TTJ: Ashlen Rose v Cassius Marsh v Devin v Blackneto | MTG Commander Gameplay episode 19
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2022
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The table agrees to SHRINE'anigens, signing off on some high powered decks!
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We did realize that Narset does allow one card draw after you wheel when we got done playing but it wasn't worth trying to go all the way back. Thanks for watching!
Why does Casius use a Cedh deck against mid-high powered casual decks this ep? 🤣
Lol we all knew what we were getting ourselves into 😂 honestly though it was a cool challenge for all of our decks. None of the decks I ever play I consider good enough to be cEDH but it’s always nice to see if they can hang with the craziness! We all had fun though that’s the most important part ☺️
good to know. I always thought it was that opponents can't draw more than one card during draw step, rendering zero draws. so Narset isn't that bad afterall :/ LOL
@@williammaykel138 on your turn that is how Narset works, but you can still draw one card on your opponents turn.
Maybe a good rule of thumb from now on, is for cards in other languages to have an english card sitting nearby, maybe in a token stack that accompanies the decks, just to avoid these issues.
I know you guys rule-0'd it and I'm sure you had fun as the players, but from a viewer's perspective it's not really enjoyable to watch 50% of the players do almost nothing. I love Light Paws and was hoping to see some more back-and-forth between her and the other decks. Cool game to watch nonetheless, but I think having 4 decks that are closer together power-wise would just make for a more enjoyable experience for the viewers.
I had fun watching it even tho 2 if the players did nearly nothing but I still had fun watching it.
I agree, such over powered cards should not be in a casual type environment, 6 thousand dollar plus card? Naah man. Very boring game, so little interaction.
Echoing other people by saying that watching a clearly more powerful deck play against casual decks is not that great but thanks for the content
Cash: I will Jeweled Lotus for a turn 1 Urza.
Me: *Taps the screen to check the video duration*
From watching previous episodes with Cassius and Posty, it seems they enjoy high powered decks. May I recommend having a cEDH game with them and everyone else at the table playing cEDH level decks. I think it would be very fun to watch.
I second this, keen to seem some cEDH
Agreed, mismatches aren't as fun to watch
When the power high deck takes a billion take backs to win the game... In my play group we allow take backs, but not if you're playing cedh adjacent decks. "if you want to play like a competitor then play like a competitor"
🤣 Cassius was in way over his head with that deck. He didn't deserve that win. I really wanted to see more from Shrines, too! Hopefully Devin brings it back sometime soon
I love Cassius but he is the definition of "All the gear, with no idea"
Agreed
i was thinking that, he's even doing all the card flicking.
Feels like he looked at what the "cool kids" do and just copied mannerisms, decks, printings..
Cash didn’t roll for crypt, didn’t know what his own Narset did, and is playing a way higher powered deck lol. Yikes. Sick game though.
and almost let his 1/1 golem die
And countered a spell after effects had resolved and priority had passed... not very good at playing the high power he has
@@ethanmiter3024 that made me mad for Joe.
Like realizing someone's gonna win the game and u go back 2 steps after they revealed and put the card they searched for onto the battlefield. Shoulda never been able to go back on that
Microdosing is a powerful thing
Man, would've loved to see what that shrine deck was even trying to do
As someone who played it before he upgraded it for this show, it is a beautiful terrifying beast of a deck for sure!
Shrines are annoying asf with that new Zur card from DMU set
I would’ve never let Cassius use let that force of negation resolve, if you were afraid of losing to light paws use the well while it’s in the stack. Seems like a cheap move to me
How did I not notice that absolutely EPIC hoodie during the Moxfield promo? So sick
Getting to see Light Paws do his thing and almost take down Urza in the process was a fun watch as a lover of both commanders.
The way Joe sets up auras on Lightpaws completely blew my mind!!!! That just makes life SO FREAKING EASY!!!
I stack swords like that too in my Voltron deck! It makes it easier for people to see what I have!
@@TabletopJocks that is what I was thinking for my Rograkh voltron deck!! You completely blew my mind!!!
Me: Excited to see some Go-Shintai gameplay!
Urza: Um excuse me Go-Shintai player… you can play 4 lands. That’s all you can do this game.
I'm glad Cassius misunderstood his 0/0 at 7:20. I had the same concern when he played it, and the explanation helped me learn
Play my whole deck and win! 😂 Right will let you win, once you explain me the polymorph or the swan song combo. Can’t wait to watch that amusing attempt 🤣
Tell me you’ve never played Urza without telling me you’ve never played Urza
my golem is 0/0
When Joe was doing the "pew pew," I laughed imagining light paws being armed to the teeth, then pulls out a cloth glove and proceeds to slap the opponents, and it goes from feeling light to heavier than a brick.
Cass said "Toot that thang", he was already watching the coronet being tutored. When the coronet was being cast, he responded by drawing 2 cards. If it was a bounce spell, he'd be safe but it wasn't. Seemed like a shady move to me, but when playing with friends, I have experienced letting those things slide. As long as the whole table agreed on the take-backsie, it should be fine.
Light Paws can be so broken but it's still one of my fav commanders
Doesn't Narset stop you from drawing MORE than one per turn, not stop you from drawing entirely?
exactly hey
The smirk when proclaiming oneself as foil god is hilarious
Man, do I know how it feels to get stuck and not be able to play my deck! I get all the salt for the power difference but I would have 100% would have tried my best against that Urza deck with one of my casual decks. Yeah, it'll most likely win in the long run but sometimes that god hand comes through for the rest of the table and makes it a little interesting. Look forward to the next episode!
Devin! I'm fairly confident I just played with you on spell table last night. We played against a husband/wife, she was playing basically a precon and he was playing Jodah.
If it wasn't you, there's another guy with hand tattoos playing the same commander with the exact same lands and same sleeves I played with last night 😆
Just made this light paws deck with most of the same cards and loving it kinda mean with protection from every color lol
I always keep an English version of any foreign/altered cards in my decks with my tokens, so anyone can read what it does (myself included) lol
Playing with Cash seems like a lot of fun *cough cough* 😂
Great content 👍
I love how ppl "forget" to roll for crypt and 3 brains can't remember to remind 1 person either 🤣 ggs
Some crazy fun looking decks here. Good to see some Light Paws and Esix get some screen time.
Oooooo super excited new episode with Cash, stoked to see his cEDH get shut down by a single common piece of interaction while attempting to pub stomp 🤣
LOL .... Cash is pissed at that Rapid Hybrid ....... total silence at the table for a while after that play
Surprised he didn’t scoop right there
@@skate14eras ya that was intense
Urza is busted tho, thats great threat assessment by ashlen. His bullshit would’ve started 2 turns earlier
Loved this game. I had a similar experience in my playgroup where we all tried to roll with a cEDH deck and see if we could team up to beat it... We lost on turn 2 and still had a great time just seeing such a pop off happen! Keen to see some cEDH games with Posty and The Foil God!!
Cassius, Austin and myself all have no ban list decks we play with one another off camera. One day we will probably film one cause those games are spicy!!!!!
@@TabletopJocks That would be so awesome to see! Literally no restrictions commander!
@@TabletopJocks I hope there is a Braids list in there. 😈
@@TabletopJocks this is what the good people want to see! I'm sad the archenemy prevailed...
Id have argued till my face was blue about that coronet but Cass never said it resolved so I'd have let it ride too. I also have a light paws deck and have had to educate my friends that you have to respond to the cast and/or etb trigger. You don't get to see what I tutor for till it is in play. No one wanted to catch them hands, they try everythimg 😂
can someone walk me through a cassius win on his turn? i don’t see it and i don’t see any way to even do a twister loop (no way to recur twister)
Since he mentioned that he's playing Urza Power Scepter, I assume it's a standard list (and I saw no cards deviate from it).
He could've exiled everything until he exiles a codex shredder, then, as he untaps everything with Isochron + Dramatic Reversal, he'd get infinite mill to mill out all of his opponents and then cast Windfall. (If he'd get to that point with less than 6 cards in his library, he'd have to just mill their opponent to 0 and pass turn, but there is a few way to heavily mitigates that change, by hitting tutors that can get Codex Shredder and Windfall before being down to 7 cards). However, we also know that some of the players have Eldrazi's that shuffle the Library (we know that atleast Ashlen has Ulamog in her deck, we can see it when she's shuffling from the Time Twister at 15:45), so he'd have to mill until Ulamog is her last card and she'd at least have an extra turn (with Ulamog as a draw) before losing on subsequent turns.
(If he did deviate from the standard list, he could also just have a Thassa's Oracle)
That being said, I'm really not sure if Cassius knew the exact line he could take, I would've definately asked him to go through it and show the win (or at least explain the line he was going to take other than "I just play everything")!
@@diphoration_ he did deviate from the list. There is a decklist in the description. There is no codex shredder and no Thassa's oracle. There is no way to get a card back from the yard other than mystic sanctuary (but land drop was already used this turn). If he exiles his whole library, he can do a copy artifact + swan song infinite swans loop but he would lose in his drawstep of the next turn
@@shooterOfAll I didn't realise the decklists were posted, then I guess I also don't see how he could've won this game lol.
PR ACG cards for tokens is a hell of a power move.
Dope episode once again Joe. Seeing your light paws deck pop off like that and almost knock Cassius out was wicked, and everyone hating on Cassius for not rolling for mana crypt or forgetting what the Narset did need to realize these are friends playing commander together. Whenever I play with my pod shit like this happens when we are having fun and letting the vibes flow, and at the end of the day this is for our entertainment and I was entertained regardless. Thanks Joe 🙏🏻🔥💯
Appreciate the love out a sea of negativity. It’s literally what the show is about. Friends playing magic together! In the end, will we get everything right? Nope. But as long as we had fun while we were doing it then it’s fine! The emphasis is on the gathering and entertaining! Thanks for watching! 🥳
yikes, watched about half and realized no one was going to do anything except cash. skipped to the end to hear him say "infinite mana and win". bummer of a game honestly
Cash needs those alters that have as close to the English translation as possible without copyright infringements altar sleeves. I got them for my Japanese alt art WOTS planeswalker and they help.
@15:25 the opponents would still draw 1 card from the Timetwister the static off narset reads “each opponent can’t draw more than one card EACH turn”
The light paws player even looked the card up and didn’t realize I’m dead 🤣💀
This one was hard to watch! But sometimes it be like that. :p Keep the videos coming main!
So satisfying when those 2 in ~85 chances are panning out. Or should i say casshing out 😏
Great episode. King Cash the Evil with his signature Narset Wheel shenanigans. It was fun watching the rest of the table playing archenemy. And the good guys almost got there!
I genuinely enjoy watching these kinds of games. Especially when everyone is aware of the power going on, and a great sport about it like yall were!
Dang Cassius really said “but if I’m not responding to daybreak coronet then I’m dead on board” after daybreak coronet resolved..... and all that glitters was on the stack.....I think that means he ....lost?
Dude showed up with a clearly (played out) over powered deck, fumbled through misplay after misplay, I mean did he roll for his foil mana crypt once? With an 18 life total lol. We get it dude, you’re rich, you have shiny stuff and think the rules of the game don’t apply to you lmao or are all his cards Japanese? /s
The little replay should have been daybreak coronet on the stack, Cassius not responding, it resolving and all that glitters going on the stack, and Cassius countering that, he’d still be dead to commander damage. Or am I misunderstanding this?
I don’t think Devin even played. Would have much rather seen the rest of the table play it out after Joe took Cassius out. Was weird to watch Joe weirdly submit to Cassius, when he was obviously right, on his own show nonetheless.
Ashley tried so hard to keep everyone (cash) on board with daybreak entering the battlefield. It's a shame cash is so bad at communicating what the hell he's doing or maybe just plays so loose he gets away with stuff like that.
To me it was pretty clear he was trying to think through what would happen and if he needed to interact but they moved along. Agree she did try to get confirmations as it went along
@@HelplessHeroes maybe for a second but both joe and Ashley mentioned that it was resolving unless he had something to stop it, to which he just kinda fumbled through his deck
Id hate playing with Cassius
Playing archenemy would be a cool way to play Cedh vs mid-high power casual. 3 vs 1 and have the cedh player use an archenemy deck
That sounds lit! I might tell the homies about that one!
The problem with these high powered/ cEDH type decks, is that they always use the same combos; it almost doesn't matter what commander they play, as long as they are in the colors needed to play the combo cards.
Honestly I think that’s just combo decks in general. Like if you’re playing Blue/Black I can almost always expect to see Thoricle combo. Even in casual decks I’m seeing it more now because it’s so easy to pull off. I barely run any combos in my decks, I’m more of a voltron/swing all my creatures type of player lol
I mean that's litterally not true. There are so many cedh combos and the ones played in urza are played in very few other decks. Isorev in some but it's typically not good enough for non mono blue / azorious. Power grim is basically used in no other decks and polymoprh for kraken exists in like 2 decks temur poly and urza. There are tons of unique combo and winning lines and most decks do not run the same except 4c/5c piles.
Not really... If you don't play blue/black, you can see many different Combos. Sure, Oracle + Consult/Pact is kinda boring and always the same. But outside of that specific line you can find many interesting ways to close out the game.
These combos feel even more unfair, when nobody counters them.
So just be in the same page.
Once again.. still waiting on that ringtone for the intro music.
Love cash and the channel. I just wish power levels were a little closer. I know it was discussed via rule 0 just prefer gameplay that is more back and forth. Great video and content regardless just feedback.
Cash and Ashlen have great energy together on camera!
Claims to be a god…yet doesn’t realize the artifact construct counts itself…. all hail my foil Eldrazi Queen overlord! Good game!
So that guy actually just sat there though.. 🤣🤣
Just smilin' 😂
We need a Joe/Posty/Cash/Someone else game where it’s competitive decks. It’s really dope seeing everybody have fun and still laugh and joke around when there’s more comp decks at the table and I think it’d just be really fun to see that when they’re ALL playing comp decks
Devin is such a nice guy. I wanna see him catch a W soon!
He is so nice! We randomly met at Star Wars Celebration and I invited him to be on the show based on that meeting. He’s definitely the homie and will be at MTG30 in Vegas if you wanna get some games in with him!
Didn't Cash scry before drawing that Force?
one went to bottom one went to top, he drew 1 fresh card
Cassius is always playing with that power.
Cassius is now the foil god. So does that make posty the foil king?
How did Cass pay for force of Negation?
If you had got all that glitters on your first light paws trigger you would have won but I understand wanting max protection. You never needed the pro black red so the pro green blue could of been fetched off your ethereal armor
As usual, great episode!!!
Tough game for all y’all but you did say you knew what you were getting into and chose violence. All y’all almost came out on top. Way to come together !
Give the guy with possible CTE the blue Urza deck that's a bold move
So many tutors by Cassius, he could just get cyc rift.
Even if you think you gonna die or not, you need to say you have a response before the search. You can't just just be like ops I now know I'm gonna die so let's put it in reverse.
Light paws had double strike🤷♀️
Someone get this man the millennium puzzle because he has the best top deck in the world
I love that this is just EDH with friends vibe. It doesn't have to be perfect just laughs and fun.
Half this video is watching players tutor and forgetting they can draw one card each turn.
What’s the other half? 🧐
@@TabletopJocks the other half was watchng players go, "uhhh, um, hmm... and then not know how their decks work." Game was a just watching 1 dude fumble through his shit while the other players were locked out. 1 game episode like this made me think players were like "you want another game" and regular commander players were like nah you do you bro and BN only keeping Cass bs around for the $ and the "fame" alignment.
BN, richest dude you played with has been Post and hes also the most down to earth dude in videos Cass is a terrible guest that drinks his own hype juice.
This escalated quickly 😳
People are in their feelings today that’s for sure 🤣
They brought a plastic spoon to a gun fight.
Where can we find that 🔥 sweatshirt Blackneto?
Which one?
Judge call😂 did he roll or flip for crypt
what does he end up doing with the infinite mana tho? cant just win with that
With Urza's ability he can play his whole deck. One of the cards in his deck are probably thassas oracle or Jace, wielder of mysteries.
he actually doesn’t have a win in his deck. he’d probly be able to bounce all the non land permanents of his opponents but as best i can tell, he is stuck with combat damage as an eventual wincon (mostly with the construct). he doesn’t even seem to have any twister loops
After Timetwister, each opponent would still draw one.
Cedh vs 3 casual level decks. No one knows their decks and a turn 1 urza is almost pointless to watch.
My buddy runs a straight up jank light paws deck. Turn 3 and it's usually a wrap because hes popping off
ooofff.... that wheel was salty for my taste
Love the new set up very focused game play.
Cash with another high powered deck so Joe had to play Light Paws, feel bad for the other 2 bystanders 😅
When next you play Cassius be sure to play an Energy Flux.
Yea you guys will be fine for sure 👍 lmao
cassius wildin'
Question for someone on the patreon, can you get past alter sleeves? Would love to cop a lotus petal
In December I’ll be releasing all of the sleeves for purchase during my birthday week!
unless i missed 3 mana worth of mana rocks for cassius and atleast one of them being for colored mana that wasnt infinite
also where was card draw how do u play all the things? wild ending even if it was true should have been explained
@zacharyivey4259 great question, looking at his decklist I have no idea how he wins from there
Note to self… if I ever face Cassius in edh. Target numero uno
How can I be a guest and play against you guys
Once we hit our Patreon goal I’ll be choosing someone to come on the show once every month! You can get some spelltable games in if you’d like to with us on discord!
www.patreon.com/tabletopjocks
11:57, aura*
Leaf Hurricane!!! Light Paws is so good.
I scooped on that rapid hybridization.
Wow. Time Twister with Narset out is good fun. Only thing better would be to do an overloaded Cyclonic rift and then do the Twister..
I shit you not. I literally said watch cassius go “island-Jeweled lotus-Urza. Make karn-struct-pass”.
AND HE DID IT
The sad thing was that he had to read urza after cast to know what it did
@@kylerippenhagen1052 you do realize that he was probably reading it for the people at home watching who didnt know what Urza does because they dont play him or see him enough to remember
Well, that was.. "fun"
JAJAJAJJA Foil Overlord
Urza was several power levels the other decks. Not really a fair set up for the table.
Here's a question: How many folks out there have even seen a not proxy time twister in person at a casual edh game?
I’ve played with several. I think that’s just the playgroups I play with though. I see it as much as I see mana crypt. Also, we all had fun and we knew what we were getting into. It was a fun challenge for all our decks!
Thanks for the reply! In the end, your group having fun is most important. You are right to point that out. I also didn't take into consideration your groups off camera rule zero conversation.
Thank you for the good gameplay videos. My next comments will stay more positive. :) Take care.
Light paws really did just start searching deck while urza trynna do math if they needed to counter , uh honestly forgot what Ashlen was playing but she even was like questioning if something was going to happen as light paws was tutoring like bruh chill give em the chance to math lmfao tht interaction was so uncomfy lol
But also Cassius please build lower power lvl decks for these pods man it's cool every now and then but it really is the pub stomp regularly CEDH into edh is weird xD regardless of rule 0 and peeps being like uh sure lol
Ehh hard to say. It seemed like he let the daybreak resolve until he saw all that glitters come out. Players shouldn’t do anything until a spell has resolved to avoid interactions like that.
Yeah, friendly game but still should not have announced search until Cassius confirmed not countering. But it also didn't sound like Cassius was countering until he heard the target.
I think it's actually difficult to build a good low/medium powered deck. It's easier to build a cedh deck they have a well established list of staples.
@@DuxBellorum13 Cass said "Toot that thang.." which was a sign that he let the spell resolve.
Lessons learned:
1) turn 1 Urza is BONKERS
Opponents would still get to draw 1 card with Narset out.
Check that pinned comment 😅😉 thanks for noticing though!
Cass really out here tutoring every turn, playing CEDH decks with high power and playing super expensive cards but misses so many things, is the only one taking takesys backsys. Dude how you gon counter a spell AFTER the spell hit the ground and all that, I get it but having someone take back their whole ass turn isn’t too fair
Thank you preach, I would’ve not let that happen
Urza is broken :)
The amount of ‘commercial breaks’ for ads was ridiculous for a 30 minute video…
CZcams Red fixes that!