The worst trade in NFL history.
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Trey Lance is the NFL’s biggest bust ever, and the 49ers know it. After giving up a ludicrous THREE 1st round picks to move up to acquire him, Trey has done nothing but struggle, and was ultimately sent to the Cowboys. What was the final straw? Well, it was just one drive in the Raiders preseason game that cemented Lance’s fate. This week’s episode uses the coaches all 22 to analyze ex 49ers Quarterback Trey Lance’s struggles in the NFL.
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It’s almost as if playing one year at North Dakota State did not prepare him for the NFL.
Well no shit. That is just a glorified high school
It's called _sarcasm_ ... recognized by those few with intelligence. @@redgoldrainwater5508
Yep Trey was a project QB but the 9ers expected him to get better by watching Jimmy G play 😂
@@redgoldrainwater5508 youre incorrect. Its a D1 football school that is in a conference that is just a step below big 10 D1 football. Its argued that it should be in the big 10. So its not D2 , or D3 which would be considered closer to high school.
@@miles4270A D1 school in a worse conference & weaker colleges. I like Trey too, but NDSU is not a great college.
As someone who bought Trey Lance’s home and away jerseys back in 2021 believing he would be our franchise QB and is now planning to sell them to Crossroads later today, watching this video feels like extra pain.😞
I have bought them as well but I'm not selling mines. I wore one yesterday actually
@@DemonicAngelGaming1031I just need some cash for today
Same 😢
Too bad you couldn't sell them for draft capital
@@BoondockGore I would have to sell mines if I got that back lol
Credit the 49ers for cutting their losses and having a back-up plan at least. A team like the Browns would've just thrown him out there and hoped for the best.
The backup plan. Brock Purdy.
The 49ers get zero credit. This was their fault entirely.
Plan... What plan? Choosing Hoyer over Kaepernick (even washed out Kaep was better)? Choosing not to even scout Mahomes or Watson because they wanted Cousins and pivoting before they got him to Jimmy G? Thinking Jimmy is not enough but not getting Brady as a free agent or trade for Stafford? Going up to the 3rd overall pick without a "conviction" on the player you will choose and doing your research after moving up? Keeping Jimmy and not playing the most raw QB prospect (if you develop by sitting I'm sure that with over 40 years experience sitting I'm so much better than any QB out there)? Lucking into the QB of the future with your last pick? Where oh where is the Fing plan?
THNAK YOU. Kyle has handled the QB siutation worse than anybody else in the league. @@Daniel-dz4cw
@Daniel-dz4cw stay out my head bro! Lol
To be fair, Kyle and John will probably draft a better player with the 4th rounder than they would've with the 3 1st rounders.
Ain’t that some shit. Smh.
Truth spoken, they really need to see about cloning Bill Walsh, since he was able to see that Jerry Rice
Was going yo be all time great just by watching a few highlights on the local station…
Yeah with the pick they got from the cowboys 😂
@@slickjimbob7659 🎊Congratulations! You got the joke👍🏼
they probably would have used those 3 picks on 3 busts instead of just 1
J.T. O'Sullivan just broke Lance's most recent game down on the QB Room, and he looked awful. He was trigger-shy on most passes, and he completely missed open reads, pulled the ball down, and created dirty pockets by moving around for no reason. After having watched that, it seemed to be a systemic issue w/ him. I can't imagine that these were deficiencies that would be easily remedied anytime soon, and I don't think that he'll make it in the League. He just doesn't have the pattern recognition skills or the confidence to take the necessary shots.
Imagine being the only QB unable to excel with the 49ers offensive playbook, kinda of embarrassing.
@@notaspy1227I'm wondering if a change of scenery won't be a bad thing for him. He has the physical tools to play the game at this level, but he's pretty clearly playing scared. I'm wondering if he got the idea in his head that his mistakes would be amplified, and it would cost him the job in San Francisco. Maybe, on another team, he learns to relax and play up to his ability.
No he didn't. He shows flashes. Kye and John Lynch fucked his development up by not playing him. This is their fault. Not his.
They played him and he got hurt #3 times!...you need some cheese and crackers to go with your whine?@@antonioiniguez1615
@@antonioiniguez1615Lol what an awful take
That "pause" got me 😂
That pause was right on time 😂
I was like “…phrasing…”
If Brock has a good year, it will offset the hilarious mismanagement here. They found what they needed in a place they weren’t looking.
Except they WERE looking because they drafted him. So they saw something enough to draft Purdy
@@vikman258 thats a stupid statement. He's anything but a game manager. The kid was averaging 33 pts a game last year with a QB rating of 107 and a passer rating of 69. You ppl label him and obviously dont know much about his throwing abilities.
@@wicked1rishBrock is Tony romo. Y’all traded 3 first rnders for Tony romo.
@@MiguelJimenez-uc3yzwe were not looking for our new starting QB in the 6th rounf of LAST years draft
@@sald00mvaughn57 why not? Jimmy was gone. Trey wasn't proven yet.
You throw a dart to see if it you can get lucky
Yeah this is why I was never very enthusiastic about the selection for us. Trey's lack of collegiate experience could have been an easier pill to swallow if Shanahan/Lynch didn't move heaven and Earth to take him, but they clearly were too ambitious with the idea of what Lance could be. And any kind of injury risk was just too much for how far he was already behind the 8-ball. Didn't think the current braintrust would rival the infamous 1978 trade for OJ Simpson disaster orchestrated by Joe Thomas, yet here we are.
Well at least unlike 1978 active trading and free agency can help a team recover from bad decisions faster.
On the other side of the coin, there is also the ominous salary cap crunch…
You said it _"they clearly were too ambitious with the idea of what Lance 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗹𝗱 𝗯𝗲"_ That is EXACTLY what happened that too many people are overlooking. It was the prospect of what he "might" be versus really being able to see what he was.
I'm with you. Any other Niner fan I talked to were 100% against Mac Jones. I didn't think Jones was great but I thought he'd have been a better fit than a guy who played 11 games in 2 years North Dakota State.
I’m a Niner fan too. I remember watching his highlights on draft day when they selected him and I’m thinking okay all of his runs and completed passes there were no defenders within a mile of him or the receivers. And I remember thinking they mortgaged the future for this guy? Thank goodness they lucked out with Brock. I guess Trey has weird hair and kind of looks like Mahomes so they figured he was going to be another Mahomes. Agree if Trey fell to them at the end of the 1st round I wouldn’t have cared. I might have even liked the pick.
It take a massive trade failure to eclipse the Hershel Walker fiasco and to a much lesser extent the Ricky Williams trade.
I don't even see how they're even in the same ballpark. Yes it's a terrible trade... but in the history of terrible trades this is hardly the worst.
This does not even come close to the Hershel walker trade. that trade turned the cowboys into what we know today. By far and away the worst trade in history.
@@chad2522true, and its unlikely the dolphins turn into the cowboys. But Ricky and hershel were still good/great players at least. This might not be the worst trade but it was the dumbest and most unexplainable trading that much for a guy from d2
Trey wasn't a failure. It's physically impossible to be a failure after 4 games. Peyton Manning AVERAGED 20 INTs thru his first 5 seasons.
According to your logic, they shoukd have traded Manning and cut their losses after 4 games because he was a failure
@@paidtourist6563It is literally PHYSICALLY possible when he has an injury history like his. He's certainly not a career failure at this point (I mean he's only 23, there's rookies older than him), but he was a failure with the Niners. It's about as clear of a cut your losses moment as it gets even if in the future with hindsight it does end up looking like the wrong decision. Purdy picked up the system. Is he as high upside? I think most would say no. But since Purdy's floor is ground level and Lance's is Death Valley, you can't keep staring at the stars for 2.5 years hoping they'll align the way you thought/hoped they would. Calling him a bust doesn't have that same kind of angry undertone as when people call Jamarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf a bust. As a Niner fan myself, I don't wish failure on Lance in the future (though I don't necessarily root for success for the Cowboys themselves) and I don't think anyone else does either. It's just become like a "I don't wish for you not to eat, I just don't want you to eat at my table anymore" kind of situation at this point.
Edit: I know one game means nothing and QBR isn't a perfect measuring stick, but Purdy is at the top right now. With a bigger gap between him at 1 and Stafford at 2 than there is between Stafford and Garoppolo at 4. Wait Jimmy G at 4? Maybe I should delete this edit to my argument. Oh well
At first I was like, okay this title is a little much/too soon, then I really appreciate how you explained, multiple times, that the fact he's the biggest bust has a lot to do with SF's initial misjudgement and overreach. Now that is a compelling argument! And good vibes at the end too.
He was drafted to a offense he doesn’t fit in and the coach isn’t a fan of his style of quarterback remember RG3 they really wanted cousins to play
There needs to be another draft day movie about how the laremy tunsil trade completely changed a franchise and how it lead to one of the most one sided trades in the last century
And he only fell to the Dolphins because of the bong video drop. Huge drama.
How could we have gotten this so wrong? Disappointing when you consider we could have drafted O and D lineman with those picks, which we really need now!
Shan and Lynn normally draft busts with high first round picks. Bosa is the only one that has worked out so far.
@@b12345bband bosa stays injured all the time too lol
@@SavvyMon4 define "all the time"
The Mahomes effect has made NFL GM's braindead. Everyone scrambled to find the next unicorn. Never mind the fact that Mahomes sat for a year, was mentored, and is playing with one of the best Offensive Minds in the NFL.
Trey Lance and Zach Wilson showed red flags pre draft. But GM's loved those wild throws and evisioned a Mahomes of their own. He can't read defenses and has sloppy footwork but just look at that arm strength!
Did Trey Lance not also sit for a year, get mentored, and play for THE best offensive mind in the league? I guess he was injured that first year so not as many good practice reps
@@connorleblanc5435Andy Reid betta
What people don’t know or forget is Mahomes is a football genius with a photographic memory. Can have all the talent in the world don’t matter if you don’t have it upstairs
@@KevonDaDon
Well said
@@connorleblanc5435But they werent starting out even. Mahomes was already miles ahead of Lance when he was a rookie and still sat for a year. Lance could sit 3 years and still not be as good as Mahomes was as a rookie.
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Wow, thanks! So glad you like it, I love when people learn more and because of it enjoy it more 👊
Would love to send this to all the Trey Lance fan boys who can’t let this go
I mean to say it's the worst trade in nfl history is hyperbole.
@@Jetsua02 it really is. The Niners are stacked. That’s why they could afford to make the move. Ultimately, sunk cost fallacy. Move on. Go win the Super Bowl!
Wow a few bad plays after coming back from a horrific injury. Unfair situation. How can u label someone a bust when they only started 4 games ?
Man shattered his ankle and he’s evaluating his first game back let’s be real man the coach never wanted Trey Lance just like he didn’t want RG3
@@AD-ur1fkit’s been THREE offseasons, and Trey has lost BOTH his jobs and there are too many late round QB’s who are BETTER than Trey. You just want to hold on as opposed to admitting that you were WRONG smfh
As a 49ers fan this is how I see it ! We lost big at the casino and on the way home had two dollars in my pocket bought a scratcher at the gas station on the way home and hit the jackpot with purdy!
Haha
Niner fan here- the Trey Lance trade was stupid and a failure before it even happened. Replacing your QB with a ROOKIE the year after you went to the Super Bowl and your entire team is in their prime was NEVER going to work. All it did was put sky high expectations on Trey and set him up for failure. Plus- the Niners could have packaged Jimmy with ONE first and gotten any veteran QB in the league. We'd have at least one ring since then... But no- we instead have the worst trade of all time.
With a veteran qb we would not be able to afford the other talent we brought in. This team is built to have a qb on a rookie contract. You would have to choose: veteran qb or Bosa, for example.
why do you think qb's get picked that high and they're such a wanted commodity? it's because you're expecting them to at least be kind of pro level when they arrive in the league.
niners could have gotten a dude out of san mateo but instead opt for chad looking gio.
I love it.
Still think they should've traded for Stafford. I don't see that the Rams offered any more than the 9ers could've offered.
Some of the people who covered the 49ers in practice this year, for example Guy Haberman, have pointed out that one of the biggest problem areas for Trey Lance to throw to is the flat to his right side. Look at the plays that Shanahan dialed up on this first drive, the right flat was never targeted by Shanahan, apart from the checkdown option on the 3. play. He didn't put two training wheels on that bicycle, but four.
I'd love to listen to those people when Brock Purdy attempts anything over 15 yards, ESPECIALLY to the right side of the field.
@@CJStew06 Purdy’s 40.7 percent completion percentage on throws 20-plus yards down the field ranked 12th in the NFL last season.
@@robbiearrowsmith6006 The question is how often he throws that.
But I don't see the problems. Throw for yards, not throw it to the yard right away
@@CJStew06 Best deep ball completion percentage in the NFL this year says what?😁
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Lance has all the hallmarks of a guy who's spent his entire career from pop warner to college being the fastest and/or strongest and/or most overall athletic player on the field. His physical skills were always enough, so he never bothered to develop his mental game. But that shit just doesn't fly at a professional level--everyone on the field was the fastest, strongest, most athletic kid on their amateur teams. The good news for Lance is that in theory, at least, there's no ceiling on intellectual development like there is physical talent. He has the potential to learn the mental side of the game and become a great player. The bad news, however, is that pros in their 20s who don't already have a solid grasp on how to develop their mental game usually don't figure it out in time to not become epic busts. There are plenty of past examples of this, but one recent player who comes to mind is Zach Wilson. Dude runs around and chucks it up with the best of them, but can't stand in, read the linebackers/safties, and consistently make 10 yard--or 5 yard--completions. Luckily for Wilson, he's going to get to sit and watch an all-time great reader of defenses, so maybe he'll be able to learn the skill, and maybe Lance will too (although I'd hardly call Dak "great" or even "good" at reading defenses). But history doesn't suggest that either of them will do it.
Bust? After 4 starts? That’s enough of a sample size for you? Lmaoooo.
Did you watch the video? Or just comment as soon as you saw the title?
the thing is: you don't have a legit sample until 3 full seasons. There are HOF qb's (steve young, bradshaw, warren moon) who did not show off any promise until at least year 3.
@@flowthrupranayama exactly. 80 snaps ain’t enough to put the bust label on them
Anyone who says 3 starts is enough to judge a QB isn't a serious person.
@@antonioiniguez1615 That’s the thing though. It’s not just 3 starts. It’s training camp, it’s practice, it’s the work he’s putting in in the film room and during the offseason. Opportunities are not just in game opportunities and most players in the NFL have to work up to becoming starters. They have to take advantage of those other opportunities before being named a starter, and the only reason that’s being overlooked here is because he was taken with the 3rd overall pick. That “highly drafted” long leash eventually runs out and you have to show progress with those other opportunities like any other player. He didn’t, so they traded him.
Sometimes you can tell just by looking at a dude that they’re not it… that’s exactly the feeling I got when I first saw Lance.
I know this isn’t how it would work, but SF had the #12 pick before they traded up. If they had stayed out at #12 (where Parsons ended up being drafted), a Bosa / Parsons DE duo would have been absolutely insane.
“Swallowed by 3 massive dudes.. pause”😂😂😂😂
Alex, you nailed it. One of the things I've been yelling about Lance. Receivers are open, "NFL open." This being his third year, he should have figured it out.
Alex is great. He is absolutely right about this game. I think a lot of it comes from the long layoff and injury honestly. I say that because there is more than a handful of plays in the Denver game he chose right pre snap and made solid decisions. Arguably his best throw of his young career came against the Bears to Ray Ray on "Drift" so its not like he can't do these things. When a player needs reps it doesnt matter how smart they are and how much they watched, being the driver is very different.
Alex just broke it down simple for you content creators. Lance is not a good NFL QB. If you guys want to be taken seriously you come with proof like what Alex does. Otherwise you’re all just unnecessary drama.
Thanks brother! I agree
but Purdy came into the middle of that 2022 Miami game with BARELY any “reps” and won that game for the Niners.
and with the way Purdy is playing, i’m betting he would have WON that first game against the Bears in Chicago last year.
Karpernick had the same problem with not being able to read the defense and not quick enough to read his recievers.
I feel bad for the kid. Truth is, he never should’ve been taken in the 1st round let alone the top 5. He has talent for sure, so getting traded was the best thing for him. Now he can learn the NFL game without all the pressure of Shanahan’s idiot decision. Giving up three 1st rounders for a one year starter at a D1-AA program has to be the worst draft pick in NFL history. Especially since the 9’ers could’ve given up their #12 pick and a 2nd rounder to move up to 8 or 9 to get Justin Fields and they would’ve at least been to the NFC championship by now if not the Super Bowl.
It’s really incredible how if Brock wasn’t drafted Shanahan might’ve been fired or the 9ers would have no competant QB and would be wasting multiple players’ primes. God Bless Brock Purdy!
The NFL falls in love with physical attributes like it's some sort of Madden video game. Much more of the intangibles go into the QB position. Just like Joe Montana and Tom Brady.
THIS
Trey Lance has the processing power of a Windows 98 computer
Great route breakdowns!
Thanks!
You can't call a man a bust after only playing in 4 games!
Yea this is a stupid take dude literally shattered his ankle less than a year ago people are acting like he doesn’t have decent nfl film
Of course, it's clear as day. The coaches and staff had a front-row seat to Trey Lance's every move in practice. They scrutinized him day in and day out. And let's be real, NFL coaches and staff aren't blind to a player's shortcomings. They know when someone just doesn't cut it. So yeah, he's a bust. They invested so much in him, there's no way they'd trade him unless they were absolutely sure he wasn't cut out for the NFL. It's as simple as that.
@@PresJoshington ummm that’s not a very smart take how about they have a pocket qb system Trey Lance is not a pocket quarterback even Joe Montana said so I think he knows a thing or 2 about playing quarterback, Trey Lance does fit in Dallas where the offense is meant for a mobile quarterback it’s almost like most of you’ll don’t actually know football 🏈
Purdy is their guy had to get rid of Lance so there’s no controversy the coaches never wanted him the owners wanted Lance
@@marlonbrando33 Of course, you're absolutely right. None of these coaches or staff members have a clue about football. It's clear that you're the smartest football expert out there, knowing everything about the game. Anyone who dares to have a different opinion than you clearly doesn't know football at all. I can already predict that you'll claim that the player in question failed because he was surrounded by too many good players. Oh wait, nevermind, it's just the system that's to blame for his failure, right? Please.
@@PresJoshington so you’re saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Drew Breeze would have won superbowls playing in Lamar Jackson’s offense?
Idk why so many people care yeah the Niners traded 3 players for a guy who didn't even finish college but their current position isn't all that bad. Sorry Tray should have finished school.
The only problem is they could have probably won a super if they would have used those picks for someone that could have helped the team.
The pause was crazy lol😂😂
"He gets swallowed by three massive dudes, pause" 💀
BTW just for heehaw comparisons, I still think Mike Ditka trading his entire draft to select Ricky Williams was the worst draft trade ever.
The biggest draft bust ever is JaMarcus Russell.
The biggest trade bust ever is either Herschel Walker to the Vikings or (ironically enough) Charles Haley to Dallas.
As bad as the Trey Lance trade and selection is, it won’t be close to either of these.
yea he's overexaggerating for views or a catchy title
I mean if you factor in the amount of capital invested for the trade, he kinda is. JaMarcus Russell was a bust but Raiders didn't give up a farm for him
For real! The fact that JaMarcus Russell didn't even bother to put in the work and basically took the money and ran really amplifies the bust. At least Trey was trying and also had a couple of injuries that set him back.
@@thecovesfI think it's worst
Lance was trying and still sucked
That's more worst then just simply not trying 🤣
@@JDBass36 But you have to factor the injuries to Trey in too. It cost him valuable practice and in game reps that are crucial for such a young QB. And thats where the fault lies with the 49ers, there was so much unknown with Trey because he had such little collegiate experience and didnt play D1. It was a total gamble.
The “worse” thing about JaMarcus is that he didn’t even care. From all accounts Trey was a good teammate and did put in the work.
Thats all you can ask. In the end, if it doesn’t work out, at least you tried to get there.
What makes JaMarcus the “worst” bust ever, IMO, is that he didn’t even put in the effort to compete
Steve Young retired in 1999. The debate about who was their best QB since revolves around Jeff Garcia and Alex Smith.
The Niners over-drafted. Just like how the Jets over-drafted Zach Wilson. So this is really on the Niners and not Trey.
I was sure this was going to be about Heschel Walker. The trade that turned the Cowboys into a Super Bowl winner and the Vikings from contending to yet again, falling short.
Ditka trading for what’s hits nuts rb, can’t even remember the name
Funny how Jimmy Johnson never takes any heat for his first move as GM which was a horrible one. Gave up the #1 overall pick for rag armed quarterback Steve Walsh.
@@chevy4x466 Ricky ended up a great RB. But it's idiotic to give up an entire draft for an unknown. Especially a non-QB.
@@ShiggyMiyamoRicky Williams was a Heisman winner just starting his nfl career. That isn't an unknown player. And runningbacks were alot more valuable in the pre scripted league.
@@chevy4x466 Ricky Williams provided some production for the Saints, the niners got 0 outta lance.
Also, I think Shanahan just fell in love with trying to nab a Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes unicorn, and being way overconfident at bridging the gap between Trey's inexperience, and the harsh reality at the pro level.
I think John Lynch wanted his own version of Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. Personally, Kyle Shanahan wanted Mac Jones because he was the prototypical quarterback that was the most nfl-ready.
Kyle makes ALL final decisions. There's ZERO chance Lynch would haphazardly pick a position as essential as the QB position without Kyle's say-so *especially* when it cost 3 first round picks.@@thecharmcityplayerbrandona8827
I completely agree.
The prospect of having that kind of QB married to Kyle's offensive scheme was just too tantalizing.
@@thecharmcityplayerbrandona8827 Ppl gotta let this go-Kyle Shanahan made the call on Lance. Maybe he regrets it, but he made the decision.
@@daneberhardt8658it’s a fascinating idea but those guys thrive out of structure, Kyle system lives on having everytime done on time and in structure so that would’ve never worked anyway I always wonder what Mahomes would look like in Shanahan system
6:52 “pause” 😂
You are by far the best at breaking it down every video and I appreciate you bro
Thank you brother!! I appreciate you too
For as as little value Lance has in the NFL, the niners are in a good position to compete for SB. In other words, the trade had minimal impact on the team. Thank you Brock Purdy.
Yeah, in order to begin to make up for multiple wasted 1st rounders, you kinda need to hit on a starting QB in the 7th round.
Every team has multiple wasted first rounders.@@shorewall
i wouldn’t say minimal impact. it’s the unknown factor. This team could have two super bowls, easily one. if they used those 1st rd picks on O or D linemen.
As long as Tony Mandarich exists, Trey Lance is not the total worst overall draft pick.
What hurts most as a Niner fan isn’t just how stupid “two timelines” style team building turned out to be…
But they coulda had Mac Jones without giving up ANY firsts by staying at 12 or whatever, or Justin Fields with just one first to move up.
They paid the highest price and got the worst of the three.
They also could have drafted Fields
It was the woke mob screaming the niners were racist possibly choosing Jones over Lance. How dare Lawrence, Wilson, then another white QB go in order. Neither of those two have panned out and what the niners gave up was ridiculous. As someone with half a brain, I have always been in the camp of draft the best freaking player available.
As much as I'd like those 1sts back, no. No no no no no. No McCorkle. And the guy with the racist argument, bro please grow up. No one would've said they were racist and no I don't care wherever you claim to have seen it that has had its link "mysteriously scrubbed off the Internet". Just stop. So many facts we can use to argue about who should've been chosen and why. Keep the political crap out of it. No one's trading draft picks so they don't look racist dipshit. Especially not when you're in the Bay
@@tokk3n-hj4xg Fields literally has no idea on how to read the defense
Don’t think you can call him the biggest bust in NFL history when you have guys like JaMarcus Russell. Lance lacks experience and playing time, dealt with injuries, and the fact that the Niners are in win now mode and needed his development to happen asap. If anything it’s the most reckless front office move that also hurt the player in the process.
As a Raiders fan I don't feel as bad about JaMarcus Russell now, thanks niners
Nah that man lied about watching a blank dvd, ain’t nothing crazier than that 🤣
@@chessnut13That was funny as hell I remember that 😂😂😂
You watch the tape we gave you?
Yeah of course it was really good 😂
@chessnut13 True but atleast we only spent 1 first rounder on JaMarcus
@@JimmyTheMagnificent yea that’s true, y’all didn’t damn near mortgage the team away like us 🤦🏾♂️
@@chessnut13bro they gave away 3 first round picks that’s not something light
Yes. Biggest bust ever.
Should have drafted Mac Jones.
Shouldn't have moved up. Jimmy was doing fine
Nah. Should've drafted Micah Parsons.
Why when fields was there
@@jameshollister8294 The dude who averages 150 yards per game? The only difference between him and Lance is that he has played a ton.
the thing is: you don't have a legit sample until 3 full seasons. There are HOF qb's (steve young, bradshaw, warren moon) who did not show off any promise until at least year 3.
Excellent breakdown! 🙌🏾
Thank you!
Excellent analysis!
Thanks!
The trade was the worst ever, but Trey is no bust, that narrative is going to look dumb as shit when he finally gets his shot.
You watched this video, saw the trouble he’s having reading defenses and making easy throws against backups in year 3 and still feel like all he needs is an opportunity?
@@webberthehedgehog the thing is: you don't have a legit sample until 3 FULL seasons. There are HOF qb's (steve young, bradshaw, warren moon) who did not show off any promise until at least year 3.
He won't get his shot in the NFL.
He'll only first need to go to the CFL and get experience for 3-4 years.
Then .. maybe....just maybe he'll get another shot in the NFL.
@@flowthrupranayama Incorrect. Steve Young QB'd at BYU at one of the most prodigious offensive units in college football for 3 years where he was then drafted into the USFL where he QBd for 2 years before going to TB for 2 years. In ALL those years Young *always* showed profound glimpses of greatness because that is what talent does _no matter the situation_ or no matter how bereft of surrounding talent a player may be .... it *always* surfaces. And *THAT* is what Bill Walsh saw in Young (and btw it's what Kyle sees in Darnold too). This is why the Trey / Young comparison is entirely bereft of reality.
Trey is a nice kid but hes not even good B league. I saw more out of XFL and USFL QBs.
Hey Alex I think it would be cool to see your old intro clips at the end of the videos to highlight the players abilities to wrap it up.
Just my opinion tho keep up the great work!
Oh that's an option. Put the old intro at the end. Ignore the old kind of annoying outro that says the same thing as the rest of the video
That's a cool idea, I wonder how I'd phase in the music though. I'll play around with it!
Let’s be real, the niners thought they had the next Patrick Maholmes. Hence giving up 3 1st rounders….
What makes it even sadder is that they probably traded a lil too much for McCaffrey as well
Yeah anyone of reasonable mind wouldn't take that trade back. CMC completely changed the entire dynamic of that offense.
This take is kind of a blunder on the level of going for Hoyer over Kapernic not scouting Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, not picking up Brady before he goes to win it all with a new team, using 3 1st round picks and a 3rd to go to the number 3 pick without having a plan, drafting a player just to give up on him after 4 starts and then trade him for a 4th rounder to a division and historic rival.
And then sending Fred Warner to face the media after the announcement that you traded said player while you went to do a pre-recorded interview for a radio that's aligned with your franchise
@@Daniel-dz4cw Kyle's a fking coward. And John is just a "Yes man"
Your comments are entirely void of consideration of reality. Period.
Hoyer was signed because he knew Kyle's system and was a placeholder and nothing more. Kap wasn't even under contract with *ANY* team and would've been an egregiously poor choice to run Kyle's system. They didn't sign Brady *BECAUSE* they'd just signed JG to a massive contract and couldn't afford to sign Brady without shedding talent to pay for the extra cost. And that season was a disaster of injuries too. Lastly --- context is everything. They didn't talk to the media the day of Lance being told he was QB3 as respect to him to give him time to consider what he wanted to do. The media felt *entitled* and then hurt because they weren't first addressed. They were obviously looking for suitable trade partners in that time. @@Daniel-dz4cw
😂… he’s gone, that’s all that matters. And you’ve got some revisionist history goin on as well
Trey might be gone, but he isn't the only one that should have left, sending Fred to face the media shows who has cojones in this front office, and it ain't Kyle or Lynch so I don't see the point of having them here after so many years and no SB
To be truly unbiased you could have included how he played at the end of the Broncos game. Also, he seems to look like a deer in the headlights on his first few drives, which is honestly probably from the HUGE amount of pressure he faces since he was traded up for by a SB ready team, but once he calms down and has a few drives he starts playing better. I don’t really think you can call him a BUST as much as you can call him a complete ENIGMA.
Totally agree and I’m a die hard niners fan. I watch 49ers content almost every day and this dude is totally biased. I think you meant the broncos game tho. Thumbs down on this video, unfair take.
Tbf he probably thought Kyle made his decision after the raiders game when In reality it was the day they signed darnold. I wouldn't call anyone with 4ish games played at a 1-2 record the biggest bust ever or even a bust at all, especially since the 49ers weren't even gonna trade him. it was only after the qb3 annoncment trey requested a trade. I think we need to look at what a bust is. Is it someone who isint good enough to be on the team or the nfl? Because there have been many cases of players succeeding after their first team.
@@Batmann29 exactly Joe Montana even said Trey Lance didn’t fit the system they want pocket quarterback and he is not that he fits Dallas system a lot better that’s why so many Dak Stans are panicking 😅
By definition, he is a bust because he was drafted so ehigh AND with trade capital on top of it. Until he corrects his career enough to salvage it, a bust is an accurate label.
I agree. He certainly has a lack of experience.
I was gonna do a song to this beat lol good video 🤙🏾
Yoooooo that was crawzy!!!
-Cam voice
there's a new football stat. its called "WORST TRADE OF THE YEAR"! Last year the broncos won that title. this year its the 49ers won it.
I've been upset they didn't take Fields from the jump. This just pours salt in the wound. I'm no scout but I was really excited to have Fields come to SF and was pretty surprised at what Lynch decided to do on draft day instead.
I was lower on Fields at the time but what disappoints me about Fields is that they barely considered him and wrote him off early. Just like how they didn't scout Mahomes or Watson-it's always bad process with SF and the quarterbacks.
'Junk-for-Brains' Justin is worthless.
@@CJStew06At least Fields was facing higher competition and had more games played than Lance.
@@YeTheGOATNoCapfields probably got hit with the Ohio St bias.
Fields would not work in this system either they don’t want mobile quarterbacks are you not paying attention this system is for pocket quarterbacks Trey Lance never fit what they wanted to do
Great stuff
6:53 at least he said pause 😂
I rewinded that like 3 times cuz i was confused why he said it lol
It was a bad trade before a selection was made. It was a bad selection. It was managed terribly from day one.
Even from a PR stand point, people who cover the 49ers have said that they never did anything to promote him either. Not even a picture at the stadium for the home opener vs Seattle in the game he got hurt as the starter. I don't know if that is true, because I wasn't there, but that's what Grant Chon says. Either way, it was obvious to anyone paying attention that Kyle and the 49ers had instant buyer's remorse.
Trey lance is the perfect example of how you can play when your confidence is shot
Imagine playing for a coach that never really wanted you just like RG3 did it could maybe ruin your confidence and career glad Lance is where he is wanted and loved 🥰
if u still need to "have confidence" all the while the offensive system is already catering itself to you, that's on you. professional player can't motivate himself?
He’s not a bust. He was never given a chance. That trade to go up in the draft by my Niners was the dumbest trade of all time and is a fireable offense if Lynch n Shanahan don’t win a Super Bowl this year.
lol... as soon as you step on the field, that's a chance. every down is a chance. every start is a chance. every preseason snap is a chance. wtf you talking about? what you wanted 5 years to develop him? you think 2 more years after 3 would make a difference? for what? we get a mediocre field reader with that might have a high ceiling of talent? we wait until we lose all our good players and start rebuilding again for him to be good. dafuq outta here with that pitty party shit
@@Slayyn1723 the thing is: you don't have a legit sample until 3 full seasons. There are HOF qb's (steve young, bradshaw, warren moon) who did not show off any promise until at least year 3.
@@Slayyn1723 It’s not a pity party. Trey might be a bust if he is then yeah that’s on him. The point is he never had a chance to develop or even prove himself. Alex smith had five full seasons before the team moved on from him. And he actually improved over time. Who knows if Trey will ever be a good QB but he hasn’t even had a chance is the point.
The best ability is availability, and Lance simply hasn’t had that.
Can't even use that excuse he literally isn't reading the field as Alex has shown
This is what happens when you draft a QB that has speed but no accuracy in his arm, unable to read the D and make the right decisions.Lance played just a hand full of games in college. Not enough to develop his skills when the first thing he thought about was running first when he felt a little heat from the Defense. Covid and his two injuries in back to back seasons didn't help his development either. The only reason he's being called a bust is because he was picked 3rd in the draft and he hasn't done crap in the NFL. But with time, more reps on the field in live games and under the tutelage of a QB coach, this kid might change a lot of people's thought of him. Even though I wasn't a 49'er fan and hate the Cowboys with a passion, I wish the kid good luck going forward.
How can he be bust when he wasn’t given a legitimate chance
They watched him every day in practice for years, how has he not gotten a legitimate chance? If he was good in practice there is no way they would have traded him for a 4. They gave him every possible chance there was
Right Alex! Yes everyone always forgets about practice days. Game days are one a week during the season. Practice is EVERYDAY!
The issue is the 49ers allowed media pressure to influence them. They were ganna take mac Jones or Justin fields. But they allowed the media talk them outta it
Justin Fields and Mac Jones are average QBs
People actually believe Kyle traded three first round picks just to ask the media, "what do you think?"
He picked Trey.
Absolute cope...Justin Fields set NFL dual threat QB records in year 1 of starting. Can you name his pass catchers that played for most of the year? Mac Jones is probably better than average, he just needed an OC.@@cncaliguy09
Mac Jones looked awesome because he had the best wR crew to throw to, including the Heisman trophy winner and he played on the biggest football
Factory in the country… when he didn’t have anyone to throw to,
Gee Mac all
Go the sudden doesn’t look like he is that special… I think Trevor Lawarence was the QB to get
He did, but Mac would of fit Kyle's system the best.@@andu1854
Partially on the other side of this trade, Miami, in the end, got 5 firsts, 2 seconds, and some picks from after round 2 for Laremy Tunsil. A couple of those turned into Hill and Waddle. And they ended up signing Terron Armstead in FA to fill in for Tunsil at LT. Lol
Trey Lance isn't the bust, it is Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch. The same individuals who looked at Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson and said pass, spent three #1 picks on a player with one full year of experience at a NCAA Division I school; and Trey Lance after a year under Kyle Shanahan tutelage, looks significantly worse.
Exactly, I can't stand how the status-quo is to defend Kyle because he must be right and smart and wouldn't possibly have created the entire situation...
@@CJStew06 Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch seem to be very good at a lot of things... QBs doesn't seem to be one of them.
Right who waits until YEAR 5! Ok lets get our QB!? Lynch/Shanahan do!
"The last straw was one drive in a preseason game against the Raiders" is just an insane thing to say after spending 3 first round picks to start a guy for 4 games.
Idc if you think Trey sucks, he never had a chance unless he was Patrick Mahomes right away. Kyle and John poured way more pressure onto him than was ever necessary and brought him into an environment that largely rejected him bc Jimmy G was already there-a terrible situation and environment for an inexperienced quarterback.
Had he just been drafted by a team like the Panthers or the Falcons, without all the draft capital, no one would be writing him off like this.
He's 23 years old, and still has plenty of time to write his story.
I appreciate this content creator's detailed and honest breakdown of the trey lance failure. There are those who want to turn it into some kind of social justice/race thing. The reality - after 3 full camps under Kyle Shanahan, trey failed to progress he simply could not absorb and process even the simpler read and route concepts, and process the info at game speed. He's not ready, thus not good enough (at least for Kyle's offense), and it was time to move on from him. That's life in the world of football. Simple as that.
Even more so because SF is in win now mode. They just don't have time to waste even a season.
@@shorewall agreed
Getting swallowed up by 3 massive dudes doesn't require a pause. Swallowing 3 massive dudes might require an embarrassing visit to the local ER.
2:39, both guard and tackle were way ahead of that snap heh
That Raider game was his first game action in 11 months. I think you're overreacting to obvious rust.
Talent ALWAYS finds a way to surface. Always. It's a golden rule.
What Trey showed was gross apprehension and indecision. Catastrophic indecision. It meant he didn't trust _himself_ . Even players who have been injured will still show a fluid execution of the _right decisions_ even if the result wasn't desired. Trey lacked guile, he lacked awareness, he lacked a sense of urgency.
@@daneberhardt8658 Did you see what Watson looked like after missing a year of football? He has all pro caliber talent.
Thank you for telling how it is… too many within our fan base thought this everyone else’s fault except his own
6:51 LOL
Love how at the end of the vid, even though you critique Lance you are still able to find the positive outlook that I think he shares with you: A fresh start in Dallas
Thanks Jon, I'm not trying to dog anybody here
Sitting and watching isn't the same as playing. To truly get experience this player clearly has to play and we needed him to be All Pro right away. Bad trade not because of his skill but because we had no time to let him make mistakes and grow. Peyton Manning threw 21 picks or something his rookie year.
No they didn't need him to be "All-Pro" right away. In fact the _opposite_ was the case.
They believed they could offset his rawness by surrounding him with elite offensive play makers, an elite play caller, the most QB-friendly system in the NFL *AND* an elite defensive unit. The running belief was _all he needed to do_ was just get the ball to the play makers *and* occasionally tap into his _supposed_ elite talent to make a play here or there. But that's where it all went off the rails .....
They realized after the first TC that his accuracy was attrocious and unreliable. He couldn't be trusted to effectively and *consistently* execute the essentials, the fundamentals without jeopardizing ball security. _This is why Shanny was forced to run him like a running-back_ . It was the *only* way he could get both experience and retain ball security. *THE PROBLEM* was they realized he isn't a natural runner, isn't elusive and had poor football instincts.
But the last straw was how difficult it was for him to execute the offense with quick reads and quick decisions going into the middle of the his 3rd TC .... when it had already been shown that a rookie picked up the offense and another former #3 pick also was picking up the offense too.
He had 3 off seasons to learn basic concepts and failed
@daneberhardt8658 Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions his rookie year but they kept rolling him out there.
No one held him back or criticized him so heavily. No social media to demand he be perfect NOW. He was allowed to fail and learn from it. Trey was given no such chance, your critique of him only proves my point.
@Fernando_616 he should have started day 1 but we were in a win now situation. You let players grow as they nerd, not as you need. We didn't have the luxury.
@@notfromhere8889 incorrect. A player gets drafted to and plays for a team… not the other way around. Hence its our timeline that matters, not his. He should have stayed in school another year
Everyone in that 49ers organization would have been fired if they didn't have the success they been having over these past couple of years. The crazy thing about it is they could have gotten Mac Jones and they wouldn't really have to trade for him because he would have been there at the original spot they were.
They wouldn’t be fired
6:48 😭😂😂😂
I saw Lance play in college live (fcs championship game), he was a freak athlete but barely threw the ball against JMU and won that game on the ground. He reminded me of Johnny Manziel but against less quality opposition so I was shocked when his stock got so hot. I think he’ll hang around in the league for a few years as a backup and practice squad player but I don’t think he’ll ever be a starter in the league.
I agree, Lance was insanely athletic. I read some NFL analysts questioning if he should be drafted to play WR but nobody wanted to even think about that considering his 28-0 TD-INT record during his FCS championship year. Why put the singlemost accurate quarterback in college football at a different position? I wonder how his career would've worked at a different position.
biggest bust of all time?
he has played 4 games, get fucking serious
Yea? As much as I hate counting injuries against people when you get drafted so high and are never on the field and the few times we see you doesn’t look like much changes that team didn’t get any return on their investment. So he’s a bust atleast in San Fran hopefully he bounces back.
he played 4 games for the team that spent 3 first round picks on him. brett favre was a bust for the falcons
Yeah seems premature, he's still young but if he does remains a backup and doesn't pull a Geno Smith then yeah he is
Biggest TRADE BUST!...read the title////
@@masterspin7796 The title and thumbnail imply different things. Im assuming hes talking about the thumbnail that says "Biggest Bust Ever"
Nice vid 👍
Thanks!
This title screen is me on Dec. 1
He's only 23 years old. He started in 4 games. Too soon to dub him the bust of the century.
Everyone is still playing catch up. 😂
Fun fact: my uncle is a die hard Niner fan and actually bumped into Trey a few weeks ago at a gas station before he was traded. He didn’t realize it was him at first because he saw him with a girl and he was rolling up a blunt. Till he actually got closer and saw that it was Trey. He approached him to say whats up and Trey talked to him for a quick minute but was worried that my uncle was gonna pull out his phone and record saying to my uncle “You don’t got a camera right?” That was basically the whole interaction. My uncle was annoyed seeing that he was more focused on smoking then actually learning to play.
Trey's weaknesses are hard to ever overcome and the first derivative of improvement trajectory is ZERO. The NFL is at an insane level above college.
It used to be, but today nfl dbs are garbage. They are fast and athletic but can't read, can't tackle, can't cover, they're just trash.
I was so ready to disagree with you on this video Alex, based on the thumbnail title. But after watching the entire video, you have a very solid point. I still am a believer that over time and actual game reps, Trey could be a very good QB. But the 49ers are built to win now, this will likely be the 49ers most talented roster over the next few years when the salary cap crunch becomes real (and they still have to fit the Bosa extension in). And the time simply ran out on Trey.
Injuries happen in the NFL, you obviously can't predict them but you have to adapt. Trey's injuries came at crucial times during his development and the 49ers need someone who is ready to bring this team to the mountain top. I hope Trey gets a chance to shine in the league or at least enough reps for a more accurate evaluation as a good QB or a true bust.
Thanks again for another great video.
But you forgot they get a fourth rounder for him back. That is what amazing 😂
At least he can enjoy those nice game checks while they last
And I quote “He had YEARS to learn”. 😂 dude 2 years in is “years” lol He even had less starts in college. He sat behind jimmy g those 2 years…. 😂
If any other organization made this trade the coach and GM would be fired, but because the Niners have such a good roster they keep winning every year and they lucked out with Brock Purdy they arent crucified for it. But that Lance pick considering the compensation they gave up is definitely one of the worst trades in NFL history. I do feel bad for Trey he definitely has talent he just needs reps. Maybe someday he will turn into a Geno Smith story. Ya never know.
The organization wanted Trey Lance not the coaches and you can’t throw the owners under the bus or you’ll definitely be fired pay attention remember they didn’t want RG3 and they ruined his career
Watching this video would make you think Lance is in his 1st season playing his first career game
you can’t say that trey lance is the biggest draft bus in history when there’s people like tim couch and jamarcus russell exists
Bro speak this into existence!!! I’m tired of the Niners getting a damn pass on this.