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No centre stand... no problem ‖ A £33 jack for the BSA Goldstar 650...
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- I've been sent this super little motorcycle jack from Kiwav. It's time to test it and see if it has a worthy place in our tool kit....
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Brick was wrong side of wheel, the danger is the bike rolling forward off the side stand so block the front of the wheel. Or tie the side stand to the front forks with a bungie.
Noted Lumpy, weirdly however when I tried this without the block whenever it wanted to move it went backwards not forward. I think perhaps the side stand foot is raised up and not making contact with the floor properly. From now on I'll apply the brake lever lock so it can't go forward or backwards. Your not the first to say the block was in the wrong place. Thanks!
What a natty little tool makes it much easier to lube your chain than pushing the bike a few feet at a time.
My thoughts exactly Ian. I hate doing the pushing your bike faff. This of course, is still more work than popping it on a centre stand like my Meteor 350, but that's the state of play we find ourselves in.
I use a piece of wood under swing arm
Front wheel against wall so it can't roll off side stand.
Me too
Good thinking Batman 😁
what a great little tool 👍
Not bad to be fair! Thanks BP.
I have seen similar but but this is probably the best I've seen. Excellent device and good demo.
If you are in a spot without one, I have seen someone lean the bike left over the side stand and secure the bike to a tree with a cargo strap. That was only a TW200, I don't know how big you could go with that.
Excellent video, thanks.
Thanks very much Tim. This bike is 200+ kg do I'm a bit skeptical messing about with it. It's also running tubeless tyres which is a problem for touring without the tool or any method as you describe. I think I'll have a practice with this and some tyre levers and end up taking spare tubes with me! Cheers, Sean
A neat little video about a neat little product! It's always helpful to see how this works in practice.
Yes Luddite, as silly as it sounds I had to practice with this to get the right mounting point, so it wouldnt move then you jacked it up. In the notch in the swing arm it's nice and snug. I hope other owners will find this useful. Cheers, Sean
Hi Sean and Suzie, purchased one of these and use it on my Speed 400 - works great for chain maintenance (chain's on r/h side also). I chock both sides of the front wheel and lock the front brake! Thanks for the video and recommendation.
Thank you JPL, appreciate the comment and feedback. Glad it is working well!
Great video nice practical presentation 👍🏻
Thanks Andy, that's appreciated 👏
Great little gadget. Many years ago my riding instructor used to tilt his bike onto the side stand and hold the bike up with his shoulder while lubing the chain. This device would have made it easy for him but probably would have taken longer - he did it so effortlessly. I’ve done it my self with a much lighter bike but he had a V Twin.
I've also seen and admired someone turning a bike around on the side stand, also effortlessly. I've never quite had the courage to pull that one off! Thanks.
Very nice little tool to carry with you when you ride. Low cost, but a great value. Thanks for sharing guys. Beautiful day by the way. Ride safe and take care. Cheers from The States.
Thanks very much Rick. Appreciate the comment especially from a stateside viewer. Nice for us to have an international audience. I work for a New Mexico based company so I do often speak to and get along with Americans! Cheers!
@@MindfulMotorcyclist Your Welcome. Take care.
That looks like a really good product.
Trying to be transparent, it took a few goes fiddling to learn where to seat it and to remember to lock the front wheel. First attempt on gravel road with big potholes wasn't clever 😂. Now I know what I'm doing with it, very happy. I tried to give any BSA owner a clear guide so they can use it from the start... Thanks Wayne.
Thanks again for these videos. I just ordered one for from Kiwav looks like it may function way better than the two "one-leg jacks" I currently use to mixed success. Appreciate you bringing this to our attention. About $47.00 total delivered to the Untied States. Ride on!
Thanks Richard, appreciate the comment and the vote of confidence! 👍. What bike do you have out of interest? Cheers, Sean
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I have two bikes; a 2018 Moto Guzzi V7 Milano (with center stand) and a 2023 Suzuki SV650 without...but it is liquid cooled (I live in the Mojave Desert) ...and without major surgery to the exhaust system you can't fit a center stand. I will buy a BSA the minute they are introduced to North America.
Wish I’d known about one of these before I bought a paddock stand which I only use for oiling the chain… Still might come in handy when out and about.
Thanks Nigel, I've got front and rear paddock stands too and they take up a lot of room. They are for my other bike!
Now that's impressive 👍👍🏍️
I did make it look easy, usually with mechanical stuff I make it look hard 😂. This must be easy to use...
When you get a flat you call your road service for pickup. Nobody is going to replace a tube on the side of the road 🛣️ anymore.
I might do just this from now on...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist GEICO has unlimited towing service for $20 over the price of full coverage insurance. 75 mile range.
Can park front wheel up against a wall when at home.
Most center stands cost $500-$600nz not cheap I use a paddock stand at home but that little jack be handy if got panniers.
Thanks RR, appreciate the comment. Sadly BSA won't make a CC as an optional extra. For chain lube this is now my go-to. I do have paddock stand at home for my track bike but they take up a lot of room tbh. Of course on the road this is portable and convenient. Thanks 😊
Very useful tool, indeed 😊
Thank you Mark. Does the Rebel have a CC? Perhaps an extra from honda? I know your Meteor has one.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist no centre stand, on Rebelene. Sadly.
Impressive piece of kit I would say well worth buying even if you just want to raise your front wheel which is sometimes necessary one thing occurred to me and that is if their is a weight limit of any sort ? although it would push the weight onto the side stand I guess when doing the back wheel 👌👍
Hi Crumbly, thanks for the comment. There is no weight limit for the jack stated, though it is designed for Adventure bikes so I'm sure it can take a fair bit. I think owing to the fact you can raise it by hand without hurting your palm there can't be that much weight on it. As you said most will be on the side stand and some through the front wheel. I expect with a robust weighing scales you could find out. Bikes total weight is 200kg, so I'm sure scales will be rated for a large human perhaps 130kg. Of the three contact points it'd surprise me if any exceeded that sort of number. Most surprised the jack works when you've got the exhaust and drive chain down there in the way! Cheers, Sean
@@MindfulMotorcyclist A good piece of kit cheers Sean 👍
It's great to see a small company add a personal touch with a note like that. Do you think there's anything on the BSA that would prevent the fitting of 'bobbins' to use paddock stands?
Hi Mark, I believe it's not possible to fit bobbins to the BSA as the spindle has a large nut on the end. A few companies now manufacturer adaptor plates that have small holes drilled in them to facilitate paddock stands. I actually do have two paddock stands in the shed, very useful they are to, but this little thing I can take away with me. Right I'm off to oil the chain! Cheers, Sean
Great gadget, hope they sell well 👍
I hope so too, particularly because the lady who sent it to me couldn't have been nicer. That goes a long way in when I purchase something. Thanks.
Brilliant little tool I have a centre stand but on my next bike will not spec up a centre stand and save some $$ thanks
Wow Malcolm I suppose this is an option. I didn't have it down as a centre stand replacement but a plan b if you bike cannot accept one. That said I was reading RIDE yesterday and I noticed a Suzuki centee stand option is £276 on their 800RE adventure bike, not cheap at all! Cheers, Sean
Well that’s a no brainer the Suzuki 800 re has tubeless tyres so don’t need a centre stand only need to lube the chain so this universal jack will do the job
A lot of Chinese products from Amazon have those 'hand written' notes. They are printed.
Well even if they print a note in handwriting with my name and the top and the individual I've been talking to on email written at the bottom it's still a lot more personal than most companies.
Forget a Jack you need an anchor with that wind!😂
Luckily I've got a boat anchor... as another commenter harshly named the BSA 😂😂
Yes, that brick should be in FRONT of the front wheel to stop the bike rolling forwards off the
side stand!
Thanks Raymond, you are the third person to comment as such... that makes sense BUT and it's a big but, when I trialled this the bike rolled backwards and off the jack. Of course not much danger of the bike falling over as side stand still in place just if you had the wheel off it would be a pain etc. I think next time brake lever lock so bike cannot move forward or back. All bases covered then! Cheers, Sean
tie wrap the front brake lever
Good idea!
Hey, im the guy that placed the decat on the BSA before you. I had really lean mixture on the exhaust and doing the ecu at night the decat turned worrying red.
I put back the bike on stock until warranty passes away and Ill fit too the new fuelx lite from hitchcocks in a far future.
Would you like to try to let it idle 10-15min at night to see if you have the same tube glow issue?
Hello again, I haven't tried to let it ideal. We have neighbours and to let it run at night for 15 mins would disturb them. If I go for a night ride I will check. I think removing the cat will cool the exhaust because it will allow hot gases to exit more quickly. However, perhaps the stock downpipe is thicker and therefore does not get as hot. I am also going to try the fuel X, not only will it richen the mixture but it will also stop any stop start snatch on the throttle. It is 2 months until I can visit Hitchcocks however... Thanks for the comment and suggestion!
@@MindfulMotorcyclist i understand. The problem i have found that when I pot the decat the mixture is leaner than stock, with more airflow but same fuel the combustión is hotter on the exhaust. Ill let you know once I apply fuelx
Please please please tell me you will put chock in front of wheel next time. Otherwise you will have matching damage on left too 😮
That's funny as when I tried this without the clock whenever it wanted to move it seemed to roll backwards? Your not the first to mention to put it in front however. Cheers, Sean
@@MindfulMotorcyclist It will want to push forward off the side stand. If it rolls back it will just scrape the floor. I put mine on full left head on to a wall. I never thought of using steering lock though. So that's a good idea. To be 100%, choc front and back.
Great if you touring
A good idea but a trip to a scrap yard would have got you one much cheaper I would have thought 👍
I don't know, its quite a specific tool. I've spent a youth mooching around scrap yards and you'd find a much bigger and heavier jack I'd expect. Cheers, Sean
Yes, these are dead handy. Google Trail jack and there are dozens of pukka and DIY jobs out there.
Thanks Chris. Its funny that people don't mention them more often. A centre stand isn't an option for me, for £33 just to be able to oil the chain this is worth it.
@@MindfulMotorcyclist If you were in the off road/adventure community you'd see them mentioned all the time. To be honest until you made this video I'm never considered using one on a heavy(ish) motorcycle
@chrisjonesbath would those communities have bikes with a centre stand more often than not? Interested to know?
@@MindfulMotorcyclist An off-road or proper adventure bike (i.e. not a behemoth like the GS) would hardly ever have a centre stand more's the pity. They should really come with a trail jack attached somewhere on the frame like a good old bicycle pump used to.
Where do you carry the brick ??
😂 you can also use the brake lever lock or as others have said a bungee between the side stand and the wheel or park the bike against a wall. Be inventive! Brick only used for demo purposes 😂
i would be careful using that ;;;; if you don't have the right gear use a cable tie on the front brake - gently ;;
I should have fitted the brake lever lock I had in my hand, this would've avoided all the comments on which side of the tyre to place the block etc. Ah well, you live and learn 😊😊. Thanks Simon
I,v just seen on Temu for £18
There's all manner of unusual designs on there, I'd rather go with an item we know works and suits the Goldstar with its tricky drive chain and silencer spacing. Cheers, Sean
What a massive faff! having to carry a special tool to badly do what all motorbikes used to easily do!
You don't think we've all already said that many times. Of course, the community is narked off that BSA omitted a centre stand. We are where we are.
Is is bad that manufacturers are allowed to sell bikes without a centre stand, years ago they were standard with a side stand being optional, it is like selling a car without a spare wheel, wake up manufacturers.
Thanks for the comment. My dad recently bought a secondhand X3 and was surprised to see no spare wheel. Being a seasoned motorist he's buying a spare wheel so not to rely on that tyre sealant in a can thing! On the bike front I think it's a scam to charge extra for centre stands and heated grips etc. Certainly to charge £300 ish for each when you can buy the grips for £11 on aliexpress!
It's quite a clever tool, but it honestly would be a whole lot easier if all bikes just had a center stand like they used to. Chain drive sucks, chain drive and no center stand really sucks, but even so there are more chains and fewer center stands than ever on today's motorcycles, why do we accept it?
I agree, I do like this tool but I'd have like BSA to include a CC as standard on this bike. That wouldn't been just the ticket. I suspect someone didn't have the conversation during the design phase when the ABS pump was placed where it is. I don't mind chain drive on a retro model, I suspect shaft would look weird on a BSA. Thank you for the comment.
That might get you home in an emergency, but it looks horribly unsafe.
I guess its horses for courses, if you do your maintenance at home in a heated garage, bike on a mat with all your tools neatly displayed on a shadow board then of course this isn't the correct application. You'd have a paddock stand or bike lift. This tool is designed to be used on the road. There are three points of contact (the side stand, the front wheel and the jack). Provided the front wheel is not mobile or bike against a wall as others have said I see no reason why I wouldn't use it. Unlike a car we are not working underneath the vehicle. This is just used to raise the rear wheel 1cm so we can lubricate the chain. Thanks