The Three Section Staff
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- An overview of the Three-Section-Staff a popular movie weapon.
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Movies/Games featured:
Heroes of the East 1978
Shogun’s Shadow 1989
Little Busters! 2012
The Victim 1980
Fearless 2006
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin 1979
Jujutsu Kaisen 2020
Family Guy
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Somewhere, some place somebody is laying in broken heap, clutching their balls.
Flails haven't killed many people in battle, but they've definitely prevented many births.
used to use tent poles like these whenever my family went out camping
Bhaaaaaaaaa😂😂😂
Who wouldn't?
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Hell yeah! Every time.
Me too man
that toji vs dagon fight was crazy
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We need a mf that uses a three section staff like toji
yuh
That anime trash shouldn't even be in this video. Idk how they know about this weapon
That isn’t the clip they should have used though, Maki vs Hanami had some way better visual usage of the three section staff.
I just wanna add a note of appreciation for putting the movie titles in the upper corner. Thank you!!
Regular spears and regular staffs, on the other hand, have been used by a multitude of countries for a very long time.
The spear has likely been around since our genetic lineage figured out tool use.
I'd argue that spears are still used by militaries, because that's what a bayonet turns a rifle into.
Yes and who knows maybe JJ can do some videos about spears like the Romans used or any others of that nature anyway have a Google and then maybe suggest that.
Never underestimate Simplicity.
That Jujutsu Kaisen clip cought me off guard
The Family Guy gag was an homage to Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Nunchuck but with more nunchuck
In ancient chinese martial art world, nunchucku & 3-Section staff were crudely translated as "Sectionised Weapon", these types of weapons required not just skill but also techniques to be effective, hence only master class practitioner will (or can) use them.
The fundamental technique of using "Sectionised Weapon" is the utilisation of acceleration speed via swinging force, the concept is much like how a spike ball flail works but using stick instead of spike ball, so that the welder can maneuver the weapon in a more flexible fashion (both ends are handle). The actual fatal or deadly force of "Sectionised Weapon" is on the "tip" of the stick, not (just) on the swing force, body weight of the stick, or the shape design.
Whichever way, you are very right about "Sectionised Weapon", they are more of a personalised "defensive" weapon than being an effective battle field weapon (compared to spike ball flail) & indeed required highly skillful martial art practitioner to use them.
I have one. I found using it is the fastest way to give yourself a concussion
Someone did some research into nunchucks and discovered that hitting an opponent with a stick of the same diameter and length as the nunchucks will do more damage than the nunchucks would. So this would also apply to the three section staff. It has the added advantage of being easier to learn and less likelihood of whacking yourself.
Was it Shadiversity? I know he did a video on it.
"Amount of damage" is rarely a major factor in real world weapon effectiveness. HP isn't real. Still probably not worth it but not a good argument.
The advantages of these weapons, insofar as they exist, is that the opponent isn't likely trained to deal with it so it's harder to block, and they can be used for grappling techniques. What would same length even mean anyway? Do you include the chain?
That's something to know and also for this video it's good and who knows what others out there maybe in another could do 1 on the repeating crossbow and also maybe do on clubs like the police baton is another among who knows what other topics and could go for MI-24 Hind and MIGs among who knows.
@@zhoufang996The same length.
And if a weapon hits harder or cuts easier it’s likely to be better than other options. Just because a weapon is unique that doesn’t make it good. Why do you think whips were never used in warfare?
@@immikeurnot I believe it was.
I was waiting for that Toji clip and you did not disappoint.
three section staff? nuh uh ❌
playful cloud? yuh uh ✅
I got hooked on the three-section staff as a weapon after seeing the really cool uses of it in Jujutsu Kaisen. Lots of cool action sequences for a pretty underrated weapon!
This weapon does feel more suited for duels and individual use rather than larger battles, but it’s got some cool maneuvers and options that make for quite a show compared to stuff you’d expect from the usual weapons of war.
While watching the video, I remembered that the main weapon of the character Makie Otonotachibana（乙橘 槇絵） from the Japanese manga ``Blade of the Immortal'' （無限の住人）was the Three Section Staff.
Thank you for introducing special weapons that are difficult to use unless you are an expert.
Yeah, I remember it was it three-section staff with dual blades on each end (short blade and hook).
Man, Toji made it looks so much better than it actually is.
Good to see a traditional Chinese weapon on your channel. They may not be practical but they sure do look cool.
Yes and who knows for that topic may want to do a video about those others in the picture of 1 that looks similar to a police baton club for JJ.
They're practical if you have the skill. They are a self defense weapon, not a battlefield weapon.
@@SirPlusOfCamelot You ain't wrong. It is easier to carry on your Person.
Three section staffs are simply not enough these days... due to bureaucracy, you'll need three department worth of staffs to do a simple administrative duty!
Those who are versed in the arts will know.
I've used nunchucks and 3 section for a long time. The 3 section has a more narrow use case than most conventional weapons, but can be whipped incredibly quickly and angled unpredictably mid swing due to the multiple joints of the weapon. The tip speed on these things is incredible. I have a hardwood staff that whistles around the apex of the swing. Think about that. A blunt weapon moving quickly enough to whistle. You don't need to aim for the head. Hit the lower leg. You have a huge reach advantage over other weapons, even staffs, which are big clubs, not whips. A hit on all but the meatiest of legs will immobilize. The drawback of the weapon is a hard dependance on the proper terain and positioning. I'd rather have a staff for versatility, but would be much more afraid to face someone with my skillin an open field with the 3 section than a staff.
@@skyguytomas9615 Are you sure you responded to the right comment my guy? This was a joke about beaurocracy.
In my experience flexible weapons need a _lot_ of training to be effective. They look good, but that's about it. Give me a spear or a real historical warhammer any day of the week.
I'm with you on this. I do like to present a case for all weapons in my vids tho. I'm sure there are lots of people out there who'd tool me up with a three section staff. Just not a weapon I'd ever want to use.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq In my youth our town had a prohibition on _all_ weapons...until the cocaine wars of 80s Chicagoland hit, then all bets were off.
Some of us carried a pair of tube socks, nested, with a bar of Dial soap in them. It was so we had clean socks after intramural sports, of course.
You can't thrust or effectively block with a flexible weapon, though, so they were more of a beatdown device than an actual weapon. It was later immortalized in _Full Metal Jacket._
Or a firearm, for that matter. The likes of Kyouko Sakura are cool and all, but even she isn't as refined and shockingly aweful as Mami Tomoe and Homura Akemi, if you catch my drift.
I think Chain morning Star with the right proportions arent so difficult to lern !
I think its good with shield or Buckler!
I think a Hussite war Flail with the right Proportions is maybe not that hard to lern!
Only one pun?! I want my money back!
Thanks for another fun and interesting video Johnny.
Pretty much spot on narration throughout this video. Thank you for including the movie titles. As a practitioner of the 18 weapons of Kung Fu; these films serve as an inspiration for me since most of these weapon's forms are NOT taught in schools. "Soft" weapons such as 9-section whip and meteor hammer can have the tip wrapped in sponge to prevent injury. I have hit myself a couple of times with the 3-sectional staff. My old master in Yangshuo, China told me how to modify this weapon to give it a smoother flow.
My guess with this thing is that the number one advantage of a weapon like this has is the novelty of it. Maybe it would lose to a normal staff 9/10 times if both fighters had experience with each other's skill set, but most guys fighting against a three section staff are probably doing so for the first time. So as long as it's an uncommon weapon it has a temporary advantage, but the second it catches on it it becomes less effective. This effect would mean there could always be guys using it effectively, but it would never become widely popular.
Love the clips from 'Fearless'! That film was the first time I had ever seen the three section staff, and the fight scenes are still so exciting to watch.
Every time one of your videos comes out I have a new movie to watch.
The first clip of this video...from Heroes Of The East. Been trying to find the title of this king fu flick forever, saw it as a kid. Thanks so much.
Excellent movie
This weapon looks awesome on the wall as part of a display. It's also interesting how heavy it actually is too. I never did get the hang of using mine.
I never had a back yard big enough to train with mine, plus I feared breaking it against the concrete. I agree with how heavy it is when in motion. Wishing that the weapon was more popular 💯
Great video. Thanks again.
Your videos never disappoint.
It’s said nunchaku originated from agricultural rice flails on Okinawa when regular weapons were outlawed there. The three section staff really looks like it had a similar origin.
Traditional history says it came from a staff/pole fighter, whose staff was broken during a military excursion; he didn't have time to make another, so he fastened the two poles together. He did this again, when the longer pole was broken.
My Preying Mantis Grandmaster said that the 3 section staff was only good for the movies. And added that if he had a staff, he would easily beat anyone with the 3 sectioned staff.
I never challenged him on that.
Thanks for putting the names of the kung fu movies on the screen, I'm going to look those up. :)
My same advice for the nunchucks: no crazy moves, like spinning and such, or you’ll hit yourself.
Your testicles will thank you...fervently! 🫣🫡🤣
A wonderful video! Your reseaech really shines theough and ive been looking for something like this for years! Do you take requests?
Sammo Hung was a huge favourite when we were kids. We knew he was a massively skilled dude despite his comedic roles. Kung fu tv shows in 80s Philippines made for great afternoon viewing with a soda and sandwiches that mom would make for us. Love this video
Red cloud?
Friend wanted to try using a flail in some HEMA. As we were training small group against small group, he swung it over his head. The flail head hit the person standing next to him (me) in the face and the person on his other side in the back of the head. All before the two groups even got into striking distance of one another. We haven't had much use of flails since. I think the only flail type weapon that'd work in a formation would be those two-handed ones (often used for threshing grain), where your motion is more like swinging an axe over your head. But even then, just about any polearm would be as effective and serve other purposes as well.
katana next?
Would prefer the simple civil practicality of the wooden bokken and shinai swords.
Hope so
I think it CAN BE effective, but overall the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. Still, it's awesome for showing off, and if you can swing it around without hurting yourself many people won't even try to fight you.
*Anything with a jointed point in it can hit something and come back towards you. Thats a major problem.*
Great video, do you still upload to your sword and shield channel?
I always had an infatuation with these since the early 90s and i forget what movie made them so awesome to me back then, dammit : p
Hello John, I know it is mustard after the meal, but in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" (1981) and in the 1979 film "1941" and both by Spielberg, such a weapon is in the hands of the Nazis. Toht used this when it suddenly turned out to be a coat hanger. A joke that was actually supposed to be used by Kriegmarine officer Christopher Lee in the Japanese U-Boat in 1941.
Hi Jonny , don't know if you have done a vid on skip bombing ships in the pacific during WW2 or not ,,, so excuse me if I haven't seen it.
I know of the use in the European Theater for dams but recently saw some info on it used against Japanese shipping. Not sure how effective it was. could you do one if you get the time?
Thanks for the vids.
Thanks J-dog
I found one of these at a garage dump years ago . I found out after a few days why . I returned it to the same dump I got it from with a giant bruise on my head
Hello John, I know it is mustard after the meal, but in Raiders of the Lost Ark and in the 1979 film 1941 and both by Spielberg, such a weapon is in the hands of the Nazis. Toht used this when it suddenly turned out to be a coat hanger. A joke that was actually supposed to be used by Kriegmarine officer Christopher Lee in the Japanese U-Boat in 1941.
Tanya’s weapon in Mortal Kombat 1
Can you do one on the Kukri?
Like most Wushu weapons it look amazing in demonstration or competition but in a fight situation you would take a staff or spear every time.
I picture a three part staff when carrying, but the steel cord connecting it can be tightened up by machines in the middle section, coming together into a spear. So it’s the best of both worlds.
Under appreciated. Granted, more as a personal weapon.
I think it is a nice weapon.
Due to it being called a Dragon-Coil-Staff, I once played a Way of the Ascended Dragon Monk in DnD, using a Three-Section-Staff as his main weapon,
also having the Polearm Master feat to highlight that he has trained with all arts of polearms to near perfection. Funnily enough, he got beaten up quite often because Monks are squishy as hell.
Three section staff - almost as deadly as Chiaki Kuriyama with her saw-ball on a chain.
Kusarigama ?
from Kill Bill movie
Sometimes, I wished Airbenders would have these three section staffs for both self-defense and to boost their bending skills.
In Fearless, Jet Li really makes it look very cool.
Awesome! I'm surprised you're covering this weapon! Yeah I agree, this is more a personal defense weapon focusing on concealment, much like it's smaller brother the nunchaku. When scrunched down, it looks like it is shorter by length than a chinese sword. Also it can be disassembled and be just 3 wooden rods if you're trying to get by some military checkpoint or something. Unlike a nunchaku, this looks like a self-defense weapon that allows one to defend yourself in a wide area against multiple opponents. Imagine being ambushed by brigands on the road in an open field or something. Also it's a blunt weapon, I dunno if china was like japan where civilians were prevented from owning martial weapons, which would give the three section staff it's own niche.
Maybe cover the guandao next?
Can you do a video on the longsword? Aside from representation in media, there are now tons of videos from HEMA practitioners.
Oh hey its King Cerberus from DMC 5
Plz do video of mig 21, f14, sr71, black hawks, b29,spitfire, hind helicopter and bf109
For those who has played "Sifu" you all will know about the third boss "Kuroki" aka "The Artist" who uses this weapon with bladed edges. Especially knowing the struggle of her weapon usage during the first round of the fight.
Can you please do a video about The Japanese war fan/ tessen
I remember once hearing how the nun-chucks were an agricultural threshing tool that might have been used for combat in a pinch and later on during the US occupation of Japan (1945-1952) farmers of the region would make money by selling them to GIs as an "ancient ninja weapon" and had wondered if the 3 section staff had a similar history.
However I'm not sure if it would be useful as a threshing tool like the more widely used two section staff was which has documented use especially in peasant uprisings or occupation resistance in the pre-modern era (when most people were farmers and hand tools for threshing were both commonplace and needed for producing crops) and usually when regular weapons are not available.
Now do a video about a three-section gun used by the Victorian underworld!
Good video here and who knows what next since there's many topics to choose from in this day and age.
I appreciate you always leaving some support my man 🙏👍
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Thanks and who knows maybe you can do those parts I told you about or look into this old movie that takes place way after the events of Dien Bien Phu named Battle of Algiers for a review turns out the French had more of a nightmare after the events of Indochina or maybe do an video on the A-1 H Cobra attack helicopter in movies, T-54/55 tank, DSHK Machine Gun, Browning and who knows what others can be good for a topic video since like I already said there's a lot even parts I hardly know about.
@@JohnnyJohnsonEsq Or knowing you did a video on the Vickers may want to do other Maxim Machine gun variants like the Russian PM 1910 with that snow cap or any early models which you may want to look up.
I can hear Shadiversity off in the distance, screaming about breaking a perfectly good stick.
The fact that a boss in SIFU uses a Three section staff with blades on the ends😂
i'd like to add that alot of the times the nunchucks and 3 section staff have been regarded as less than lethal options for self defense within the martial arts group i used to train with. theyre easier to carry than full length polearms and simultaneously less lethal than just a big stick. my master only ever taught it as a performance piece, and ive only ever met 2 people that learnt it properly. Personally im more a fan of rope darts, but no one teaches that, so i learned on my own. largely, the sentiment was that if you needed someone dead, you'll just use a big stick, but if you wanted to spend time mastering a weapon that looks cooler, and also trains your dexterity and reflexes, you'll use these soft weapons instead.
I tried learning it as a kid, I can confirm that it can raise a lot of bruises. At least on the practitioner.
Ninjacoes in American Ninja lingo!
I would say like a nunchucks it depends on who’s using it and how; for most of us a spear or regular staff would be best. But since nobody here is going up against anyone using it, it’s all whatever. It’s a simple fact that an amateur can’t beat a master with years of experience.
Just about as effective as the nunchaku. Just give me the big stick!
That family guy clip was too good
So that's how one partially calls Kyouko Sakura's signature segmented chain combat stave... strange to see the Little Busters! adaptation here and not Puella Magi Madoka Magica, to be honest.
Next similar topic should be kenjutsu's bokken (and kendo's shinai, as an aside) spotlights, righ'? Not lethal weapons, of course, but as a "palmtop tiger" once said, could definitely give you amnesia.
Cool
The con of being hard to master, unfortunately does not make this the coolest stick, but it has got to be up there IMO
Btw do you know anything about the TB-3 plane? My friend told me that it also served as an aircraft carrier during World War II, but I could not find much about this
For something ww2 related, I would suggest the Jagdpanzer IV. Alongside the Stug IV, it was a tank destroyer based off the Panzer IV’s chassis. And much like other German TD’s it’s rarely shown in film, with a few video games featuring it.
Ah, aren't those the same tanks that tried to get past the Leopon Team's Tiger P blockade from Girls und Panzer?
In World of Tanks that TD is awful so it has a bad rep from there not sure about WT.
@@MrRjh63 about average for what I experienced. Decent front armour and a low profile
In Devil May Cry 5 Dante has one has a weapon
It might not be practical in fight, but when you get the hang of it, it’s very fun to play around with while exercising while looking cool (only if you don’t hit yourself with it😅)
You have stick! Stick is very good!
TOJI WAS SHOWN 🔥🔥🔥
Yes one advantage of the flail is definitely the fact that you don't have to land a direct hit with the business end to potentially stop somebody or to hurt them significantly.
Flexible weapons are tricky to use in a fight period. The exception might be the European or Korean staff flail. The Hussites used them extensively to defend their wagon forts. Basically they are a long pole with a shorter striking section, often shod in iron, sometimes with spikes. And as the Hussites were a peasant army they can’t have been that hard to use.
Do a video on the Japanese Type 92 heavy machine gun or the Type 11 LMG
The three-section staff is the only weapon I have ever trained with where I felt it was just as likely I'd injure myself, as it was I'd injure an attacker. They are fun to mess around with, but I'd pick up almost anything else if I needed to protect myself.
Can you please do a video on the F-14 Tomcat next?
It's on my list for sure but probably will be a couple of months or so.
Not gonna lie, I wish that 3-section staff/coat hanger from Family Guy was real. Looks super cool and useful for travel when you don't want to carry a full size coat hanger in your limited luggage space.
Uncommon because one must be familiar with Nunchuck, staff, dual sticks and whip. Actually better than chucks, staffs and dual sticks best with meat mallet tips.
I tried learning one for months. The vid points out that it goes by many names. The ones I use for it are unprintable.
I wonder how many head scars were just remembered. Take care, Johnny. See ya on the next one.
What's the title of the video with sammo Hung?
The puns 😂
I would love to learn about The Glaive. I seen Chinese movies and such where it's usually used by generals on horses. And in Japanese dojos.
You can see halberds and glaives alot in Three Kingdoms Media. Guan Yu was famous for his
What about the two-section flail staff? even cooler imo.
The Hussite war Flail is Bad ass!
Shout out to the Kung Fu Panda animated series episode S01E14 "Ghost of Oogway", and the (hilarious) use of the TRI-BO-YAO!
(They put weights on the end!)
Been a long while since I've watched that show. May not be canon to the movie continuity, but still.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Honestly some of the funniest animation I have watched in recent memory.
Effective but you have to be very skilled. I have one it’s tough and ended up hitting myself in the groin awhile back it was painful not giving up though. Used it while working out two days ago.
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin is such a cool movie.
I know. Would call it a movie that needs more re-exposure even compared to the Bruce Lee films even.
I think its a great weapon I made one back in the 80s it was instantly obvious it had more range and power then nunchucks and more surface area for blocks.I used 26 inch sections so the only downside was carrying it due to its length.If I were to make one again to actually be used in combat I would use 3 polycarbonate night sticks and join them together.
How about a nice old 1 section staff with a pointy end.
I have 2 three-section-staff that I’ve built, I really like this weapon. It is very fun to learn practice with it (once you stop hitting yourself 😅💥)
It is a great continuation from staff and nunchucks
Tried using one during training against an opponent with a sword, given it wasn't a death battle, I didn't find it to be an absurd weapon, though the difficulty in controlling it limits vastly your options, the fact that in ordert to unlock new options you have to implement extremely complex tecniques makes using it effectively in a real fight far from doable
As with any martial arts, whether with empty hands or with weapons, it is the practitioner that makes the difference. I use a three-section staff, and while difficult to master, if used effectively it is difficult to counter as well. Taking a hit from from weapon to get a precise opening is ill-advised. The 3 section staff, can deliver a crippling blow, but still be in a position to defend against the next blow.
If only these were half as effective as they looked cool.
Definitely see why they were used in movies.
Fuck dude!! You pulled out the JJK Toji vs Dagon fight and my jaw hit the floor! 😮
Edit: I had to keep rewinding because every time I saw that clip my mind would go blank and the only thing I could think about was JJK for a minute.