Why most language learning apps DON'T work
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- Äas pĹidĂĄn 12. 06. 2024
- Feeling annoyed that language apps never seem to work for you? You're not alone.
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In this video I discuss how language learning apps have some pretty big flaws that make them often unsuccesful tools for language learning. I describe the top 3 ways apps fail, but also give tips on how to best use them. I also reveal a bit more info on my upcoming language learning app.
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What is your personal opinion of today's language learning apps, what do you think could be improved?
Ikenna! Can you make a vrchat video again? With talking in different languages? They're very good. Wish to have more of them!
Hey Ikenna, can you make a video on how you got started on youtube and how you became good at editing?
How is your German coming along?
Do I have to pay for your app?
Is the app going to be on something like steam for pc or is it going to be only mobile?
As someone who has been trying to learn Spanish on Duo for about 50 days now, I can honestly say I've been struggling to keep up in very basic sentences when actually trying to verbally communicate. This is incredibly exciting news and I'm for sure signing up, I wish you and your team the best of luck!
Hey SecretDamnation, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
Iâve successfully learned Spanish to an upper intermediate level. Havenât studied flash card or Duolingo in 3 years. First 3 years I wasted my time doing that crap. 6 years altogether. Comprehensible input just watch shows on Netflix to learn n listen to audiobooks youâve already read or know the story of like Harry Potter. Trust me youâll be better off
@KaraDUN Yes it does, take Matt vs Japan for example, he learned Japanese all by input, watching, reading, and then context will come naturally from experience and also grammar.
@KaraDUN yes. Comprehensible input works for every language. For example Iâm learning Turkish n Russian for about 3 months now. I havenât studied one drop of grammar n Iâm already starting to understand a little bit. Literally all I do is watch the show in English then in the target language so I know whatâs going on. Thatâs how you make it comprehensible. You have to do it for hours a day tho or itâll take longer to see results
@@Trillvil1 Duolingo is interesting for you to create a vocabulary, create a study habit.
I had a hard time studying just watching Netflix a language I never studied with.
So I recommend knowing how to reconcile various study methodologies.
Duolingo does its job very well.
Ikenna you're the reason I was able to learn 3 months of French with Pimsleur! You're an inspiration to us all, and I'm so glad you're back and feeling better!
The first 3 months are the most useful. They get into obscure tenses after that that you probably won't use much at all.
C'est bon à entendre! C'est toujours sympas d'entendre parlÊ de personnes qui ont rÊussi à apprendre une langue grâce à quelqu'un! ^^
Yo Ikenna! So I've been trying to learn Japanese and I've been doing it with this little unknown app called Kawaiinihongo which, IMO, is probably one of the best and most fun Japanese learning apps so far, but it's very underground and not many people know about it, but it's helped me a lot! They also have a more game-fied vers. of it called kawaiidungeon!! thought I'd mention it since it's not one of the boring apps but I also feel like it's not too similar to Duolingo!!
I love kawaiinihongo too and the sister app kawaii dungeon they're excellent for learning hiragana and katakana.
I'm going to try them out, thanks!
ikr! kawaiiNihongo is so cute and fun!!
yess i love it
Omg itâs such a great app! Love it so much :D
Duo is a bit boring but if you stick with until you finish the language course, you learn a lot. I have a notebook where I write down everything I learn from Duo (Italian course) and that way I keep track of what Iâm learning
Howâs that italian learning?
i am studying french and while im doing that i do my 7th grade french book's activities.
most people say duoling is not worth it but i say it is, even better with their new audio and stories feature
I like Duolingo but I want the lessons to be a bit shorter or allow us to quit the lesson at anytime and continue off later on.
@@sunflower8227 Yes, thanks to duo I've learn some basic Esperanto and ukrainian and ofc practice some English
the only reason im finishing the course (french) is because the leaderboard and iâm too competitive lmao
I remember when I decided to stop relying on Duolingo, and bought a 3-part textbook set to start learning a new language ( Russian). It ended up having a ton of mistakes and poor explanation (amazon reviews gave next to no mention of the mistakes, but perhaps they didn't know), burning me out and making me go back to Duolingo. While Duo feels way more intelligently put together, I still don't like the wording of their tips and notes as well as the abundance of nonsensical sentences vs useful ones. IMO Duolingo is good for breaking the beginner barrier before moving on to a more long-term resource and routine.
Do you do immersion in your target language? Like reading books and watching stuff? If you're not already you might be ready to start, either way good luck learning!
Duo has a lot of mistakes and wrong translations, not sure for other languages but I had a lot of problems with learning Hungarian.
@@ntrg3248 Thanks and yeah I do!
@@nenadpopov3601 Yeah, unfortunately it feels like all their focus is on Spanish and French, as well as adding new languages rather than maintaining and improving the other languages
I recommend Lingodeer it is currently the best language app on playstore by far! Currently using it to learn Japanese but there's many other languages on the app including Russian, checkout reviews of it on youtube and good luckđ¤đž
For me, an app that gets me to an intermediate level has served it's purpose. At A2/b1, I don't need the app anymore as I can move on to content outside of them. Using any one resource alone (especially an app) is a mistake.
As a language learner with ADHD started language learning at 20, I'm very much looking forward to your app, at this point I listen to music in my target language and do 1 duo lesson a day, I know I have the drive and passion to do more, I just dont, hopefully your app can help with this, SO PLEASE PLEASE HAVE SWEDISH đ
Have you tried dipping your toes in the water and immersing?
@@Acro_LangLearn I have a 90 song playlist where I listen to some of the songs every day, watched most of the swedish shows available on netflix, and Im trying to get my hands on a swedish book, nonfiction about the gang war in Rinkeby
@@dirtydirtyshisno7284 Very nice đ
IMO: A SUPERB language learning app has you learn vocabulary by games, and then after a lesson, you have a mini conversation to review what you just learned. (Edit) I mean after a lesson of how to say a word, how to read it in text, then a real teacher will come and help review what you just learned. Lol never gonna be an app like that.
Um I can't find for some reason
@@ro_orr What
That sounds like Duolingo stories
ikr bahaha duolingo stories are fun tho
Checkout these apps "Study Japanese NHK" & Lingodeer, the first app I mentioned does exactly what you mentioned the 2nd one is more so a grammar learning app but it's super fun to use, the explanations for particles and the grammar a good and the UI is fantastic only downside is that it has a yearly subscription. 10/10 I do recommend
TLDR: if you rely on just an app or choose one of the âfluent in 6mosâ bs courses youâre gonna have a bad time.
If you only rely on the apps. The problem is you. Not an app on earth can replace reading, writing, conversation, and consuming media. Nothing is wrong with the apps. Itâs how seriously you are taking the language. If you rely on an app to teach you everything or choose one of those âfluent in 6mosâ bs courses you just do t want to work.
When was the last time we read a book in other language? Thatâs how we get better. Itâs why our teachers encouraged us to read and write every damn day lmaoo
Pretty much agree
The duolingo bird haunts my dreams. Gives me anxiety..yet I see itâs face everywhere...
Hey LeBeautiful, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
Didnât expect to see you here
Very nice! You identified exactly the core issues with the existing apps and also games for language learning. Can't wait for it and I'm looking forward to making a review video about it aswell.
Iâve used Babble for 2 years now. It has/had 2 uses. 1. Was to introduce myself to trying out learning a language. 2. Vocabulary. All I use it for now is vocab. And I havnt found a better way that works for me to remember new words. I got a teacher 2 months in and relied on them to give me the grammar tools I need. But the app has been running alongside me since the start as a supplementary tool.
A lot of the Apps are about advertising and subscription fees. They are created to encourage to buy products and spend money. That, "15 minutes per-day" will not get anyone fluent fast!
Getting fluent fast will never happen. It takes time to learn a language. Feeling like it should be fast is thinking exactly like the people who think they should go on a diet and they'll see lasting results after a month or two.
@@coenx1 Exactly! Like working out. I had to workout out hardcore for almost 3 years before, I started getting the body, I wanted!
I am so excited for your app!! I have been learning Spanish since I was in kindergarten and Iâm pretty good, but I always seem to get the correct grammar mixed up with English grammar and no one ever corrects me! So I am really excited for a much better app!!
No, Duolingo. No matter how much you push it, I will not get Duolingo Plus!
I'm so happy that you are posting again! Keep it coming đ
I'm so happy to hear 9:42
I'm at an intermediate level in Spanish and i'm sort of stuck with trying to improve my speaking skills.
Couldn't be more excited about this app if what you're saying is all accurate.
I'm waiting for your app I really want to improve my english. Nice job Ikenna and of course to the team behind this !!
superrrr excited for ur language app ikenna its gon b GREAT ily bruh preci8 u đ¤
im really interested in this app that you all are making, and i wish i was in the position to be able to help (kickstarter wise, etc.) and i hope ill be able to support you when the app does come out!
This is very informative! And the app sounds super interesting and promising!
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Signed up for your app when the 1st vid came out. SOOOOOO EXCITED TO USE IT!!!!!
Looks good! Hope to see the app out soon!
I use pimsleur ($20 month) for audio comprehension, Duolingo for spelling and writing practice on site with keyboard, and try to read Spanish translated comics or non translated comics/posts. For me having both allows me to practice new material both ways, teaching new vocab while also having times where the vocab mixes and I get double emphesive via both Duolingo and Pimsleur. I think Duolingo is good, but as others said, don't solely rely on one form of language learning.
Ikenna, I've read your E-book and with your help, and recommendations, I've managed to boost my knowledge in MSA (Modern Standard Arabic). Something that I was not able to do In the university for a couple of years. I'm waiting for your APP, and I can't wait to see how it will look. I truly hope that there will be MSA as an option. Cheers!
AYO I'm so excited for the app!! Can't wait :p
Great vid as always đ
I'm considering signing up but before I do I have a big question. Will Korean or possibly Mandarin be in the alpha/beta version or is it a down the line matter? If either one is included I will jump on signing up so fast but if not I'll gladly wait for later. :)
very relatable, seems like you are well aware of how learning don't happen. Will see about giving it a chance
Love your videos currently learning Russian and these language learning apps feeling dry ngl and I'm losing motivation but I still learn everyday.
Ikenna, do you have any advice on time management for people learning, improving, and trying to maintain multiple languages at once? Particularly if they're at different levels in each language, and have much time taken up by commitments, a career, etc?
Awesome! I enjoyed this video!
He is almost at 1 mil! That is the second most thing Iâm excited for and number 1 being his new app! đĽđŞđ˝đđđ
I'm really excited for this tbh
Nothing wrong with these apps as long as you know that it wonât get you fluent and at best will get you to a B1 level and there will be lots of work to do after you finish the app to get you to that level.
ahhh i canât wait!!!
Ikenna is very, VERY talented at learning this stuff, and I can truthfully say that he's correct in the terms of apps. I am currently learning Japanese and the only app i use EVERY SINGLE DAY is Duolingo. But, unlike others, I don't use it for the regular courses. I use Duolingo to learn Hiragana and Katakana and to kind of just review over them every day. Their alphabet course is, somewhat efficient and it has been 100 days marking today that I've used it for that purpose. One app i find quite helpful is called renshuu. It helps you a lot with sentence structure and learning new words, and I've actually understood what they're telling me. I have a whole notebook dedicated to what I learn on renshuu. But, I will say, I really would like to try out your app. Out of everything that is "supposed" to keep me motivated, you do. I am currently working on some new vocabulary, so ill be able to make better sentences, but wow, i am so so glad that you decided to make a youtube channel dedicated to learning languages. (P.S., i adore your vrchat videos, and those keep me super motivated, so thank you, Ikenna! I really owe you.)
i knew it ! Waiting eagerly for the app
I've used a lot of language apps, but the only one I left on my phone is "Drops." I rarely use it at all, but it's my favorite. The software I use most is "Anki," right alongside Drops. Motivating yourself is not as reliable as creating a routine system, for example: I have over 100 cards to do on Anki every day, and I do this every day regardless of what I'm doing. So I think a routine is a more effective and reliable way than motivating yourself.
Hey Ikenna, love your videos, I wanted to ask about app. I am really looking forward to your app, my next language is Arabic. Will your app support Arabic on launch?
I've used Duolingo for the past six years or so. I've been learning French for 9 days now and I'm absolutely fine with it. I'm being taught words and structures to use in every day life, only a few weird memorable sentences. I'm almost finished with the second of checkpoints and I can confidently read and write and speak a bit, but as usual, my aural comprehension is lacking. But it's French so that's expected.
6 years...it took you less than 2 years as a baby to understand your parents!
I am almost fluent in 3 months of French trough Pimsleur
@@wild4fp being a baby helps, your brain is still growing so learning a language that is spoke everyday your brain picks it up and it adjusts it. ( Sort of bad English )
Always the first language is taught by direct method, which basically is a method where you learn a language... without using another language ( through the method of pictures, gestures, etc... )
Love the two people missing the point that you've been doing French for 9 DAYS and not the whole 6 years you've used the app.
@@MarriedMule ikr
Videogame + language learning? Is this a dream? Sign me up! đ
Okay, I signed myself up, lol đ
Hey Alicia, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
@@ItsameAlex Get help, asap!!!
Learning a new language, basic word learning at first, I take photo of rooms in my house and my local walks, upload with a partner and learn the noun I see, colour etc... Then learn basic verbs i.e. to walk, to see, to wash etc from the photo as you do these things every day! In present then past tense then future tense. I read a story online, with translation possible it for it, highlight the verbs, then bound and connecting words. Going over the same sort story will take days or weeks but good foundation building then start on another. Just some ideas....
Iâve been playing the Sims in my target language to learn it so I feel you on the video game aspect of your app.
do you feel like playing sims in your target language has helped a lot? i like playing the sims so perhaps iâll try this out
@@pri5808 I donât play Sims but if it has tons of dialogue, yeah it will be really helpful.
@@pri5808 It's been fun and it's helping! Mostly I enjoy it because it's almost only vocabulary that is likely to be relevant to me since it pertains to daily life.
Thank you so much for sharing a interesting video !!!
Sounds great!
Yo dude, I have a suggestion, what if the app you are making has a info for every language on which lesson to start learning if you have been using another app. For example "if you are on lesson 69 of pimsleur, you should start here on lesson 420". Also, what if the app has English for people who speak other languages, for example "English for Japanese speakers. That's all, get better soon.
Hey Sweet Durt, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
@@ItsameAlex idk can he?
@@ItsameAlex y u asking me?
@@user-xt6qd3cf6v I also wonder. I want to know what editing software he uses, and also what other secrets he discovered on the way to becoming a youtuber.
@@ItsameAlex I donât think anyone knows that but I Ikinna maybe ask him
wow can't wait to watch this
Saludos desde cuaba ikenna muy Ăştil tus vĂdeos como siempre đ me encanta tu contenido
definitely would try out your app :)
It's simple.
Spanish or vanish.
I speak German and English and recently started learning Japanese. My goal is to use Duolingo (due to financial difficulties) until I can hopefully start to understand Japanese media, such as podcasts, streams, videos and so on to improve my skills even further, which is somewhat similar to what I've done with learning English. Basics via school, rest through games and videos. I'll see how it'll work out eventually.
I've been learning Japanese for 1,5 years now. I study everyday on my free time. You don't really need too much money. I don't recommend you to use Duolingo. Learn your hiragana and katakana. Get a beginner grammar book like Minna no nihongo. Listen to free podcast everyday like "nihongo con teppei" and read asap on NHK web easy for example. I work my Japanese everyday 1 or 2 hours a day ( I wake up early for that) and it's pretty efficient.
Now I take conversation courses every week on Italki. It's not expensive and really efficient!
@@TheIronyste Thank you for your tips! As of right now, I know basically no Japanese words and only some Hiragana and Katakana characters, still getting them mixed up from time to time. I'm using Duolingo to learn the characters, but once I memorized them I will switch to more efficient ways of learning, most likely do what you mentioned above.
@@puntherline I mentioned Minna no nihongo. I finished the first book (and did ALL the exercises on my (paper) notebook. I'm not saying this book is the best but it does what I wanted it to do : learn basic grammar and give me the material to start my journey in the Japanese language.
I also worked Kanji and Vocabulary with Wanikani. It's not free but it's a pretty efficient system (but could be really time-consuming... I had to reduce the pace of my reviews), you can also use Anki decks to learn your Kanji, I'm sure you can find "wanikani-ish" decks with mnemotechnics.
Now I know over .200 kanjis and more than 500 vocab thanks to wanikani (mostly), I'm starting to learn how to write them. I love it!
Last thing, I would recommend you to read ASAP, try easy websites like watanoc (pronounce watanoshii) or NHK web easy. You can find really beginner materials, mostly on Watanoc).
And I listened to the 500+ Nihongo Con Teppei podcasts. I think they are perfect for beginners, and they are becoming harder little by little. (but I'm sure you can find other beginner podcasts).
I think working every day (even 15 min or 2h) but every day is the best you can do to learn! Good luck
I mainly use Duo only to add new words to my list and cause itâs all I can fit within my day. The streak also encourages me to keep doing it. Iâm definitely open to a substitute to Duo tho
Or an app to use in addition to Duo
I'm more excited for this app than I've been for a videogame in years
If people want dry language learning go back to when, I was in high school before all these Apps were avaliable. You would have to go into a bookstore and buy a "Living Language Set." All you had was books and CD's. But did yet work? As long, as you stuck with it yes. But was it dry and hard to stay motivated? Oh, absolutely!
Just wondering what languages will be included in your upcoming app? I'm so excited for it!!
yes, damn, how f* often can that boy eat bread and drink a glass of milk on Duo! My god
And all these apps stop at intermediate tops. I finally want an app that actually goes to advanced
Bussu takes you to upper intermediate and stuff đĽ°â¤
Care on reviewing LingQ?, would be greatđđť
I use anki and add anime transcribe flashcards(per episode1) with audio and after I finish the whole deck(episode), I will rewatch the anime and smile because I have memorized and understood almost all the words used.
Add a tiktok/reels like feature videos are in the learning language about the language.
Promotes users to make content about their language or use/journey of the learning language.
Hey Azriel, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
No, that would ruin the app
Ikenna does more videos than there a good language learning apps
and now youre telling me hes doing a language learning app himself`?? wild go ikenna
Hey F34R_4N4, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
@@ItsameAlex Hey uh bet but i cant Influence that im sorry
I am really excited for this app! I had the idea myself when I realised that Duolingo just isn't fun anymore after a few weeks. I am far away from developing my own video game, but I`ll gladly use yours to learn new languages. What languages are you planning to include? Can we make suggestions?
Will your app only focus on popular languages or will it feature smaller languages. Like Esperanto for example?
Come on Man tell us when will the app be ready ? We waited a lot đđ
For me it's never about the quality of the resources/app I'm using, it's how I feel about it at the time. Although I do like a good visual representation of my progress and what's next
I just wanted to ask if you are planning to learn new language in the near future 'cause I am from Poland and I would like to see you try to speak Polish, I would really enjoy itđ¤â¤
Ikenna what languages will your app offer?? Looking fwd to it already!!
i was wondering what languages will be featured in ikenna's app? â¨i'm pretty excited about it ^^
also ur eyes are really pretty đ no homo, bro. unless-
I hope Norwegian đâ¤
Ey good timing I've been needing some help with language learning.
Hey Bruce Moreno, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
I dont have a problem with the âproperâ spanish but i need an app that teaches me in the way that they actually speak to each other. Because i can communicate with spanish speakers fine up until they start talking to me like a friend and then i become confused
Try reading some graded readers by Paco Ardit and listen to podcast like No Hay Tos and How to Spanish. They helped me a lot.
@@loth664 thank you
Opa LOL I loved your pronouncation
HEY IKENNA ! I'm 16 years old...I love languages...I am Learning English.I always INVEST Many times for just watching youtube...And I have no time for learning at school.Is that the right way to become good at any foreign language?
Rosetta Stone, is probably one, I should have not have bought. It feels like, so late 90's and early 2000's the technology. I have a lifetime subscription but it's just kind of blahhh!
I have a question. Do you ever start learning a language with learning the alphabet for that language first?
I'm very anti language app, but I'm really looking forward to seeing how yours is
You only get good at the langeage beacose of the socialing experince with other persons that are native to the langeage
my favorite language learning apps: CZcams, Lingq, Netflix and Kindle đ good content is the motivation. when it's a low motivation day I just watch Netflix 𤣠it's still immersion.
I found this app called FALOU and I think that was pretty good for and I already had an b1 lvl
Will Ikenna course members get early access?
Where is that clip at 4:57 from? I'm curious about it but cant find it
I just came here to ask if you have Nigerian roots. Cause Ikenna is a well spelt Igbo (Eastern Nigerian) name. Thanks for the tips too. đ
Salut ! ( Ăa fait bizarre d'ĂŠcrire un commentaire en français sur une vidĂŠo anglaise ) Si tu as besoin d'audios de natifs pour ton application, je pourrais en enregistrer si ça peut aider. VoilĂ bonne journĂŠe.
LOL, I'm fluent in English, but I've never heard of "Double Cheeked Up." Now I know it means boredom. With me, what I do is play a movie that I know in the language I'm learning in the background, while I do Anki or someother app/book. I play the movie because I get bored with just apps or books, so I need something in the background. Granted, it takes longer to study, but I do finish my studies!
Do you know were i can learn french creole (Martinique)
Nice idea making a game to teach language, will the app support Vietnamese?
So when you say it'll be released in a few months, you mean it will ve on Kickstarter then? Not actually out out?...
Will the app teach about culture
really hoping you guys kill it with the new app! the language learning game could changer forever :)
What do you think about "Lingvist" and "Falou"?. Greetings from Argentina đŚđˇ
In your opinion is rocket language a good app for learning a language
how many languages will the app have at launch?
The only apps that i can use are LingQ and innovative language 101, i highly recommend them
Release date?
Then what app do we use to get this
A q nivel hablas cada idioma? Cuales son tus cinco idiomas para aprender durante 2022 y 2023?
Yo llevo muchisimo tiempo intentando aprender uno y me esta costando mucho. Tambien estoy en la uni y tengo el examen MIR este 2022.
Saludos desde Australia. đâ¤
Hey ayren bethancourt, can Ikenna make a video on how he got started on youtube and how he became good at editing?
Nivel nativo *Italiano*
Nivel avanzado *InglĂŠs* / *Siciliano*
Nivel intermedio *Frances* / *EspaĂąol*
Nivel principiante *Esperanto* / *Alemano*
Quiero aprender mas Esperanto y Frances y EspaĂąol y AlemĂĄn
@@ItsameAlex I'm sure he can. Hope he reads you and he'll do it. đ
@@fanaticofmetal compartimos casi las mismas lenguas. Mi madre es italiano-espagnola, pero de Milano. Q bella Sicilia! đĽ°
@@ayrenbethancourt9379 Thank you!
Duolingo is a tool to get started with a language with learning a few words sentences structures you have to start watching movies and videos on the target language maybe even translate words that you don't understand don't learn the translation just get an idea what the word means. Word by word you will learn the whole language and when you remembered a word "pet your shoulders" xD That OH YESS i know this word wow so cool. Next time it will be easier to remember.
I like duolingo, I learn spanish, norwegian and Japanese with it. (+ other sources) 874 day streak on 20 Feb 2022
Hey Ikenna, can you make a video on how you got started on youtube and how you became good at editing?