So, is it really a muzzleloader if it loads through the breech? In this case, yes, because with the new Traditions NitroFire rifle, the bullet is still loaded via the muzzle.
I have developed a new cartridge for muzzleloading rifles which is loaded from the muzzle but ejects itself from the barrel after use and is non-corrosive. This product sets a new standard in safety and reliability for muzzleloader ammunition in the same way shotgun shells are standardized for use in shotguns. Shotshells have a load of shot and powder which produce a safe pressure in shotguns manufactured by many different companies. The pressure produced by this cartridge can be designed to work safely in the muzzleloaders produced by the various manufacturers. It would also greatly help new muzzleloader shooters with safety, and it would also give them a product which will not destroy the barrel of their muzzleloader due to corrosive residue.
Those who say smokeless powder cannot be used in a muzzleloader may not know “Blackhorn 209” is 83% smokeless powder, based on the MSD sheet for the product. Therefore, the claim that smokeless powder cannot be used safely in a muzzleloader falls apart very quickly. This cartridge could also be loaded with BH209 or a similar formulation in states which do not allow "smokeless" powder during muzzleloader season, in the same way the breechloading "Firestick" cartridge is now used in the "Nitrofire" muzzleloader. This would be a "Muzzlestick" cartridge which would work in thousands of other modern muzzleloaders, which cannot use the "Firestick" cartridge. This cartridge can also be removed from inline muzzleloaders by removing the breechplug. I am now looking for a company willing to mass produce this new cartridge for the market. I would greatly appreciate it if you would pass this information along to those you know who may be interested in this new product.
A link is found below which demonstrates this new product.
Unfortunately, this would not be legal in Idaho on several levels. No 209 primers, must be loose powder, has to have a firing mechanism that is exposed to the weather, all items must be loaded through the muzzle. Too bad, I like the idea, I have two Tradition rifles now.
Lot of grey area here. Is their so sort of self for the sabot set on so not a straight smooth boar rifle . To prevent be use by 410 shot shell or some like that. All must act like breachloader
Load the bullet from the muzzle, power and primer from the breach. I asked local DNR here in Iowa and no one had an answer for me, looked at me strange though. Like I was talking witchcraft.
I don't know.....I'm not a ML, but this system might be a good into to it. Here's the catch: today, I went to Cabellas ready to spend five or six hundred bucks. No rifles, no primers, no firesticks, and no one to answer any questions. Thats a non starter for me, at this point. Maybe someday.
Not legal in Wisconsin muzzleloader season, "...all muzzleloaders must have a solid threaded breech plug making them capable of being loaded only from the muzzle."
You better off with a regular muzzleloader because their are gunshops in remote areas that might not carry fire sticks or Whitehots pellets Triple 7 pellets they just have loose black powder and primers tradition goma stop making nitro fire rifle because of sales it’s too expensive
This is some serious grey area for muzzle loader season. I like the idea but I only imagine that some states are going to put the kibosh on this.
Leland Holton doubt it, you still load the bullet from the front
Not legal for muzzleloading season in Tennessee because they are loaded from the breach. Check your local laws.
This is illegal in Virginia as well.
@@620john620 Bullet is loaded from the muzzle.
not sure if they know the meaning of muzzleloader and breach loader
I have developed a new cartridge for muzzleloading rifles which is loaded from the muzzle but ejects itself from the barrel after use and is non-corrosive. This product sets a new standard in safety and reliability for muzzleloader ammunition in the same way shotgun shells are standardized for use in shotguns. Shotshells have a load of shot and powder which produce a safe pressure in shotguns manufactured by many different companies. The pressure produced by this cartridge can be designed to work safely in the muzzleloaders produced by the various manufacturers. It would also greatly help new muzzleloader shooters with safety, and it would also give them a product which will not destroy the barrel of their muzzleloader due to corrosive residue.
Those who say smokeless powder cannot be used in a muzzleloader may not know “Blackhorn 209” is 83% smokeless powder, based on the MSD sheet for the product. Therefore, the claim that smokeless powder cannot be used safely in a muzzleloader falls apart very quickly.
This cartridge could also be loaded with BH209 or a similar formulation in states which do not allow "smokeless" powder during muzzleloader season, in the same way the breechloading "Firestick" cartridge is now used in the "Nitrofire" muzzleloader. This would be a "Muzzlestick" cartridge which would work in thousands of other modern muzzleloaders, which cannot use the "Firestick" cartridge.
This cartridge can also be removed from inline muzzleloaders by removing the breechplug.
I am now looking for a company willing to mass produce this new cartridge for the market. I would greatly appreciate it if you would pass this information along to those you know who may be interested in this new product.
A link is found below which demonstrates this new product.
CZcams video: “Self-Ejecting Muzzleloader Safety Cartridge: Product Debut (short version)”
Unfortunately, this would not be legal in Idaho on several levels. No 209 primers, must be loose powder, has to have a firing mechanism that is exposed to the weather, all items must be loaded through the muzzle. Too bad, I like the idea, I have two Tradition rifles now.
my area requires powder and bullet through the muzzle lol
Wouldn't be legal in Kentucky, if you load the charge from the breach, it's not consider a muzzle loader here.
They say it's legal in Kentucky
Lot of grey area here. Is their so sort of self for the sabot set on so not a straight smooth boar rifle . To prevent be use by 410 shot shell or some like that. All must act like breachloader
Twra already came out and said it will be illegal for us
How is this a muzzleloader? What if I make my own round for it?
You would have to machine the barrel then in which case why not just do it on a cheaper gun
4473 to buy it??
Not legal for muzzleloading season in Tennessee because they load from the breach. Check your local laws.
Load the bullet from the muzzle, power and primer from the breach. I asked local DNR here in Iowa and no one had an answer for me, looked at me strange though. Like I was talking witchcraft.
I don't know.....I'm not a ML, but this system might be a good into to it. Here's the catch: today, I went to Cabellas ready to spend five or six hundred bucks. No rifles, no primers, no firesticks, and no one to answer any questions. Thats a non starter for me, at this point. Maybe someday.
Not in VA! They sent an email to registered hunters
If it’s loaded from the rear it not a muzzleloader
It won't fly here Oregon, our muzzle loader laws are super tight....
Unfortunately they want a 4473 to buy this muzzleloader
Not legal to hunt with in Tennessee
When will they be out 2020?
Not legal in Wisconsin muzzleloader season, "...all muzzleloaders must have a solid threaded breech plug making them capable of being loaded only from the muzzle."
And yet they sell them here anyway
It doesn't meet the law in several states. It's a black powder single shot slug gun answering a question nobody asked..
That just seems inaccurate over distance and not as fun as an actual old style firearm.
"muzzleloader"
You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means
0:41 = NOT a mussel loader , & not a cased ammunition ,
Man any gun is legal wtf happened to this country is England here or what??
Anymore u wonder if they ever left
Exactly.
this is legal to own and shoot, just that hunting have different rules
Seems like a single barrel rifle with extra steps.
single barrel? As oppose to what? You have a rifle with multiple barrels? May I see it?
@@frydemwingz I want a 22 pump with 2 barrels with snake shot just for fun
What’s the point 🤷♂️
Can you get this in 45
I believe it's only 50
It's basically a shotgun which is probably why it requires a 4473.
You better off with a regular muzzleloader because their are gunshops in remote areas that might not carry fire sticks or Whitehots pellets Triple 7 pellets they just have loose black powder and primers tradition goma stop making nitro fire rifle because of sales it’s too expensive
Not legal in TN TWRA has posted a psa on this
So... can i put a .410 in it? Or nah
Probably, that’s the problem with these, they really aren’t muzzleloaders
Illegal in va
that's not a muzzleloader