Digging Deeper into the Roland Aerophone Pro AE 30
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- In this video we dig deeper into the Roland Aerophone Pro and find out how all the settings and controls work and how a scene is built.
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
2:20 Control basics
5:05 System settings
5:55 Scene settings
6:27 Assign settings and assign source switch
8:08 Midi settings
9:50 Midi control switch
10:45 Settings overview
11:15 Sound basics - Hudba
Thanks! I’m a new player on the AE-30 and you have helped and inspired me so much!
So pleased to hear that. Enjoy.
Hey! This whole Super Thanks is so new to me I hadn't spotted your generous gift. You are the very first on my channel. Thank you SO MUCH!!!!
@@isax.academy Thank YOU for your videos!!! I REALLY appreciate them because they have helped me SO MUCH! You are also a real inspiration, and I love your album “Going Solo”..!
That’s so nice to hear. Many thanks indeed. 🙏
I am a teacher - and i tell you - you are a great one!
Roland are lucky to have you - you literally sell aerophones for them
- thanks again
Wow, thanks!
Thank you so Much for Your Support sir. love from india
Hallo mister Alistair, thank you verry much for your videos. You are a verry good teacher, and I love to look at your videos
because your clear articulation and relax tempo. I am 72 years old and I have ordered a AE-30 pro that will arrive tomorow.
I am looking forward to it... And indead Roland must be verry lucky with you, and so are we.
Again, thank you so much!
Brother I sure do love your channel ….. buying a item is a lot easier to do after watching your videos fantastic information !
Thank so much.
Another truly informative video, Alistair. I've saved quite a collection of your videos for my EWIs and AE-10 and now for the AE-30 which I've purchased based on your review and demonstration and look forward to adjusting per your instructions -- once it arrives. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and talent. It makes playing these things quite a bit less lonely.
Thanks so much. I hope you love the AE-30
Excelent material Allistair!!! Bravo!!!👏👏👏
Many thanks!
Loving your work! Joined the FB group. Picking up my AE 30 tomorrow. Pumped!
Perfect. Thanks Alistair. I've had my AE-30 for a couple of weeks now and having lots of fun with it but I've just been waiting (sort of patiently!) for some more content from you so I can start digging down deeper. I've particularly been scratching my head over the MIDI settings and how to get it to play nicely with my DAW so this is very helpful. Cheers!
More to come on that subject.
Terrific Alistair. Thank you!
Look forward to your next batch of videos. Still only on AE-10, and considering your course...... maybe an AE-30 one day.
Mr. Parnell, Thanks for your sharing, i learn a lot of Aerophone skill from you.
Many thanks.
Brilliant, Alistair! Nice one! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it
As usual Alistair a great and helpful video for us AE Pro players. I’ve learnt so much from this video but I have to put it on repeat many times to get the benefit. Bravo!! ANDREW
many thanks Andrew.
Thank you for the great explanation. The day after tomorrow, I will go to the music store to pick up the AE-30 that I ordered, and I am very relieved to have a good understanding of the internal structure and the controls for the external synthesizers (FA06 & Fantom).
Good choice!
Awesome, thanks for the info once again, I’ve read some of the manual and messed around some and it’s good to know what I figured out so far has been true and then you added to my knowledge again, nicely done. Looking forward to the future videos especially the rotator ones, that rotator 3 sound has demanded many hours of play from me
Glad they are helpful. Yes, I love those rotators.
Thank you very much, Alistair, for making these videos. My aerophone hasn't shipped yet, but by watching your fantastic videos I will be able to hit the ground running with this instrument.
Hope you enjoy it.
I have to admit that I really need you with my instrument.... you are my aerophone's guru!
Thanks Gui
Great job👍👍👍
thank you sir!
Just another great help. Thanks! I'll do my homework now, and try to upgrade even more my fantastic aerophone pro.😉
Many thanks.
Great Video Alistair cant wait to get my AE30
Enjoy it
Great help! And that funky bassline you played was amazing! Now I’m considering stepping up from my AE-10 hmm hmm
Thanks.
Thanks Alistair. Mine should be arriving in just a couple of weeks so I'll be watching this one again! You had some nice patches in your musical interludes. As much as I love cheese in my sandwiches, I really hate cheese in my synth patches so it's reassuring to hear sounds that I wouldn't be embarrassed to be heard in public with.
Thanks for watching. I'm afraid I'm often guilty of playing a little cheese.
I've had an EWI, YDS 150 and AE 05, Kept the AE 05. I've had the AE 30 for about 10 days now and it blows all of the others out of the water IMOP.
Thank you sir, and as I said before, You're like Spring water to a dying Ignoramous!
Thanks for watching.
Thank you very much!
You're welcome!
I love your 'Professional' videos.
You make me harder and harder to keep myself from buying a AE-Pro.
Please tell Roland people to innovate the lovely Go, for those like me, who do not like to bother those cool controls. The beauty of Go is the simplicity for amateur music lovers.
I vote for that.
Also, I wish Roland or AKAI had some budget models with synth engine shifted to software (Patchman sounds loaded into some VST or Kontakt-like host) and with the EWI serving as the best-in-class MIDI controller with a breath/bite controller port that can accept any future innovated mouthpieces.
It seems the best I can get for a reasonable price is Akai EWI USB or Roland Go.
Roland Mini is not good. The bite sensor is very important even for a beginner!
I'm a total beginner with my Clarineo; still, vibrato was almost the very first thing I learned. It's so much fun to hear how the sound reacts to the shape of my mouth. Also, the transpose feature is a must for a beginner, when I want to cheat and avoid playing those tricky halftones. That's one of the reasons I fancy an EWI - to be able to play along most of the songs, even those that have lots of halftones. Just transpose your instrument and bam! most of # turn into whole tones.
I even started looking at do-it-yourself EWI projects to see if I can make something simple with Arduino MIDI programming and using two silicone tubes - one for breath and another one for bite - that might be an interesting experiment. I have electronic and programming skills to do that, but I don't have enough free time.
Hi Alistair, first will say thank you for your very very helpful Video in my case the EWI…. I am very interested and want to know how to use the ae30 with Cubase11.
Does the USBc sent audio and midi to my DAW so that i can also use my external Soundcard for my speakers?
When this works, is it possible to save the presets from the AE30 in my Cubase Project, so when i open the Project with connected AE30 the sound loaded that played?
best regards from Germany
I wish Roland or AKAI had some budget models with synth engine shifted to software (Patchman sounds loaded into some VST or Kontakt-like host) and with the EWI serving as the best-in-class MIDI controller.
Roland Mini is a bit disappointing for the price. The bite sensor is very important even for a beginner! I'm a total beginner with my Clarineo; still, vibrato was almost the very first thing I tried just to make me sound more alive. It is so much fun to hear how the sound reacts to the shape of my mouth.
Also, the transpose feature is a must for a beginner, when I want to cheat and avoid playing those tricky halftones. That's one of the reasons I fancy an EWI - to be able to play along most of the songs, even those that have lots of halftones.
I even started looking at do-it-yourself EWI projects to see if I can make something simple with Arduino MIDI programming and using two silicone tubes - one for breath and another one for bite - that might be an interesting experiment. I have electronic and programming skills to do that, but I don't have enough free time.
So, the best I can get for a budget price is Akai EWI USB or to step up to Akai Solo or Roland Go.
Bonjour, Hello. i like your videos that are always very interesting; and thank you for your very clear pronunciation that allows me to understand you despite my poor level of english. could you detail the use of the aerophone pro editor as you did for the AE10. thank you for your help.
Coming up next. Thanks for watching.
Looking forward to the next ae-30 lessons. I am really curious, how these chord „patches“ work, where the harmonies changed without seemingly moving the fingers.
Nice to see someone is paying attention 😊.
All will be revealed soon.
Very well done! You‘re the best!! (Don‘t like Facebook though...)
Hi, nice video! Do you know where (website) can I buy a replacement key (C1) for those Roland Pro or AE-30?
Hi Alistair, I have just had an operation where the surgeon said I must not blow for 3 months, acoustic or AE-30 is there a way to make the instrument play with a foot switch? ? Love your channel
Hello from Canada Alistair. I see you have done a demo on the AE20 as well. Can you input into Sibelius with the USB cable? thanks
Yes indeed. See my video on the Aerophone GO and Sibelius. It works the same.
Hi, I was wondering if you knew whether one could add songs to the practice Repertoire app. Thanks.
You can add and play backing tracks but you can’t add new songs to the practice pieces. It would be a great addition though.
Hallo Alistair, I’m from Belgium and I really like your video’s. I have a problem : What do I have to do to make the motion function working? Like : when I lift up my instrument, I get another scène or favorit? Or when I’m playing tenor sax and I lift up my instrument, I get an orchestra of synths? Grtz Bruno
Easiest to do this on the app.
Go to Editor>Internal> motion and select what you want or to do.
Hi, have probs with the oktav key, it allways change greasy or with "plop", got no probs with real saxes... tip for Setup?
This takes practice but for me it’s about moving as little as possible with the thumb.
Great video, Alistair. One question, though. You made this 10 months ago now, and at the end you say that future videos will cover subjects like playing chords and using drones. I’d love to have information on those topics. Are the videos likely to appear soon?
So sorry for the delay. Theses videos take upwards of 20 hours each and with my full time private teaching studio its tricky to keep up. Will do better!
Great thanks, currently pawning everything to get an AE-30. Can we have an alternative to Facebook for the group please?
I'll look into it
Hi Alistair, can you tell me the settings you were on 8:15....I love the sound
I’m pretty sure that’s the Jupiter AP sound from the presets. It’s actually a sound I did for the Pro presets.
The trick is to play with the speed of the air to control the attack.
@@isax.academy Thank you for the response. That's a great sound - Loving my AE-Pro. Is there a way to edit the attack and Reverb on the AE-Pro editor (like the Go App)? Thank you
Is that your own Metheny backing track, or is that available somewhere? Sounds great!
Not mine I'm afraid. Its from the amazing Bobby's backing tracks. They are the best!
Hi Alistair, just quick question, please. Sometimes while playing I’ll hit a key that instantly creates an interval along with the note. Problem is, I DONT KNOW WHWERE IT IS, or how to find it when I want it or turn it off, and can’t find it listed in the manual. HELP! Thanks, G
Hi. I imagine it will be the S1 or S2 key. The very small buttons that are under your left thumb as you bold the instrument.
That patch you are playing at 4:28 - is that one of the default patches? Sounds lovely
Hi. Yes it’s a patch I wrote that’s a a preset patch on the Pro called Heard it all. It’s a mix of two synths and a guitar.
@@isax.academy Thanks! Great job.
Hi Alistarir you play a nice sound over the minute 4 in a Path Metheny tune what sound is this , I remeber you bild a Pat matheny sound in the early AE10 but I never cuold sound like , and another question the luetooth can be used as midi too and how ??
Thanks
It's a preset that I made and is standard on the Pro called Heard it all. Yes the Pro send midi over bluetooth and it works very well.
@@isax.academy thanks master
@@isax.academy when you play soiunds diferent , you are so good
Is it possible to change the volume for live gigs in a direkt form (...and not over the normal software menu)?
See page 3 of the Parameter Guide. Set the Transpose Knob Mode to Output Volume.
Now you can directly control volume using the transpose knob.
@@isax.academy thanx‼️
Alistair ! Hello from colombia. I have an AE10 aerophone, and I have a problem to solve. I have my aerophone conected via midi with logic pro x. I play in a band. While I am not playing, the aerophone capture different notes from "anywhere" without me, and these notes are a problem because usually cause troubles with the sound.
¿Do you know a way to control the input signal to reduce this "accidentally notes" ?
Hi Do you have the breath sensitivity set too high?
@@isax.academy Hello! The problem happens with the breath sensitive on every level. From Low 3 to High 3
Hi Alastair..i thought i heard you say something about 8 octaves on the pro..how do you activate this
You play through octaves using the two up and two down octave keys. There are settings to adjust how they work, but you can get 3 octaves up and 3 down by using the 1, 1+2, 2 presses in each direction. So for instance playing a D I can go up and down a total of 7 octaves, plus I can squeak out one more with palm key D for a total of 8.
Hi Alastair
Thanks ..I sorted the additional octaves by reading the manual...I have a more serious problem now...the first octave key sticks... after 3 months....noticed the windsynth guy had the same problem...see his utube clip...He returned his to the supplier... I'm in South Africa and it costs too much to send it back to amazon US.. please give me advice on what to do ...Thanks
Hi. Sorry you’re having problems. I have never had problems with sticking keys. I will try to investigate and see what anyone else recommends. I’ll post a reply here if I discover anything.
Will your supplier support you?
@@isax.academy morning Alastair thanks for your response...maybe this is not the forum to discuss this ..please give me your email address or cell number for WhatApp..Bought it from amazon US as our local supplier does not stock this model
Sorry, that won’t be possible. You would have to contact Amazon or Roland directly and take it up with them.
@@isax.academy... ok will do thks Alistair
I have heard from another user who said Roland took care of the issue quickly at a service department. Perhaps you could contact them directly? I guess Amazon will just offer a return.
Sir, I'm impressed. I would consider getting a GO if the fingerings could be changed to clarinet keys. Since the wind does not make true sound and the keys are switches it should be easy to reprogram the keys for clarinet fingering. But however, I see a few more keys might be needed to fully simulate the clarinet key layout, darn. I could see Roland capturing a whole new market of clarinetists if.... Most intriguing, your instrument method could be the instrument to allow me to playing the clarinet again, I lost bite control in Vietnam. Hooyah, salute!
Hi. Yes its something that has been requested before. I think it would mean quite a re design to make the clarinet players really happy. You realise the fingering will be very similar to the upper octave of the clarinet in all octaves?
@@isax.academy Since all the keys are actually touch-sensors it should not be all that difficult to copy a clarinet. But I did just read that the clarinet has more keys than any other woodwind. And then there is another serious issue with the shift register on the back is not a full octave. So yes, it will take some serious programming for a clarinet. The SOLO is so close but also not there. TNX, de N6JSX/8
Dumb newbie question. I love the rotary button to get to the factory presets. But how do I quickly go to the user bank scenes without having to hold the down arrow down for 5 minutes I have the AE3o Pro. . I tried to find this in the manual but could not
Thanks for all you do.
Hi. Just hold the down arrow key and twist the rotary button. It’ll go straight to the user banks.
Holding the up arrow and turning the knob selects your favourites directly.
Although I might have those the wrong way round. You can set that in the menu.
@@isax.academy thanks so much
Also do you share or sell your sounds anywhere? I heard what you said about sound exchanging and I’d love to find some. Sorry to bother.
How much experience do you need in the sax to be able to make this sound well? I play the trumpet.
I’d say, if you can play a trumpet you can play this. It’s like anything else, the more time you put in the more you get out.
First of all WOW I could listen to you play all day, I have a question, years ago I am now 65 so in marching band I played the tenor sax and played for about 4 years, would the Roland go be appropriate for teaching, I looked at the mini but the go has some better features that appeal to me, your comment would be appreciated. Thanks be safe and healthy sign the digginrev
The Aerophone GO is a great little instrument and very versatile. When you say appropriate for teaching do mean for learning on?
@@isax.academy Thanks so much for answering I know your busy, yes, its been quite a while since those days of playing and wanted to know is there instruction to relearn and I do hope that it comes back to me I am 65 so its been a while.
Are the sounds on the AE-30 better than the ones on an AE-10?
Yes, I’d say they are a big step up.
Man that manual is DENSE.
Dear Alistair (perf teacher ), I can't change values of the thumb lever..
Actually is setting on 2 (1 tone), I need to 1/2 tone on System
How can I do?
Thanks, thanks a lot!
Maybe you need to set the thumb lever to system rather than scene in the menu? This confuses many people.
@@isax.academy Yes, I think you're right.
I will try this mode.
Thanks, you are the best teacher!
Does this sax require Apple hardware and software, or will it also work with android and microsoft products like the Yamaha -150?
Hi. This Aerophone and all other Aerophones will work equally well with PC and Android gear. Personally I use Apple products which is why they are in my videos but PC and android version are available.
Just remember the AE-30 is intended for the Pro player and therefor has quite a depth of potential. With that comes a requirement for a certain level of tech savvy to get the best from it. It’s worth looking carefully into the range to see which one suits your needs and skill level.
Dear Alistair, Motivated by your videos I just bought a AE-30 Pro today. After I got the instrument out from the box, I tested the keys and I found that when I press down any of the keys, the key will not immediately released. I have a feeling that when I remove my finger away from the key, there is some power (like magnetic force) won't let the key go back to its original position immediately. This is my first to touch the AE-30 Pro and I have no idea if it is normal and designed that way. You are the expert for this instrument. Would you please let me know your answer? Thank you and have a great day. Mike from US.
Hi Mike. Has this resolved for you now? Are the notes working properly. I think there could be a short playing in period.
@@isax.academy : Thanks for your reply. The keys are working, but I still feel the keys are sticky. Is this normal with AE-30 Pro ?
@@isax.academy HI Allstair, Will the foot controller (Pedalboard) work with Arophone Pro? Can I use the pedal to control the bend up, bend down or slide? Where can I find the instruction on setting up the Arophone pro with the pedal?
Thank you
Mike
I would like a video on how to make the acoustic instrument patches sound more like the actual acoustic instruments! If that is possible to do.
Pmwizard48. The parameters for editing a “scene” (the acoustic instrument) are found in the Aerophone pro app. But to be honest there is but so much that can be done to Really make a windsynth sound like a Real acoustic instrument. Some of the sounds can pass very well with John Q listener and if the patch/sound/scene is played well and understanding the limits of the sound you’re using. Also, it depends on your concept of what a real acoustic instrument should sound like. For instance, the sound of an alto sax is as varied as there are saxophonist. And with that said, an electronically produced sax sound/scene/patch will have flaws revealed depending how it is played.
Del Franklin posted a great clip of him playing the tenor sax sound on the AE-30 and it sounded great. He didn’t play a bunch of riffs- which would have exposed weaknesses in any electronically produced (non-sampled) sax patch.
In short you’re not going to get an exact replica of a real acoustic instrument on an electronic instrument but, yes you tweak parameters and play the sound within its limits and convince some listeners- “Wow! I didn’t know you played the violin as well. Where is it?”
Just my .0000002 cents worth.
Thank you for the quick reply. I do own an akai 400s with a Yamaha vl70 with the patchman turbo sounds.
@@pneumasax yep, Del really found the heart of that patch. Some of the SuperNatural sounds are good but others will never fool anyone regardless of tweaks or player skill. That doesn't bother me because for me the SuperNatural sounds are a free bonus on top of the Zen-Core sounds.
HOW DO I GET GROWL PLEASE HELP
Check out the parameter guide and the scene list.
Different sounds deal with growl in a different way so you need to see which controls are set to growl for each sound and if necessary add your own control CC to make the growl work.
Too bad they did not include any buttons to replace the left right motion of the joystick on the AE 10. It will now be less flexible to harmonize!
I think the same in a way but the functions of the thumb pad and pitch bend wheel are very flexible and I'm finding I can do everything on the Pro that I did on the 10.
@@isax.academy You can’t independently summon four different intervals like on the ae10. You just have the harmony sw option for the wheel and you can only utilize your one set of intervals rather than major thirds or minor thirds independently. If you figured out how please let us know!