Finding the HOLY GRAIL of camping cook kits
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What backpacking camping hiking cook set or cook system should I get or buy. Best budget ultralight cooking system for the backcountry. Budget titanium pot for cooking. Best backpacking stove. Most ultralight cook set for camping. - ZĂĄbava
As a tea guy, Its so much easier to deal with tea in the mountains and I have 0 need for any fancy gadgets for it. Boil water. Pour in to cup. Add tea bag. Quick and easy delicious morning caffeine.
Yeah that or just instant coffee of you like coffee. Im mostly a coffee guy and i never bother to bring large coffee making stuff just because it takes up to much space and weight plus instant coffee today is very good if you buy good quality coffee.
Are Trangias not a thing in America? You have a great collection of cook kits, but you're missing a Trangia which is like the classic car of cook stoves. Maybe you wouldn't like it. It's bulky and quite heavy. But they are really reliable and so timeless. They make you feel like your on Everest in 1953. Perfect for the snow. Also they are completely silent. One thing you didn't mention in this video is the sound of the cook kits. It can kill the beautiful moment to switch on the Boeing 747 Jetboil. Alcohol stoves are completely silent, which can be nicer when on a peak. Treat yourself to a Trangia.
I have one of the burners from those kits. Well, it was a Swedish military surplus stove and it looks exactly the same so I'm assuming it is the same stove.
Fancee Feast is a better stove than Trangia. And imho in alcohol stoves the best of them all is the turbo gnome for weight/price/performance/flexibility
Honestly never really thought of the noise considering you use it for 4 minutes once, maybe twice a day.
I use a Tangier cook set theyâre a little pricey here in America
Agree. Tragia/knock-offs MUST be a presented option - so widely used. A sprit burner but has some heat control.
Thanks for the videos, Dan! You're part of reason I got into backpacking and I essentially watch almost every video you make. Safe trekking from Oregon!
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Iâm that rubber band guy and still watching!!! Still love the channel Dan, keep killing it. I have the Soto Amicus and it is by far my favorite stove Iâve used. And the Soto helix coffee system is also my favorite. Iâve tried abotut 4-5 other brew systems and none match the Soto as far as weight, cleanup and discarding the grounds and only a paper filter to burn or pack out, also sits above the cup so the pour is easier. Huge Soto fan here
Yes!! Thank you so much! That was one of the best gifts I ever got! That rubber band is so awesome! And thank you so much for still watching :-). Any chance you could tell me where you got them? Iâm on my last one lol!
Yours and others' posts got me surfing on Amazon. I found a $12 Genrics collapsible silicone cone with a metal disk filter. Thoughts? (other than wasting water to wash out pesky grounds)
...but DB's question was first. :)
They are called graffiti bands, Iâll throw what I have in the mail for you.
@@glendabaghian1145 I have had a hario (plastic version), primula brew buddy, And a aero press and none have come close to the Soto. And the only reason I say that is this. I found when you have to clean the grounds off of the pour over it takes a lot of water to clean, and when youâre up on a ridge and it comes down to having a second cup of coffee the next morning or cleaning the grounds off of your first cup (I usually only carry 2 liters at best) then the Soto is a no brainer. The silicone ones are probably pretty awesome and Iâll try one soon as you can literally hit it against a tree to knock the grounds off of it and smash it down to nothing, Iâm always looking for ways to better my outdoor experience and so far the Soto has been the most compact, easiest to clean, you can burn the paper filter and enjoy a brew over with ease.
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That was fun... As always, thanks for showing us a variety with your takes on the different styles and giving links for us to investigate further. I appreciate you investing in the different types and allowing us to make more informed decisions without having to spend the $$$. Keep up the good work.
Took the Stanley pot out on a canoe trip on the Buffalo River in Arkansas and I was blown away by its performance! Quick to boil hot water for my Aeropress and was a great size for single meals. I used the cups and found them super easy to clean.
I ended up going with the Soto Windmaster because the pot is kept closer to the burner than with the Pocket Rocket. Not because I really needed those three seconds from faster boiling back in my life but because that smaller gap - even though it doesn't seem to be a big difference from the PR - keeps the flame significantly more protected from the wind.
True. Good share. Though extra boiling time = fuel consumption. Okay if you can borrow a buddy's can for your last meal or two on a section hike I suppose. Or just bring that second 1/3 full isopro can that we all have leftover if your soloing.
+1 on the SWMâŠpaired it with the Evernew cook set (ECA540), which is a two-pot system. One 750ml pot that nests into a 400ml cup/pot. I like having a cup of coffee in the am while I cook breakfast. I can fit the small can of fuel and the SWM in the bigger pot. Great setupâŠlight and super efficient.
Soto is better in every way
I have the windmaster, and hands down the way to go.
Yup!
I started backpacking back in the 70's so I had an Optimus stove and Svea cookkit. I went through MSR whisperlites, pocketrockets (my favorite) and MSR cooksets from the XPD to a titan pot/mug. That's what I still use, pocketrocket and Titan solo pot/mug. Made a hanging kit for it for winter camping and can't say enough good about it.
I'm happy that you do consider the option of actually cooking a meal from ingredients in you overview vs. just referring to boiling water as "cooking" like so many outdoor channels do. Thanks, Dan!
Great video, I really appreciate you showing us all the different options out there. You have a great sense of humor. Thanks brother
I really do like the jetboil flash that Iâve gotten. I can fit everything in it that I need to. Fuel can, the large pot adapter, the French press kit, even the little empty can punch tool. It all fits in one and I canât get enough of it.
That Stanley pot is heavy, but a great buy. I was a wilderness therapy field guide for a couple of years. We used the $5 stainless steel Ozark Trail cups that you can get at Walmart for every meal, which was great because we cooked over an open fire. It was nice to be able to prop the cup up on the edge of the fire and heat up tea at the end of the day. I went looking for a lid to this cup to protect my tea from ash. I found the Stanley Adventure set and about died with joy. As heavy as it was, I nested that Stanley pot inside my Ozark cup, dropped in one of the green mugs that comes with the Stanley, put my Snowpeak stove in that, and set a small fuel canister on top, and it all fit with the lid on! Best part, the Stanley lid FITS the Ozark cup perfectly!
Every morning on trail, I would use my stove to boil water in the Stanley for my oats and coffee. While the water boiled (and it does take a while longer in that tall, stainless steel pot), I would prep my oatmeal (complete with diced up dried fruit, peanut butter, and honey) in my Ozark cup, and prep the green mug with my Medaglia D'Oro instant espresso. In the evenings, when we had a fire going, I could use my Stanley as a third pot for our group (we carried two MSR pots regularly), or I could heat up water for myself and fellow guide to have tea. And if I was just doing tea for myself, I could slap the Stanley lid on my Ozark cup and heat it up in the fire.
Some guides carried the titanium Toaks cups, which seemed great until they over heated, but they were less comfortable putting the titanium in the fire. I love using stainless steel because I can use it on my stove or over a fire, and I regularly do both. If I'm going light, I'll take just my Ozark, the Stanley lid, and one of the green mugs. If I know I'm only using a stove on a particular trip, I'll carry my cheap Chinese aluminum set, I think mine's a Wuudi and it looks just like the one in this video. The large fuel can fits inside, it's lightweight, and water boils fast in it. Much faster than in the Stanley.
Thanks for the video, Dan. Good work!
Thanks Dan, this was helpful. I have the Stanley cup with a small ISO can and the BRS3000, small bic lighter, iso can stand, hotlips, small scrubby, some twine around the Stanley sitting in a Glacier steel cup. Its pretty simple and cheap.
For solo backpacking. I love my Stanley adventure. It works well with canister stove, my hobo twig stove or on an open fire. Slight modifications makes it very versatile.
My BRS has worked flawlessly for 3 years now.
Can I ask how you modified yours please?
My favorite stove was one I rented from my college. I used it on a four day trip to the beach. It had 2 AA batteries to run a small fan which turned the chamber into a blast furnace. I fueled the thing on popsicle-stick sized pieces of driftwood while camping on the beach in winter. It worked great.
I made a gas stove out of an old can of beans, soda can, and an old rag. Honestly has worked absolute wonders for me
The Stanley Adventure Cook set is bomb proof for those of us on a budget. Great video thank you for sharing this information.
That Stanley option is friggin great: Take out the cups, throw in your medium sized stove (or smaller), the small canister fuel, and then just nest a 550ml cup under it......simplicity works.
I stick my Trangia Chinese knock-off alcohol stove in mine plus one of the plastic cups. You can boil enough water for a cup of coffee and your dehydrated meal of choice at one shot.
Try the jogo coffee filter straw. I use it in the back country and love it!! No more instant coffee! And no need to bring any type of coffee strainer/filter. Just boil water, pour on course coffee grounds and cover for a few mins. When your ready take your straw out and drink straight from the pot. The filter at the bottom of the straw prevents any coffee grinds from being sucked up!
Looks cool! Just bought one on Amazon. Thanks for sharing!!!
I've only gone on two backpacking trips, but I use the Stanley cup set and I think it works pretty great. The small canister fits inside with my pocket rocket 2, a microfiber towel, and a sponge. And I nest the Stanley cup in a ozark trail camp cup. It's the prefect setup for me.
Does the Stanley plastic cup fit inside the stainless steel cup with the fuel canister?
@@melanie3400 You can fit one plastic cup and a fuel canister. You won't be able to do both plastic cups that it comes with.
Good video Dan. I love your sense of humor. Completely resonate with it - makes me laugh! Thanks for making.
You can find alcohol burners that have a sliding top plate which controls the flame size, such as on the Trangia burner. It comes with a separate lid which allows you to leav eiquid fuel in the stove when it is packed away. Brent
The MSR Windpro was my first ever stove. Iâve bought a lot of equipment since but I always keep coming back to the Windpro. Itâs solid as a rock and has never failed me.
Perfect timing! Just came off the first thru hike of the spring season and definitely need to lighten up the load on the cooking situation. Woman in our hike had that Stanley set up she used with her son and â€ïžâ€ïžâ€ïž it! The other guy had the Soto mini and it worked great
Perfect timing Iâm wanting to upgrade my cook kit and I get on here to see what youâd recommend and you post a video three days ago about them. Awesome! Thanks for the great content man!
I also enjoy packing out my firebox nano for weekend adventures. You can use sticks around camp for fuel. The downside is you have to constantly feed the fire and boiling water takes about 8 minutes. But on weekends when you are kicking back and itâs not about miles, itâs a fun stove.
The lid for the Stanley cook pot fits perfectly on the $5 stainless cup from Walmart. Iâve watched the hacks for replacing the tab on the lid with a key ring. That works but Iâve replaced mine with the spring from a wooden clothes pin. Itâll stay upright and cool to the touch. Iâve never seen that hack on the all knowing you tubes. For a small inexpensive cook pot itâs awesome.
After years of struggling with titanium and hard anodized aluminium whereby everything sticks to it, I now solely use non-stick pots and pans - They weigh a bit more, but I no longer need to waste water and paper towel trying to get my cooking vessels clean. I use a cheap non-stick pot from the Australian equivalent of Walmart and I use the Jetboil skillet as my non-stick frying pan... Never looked back...
My go to burner is still a MSR XGK .Burns anything at almost any temperature ,any altitude.
Boils very quickly .
So many good things! I actually use a Bear Bowl as my pot with a Firebox Nano. I generally just use sticks, but sometimes I will use an esbit. My utensil is the Uco Switch. I love that it can be used separately as a fork and spoon, or connected together to become a super long handle.
appreciate your content ive been hiking as early as my father deemed i could walk and the past two years ive been getting into 3-5 day backpacking trips and I definitely notice a consistent change and modification to my systems etc
I just discovered your channel last night and I'm totally addicted! Love it!
I liked your video. The thing I enjoyed also was the background of equipment you had behind you. What an awesome setting.
You've been the absolute best for info. I've learned so much and thank you for all the help. The only thing I can add is that titanium does not conduct well. its not that it transfers heat to well, but actually not well at all and thats why you get the hot spots
One thing with Trail Designs Caldera Cone stuff. They have something they call the "Sidewinder Ti Tri." It fits in the pot and also has add-ons you can buy to make it a wood stove so the bulk issue is gone. Everything for my Ti Tri (Kojin, pieces for wood/twig stove mode etc.) Fits inside the Evernew 900ml wide pot I bought with it. It also has a piece for Esbit cubes
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Love the channel. I just picked up a toaks 550 and canât wait to give it a go. A couple years ago I bought an Espro âultralightâ French press. Itâs a backpacking luxury item that every coffee fan should consider grabbing! Highly recommend
Love your content! A video on your favorite backcountry brewing method would be awesome!
I just got the Soto Thermostack cook set.
It's the same pot, but they add in a smaller pot and a stacking cup. The neat thing is that the way the smaller pot and cup nest creates an air gap and seal effectively making a thermos. I tested it out and it worked about as well as a cheaper (think starbucks) thermos.
Also, the lids are the right size to place under a canister to keep it off of the snow.
I'm new to the camping/ backpacking stoves. The first one I ever came across was the Jetboil Flash, and I loved the concept of it, that it could quickly boil water, or, with the pot support, be used with a skillet. Plus, almost everything fits right inside the cup, and it doesn't weigh much at all. I didn't think for a $100, it was prohibitively expensive.
Here here. Toaks pot, a less reliable burner, lighter, uncooperative titanium windscreen, stand, pot cozy, hot lips or a separate cup for drinking, a bag for the unsecure lid, burned fingers, etc. Once you add up all the parts & pieces to lose at a campsite, longer setup time and cook time... compared to say a JetBoil Flash (13oz.), I'll gladly take a ~4oz. penalty for the best efficiency, fumble-free, and peace of mind knowing a Flash won't tip over, waste fuel, and will keep a freezer bag meal warm inside itself while rehydrating.
~4oz. is the penalty (difference in weight) between a 13oz. Jetboil and the 9oz that makes up all the other parts & pieces of the cook system I roughly described.
Toaks Conundrum: When I first got into backpacking at Covid start, I went out and acquired a Toaks 750, 550, and (I think ) a 350 for coffee. The 750 was right out too big as I eat alone and don't make big meals. The 350 was OK just for my coffee, but not for a meal, even ramen. The 550 had a lid just like the 750, but it had handles like the 350 mug. I then took the 550 for cooking and the 350 for coffee, with the 350 nestled inside the 550 perfectly, but I realized I seldom eat food while simultaneously drinking coffee, so I dumped the 350 mug like it weighed pounds instead of grams, and now I use the 550 w/lid for drink AND food. I then found smaller fuel cans and a tiny stove that fit inside the 550, saving holy space. There are TOAKS configurations for everyone likely, but for me the 550 hits that sweet spot of working fair enough for both drinking and eating.
I use a Toaks 550 with "BRS" and mini Bic lighter under the fuel canister. Lid doesn't fit perfect but it's close. Use a rubber band and you're good to go. I too use the 550 for food and drink.
That's how it works, Saint Jackula. Trial and error teaches what works for each of us, right?
@@tjholcomb1225 Oh for sure. We can follow advice, but so many of us need that trail and error. I like it in these situations, because I can give the items I don't need away or leave them in trail stashes. I love doing that.
Have had my cheap Chinese stove from Amazon for 3 years and still working well. I use the Stanley pot too. Works great. Whole cooking system with stove is $25-30.
Great video as the choice of gear, especially for newbs, is bewildering. I still use my Trangia 27, that was bought as an 18th birthday gift 39 years ago, but with a gas canister conversion. Heavier but I mostly do cycle touring so the extra weight is worth it for the convenience. I use a wood burning 'stick stove' for other stuff.
That Chinese canister stove was my first backpacking stove too, I got it off Amazon along with my GSI minimalist cookset. It lasted me a good 5 years. The stove itself still works but the arms stopped folding out. I upgraded to a jetboil minimo and never looked back.
Still have mine, it just keeps working.
Im now looking into getting my first stove. Im also looking into the jet boil
Thanks Dan, getting some cookware for bike touring. You answered a lot of questions I had. You da man!
The MSR frying pan is great. Unless I need to shave every ounce, it goes with me every time. Perfect for cooking most foods - I do agree, Ti pots are best for boiling and also good for cold soaking. Al tends to flavor food unless it has a really good coating.
The first stove I got was the solo twig stove with a titanium pot to boil water, then I got a Pocket Rocket. Just a few days ago I got the Jetboil Stash and stove, and I can't wait to try it out!!
I love cooking! Super stoked to see these pots!
I have that coffee filter pour-over spring thing and it is excellent. Pour the water in slowly around the edges at first to allow the grounds to steep and not flow right through. Iâve used it at home and on the road too. Give it a try.
Haha haha haha, the BRS stove and a cheap titanium pot is my setup for dayhike
Good infoâđ» I use the Jetboil Minimo with a summit skillet. Perfect for me, light and can actually cook a fish, potatoes, sausage, pancakes, tortilla... excellent setup.
I'm hoping Jetboil makes a detachable clip-on pan stand for the Flash. Wouldn't mind taking it base camping with a collapsible pan & some real eggs.
I hiked the AT with the Stanley cook pot you showed and a home made alcohol stove đ. Upgraded to Toaks 750 and a pocket rocket in Hot Springs, NC. It was life changing. Cool video, was fun all the way through.
I've got a 750ml Toaks pot and a stainless steel mess kit for the cooking that I do in the woods. I've tried virtually all the stove set ups on the market and I go back and forth between my alcohol stove which is basically an overbuilt Trangia, or my MSR Pocket Rocket which I've had for like ten years now. Those Esbit tabs are awful smelling, but you're right they're a killer fire starter.
I have almost as much camp cookware as you. I am really surprised that I came to a very similar favorite as you. I certainly prefer evernew titanium to any other brand. I use a ruta locura carbon fiber lid and a msr pocket rocket deluxe. I have a 12g DIY titanium windscreen which greatly increases fuel efficiency saving nearly 35% of my fuel. One difference, I donât care for packing my fuel tank in my mug. The inside of my mug is one of the few places where thing like chips or crackers donât get destroyed, so I use it as such. Great video and insights.
Hey Dan. Awesome video. I love my jet boil mini mo if I had to pick. Comes with the insert for pots and pans and love the regulator on the burner. But you should check out the toaks 650. I can put a canister, pocket rocket, msr sparker thing, hot mit fingers thing, then lid, then on top of that the jet boil 3 point stand (optional) then upside down on top of that the sea to summit collapsible tumbler (I think, next size down from mug). Then put the whole stack in the orange sleeve and it fits. Just gotta keep the sea to summit cup thing clean, taste like rubber sometimes. Also possibly swap out the 3 point jet boil stand for a French press đ done deal there. Hard to beat.
I used a first gen Jetboil for a few years. Decided I hated that the pot was connected to the stove. You canât make coffee and cook at the same time.
So I bought a snow peak titanium pot lid and cup set at Rei, used the Jetboil burner and pot ring for awhile until I found the folding version of the Optimus Crux. I love that set up. Recently I bought a double wall titanium coffee cup off of Amazon for like 20 bucks. Ditching the DIY Mylar bubble wrap sleeve and using the mug. To accompany this kit I have a folding titanium spork and GSI pour over clamp on coffee filter. I boil a bunch of water at once, use some for my meal and the rest for coffee. Itâs a hodgepodge of a kit but it works and is like half the weight of my Jetboil
wow, so much information, thank you! it answered so many of my questions!
Keep the wonderful video's coming!
Best coffee on the trail video sounds awesome!
I have a Soto Windmaster, amazing stove for New Zealand ridgeline wind and general terrible conditions. I pair it with an MSR Pika teapot, excellent combo!
Thank you for the quick review on so many great products.
Greetings from New Brunswick, Canada. Loved your walk thru the menagerie of stoves, pots & utensils. My wife teases me about having too many camping or backpacking stoves - is 4 really too many? I think she can step back now after seeing your gear closet.
After somewhat fewer trials & trails than you, I also landed on a 750mL Ti pot (Boundless Voyage) with Optimus Crux Lite canister stove as my preferred cook system for 3-season hiking. The 750 pot works for boiling water for a couple of coffees or reheating a good-sized solo meal (Crux stove can simmer).
Really enjoy your videos - you seem very relatable, down to earth. Keep on putting out these entertaining & informative videos.
I used the Stanley on a solo backcountry elk hunting trip and it worked great.
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Dude! Love this vid, you are hilarious!!! I just picked up the toaks 550!! Already had it out for a weekend trip! Awesome and super light!!
For me, I đ€đ€đ€ the GSI Outdoors Halulite Minimalist Kitchen Kit. It is PERFECTION!!! My fuel, stove, utensils, GSI Cleaning Scraper, and bandana fits in it nicely. It comes with a lid that doubles as a drinking lid and a cozy along with a folding spork (that's actually pretty nice,... believe it or not!) and a unique but practical silicone and magnetic finger pot holder. It's super compact and lightweight. I started with the Stanley Adventure Cook Kit, which I still really love to this day, but found that the GSI one works best for me. Fun video to watch but can't believe that you had to try so many to find your one.đ
I've ended up with the same setup, BRS stove in a 900ml titanium pot with the same handle as the stanley pot. Love it !
What a great video Dan. I have a ton of stoves too. I also have quite a few ways to make coffee. I like the Aeropress, the OXO pour over, and the little instant packets.
When you try the Helix - couple it with a Soto Thermostack! It is awesome - You get basically a double-walled cup, that can be separated into two cups. You boil on the first cup, then you pour over into the second cup- Afterwars you can connect them back together to form your insulating double-walled cup. Especially nice in winter.
Also... I think the OG tiny "no name" stove was the Firemaple. FMS-300T. That one has the steel fins less prone to warping under heat. That and the 550 mL Toaks rock as a little boiler kit!
Thanks Dan for the honest review. Having considered the cooking container options I ended up with the Stanley at AUD $25.
Now to figure out what can stove to get.
I use the Stanley set with a gsi cup that the Stanley nests in. 2 small cans of fuel sit in the Stanley pot and my snowpeak stove all in a stuff sack. Been using that set up for close to 10 years. Pretty prefect for me.
I primarily car camp (small sedan), Motocamp and bike camp. My back canât handle backpacking anymore. Weight isnât so much the issue for as volume and flexibility is. My smallest is a small single burner like what you can put on a canister, but offset from the fuel canister so you can use larger/heavier pans if you want. Itâs about 4â x 4â in its container and the flame control is at the canister, good for using larger pots and pans, and is compatible with both butane and propane (up to 1lb canisters). I also have a regular single and double burner stove that I also use depending on the trip. I love my Stanley pot/cup set, but I primarily use it for making tea or coffee. I just got Stanleyâs skillet set that I look forward to trying out this summer.
I use the toaks 550, BSR stove and a neoross windscreen. All 3 are just are just over 5oz total. The windscreen is good for moderate wind but has the added bonus of making a more stable base for the tiny BSR.
I think the Toaks is the champ. I have the Stanley as well, but the small surface area on the bottom makes boiling water a touch longer. The locking lid is nice though. Another nice one is the Joe Robinet 500ml stainless steel pot. It has a hanging handle you can hang it over a fire with, as well as a normal handle that folds in. Great video Dan! Been with you since the beginning. (Also a Wisconsinite!)
Good point on the Stanley's surface area. I hadn't thought about that. I traded my 550 for a 750 Toaks with the top handle after I forgot how hot the handles get. Still too many part & pieces to funble with compared to an all-in-one Jetboil, but that's me. Separate comment above.
I bought the Soto Amicus stove and their 1L+.5L pot set and it's definitely my favorite stove. Super light, I love the four pot stands, and works quite well in the wind (though not as well as the windmaster, but then, I always find a makeshift windscreen anyhow).
As for your alcohol stove, You can DIY one yourself that works much better. I made a 2-inch double-walled one out of a coke can, which allows for the heat to create a vacuum and disperse the flames out of jets you can drill into the "shoulder" (on top of the can). I filled the "wall" with plumber's high-temperature felt as a wick. I use this in winter and 2 oz of denatured alcohol or Heet can last 14 minutes and boils in 2-3 minutes. You can create a simple windscreen as well out of aluminum sheeting. Mine doubles as a pot stand by running 3 long, thin bolts in a triangle pattern through the top of the sheeting and increase air flow by drilling holes in the bottom. All of this fits into my GSI pot as well.
All this to say, if you have the time, you can make a decent alcohol stove+kit that is light-weight and works well in winter.
one of my favorite sets for summer is the msr titan and pocket rocket 2. nests in wonderfully with a small canister full size bic and a napkin :). winter requires me to use my msr whisperlight and 1.1l alpine stowaway pot. ide buy a titanium pot like it (with the handle/latch locking) in a heartbeat. msr gear is rock solid imo. also the humble trangia must never be forgotten.
I LOVE this video. It looks like you raided my gear closet. I have most of the same stoves/pots that you have and then some. I have this obsession that I find a new pot, then I look for that perfect stove to go with it and still be able to fit a small fuel canister. I'm so bad that when my go-to stove was the MSR Superfly and MSR discontinued it a couple years ago, I actually bought a second one, in case my first ever broke. Currently, my go-to stove is the Jetboil MicroMo. I can boil 2 cups of water for a freeze dried meal and use only 7 grams of fuel. Probably the only item I have more of than stoves is backpacks.
I use the Toaks 750 and I love it.
If you keep the fuel upright in the tokas 550 you can store a mini bic lighter under it and the brs stove on top. Lid just off a little bit but a strong rubber band works. Itâs worked for me for 3 years now.
i used the stanley on a cross country road trip. worked like a charm
Great video! I too carry just a a boiling cup and a small frying pan. No need for anything more.
Right now it's a 1 liter steel cup which fits in my water bottle pouch, around the bottle. Lid goes underneath. Small 6 sided non-stick aluminium pan inside the backpack.
I dont use gas canisters. I carry a Trangia-style or beercan alcohol burner in the summer. Multifuel burner with petrol in the winter.
Love watching your content. One comment though is that I have the âcheap Chinese garbageâ canister stove you mention at 4:26. I got mine for around $10 bucks in 2009 and still use it still today as my solo backpack stove. SeriouslyâŠused it 2 weeks ago in Moab to heat water for coffee. Almost 13 years old and has never failed me. đ
I've watched a lot of your videos and I've never thought this before but in this video, for some reason, you're really reminding me of Jim from The Office.
Love your videos. Keep up the great work.
I'm heading out to hike Pictured Rocks this weekend and I'm hoping to get better weather than you did. Take care.
Moo
I got the Evernew titanium pot with the little holes at the top, best pot ever!
I love the Helix Pour over coffee maker! Definitely worth taking on a backpacking trip. My only recommendation is to use larger #4 cone filters instead of the ones they provide. The smaller ones hang down into your mug too far. I get a better cup and a better experience using the larger filters.
Very cool. Great tip. I bet the pour spout lid on my Flash would nicely control the flow of hot water.
FYI, if you take the press mechanism from a 1L french press it fits the stanley cook kit perfectly. on backpacking trips or car camping it can be a huge morale boost having non-instant coffee in a small form factor. also, on shorter trips, if you don't mind the extra weight, a hand coffee grinder for fresh ground coffee. just saying. it's been a winner (though i have to lug this stuff around lol). i can take a pic if you want, but i'm sure you get the idea.
And if you want it to be lighter or smaller, you can separate the plunger from the lid, and most of the time you can unscrew the stem from the plunger screen to pack it flatter.
Needed this!! Thank you!
I have to have my morning coffee and use the little lightweight spiral jobbie and it's perfect. I have a Stanley stainless steel pot too - first thing I bought and I thought I scored when I found it at Target on clearance. Since graduated to the Minimo, which is just wonderful. Next adventure will be using it with a lightweight pan to make an actual meal and not just boiling water. Wish me luck.
Quite the collection, a lot of good information.
Trying to get ideas on what to bring kayaking/canoeing and stumbled across your channel. I have a few things that we bring but could definitely shave off more weight. I have enjoyed your videos. Thanks.
A big drawback to the Stanley is its instability on stove supports. The Stanley pot diameter is much smaller than the Toaks 550, for example, and the Stanley pot has curved bottoms relative to its height that make it more tip-prone.
I love my good old rugged Stanley pot, but I absolutely love my new Toaks 750 even more!
I've been running the same "BRS" for years now, with zero issues (to be fair, I use it maybe 20 days a year).
I have all kinds of utensils, including a long handle titanium spoon, but my favorite is my Toaks titanium folding spork (it also fits inside the 750 with the canister and stove).
I mostly just boil water, and titanium effin' ROCKS when ounces count!
For coffee: Folgers Coffee Singles (tea bag coffee) is my personal go-to, since it requires no special equipment and isn't instant freeze dried instant coffee.
I know I've commented this on your videos before (and not just yours!), but... just cut the top off the dang freeze dried meal bags and then you don't get messy hands when using shorter utensils... it works wonderfully - trust me!
Just pull out that trusty SD Classic and snip it off!
question for you. Do you know if the Stanley can nest in side the Toaks? Also can you nest the toaks 750 inside a GSI/Ozark mug?
@@Kevinschart sorry it took me so long to get back to you. Been busy, and my stainless gear was packed away.
I just tried it, and yes, the Stanley pot WILL fit inside of a Toaks 750 Ti, without the lid of course.
I also have one of the Ozark $5 stainless mugs w/ folding handles, and the 750 sort of fits inside, but VERY tightly. Maybe the GSI has a slightly bigger I.D. and will fit better; I don't know, as I don't have one. You would also have to have a Toaks 750 without handles, as they bottom out on the lip of the mug long before the pot is fully nestled (mine has handles).
@@granite-headgold1038 Really appreciate it. I actually just got back for an overnighter using my new toaks 900ml 115cm. I packed the ozark mug inside, with a gas can and BRS stove. It was obviously much lighter than the stanley, but titanium can't hold any heat at all. Thanks again
@@Kevinschart no worries man. I don't mind that it doesn't hold heat. I just boil water for my freeze dried breakfast or oatmeal, then use the rest to make coffee right in the pot. I'm usually looking to eat and get out of camp ASAP anyhow, so it's nice that the coffee cools down enough to drink down quick so I can break camp. Doing it all with the 750 is real nice, because it really saves weight, and I don't actually cook on-trail (freeze dried, ready to eat, or cold soak meals only). I sometimes will carry a silicone collapsible mug for my coffee if I'm not doing miles and more just camping in place; it's only 2oz's.
Trangia is the best, no debate needed.
I use the GSI Outdoors Ultra Light Java Drip. It works just like the thing youâre going to try but doesnât require filters that youâll then have to pack out as trash.
Thereâs nothing better than a hot cup of real drip coffee in the morning. Iâll never go back to instant coffee on trail anymore.
Iâd recommend testing the GSI one. Iâd love to see your opinion.
I love my Jet boil flash. A 100mil fuel,support legs, burner, pan adapter, and coffee press all fit inside. It makes great coffee mug too. Perfect for dehydrated meals, pan-fried trout, and most importantly... a great cup of coffee.
How have I not know about this channel before today?!? Dang algorithms. That tightly cropped action shot to capture the koozie pronunciation - top job cinematic tricks
As far as lightweight coffee making goes...
Pour hot water over some grounds in one cup, steep for about 4 min like you would for French press, stir it down and wait another 5-10 min, and then pour it into another cup.
You don't really need a filter or screen as the grounds settle out.
Another option would be to make Turkish or Cuban style coffee.
Edit: you can also get a large tea brew basket and put your coffee grounds in that, steep for about 4-5 minutes, then pull the basket out.
My favourite is the titanium pot and burner by Primus. Great video. For cold climates isobutane is the gas you need.