Hollow Knight - Speedrunner vs. 4 Hunters

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    A speedrunner vs. four hunters: the speedrunner's goal is to defeat The Hollow Knight in 80 minutes or less. If the hunters stop him, they win. This was played using Hollow Knight's Online Multiplayer Mod with PvP enabled.
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    Speedrunner vs. Hunter Rules:
    - The speedrunner wins on the final hit to The Hollow Knight.
    - The hunters if the speedrunner hasn't won in 80 minutes.
    - Hunters start with 3 HP, Pure Nail, all movement abilities, Dream Gate, Dashmaster, Sprintmaster, Compass, no spells, and no nail arts.
    - Hunters start in Godhome on a completed 112% save file.
    - Hunters have 3 lifelines that they can use to ask the speedrunner which area they are in.
    - Benchwarp is allowed, but only to warp to the last bench you have sat on.
    #multiplayer #pvp #manhunt
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Komentáře • 3,1K

  • @fireb0rn
    @fireb0rn  Před 3 lety +3585

    Check out the perspectives of these awesome Hollow Knight CZcamsrs!
    Rusty czcams.com/video/FOHLP-wkHj0/video.html
    Relyea czcams.com/video/_urW59t1Dqw/video.html
    Perpetual Noob czcams.com/video/c8Pug70XJyg/video.html

    • @hornetisvoider
      @hornetisvoider Před 3 lety +11

      Yes

    • @jac1871
      @jac1871 Před 3 lety +37

      Wait how is this 17 hours ago? The video came out 2 minutes ago. I mean you might’ve private and un private but still.

    • @Robbe-Muylaert
      @Robbe-Muylaert Před 3 lety +6

      You is cool

    • @xXWolf24Xx
      @xXWolf24Xx Před 3 lety +20

      You forgot cranky

    • @hornetisvoider
      @hornetisvoider Před 3 lety +22

      @@xXWolf24Xx plot twist: he doesn't exist

  • @skyecloudd1278
    @skyecloudd1278 Před 3 lety +5942

    "The bastard has probably already completed silksong" lmao

    • @bucketface1583
      @bucketface1583 Před 3 lety +249

      man’s gonna speedrun silksong before it came out

    • @DokuDoki
      @DokuDoki Před 3 lety +154

      Theory, Fire is helping to playtest the game but he cannot tell us... conclusion, he did indeed complete Silksong

    • @skyecloudd1278
      @skyecloudd1278 Před 3 lety +91

      @@DokuDoki he probably already knows every skip and glitch before it's even released

    • @pouncelygrin6699
      @pouncelygrin6699 Před 3 lety +4

      lol xD

    • @vperalez06
      @vperalez06 Před 3 lety +38

      @@DokuDoki He’s gonna be the reason there are no skips or glitches if that’s the case.

  • @1th_to_comment.
    @1th_to_comment. Před 3 lety +4284

    "Bastard's probably playing silk song by now!"
    -Rusty. 2021

  • @batturing
    @batturing Před 3 lety +7576

    this man really went without the lantern. through DEEPNEST

    • @lofi219
      @lofi219 Před 2 lety +555

      He knows the place like the back of his hand at this point

    • @aetherlynx
      @aetherlynx Před 2 lety +322

      He's fireborn, what do you expect

    • @revivrevalchn3503
      @revivrevalchn3503 Před 2 lety +325

      dude probably go through Path of pain Blind folded.

    • @lofi219
      @lofi219 Před 2 lety +132

      @@revivrevalchn3503 I refuse to believe he hasn't

    • @Dan-do2pl
      @Dan-do2pl Před 2 lety +204

      @@revivrevalchn3503 bro the path of pain to him is *a path to the grocery store*

  • @DolanDarker
    @DolanDarker Před 3 lety +11787

    This is such a slick idea, it makes the wait for Silksong a little easier

  • @mastercrash0683
    @mastercrash0683 Před 3 lety +2576

    Imagine he's gone for like 30 minutes, the hunters are all anxious and stuff. They are guarding the dreamers, and waiting for him to show up, and when he finally does, he has abyss shriek, quick slash, strength, and a bunch of other stuff, and he just obliterates them.

    • @Rotem_S
      @Rotem_S Před 3 lety +265

      I really hope he does this in like april fool's while just hiding at crossroads using a cheat engine

    • @wilsonsiregar4737
      @wilsonsiregar4737 Před 3 lety +22

      strenght charm should do double damage in multiplayer

    • @themustardman219
      @themustardman219 Před 3 lety +16

      He beats NKG just to flex.

    • @riverajustinmarks.
      @riverajustinmarks. Před 3 lety +3

      the strength also has to be unbreakable.

  • @breadbeard9728
    @breadbeard9728 Před 3 lety +2274

    The fact that fire stays almost silent the whole time terrifies me

  • @Derbycat1
    @Derbycat1 Před 2 lety +852

    "His next stop is totally dream nail"
    Fire: "I'm already 4 parallel universes ahead of you."

  • @ramon6783
    @ramon6783 Před 2 lety +3291

    Hunters: "that's so dirty!"
    Also Hunters: boss camping
    But man, fire. You're an absolute god. Congrats on the successful monarch wings skip!

    • @TheBluePhoenix008
      @TheBluePhoenix008 Před rokem +40

      It's surprising that even with this, the latter manhunts are much more impressive.
      Also 1 k likes and no replies? Damn.

  • @zzSolsticezz
    @zzSolsticezz Před 3 lety +4692

    “What if Fire had dash and just didn’t use during fights so we didn’t know”
    “That would be AMAZING.”
    Fire: 😉

    • @gersomvanslooten9456
      @gersomvanslooten9456 Před 2 lety +154

      I've had Hollow Knight for a week and all the tricks Fire does to skip through the game just boggles my mind!

    • @Pato_Kog
      @Pato_Kog Před 2 lety +12

      666 like here

    • @lastdimensions638
      @lastdimensions638 Před 2 lety +5

      I'm 777 like nice

    • @Plantje024
      @Plantje024 Před 2 lety +7

      I was literally hearing this while reading this comment

    • @ChiefShmeef
      @ChiefShmeef Před 2 lety +4

      Whole video was just fire making big brain plays

  • @whitewarrior0296
    @whitewarrior0296 Před 3 lety +4705

    As much as Rusty [I think it was him, may be wrong] wanted to separate the calls, I feel you'd lose out on a lot of the charm this little series has. Having the hunters talk through what they're doing adds a lot of personality as opposed to silent terrors camping a boss.

    • @dragonheart4332
      @dragonheart4332 Před 3 lety +310

      Potentially they could stay in call together but fire has the discord audio not coming into his headset? That way the video still has audio but neither side has each other's

    • @CM-db5cg
      @CM-db5cg Před 3 lety +268

      I also don't think fire would be able to do it without the Intel. Cuz they did overinflate how well he was doing in their heads, constantly thinking he had stuff he didn't.

    • @Chrisbun1
      @Chrisbun1 Před 3 lety +196

      Having Fire hear their plans is incredibly fun. Since they have to either resort to mindgames or do something else. Fire working blindly wouldnt be as fun.

    • @rockdeworld
      @rockdeworld Před 3 lety +36

      Yeah especially since as soon as 1 spots him another heads there and as soon as 2 appear it looks like any boss becomes impossible

    • @Zetalight16
      @Zetalight16 Před 3 lety +79

      Hunters learning to communicate without giving away their plans/positions is a part of what makes the manhunt format work, IMO. The calls need to stay as-is, they just need to recognize that it's part of the learning curve

  • @FrostSylph
    @FrostSylph Před 2 lety +476

    "He's probably going for lantern"
    Fireborn running through a dark area blind: "lantern? I don't require such a crutch."

  • @evewhoo
    @evewhoo Před 3 lety +715

    14:07 Their shock at him having a nail art and being at watchers will never fail to amuse me. I like their new rules, but there’s something so funny about the speedrunner working in the shadows and all of a sudden popping with like two new abilities and a mask and shocking everyone.

  • @DokuDoki
    @DokuDoki Před 3 lety +5378

    You should equip Thorns of Agony, they'll never kno what hit them

    • @HalfaWaffle601
      @HalfaWaffle601 Před 3 lety +381

      The thorns
      Duh

    • @ljpal18
      @ljpal18 Před 3 lety +437

      New problem, new suggestion. Hopefully fire reads this.

    • @jerri1918
      @jerri1918 Před 3 lety +79

      @@HalfaWaffle601 shhhh they'll never know

    • @PaperLaur
      @PaperLaur Před 3 lety +439

      @@HalfaWaffle601 I mean, given the multiplayer mod's tendency to NOT show things...they might actually never know

    • @hippotripo6145
      @hippotripo6145 Před 3 lety +54

      Especially if he’s trying to avoid them in greenpath after Hornet

  • @gamingdragon2361
    @gamingdragon2361 Před 3 lety +1418

    I really like how scared they sounded when Fire was at watcher knights with a nail art,
    "He has a nail art?!" 14:00

    • @stacyowl1658
      @stacyowl1658 Před 3 lety +40

      the best moment of the whole thing tbh lol

    • @tobias5067
      @tobias5067 Před 3 lety +41

      After he died, "Don't thank me, thank Watcher Knights."

    • @Blade.5786
      @Blade.5786 Před 3 lety +18

      Basically the reaction of the villain when the main character pulls out his secret technique

  • @VoidIsLonely
    @VoidIsLonely Před 2 lety +667

    I've never seen someone have so much control over their character before holy shit this was so fun to watch

  • @oliverwithers9736
    @oliverwithers9736 Před 3 lety +438

    You should definitely make it so the hunters can’t go into a boss fight multiple times as it creates way to many choke points later on and makes it nearly impossible

    • @jondoh9414
      @jondoh9414 Před 8 měsíci +9

      That was the fun part. So hilarious to watch when he had to struggle to circumvent their interference. Though maybe camping Uumuu is too unfair.

    • @memerstudio5772
      @memerstudio5772 Před 6 měsíci +3

      tbh he should have ability to just 1 tap them or hit them once and stun them for 10 sec but he cant damage them in that time

  • @The_Wallflower
    @The_Wallflower Před 3 lety +3265

    I like how this entire video was just
    “Hey guys, let’s guard [insert spell here]”
    *two minutes later*
    “Hey guys, he’s got [insert ability here]”

  • @misdemeanor7083
    @misdemeanor7083 Před 3 lety +671

    "what if fire got dash but he was conscious of using dash while fighting you, so he just didn't use it?"
    "that would be next level"
    lmao

  • @imblackmagic1209
    @imblackmagic1209 Před 3 lety +2114

    it's frustrating to watch the hunters gang up on him, basically camp at one mandatory boss, and the run is dead...

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +132

      But that problem is very hard to fix, if you barred boss fights somehow to make it easier on fireborn, it becomes way to hard for the hunters, and that'd be for any speedrunner, not just fireborn

    • @heckingbamboozled8097
      @heckingbamboozled8097 Před 2 lety +338

      @@lair9792 Why are you just spamming this exact same thing? Limiting the number of people able to go into the boss arenas would make it so progress isn't literally impossible when they all bench up in the same spot. The Uumuu fight was absolutely unfair, and the only real solution would be to limit the amount of hunter that can be in the boss rooms. You constantly repeating "it'd be too easy then" doesn't align with how ridiculous their grouping up on him was. Would've been even worse had he reached the Hollow Knight

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +47

      @@heckingbamboozled8097 I used the same argument in different comment threads. It wasn't supposed to be spam, my apologies. It seems you have misunderstood what I meant. I never claimed the Uumuu fight wasn't unfair. It was very unfair. However, for a run where the runner can easily avoid everyone for 95% of it, what are the hunters to do? Blindly wander and hope to stumble upon someone? Especially when fireborn can listen in and easily take a route to avoid everyone. My argument isn't "don't limit boss fights," it's "if you are to limit boss fights, the only reliable way to find the runner, there has to be a counter measure for the hunters in place of the restrictions, because without a counter measure, it'd be incredibly easy for the runner to win.

    • @sunsetskye483
      @sunsetskye483 Před 2 lety +164

      @@lair9792 But he already has a timer, so it’s not like he can just avoid them forever. And the main goal here is content, and it’s not very entertaining to just watch fire get killed over and over by getting camped.

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +19

      @@sunsetskye483 While I understand and agree with what you say, it also isn't entertaining to see a one sided decimation on the runners side. The hunters are put at a disadvantage by having fewer masks so the only realistic way to fight him is with more than one hunter. This puts them at a disadvantage because it groups them together and gives him more areas to run off too. He can hear all the communication as well. While camping mandatory boss might be scummy and not something I see a whole lot of fun in watching, it was the right decision. There's few areas they know he has to go to, and he can do them in whatever order he likes. It's not that I disagree with what you said, but I'm not so blind to see the advantages fireborn had for the most part.

  • @theoutspokentheorist9578
    @theoutspokentheorist9578 Před 3 lety +452

    Hunters: "This is a pretty good wall we set up here"
    Also Hunters: *camping on one of the bosses who blocks off whole portions of the arena*

  • @Memjahmin
    @Memjahmin Před 3 lety +798

    Templar: Soul Sanctum
    Relyea: Already there. *rising menacingly from the elevator*

  • @CrankyTemplar
    @CrankyTemplar Před 3 lety +3306

    As always, this is much fun learning new stuff with routes.

    • @theknight4254
      @theknight4254 Před 3 lety +6

      Yes I'm going to learn how to speedrun good and then come for fire's spot

    • @darklusare7582
      @darklusare7582 Před 3 lety +12

      everytime I see you on the screen approaching fireborn, I get menacing vibes
      and totally expect fire to easily die, but he got better

    • @livingzlife4983
      @livingzlife4983 Před 3 lety +7

      I watched your Stream awhile ago

    • @XcouchpotatoX1
      @XcouchpotatoX1 Před 3 lety +1

      17:12 when he opened that shortcut I was flabbergasted

    • @RaymondR3dd
      @RaymondR3dd Před 3 lety

      You were the only one who did anything to kill him. Others hit him, but otherwise just said “nice” when you landed the final blows.

  • @MrMoltakfire
    @MrMoltakfire Před 3 lety +2199

    Ah man, it was fun to watch until I realised they can just enter the boss room when they want. 4+boss v 1 isn’t that fun to watch. :L

    • @themantsang
      @themantsang Před 3 lety +63

      That's the point of a challenge >.>

    • @Eudaletism
      @Eudaletism Před 3 lety +23

      Those are my favorite parts.

    • @jpowel
      @jpowel Před 3 lety +567

      @@themantsang A challenge is no longer a challenge if it is quite literally impossible to complete. This wasn't fair at all as soon as they just started respawning outside the boss rooms and constantly attacking him not allowing him to progress. There should have been rules set up to disallow that and actually make it interesting.

    • @laharlkent
      @laharlkent Před 3 lety +394

      @@jpowel Or they take boss damage also, if they had to avoid everything he did it would make it fairer

    • @infiniteaj8688
      @infiniteaj8688 Před 2 lety +40

      @@laharlkent Wouldn't really work, since the bosses all target Fire only. The Hunters would just have to make sure they don't run into the bosses' attacks by accident, otherwise it'd be more or less the same.

  • @gavin5410
    @gavin5410 Před 3 lety +198

    It would be funny to go for an absolute radiance ending while everyone else is trying to find you on the map

  • @necr0mancrr
    @necr0mancrr Před 3 lety +412

    The 80 minute time limit helps a lot, I think the main problem of last time was you were essentially guaranteed to win. A limit adds suspense and stakes to it that the previous one was lacking.

    • @blueberrryy
      @blueberrryy Před 3 lety +29

      Personally I think it should be an amount of times they have to kill him, not a time limit.

    • @Abyss10n
      @Abyss10n Před 3 lety +62

      I think the 80 minutes is short though. 120 minutes probably more reasonable.

    • @jellewoort4315
      @jellewoort4315 Před 3 lety +11

      @@Abyss10n well he did beat the game in circa 30 minures

    • @Buglin_Burger7878
      @Buglin_Burger7878 Před 3 lety +97

      The problem is when all the hunters sit in the room... what can the runner do? It just ends up becoming essentially impossible... and the hunters don't HUNT. They just sit at the boss... and win. By creating a time limit they ensure that he can't get mask shards and soul containers, limiting his options massively... and in turn making a near impossible challenge.
      They can just forgo hunting them the entire time, just wait on the boss they did here... and win.

    • @cameronschiralli3569
      @cameronschiralli3569 Před 3 lety +44

      ​@@Buglin_Burger7878 I think that problem spawned less from the time limit and more from the fact that he was straight up out of time. Given a little longer, he could've faked out Uumuu and made his way to the Beast's den (and then possibly bench warped), but because he literally had no time left, his only choice was to throw himself at Uumuu
      Also, keep in mind that he spent a very long time jumping between Soul Sanctum and Watcher Knights, which if he'd been able to deal with sooner, could've also (as they said) done things like get another mask or shade cloak, which would force them to change their positions

  • @Rusty._
    @Rusty._ Před 3 lety +13651

    These runs will never not be fun

  • @gavinmaretzki6675
    @gavinmaretzki6675 Před 3 lety +170

    "He's probably hunting for mask shards, he's gonna be a bear next time we see him"
    *Guess who still has only five masks?*

    • @Aromantic-freak
      @Aromantic-freak Před rokem

      And has 2/3 dreamers, decending dark and shade soul

  • @littlegirlgogo
    @littlegirlgogo Před 3 lety +176

    while i appreciate the new "announce when you get shit" rules from a balance perspective in the new videos, nothing can compare to this crazy where he disappears for a while and comes back with many more skills and all of the hunters are confused and surprised, or the play where he purposefully didnt dash to keep them guessing at where he went

  • @fr6938
    @fr6938 Před 3 lety +350

    Rusty: “his next stop is dream nail”
    Fireb0rn: *i am 4 parallel universe ahead of you*

  • @guilhermegigeck5946
    @guilhermegigeck5946 Před 3 lety +2327

    The ending was very underwhelming. Since fire was basically cornered and the hunters have no cooldown on death they can simply throw themselves at Fire, no need to fight well. It turned the thrilling time limit into a boring 10 minute stalemate with a default winner.

    • @parkercote6644
      @parkercote6644 Před 3 lety +154

      Agreed

    • @ramirochalar1243
      @ramirochalar1243 Před 3 lety +713

      A cooldown on death for the hunters would make it so much better

    • @user-yr5pc4qq4h
      @user-yr5pc4qq4h Před 3 lety +35

      My thoughts exactly

    • @MxHavmir
      @MxHavmir Před 3 lety +275

      I think if the hunters could only respawn from like dirtmouth could work.

    • @pinkworm5348
      @pinkworm5348 Před 3 lety +117

      Cd on hunter would be a great thing, he should have defenitly bait them to an other dreamer to not confirm this was the last one

  • @Ownniceguy
    @Ownniceguy Před 2 lety +94

    The amount of control this guy has over his character in hollow knight is amazing. I wish I was this good at hollow knight

  • @KorrieRose
    @KorrieRose Před 2 lety +14

    Hunters: Fire's probably here
    Fire: *three galaxy brains ahead of them*

  • @ernietime2229
    @ernietime2229 Před 3 lety +732

    "He's probably already done"
    "He's probably playing Silksong by now"
    I mean they're not wrong, you probably could've been for all they knew at the time

  • @phnargg
    @phnargg Před 3 lety +956

    This was super entertaining!
    I wonder if the runner would have more of a chance here if the hunters were blocked by boss doors as well. They could still enter the boss room ahead of time and wait, but they’d have to be strategic, because once the runner enters the boss room, the hunters are locked either in or out. They’d have to try and stay alive while in the boss room, knowing if they die, they won’t be able to get back into the boss room until the runner either dies or wins. This could prevent unwinnable situations where the hunters can infinitely respawn and make a boss fight impossible. It’d force them to be strategic/defensive in the boss room over just rushing the runner for body damage.

    • @veggiedragon1000
      @veggiedragon1000 Před 3 lety +83

      Diane H. Yeah I think this would be a little more fair

    • @joeroberts472
      @joeroberts472 Před 3 lety +44

      This!! I really think this would deal with the bottleneck problem but still let them strategize

    • @gophermanX
      @gophermanX Před 3 lety +25

      This would be a huge improvement and I think is necessary if they want to separate the runner/hunter comms next time.

    • @sambews5679
      @sambews5679 Před 3 lety +5

      Dream Gate

    • @gophermanX
      @gophermanX Před 3 lety +11

      @@sambews5679 what about it? Just need all the hunters to agree to the rule, not like they don't all know each other

  • @anthonyfaiell3263
    @anthonyfaiell3263 Před 3 lety +229

    this was pretty awesome. I like the separate discords idea for sure. I would add that a respawn timer for the hunters I think is important. Once the speedrunner gets to those later bosses the hunters were just spam spawning. There should be a reward in the form of reprieve for the speedrunner if he is able to take out any hunters.

  • @azureotter2559
    @azureotter2559 Před rokem +22

    The amount of patience you have shocks me. I was getting mad just watching the uumuu fight and you had to live trough that. Props gg

  • @ZettatheCrimson
    @ZettatheCrimson Před 3 lety +2463

    This felt like watching those really bad invaders in Dark Souls that stand by the biggest enemy in the area and take credit for it killing the person they invaded lol.

    • @ciaranhayes3212
      @ciaranhayes3212 Před 3 lety +79

      I was playing as a blue sentinel and had an invader who did that today stood beside the pus of man in high wall of lothric with a bunch of poison weapons. Fuck that guy

    • @aboi6638
      @aboi6638 Před 3 lety +24

      I mean, as long as you dont suck at the game like a casual it shouldn't be difficult to deal with

    • @slambotv1334
      @slambotv1334 Před 3 lety +52

      @@ciaranhayes3212 the pus of man is the hardest enemy in High Wall, but I remember on my first playthrough I was so scared of the blue fatty there but I found out later he’s really easy

    • @aidenallen5922
      @aidenallen5922 Před 2 lety +3

      Me with swinging axes in sens

    • @Fallenstartheone
      @Fallenstartheone Před 2 lety +13

      i wish darksouls 3 wasnt infested with cheaters , i would play it to this day , my best moment of all time was killing 3 people in a single blow as they chased me and i charged up my big fire log wearing full onion armor.

  • @RelyeaGaming
    @RelyeaGaming Před 3 lety +2441

    This was so much fun. Looking forward to new multiplayer games

    • @frapaiva
      @frapaiva Před 3 lety +15

      It was fun to watch it too

    • @fourcornet1308
      @fourcornet1308 Před 3 lety +8

      i have been a fan of your work for ages relyea

    • @frapaiva
      @frapaiva Před 3 lety +2

      @@fourcornet1308 same

    • @milokulp2838
      @milokulp2838 Před 3 lety +5

      This'll be fun in silksong

    • @ne2256
      @ne2256 Před 3 lety +5

      Who else thinks relyea is underrated... I have got so many abilities like monarch wings, christal heart, mantis claw, etc bcz of him. Next can you please rank all the hollow knight bosses like rusty😁

  • @Underpantswher
    @Underpantswher Před 3 lety +33

    Fire whenever the hunters say anything: "i am 4 parallel universes ahead of you."

  • @lonelywaffles781
    @lonelywaffles781 Před 3 lety +19

    36:22 Bro that looked like a powerful anime entrance, gave me goose bumps lol. That looked sooooo cool to me bro.

  • @yawshi822
    @yawshi822 Před 3 lety +271

    Its funny how the hunters predict fires moves AFTER he makes them

  • @MaxHaydenChiz
    @MaxHaydenChiz Před 3 lety +262

    The greatest achievement here is that fireb0rn is inventing new types of content and solving the drought while we wait for Silksong. Good job.

    • @mptyalln
      @mptyalln Před 11 měsíci +2

      for 2 years now

  • @batturing
    @batturing Před 3 lety +28

    i love how the hunters keep calling your next move right after you finished doing whatever they thought you were heading for

  • @pineskulltree
    @pineskulltree Před rokem +16

    29:12 most heart wrenching moment of the video

  • @xann2681
    @xann2681 Před 3 lety +3834

    I think there should be a penalty for when a hunter dies, since if they catch you in a choke point, they can just respawn pile on you without effort

    • @gothkurata
      @gothkurata Před 2 lety +203

      yeah it makes it really unfair

    • @kapitankapital6580
      @kapitankapital6580 Před 2 lety +274

      Yeah, even if there was just a respawn timer or something it would help to ease the dogpiling and mean if you get stuck in a bottleneck there's still some chance.

    • @dragonitegamer7497
      @dragonitegamer7497 Před 2 lety +12

      @Georgian Canis Not entirely sure but there could be some restrictions with how the mod works :p

    • @rafaelmoraes1288
      @rafaelmoraes1288 Před rokem +21

      guys, the ideia is to make this really hard, LIKE REALLY HARD. Any penalty that benefits fireb0rn will make this challenge easier.

    • @Sp44ky
      @Sp44ky Před rokem +120

      @@rafaelmoraes1288 because fighting 4 players while fighting umuu with a weak nail and 2/3 spells is fair.

  • @vsptylore3639
    @vsptylore3639 Před 3 lety +497

    Absolute MVP moment when fire sneaks past rusty right as rusty talks about how fire might sneak past him to get dash

  • @cawareyoudoin7379
    @cawareyoudoin7379 Před rokem +13

    Yeah, the hunters being able to enter the boss arenas was definitely OP.

  • @deluxeincorporated
    @deluxeincorporated Před rokem +22

    The fact that even with 4 hunters you still got so far is a testament to your skill

  • @bloodybehelit5356
    @bloodybehelit5356 Před 3 lety +263

    Monarch wings skip was insane

  • @ShadowHunter-nh3rl
    @ShadowHunter-nh3rl Před 3 lety +1112

    Personally I feel it's great that you're in the same call, and I'd almost like more interaction. Currently the hunters already have a huge advantage, and giving them a bigger advantage by allowing them a separate call not only turns things further to their favor, but it also makes watching the video less entertaining. But hey that's how I feel about it.

    • @blitz7488
      @blitz7488 Před 3 lety +32

      Agreed no need to nerf fire, in fact they should have nerfs

    • @Numberplay
      @Numberplay Před 3 lety +57

      they can dreamgate to bosses in a flash, they have more access than you have at the start and they can guess where you need to go so i feel the current ruleset gives them enough

    • @wocxdid8068
      @wocxdid8068 Před 3 lety +1

      But that's forgetting how long he was able to evade them though. And the time he has when he's free and alone are a bit boring too.

    • @anthonyfaiell3263
      @anthonyfaiell3263 Před 3 lety +5

      curious how it would make the video less entertaining. The speedrunner never spoke anyways, only using text at the bottom of the screen to communicate with the viewers. The 4 hunters on a separate call would be speaking to each other and that would be the audio that plays in video... since ya know... we don't really need to hear the speedrunner talking to themself.
      .
      yes, having them in separate calls would give a bit of an edge to the hunters (this videos whole purpose is to set a challenge for the speedrunner). But I believe that edge balances out by either adding a respawn timer to the hunters, not allowing hunters into boss arenas, or somehow allowing bosses to target hunters as well.

  • @egcart4957
    @egcart4957 Před 3 lety +35

    “B*stards probably playing silksong by now”
    Most underrated joke of the century

  • @truedraigongaming5732
    @truedraigongaming5732 Před 3 lety +31

    This was uber fun to watch and I can't wait to explore more of your channel. That said, I think they should only get one life per boss attempt. Like, you start a boss fight and they can only enter that boss fight once per attempt. So you kill 2 and they can't rejoin the fight unless you have to attempt the boss again. I'm just trying to add clarity.

  • @Dragonflier001
    @Dragonflier001 Před 3 lety +7404

    I disagree with the separate discord thing. This came super close. If he couldn't hear their strats and try and plan around them, it would way too skewed in their favor.

    • @DannehBoyNz
      @DannehBoyNz Před 3 lety +1064

      Yeah, agreed.
      It's also not like they couldn't use it to their advantage either, by throwing out false info every now and again to try bait him.

    • @ryutipscows9712
      @ryutipscows9712 Před 3 lety +442

      And the fact that the 3 dreamers are a necessity they can just camp it, umu wasn kinda impossible

    • @QiPunPun
      @QiPunPun Před 3 lety +28

      FACTS

    • @ohno5559
      @ohno5559 Před 3 lety +21

      Having a separate discord is good so they don't have to plan around not saying things they don't want him to know, there are other ways to tune the balance

    • @Jhelil
      @Jhelil Před 3 lety +133

      @@ohno5559 nah it takes too much of the fun out of it

  • @jlfree12
    @jlfree12 Před 3 lety +1249

    Separate discord calls go against what make manhunts so good, don't do that.

  • @skyhijinx
    @skyhijinx Před 7 měsíci +6

    Hunters: "He's probably farming Geo for Lantern."
    God Gamer: "What's a Lantern?"

  • @JustMe-mr1pr
    @JustMe-mr1pr Před 3 lety +6

    29:11 I felt bad for the little guy, he fully expected he'd be freed

  • @squishish
    @squishish Před 3 lety +3171

    I feel like hunters should definitely be barred from boss fights when the doors are closed. It's just kind of annoying to watch oops- They can go in before it starts but once the gate is down they have to wait. OR! They take damage from bosses too, that could be more fun.

    • @trickytreyperfected1482
      @trickytreyperfected1482 Před 3 lety +238

      The reason the hunter's can't be damaged by the bosses is because they're playing on a completed save file whereas Fire is not. I also kind of disagree about them not being allowed in the room after the doors are closed but only because of just how good Fire is and how it would mean that he wouldn't even have trouble winning at that point.

    • @squishish
      @squishish Před 3 lety +344

      @@trickytreyperfected1482 Tbh it's just annoying to watch the camping. Smth to prevent that specifically is what i'd like, but given the perimeters you mentioned that doesn't sound possible. Maybe a limit of how many hunters can be in the boss room at once, depending on the boss and the boss's difficulty..? So like for gruz mother, all 3 hunters can go in. But for something like the watcher knights, only one can go in at a time, but the other two can wait outside the door to go in, once the first hunter dies. Or, maybe a cooldown once they die inside of a boss room until they can enter again..?

    • @trickytreyperfected1482
      @trickytreyperfected1482 Před 3 lety +113

      @@squishish ooh, yeah I like that last idea. I think one rule that would be cool is if the hunters aren't allowed to bench meaning they have to travel to get back to the fight. If there was a way to disable contact damage for PvP specifically, that would also be good but I don't think that's possible. I do like the idea of limiting the number of hunters for certain fights but I can see where that might get too limiting.

    • @squishish
      @squishish Před 3 lety +54

      @@trickytreyperfected1482 One of the last games, they did remove certain benches for the hunters! so i think that was a good call. :> It certainly seemed to help, but even then sometimes it was a bit much(they had dreamnail and would put it down nearby). It's certainly something to think about, and i think fire is trying to mend that because of the bench idea happening. :> I'm sure a good solution will happen eventually! So that's good. I need to catch up and see if anymore changes got made ^^

    • @PilloTheStar
      @PilloTheStar Před 3 lety +21

      It'd be better if the hunters weren't allowed to use benches.

  • @connorhoffman335
    @connorhoffman335 Před 3 lety +925

    "He absolutely has to do the dreamers"
    *1 pantheon of hallownest later*
    "Oh."

    • @Verisity
      @Verisity Před 2 lety +27

      @Family Shands the godhome any% nmg wr is 2hr 44m and 45s so it won’t work

    • @ShadraRune
      @ShadraRune Před 2 lety +3

      @@Verisity but in some of the other runs they didn’t have a time limit, maybe have a run dedicated to godholm, and he does normal ending instead.

    • @ILiekFishes
      @ILiekFishes Před 2 lety +3

      @Family Shands flower isn't needed for godhome ending, it just alters the result.

  • @spy_magicthing8347
    @spy_magicthing8347 Před 2 lety +12

    Man, he really went through deepnest without a lantern, Wayward Compass or a map

  • @clintelkins9630
    @clintelkins9630 Před 2 lety +14

    Watching this guy take on watcher knights so artfully was just stunning, even if he died

  • @parkobo4264
    @parkobo4264 Před 3 lety +3455

    It’s not fair the hunters could just keep respawning outside the boss rooms, it should be one and done

    • @mossytime349
      @mossytime349 Před 3 lety +595

      I mean yeah the uumuu thing was ridiculous

    • @batturing
      @batturing Před 3 lety +441

      @@mossytime349 even the soul master fight felt unfair. and the second attempt at watcher knights was ridiculous. PLUS camping the bench

    • @witherwolf3316
      @witherwolf3316 Před 2 lety +122

      @@aidenwhiting5131 Maybe there's a highlight on which sector he's in but they have to respawn at Dirtmouth

    • @nehemiastoro3406
      @nehemiastoro3406 Před 2 lety +597

      I feel like the only way to balance this is to allow the Hunter to be hit by the bosses, that way everyone is multitasking, not just fireb0rn

    • @nickcrowell6741
      @nickcrowell6741 Před 2 lety +28

      @@witherwolf3316 yes agreed

  • @calebmurray4438
    @calebmurray4438 Před 3 lety +205

    Just so you know you blew my mind when you opened the shortcut between Cornifer/the bench and the soul sanctum

  • @roniqroniq2235
    @roniqroniq2235 Před rokem +18

    you should do this again but one of the hunters is secretly helping you and the others are trying to find out who it is

  • @raisgamesnz325
    @raisgamesnz325 Před 11 měsíci +5

    That was so intense! The areas where he went without the lantern were insane. I love how many times they were like, he's collecting mask shards!

  • @lagtduckgirl7993
    @lagtduckgirl7993 Před 3 lety +148

    I like to think that Quirrel was like
    "What is happening??" Watching 5 vessels fight

  • @Eudaletism
    @Eudaletism Před 3 lety +8

    This is like watching an RTS with commentary and a speedrun at the same time. Awesome!

  • @moramoment3536
    @moramoment3536 Před 2 lety +1

    it’s super interesting to watch these types of videos as someone who’s unlocked *most* of the areas in the game but hasn’t gotten very far with items and lore, i just kind of run around, so when there’s items involved i usually don’t know what they are LOL

  • @MylaPandora986
    @MylaPandora986 Před 3 lety +766

    It's so hard to watch for beginners like me who spent 10 hours on the game just for a dash.

    • @shuckle9529
      @shuckle9529 Před 3 lety +81

      its with every game, not only hollow knight, just watch speedrun of any video game you like and you will feel sad

    • @jasmijn-1419
      @jasmijn-1419 Před 3 lety +26

      You should take your time on your first file though

    • @loser_lenny4506
      @loser_lenny4506 Před 3 lety +14

      @@jasmijn-1419 please i have like 36 hours on my game and 4 of them have been spent on those knights lmao

    • @charliefranklin8523
      @charliefranklin8523 Před 3 lety +5

      @@shuckle9529 tbh the minecraft speedrun is awesome to watch without feeling sad, except for the one-cycle. And magma ravine portals.

    • @ninatheinkling5748
      @ninatheinkling5748 Před 3 lety +1

      Heh it took me 80 hours to get the true ending

  • @josiahrosado3106
    @josiahrosado3106 Před 2 lety +1

    This is my first video I'm seeing from you and I'm subscribing immediately, absolute god tier work

  • @Evan.Anderson.Sk8
    @Evan.Anderson.Sk8 Před 9 měsíci

    yo this was so sick fireborn great video I love what you're doing please make many more of these :)

  • @PerpetualNoob
    @PerpetualNoob Před 3 lety +488

    Another fun time. Truly. 😃
    I can't wait for Episode 3. I've taken so many notes, you'll never get past Hornet 1! Muahaha! 😂

    • @pclouds
      @pclouds Před 3 lety +6

      Plot twist: noob kills Hornet 1 before fire gets there :D

    • @quincius8638
      @quincius8638 Před 3 lety +4

      @@pclouds they are on different save files so it wouldn’t work

  • @TheDarkfire216
    @TheDarkfire216 Před 3 lety +693

    “We need to have separate discord calls next time.”
    Proceeds to curb stomp him at the end...
    Nah dawg I think him having the call makes it fair.

    • @gandalphf2026
      @gandalphf2026 Před 3 lety +22

      absolutely if they have all the communication and they dont take dmg from bosses thatd be too op

    • @nihili4196
      @nihili4196 Před 3 lety +20

      I would argue that they need a bit of a nerf. Last boss part was ridiculous.

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +10

      @@nihili4196 if you nerfed them at bosses, you'd have to buff them everywhere else. It's basically impossible to find someone that knows where everyone is. He hears all the communication. If you nerfed them at bosses, I could probably beat them. This type of thing is a very hard thing to balance.

    • @IAMIKO_
      @IAMIKO_ Před 2 lety

      @@lair9792 no you wouldn’t

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +5

      @@IAMIKO_ right, and you know that. You know how good I am at Hollow Knight? I must ask where you got this information. There's a little something I like to live by. The greatest video game players don't stream, the don't publish themselves online, and we'll never know who they are. I'm by no means claiming I'm a God at video games, but I don't think you see the bigger picture. I'm not looking at the views from a fireborn fan boy perspective, I'm looking at it from a realistic perspective. There are many things that make it way too easy for the runner, and there are also parts that make it way too easy on the hunters. This obviously wasn't something intended by the developers, so it also isn't something that is properly balanced either. If you'd like, I could go into lots of detail on how the manhunt wasn't properly balanced. That's of no fault to the people in the video of course, it's just a matter of fact. Those things take time to work the kinks out of. My personal complaint is when you assume you know my level of skill and that's just not possible. I could be the worst player on the earth, or I could be better than fireborn, but that's not the point. My point is you wouldn't know. With my prior comment, I used expressive language to make a point, I didn't mean to cause any misunderstandings. I do apologize, but I also dislike it when people make baseless claims based off of zero evidence.

  • @Nerdynessocity
    @Nerdynessocity Před 2 lety +1

    This had me stupidly giddy with excitement! I hope you do more things like this!

  • @AtleyS
    @AtleyS Před 2 lety

    I assume speedrun races from over a year ago are the reason this is in my recommended algorithm but I'm not complaining. Not sure how long this has been a thing but it's incredibly entertaining and looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for the video fireb0rn!

  • @zipzop8325
    @zipzop8325 Před 3 lety +733

    1. They should not be able to enter boss rooms after death inside
    2.respawn at the second closest bench
    3.hunters lose a random item when they die x amount of times

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +21

      Ah yes, with those changes, it becomes practically, let's watch the speedrunner absolutely destroy everyone. Hell, with those restrictions, I could beat the hunters. Do you understand how skewed that is in favor of the speedrunner?

    • @gigachad7729
      @gigachad7729 Před 2 lety +15

      @@lair9792 I would lose 3 and 2 and make 1 after 3 to 5 deaths

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gigachad7729 that could work

    • @gigachad7729
      @gigachad7729 Před 2 lety +18

      @@lair9792 it would give the hunters a chance while not completely dooming the speed runner during important bosses

    • @deathhimself1427
      @deathhimself1427 Před 2 lety +15

      I like the first rule but not the other two

  • @AzuRemilia
    @AzuRemilia Před 3 lety +116

    Hollow Knight - Speedrunner with a Gun vs. 4 Hunters

  • @thecursedgamer2707
    @thecursedgamer2707 Před 23 dny

    seeing your friends be super nice to you warms my heart

  • @jjmastera6111
    @jjmastera6111 Před 2 lety +4

    I recently bought Hollow Knight and have only put about 5-10 hours into the game so far and seeing runs like this is just baffling the amount of skill and precision it takes to do some of these skips is just mind boggling great run

  • @colingillespie7635
    @colingillespie7635 Před 3 lety +216

    The way he handled some of these situations was so impressive. I was so surprised when he almost beat the watcher knights.

  • @kiencancap
    @kiencancap Před 3 lety +80

    I want to see mossbag next time. He's not gonna hunt anyone, nor will he help anyone. He'll just sit in the call and read aloud all the archive's tablets.

  • @mrpsychoshawn1925
    @mrpsychoshawn1925 Před 2 lety

    These guys make me incredibly happy and I don’t know I haven’t watched them in a while

  • @videogameboymichael
    @videogameboymichael Před 4 měsíci +1

    1:37 Hearing the joke about Fire "already playing Silksong" and then seeing this video is 3 years old is PAINFUL.

  • @anddatkat796
    @anddatkat796 Před 3 lety +140

    I like that you put text to explain what you're doing and why you're doing it at certain points, it really helps to understand what's going on :)

  • @shrugs3233
    @shrugs3233 Před 3 lety +446

    ok, i have an idea: so what if when the timer ran out of time you entered overtime, where the runner is now limited to this only life. This way, they could go on but the stakes would be very high. Just think it would pretty cool!

    • @littleduck3686
      @littleduck3686 Před 3 lety +21

      There is so much potential to improve this

    • @Dr.Death8520
      @Dr.Death8520 Před 3 lety +16

      I feel like it wouldn't change much since the in this run he lost by getting stuck at a bottleneck

    • @lilithriou4536
      @lilithriou4536 Před 3 lety +2

      I 3rd this.

    • @sanstheskeleton679
      @sanstheskeleton679 Před 3 lety +2

      So the hunters go on a wild goose chase against him just to finish the video, or the hunters just sit at the same spot which makes the video boring at the end

    • @G1MM1CK_W_and_M
      @G1MM1CK_W_and_M Před 3 lety

      I 4th this

  • @marinadavies1917
    @marinadavies1917 Před 3 lety +7

    I think you need to either extend the time limit or make it so the hunters can’t like enter boss fights once they’ve started (camping inside boss fights is fine but once they’ve started they can’t enter) or limit them in some other way

  • @dyllanrodriguez2828
    @dyllanrodriguez2828 Před 2 lety +5

    I can’t wait till silksong comes out, the speed runs and crazy challenges like this are going to be nutty.

  • @vincenturquhart1370
    @vincenturquhart1370 Před 3 lety +259

    I love how the entire time you are just way ahead of were they think you are

  • @Daft69Punk
    @Daft69Punk Před 3 lety +229

    29:11 let’s take a moment and send our regards to that poor grub

  • @nomri_00
    @nomri_00 Před 2 lety +29

    This is more entertaining than Minecraft Manhunt

  • @missylib8682
    @missylib8682 Před rokem

    It’s crazy watching speedruns of this game. This is so impressive!

  • @crixel7942
    @crixel7942 Před 3 lety +476

    blocking the hunters from entering mid bossfight is a must.

    • @lair9792
      @lair9792 Před 2 lety +15

      It'd become way too easy for the speedrunner and that's not just fireborn either. With the way it's set up, if there was a bar to the boss fight, it'd become very difficult for the hunters

    • @manuelespinoza6794
      @manuelespinoza6794 Před 2 lety +14

      @@lair9792 then maybe limit how many hunters can enter the boss fight.

  • @toast9219
    @toast9219 Před 3 lety +179

    Actually, it was impossible for you to win because in order to truly beat the game you must speak to elderbug

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Před 3 lety +2

    10:55 I didn't believe it at first, but it's awesome that that's exactly what you did!

  • @medusathedecepticon
    @medusathedecepticon Před rokem

    Everyone did great this round. It was so intense throughout. Especially whenever FirebOrn would try to fight the watcher knights

  • @ScarletEmber64
    @ScarletEmber64 Před 3 lety +139

    "I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND NOW FIRE!"
    *you underestimate my power*

  • @Mottenprophet
    @Mottenprophet Před 3 lety +234

    Unpopular opinion: hunters should get started in abyss

  • @SashedPotato
    @SashedPotato Před 8 měsíci +1

    It's insane how small this makes the map feel, seeing everyone just know it by heart and dashing through at high speed

  • @sickfrank
    @sickfrank Před 3 lety +1

    I love all your videos so much! Rusty Realya and noob helped me get through the game and you and Templar are the people I show to my friends to show how hard the game is.

  • @goldenpig541
    @goldenpig541 Před 3 lety +377

    He did not talk to elderbug. that's a lose in my eye.