First Look: The Traditions NitroFire Muzzleloader

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • So, is it really a muzzleloader if it loads through the breech? In this case, yes, because with the new Traditions NitroFire rifle, the bullet is still loaded via the muzzle.

Komentáře • 48

  • @RadDadisRad
    @RadDadisRad Před 4 lety +11

    This is some serious grey area for muzzle loader season. I like the idea but I only imagine that some states are going to put the kibosh on this.

    • @HunterXenios
      @HunterXenios Před 4 lety +1

      Leland Holton doubt it, you still load the bullet from the front

    • @620john620
      @620john620 Před 3 lety +3

      Not legal for muzzleloading season in Tennessee because they are loaded from the breach. Check your local laws.

    • @locustdalecattlecompany7974
      @locustdalecattlecompany7974 Před 3 lety +1

      This is illegal in Virginia as well.

    • @atvraceryfz77
      @atvraceryfz77 Před 3 lety +2

      @@620john620 Bullet is loaded from the muzzle.

  • @edgurecki1333
    @edgurecki1333 Před 4 lety +14

    not sure if they know the meaning of muzzleloader and breach loader

  • @SpotterVideo
    @SpotterVideo Před rokem

    I have developed a new cartridge for muzzleloading rifles which is loaded from the muzzle but ejects itself from the barrel after use and is non-corrosive. This product sets a new standard in safety and reliability for muzzleloader ammunition in the same way shotgun shells are standardized for use in shotguns. Shotshells have a load of shot and powder which produce a safe pressure in shotguns manufactured by many different companies. The pressure produced by this cartridge can be designed to work safely in the muzzleloaders produced by the various manufacturers. It would also greatly help new muzzleloader shooters with safety, and it would also give them a product which will not destroy the barrel of their muzzleloader due to corrosive residue.

    Those who say smokeless powder cannot be used in a muzzleloader may not know “Blackhorn 209” is 83% smokeless powder, based on the MSD sheet for the product. Therefore, the claim that smokeless powder cannot be used safely in a muzzleloader falls apart very quickly.
    This cartridge could also be loaded with BH209 or a similar formulation in states which do not allow "smokeless" powder during muzzleloader season, in the same way the breechloading "Firestick" cartridge is now used in the "Nitrofire" muzzleloader. This would be a "Muzzlestick" cartridge which would work in thousands of other modern muzzleloaders, which cannot use the "Firestick" cartridge.
    This cartridge can also be removed from inline muzzleloaders by removing the breechplug.
    I am now looking for a company willing to mass produce this new cartridge for the market. I would greatly appreciate it if you would pass this information along to those you know who may be interested in this new product.

    A link is found below which demonstrates this new product.

    CZcams video: “Self-Ejecting Muzzleloader Safety Cartridge: Product Debut (short version)”

  • @darrellburchfield2608
    @darrellburchfield2608 Před 4 lety +2

    Unfortunately, this would not be legal in Idaho on several levels. No 209 primers, must be loose powder, has to have a firing mechanism that is exposed to the weather, all items must be loaded through the muzzle. Too bad, I like the idea, I have two Tradition rifles now.

    • @chiyan2314
      @chiyan2314 Před 3 lety

      my area requires powder and bullet through the muzzle lol

  • @tomslongguns443
    @tomslongguns443 Před 4 lety +3

    Wouldn't be legal in Kentucky, if you load the charge from the breach, it's not consider a muzzle loader here.

  • @jamespugh
    @jamespugh Před 4 lety +1

    Lot of grey area here. Is their so sort of self for the sabot set on so not a straight smooth boar rifle . To prevent be use by 410 shot shell or some like that. All must act like breachloader

  • @swaggerjackerxx
    @swaggerjackerxx Před 3 lety +1

    Twra already came out and said it will be illegal for us

  • @randomguy822
    @randomguy822 Před 4 lety +4

    How is this a muzzleloader? What if I make my own round for it?

    • @kanekopoint4273
      @kanekopoint4273 Před 2 lety

      You would have to machine the barrel then in which case why not just do it on a cheaper gun

  • @JoshNormandy
    @JoshNormandy Před 3 lety +1

    4473 to buy it??

  • @620john620
    @620john620 Před 3 lety +2

    Not legal for muzzleloading season in Tennessee because they load from the breach. Check your local laws.

    • @20bassmaster
      @20bassmaster Před 3 lety +2

      Load the bullet from the muzzle, power and primer from the breach. I asked local DNR here in Iowa and no one had an answer for me, looked at me strange though. Like I was talking witchcraft.

  • @bradmiller9993
    @bradmiller9993 Před 2 lety

    I don't know.....I'm not a ML, but this system might be a good into to it. Here's the catch: today, I went to Cabellas ready to spend five or six hundred bucks. No rifles, no primers, no firesticks, and no one to answer any questions. Thats a non starter for me, at this point. Maybe someday.

  • @jcp3sons
    @jcp3sons Před 3 lety +1

    Not in VA! They sent an email to registered hunters

  • @zachpacktrick5723
    @zachpacktrick5723 Před 3 lety +1

    If it’s loaded from the rear it not a muzzleloader

  • @curtstrickland4297
    @curtstrickland4297 Před 4 lety +1

    It won't fly here Oregon, our muzzle loader laws are super tight....

  • @abseconPC
    @abseconPC Před 4 lety +1

    Unfortunately they want a 4473 to buy this muzzleloader

  • @ericleke4899
    @ericleke4899 Před 3 lety +1

    Not legal to hunt with in Tennessee

  • @jerrylittle8922
    @jerrylittle8922 Před 4 lety

    When will they be out 2020?

  • @GreenMosin93
    @GreenMosin93 Před 2 lety

    Not legal in Wisconsin muzzleloader season, "...all muzzleloaders must have a solid threaded breech plug making them capable of being loaded only from the muzzle."

  • @MrSteve280
    @MrSteve280 Před 3 lety

    It doesn't meet the law in several states. It's a black powder single shot slug gun answering a question nobody asked..

  • @daleytayler8583
    @daleytayler8583 Před 3 lety +3

    That just seems inaccurate over distance and not as fun as an actual old style firearm.

  • @chasebh89
    @chasebh89 Před 3 lety +4

    "muzzleloader"
    You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means

  • @WapTek123
    @WapTek123 Před 4 lety

    0:41 = NOT a mussel loader , & not a cased ammunition ,

  • @xxskitsxx15
    @xxskitsxx15 Před 4 lety +2

    Man any gun is legal wtf happened to this country is England here or what??

    • @jamespugh
      @jamespugh Před 4 lety +1

      Anymore u wonder if they ever left

    • @xxskitsxx15
      @xxskitsxx15 Před 4 lety

      Exactly.

    • @chiyan2314
      @chiyan2314 Před 3 lety +1

      this is legal to own and shoot, just that hunting have different rules

  • @funbunlol101
    @funbunlol101 Před 4 lety +2

    Seems like a single barrel rifle with extra steps.

    • @frydemwingz
      @frydemwingz Před 3 lety +2

      single barrel? As oppose to what? You have a rifle with multiple barrels? May I see it?

    • @kanekopoint4273
      @kanekopoint4273 Před 2 lety

      @@frydemwingz I want a 22 pump with 2 barrels with snake shot just for fun

  • @stevanrose7439
    @stevanrose7439 Před 2 lety

    What’s the point 🤷‍♂️

  • @robertbrads1169
    @robertbrads1169 Před 3 lety

    Can you get this in 45

  • @mds6387
    @mds6387 Před 2 lety

    It's basically a shotgun which is probably why it requires a 4473.

  • @muddog2159
    @muddog2159 Před 2 lety

    You better off with a regular muzzleloader because their are gunshops in remote areas that might not carry fire sticks or Whitehots pellets Triple 7 pellets they just have loose black powder and primers tradition goma stop making nitro fire rifle because of sales it’s too expensive

  • @dannymcgriff5977
    @dannymcgriff5977 Před 3 lety

    Not legal in TN TWRA has posted a psa on this

  • @PezCandyDispensers
    @PezCandyDispensers Před 4 lety

    So... can i put a .410 in it? Or nah

    • @rex8958
      @rex8958 Před 3 lety

      Probably, that’s the problem with these, they really aren’t muzzleloaders

  • @knightofthecourtofhotdog7864

    Illegal in va

  • @yakamarezlife
    @yakamarezlife Před 2 lety

    that's not a muzzleloader