugly.
And that’s the great thing about living in the good old USA, we can modify our personal items as we see fit to better suit our needs. A company can’t produce a product that will please everyone.