South Africa's Former President Sends SHOCKWAVES - Big SECRETS Revealed
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Father Thabo Mbeki your African grandchildren are turned in.Thank for protecting Africa,❤
what you people of color dont understand and you keep showing it live the resorces the world Needs to thrive its sad youall dont get it UNITED and thriving from what you all Have is the only way or nation are planing A tomarrow off of the stupidity of people of Color you may aswell take down the flages the Hour of the judgment is Now and the devillllll is looking at YOU ALL for A way OUT of A old world of messssssss thay Have maid for them selvesss
This clown is Kagames best friend, his talking rubbish, Nobody in Congo is being mistreated, Those Rwanda's are not Congolese and will never be Congolese, We are Bantus their not, they come to our Country as refugees and now they want to claim their Congolese and tomorrow try stealing our land, This Devil of OLD MAN, is working on behalf of the west and Kagame, M23 are a western funded Terrorist Group, this is why Congo government refuses to Negotiate with them, This Guy has invested in the Eastern of Congo when he was President of South Africa, his one of the West Agents, he thinks his Clever, why don't he speak about the Atrocities committed by Rwandais Army against innocent Congolese Women and Children?
There is definitely someone or something that don’t want the masses to know about this. The moment I got onto this, my devices started slowing down for some reason.
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
I'm from kenya! I'm 18yrs old and i want to be a pan African so that we can fight this war to the end
@ GeorgeWise-vy3gp pan Africans died long ago anything left is false prophets who are what I call missionaries of the western gangsters who still rule africa to this day
join us brother we need you🫵🏾
18 years old I love you youngin, Africa will rise because of your mindset …..love love your comment 😊 you’re the light at the end of a tunnel
@@THE.PAN.AFRICAN.PARTY. I really want to join too
I can join you to@@THE.PAN.AFRICAN.PARTY.
Thank you Mr. President
I would like to address this as a Congolese Patriot Citizen.
Long story short. The government of Mobutu naturalized the tutsi has Zaireans after a conflict that broke Rwanda in 1959 where the Hutus were killing the minority of Tutsis. So we admit that the Tutsis are Congoleses by election. If we made them Congolese why are they gonna be special people more than other ethnic groups? We have more than 400 ethnic groups. Les banyamulenges has to sit down and contribute to the development of the Congo. Now the problem start and the whole world knows. The banyamulenges were strongly connected to their brothers and sisters in Rwanda, the rwandan Tutsis. There has been many reports of UN and other allies that prove the betrayal of the banyamulenges against the Congolese people, these people they’re in complice with rwandan government. That’s why the Congolese people had to rise to denounce this act of betrayal. Then they are saying the government are not protecting them? That nonsense Mr. President. We recognized that this problem is Congolese conflict so why Kagame has to involve? This has nothing to do with him, Mr. President do you ask Kagame what he is doing in Congo except to steal minerals and send them to America, we know the history of Rwanda they never had any minerals in their soil except the agricultural sector that they have been doing. Mr. President how can a such country become a 1st county in Africa to export minerals abroad? Tell me Mr. President!
Recently the EU signed a deal with Rwanda to export the minerals, where are they supposed to get those minerals if they are not coming from the east of Congo. The blood 🩸 minerals, after killing our children our mothers and fathers. That’s an insult.
BUT THE REVOLUTIONARIES ARE RISING UP. CONGO WILL NEVER FALL INTO ENEMIES HANDS. CONGO IS PAYING THE PRICE FOR THE REVOLUTION AND THIS WILL HAPPEN SOON.
INGETA INGETA
WAZALENDO OYEEE
You completely right and we also know this history.
Support from Angola
WAZALENDO OYYYEEEEEEEE OLOBI BIEN PAPA
Amongst tribes of the DrC there is no banyarwanda or banyamulenge. Mbeki you must retire you are made
Big up . Mr Mbeki is one of those orchestrated the mayhem that is in Congo by drafting one of the corrupt constitutions in the world whereby a foreigner could take presidency in a sovereign state as DRC during the so called peace talk in Sun city South Africa. I don't trust him.
@@sergioozar9696betrayers
Very good speech with valid points. As Africans, we should try to resolve some of these issues ourselves. I wonder why we are so involved in the Gaza conflict when we also have issues in Sudan and the Eastern Congo. South Africa has been leading in taking Israel to the ICJ. Let's focus on our problems first, then address others. I hope this speech reaches many Africans.
Human rights are a very important matter to address wherever human rights violations are being committed. I have a lot of respect for South African leaders for taking those position on the blight of the Palestinians. More countries should be more concerned about Israel using food as a weapon to starve the Palestinians.
Are you living in a village to not know the Jew-elite Oppenheimer Group that provides the world with blood diamonds and conflict minerals are the founding partners of the UK Tories investments Anglo American Group, who owned and control the South African Rand (ZAR) with the SARB which controls all African central banks with their currencies tied to the ZAR currency. It's no big secret Anglo American Group qualifies for IMF insurance bailouts if African countries have unrest that lead to civil war. Those EDUCATED South African lawyers want to destroy the Jew-elite Oppenheimer Group because South Africa is under hostage with trillions of national debts to the World Bank that funds the U.S. and NATO military weapons investments.
Thabo Mbeki has UK citizenship just like all African leaders who are puppets with their banks filled in London.
Africa United is Power
Africans will never unite because of the western involvement to this day. They use black intellectuals to spread lies to this day
United Africa sounds like united Asia. It is arrogant and borderline racist to say that whoever is black are all the same. That is simply not true. Only frustrated diaspora think like this.
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo in 1809. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
.ehh...my view too....ppl like mbeki are holding black ppl backwards.....
@@qrankmw. so vote for the african populist trump with easy messages but an even greater ‘impact’. You may feel good because he says what you feel, nobody cares that he rounds up people at night
Colonialism has played harvoc with Africa.
Not only in Africa but now in Palestine!
They perfected the metamorphosis.of the iron chains to the mental chains to maintain their access to Africa's natural resources.
mental chains can, must and will be broken...
Remember ISLAM subsaharan slave trade ❗
MIR Kenen BREKHEN 🤢❗❗
🇺🇸🇮🇱AM YISROEL CHAI ♾️❤
@@user-qq4rf7ez3tI remember 🇮🇱 funding the trans Atlantic slave trade. We have done extensive research on the matter. We also know that y’all are trying to delete every black person earth.
Thank u for coming up broadly and talk the truth before the world
That not the truth... This pipo came to kill... Because Congolese don't know English
That's not true,he has some true points but me I am rwandese and fled to Congo in 1994...stop lying children
@@GilbertMulumbaLavoisieraren't Banyamurenge Congolese?
@@GilbertMulumbaLavoisieraren't Banyamurenge Congolese?
@@isaiedushimimana6628 yes they are
I attended this lecture. It was an afternoon well spent ❤
I am Congolese from the east live in South Africa as Refugee, any Rwandan born in the eastern of Congo in my view He or she are 100% Congolese. I even go with dem same school
First time am hearing a Congolese speak truth
your view is not law... so maybe you still think as a villager. Go back to school yourself. birth right to foreigner depends on the laws of the country ,,,not on what you think. maybe you are an m23
@@Aaska2.0 shame on you why us Congolese live outside Congo when we have kids in south Africa we wants our kids to be south Africans citizens 😀 shame on you go back home and learn human rights laws
@@bang8534 as Congolese we dnt knw what is the meaning of human rights. Imagine live in South Africa as Refugee and we still fighting for our kids to be south Africans citizens 😀 but we dnt want Rwandans born in Congo to be Congolese😭 shame on Us
@@kyemoamina2011 I really think Congolese would adopt your attitude. As Malema says, we are Africans first and foremost. Why are we unable to comprehend that artificial borders drawn in Berlin cut communities into different countries? It's a fact that the Congo Rwanda border left rwandese in Congo much as others came later as refugees. So, how can you wake up one day and tell rwandese who were in Congo before the stupid Berlin conference are not Congolese? You have to be stupid, simply. If Congo continues on this stupid path, it will be broken up because banyamulenge are going no where. I am not Congolese personally, nor am I rwandese. Am ugandan from the batoro tribe but some of my people are in Congo. One of our great Kings in Uganda, Kabalega, had a mother from Bulega in present day DRC. So you can see, these borders are bogus.
Respect for African leaders who expose the truth.
He is sick, I am from Congo and i am from kivu but he lier, we do not have the rwandese in congo or banyamulenge. We have Hema. He talks the things kagame gives him. He stupide
It's not the truth truth though
@@graciapombo3746 It is the truth though you're just lost like most brainwashed Africans and it's sad 😢
An excellent speaker and wise leader in African affairs to follow
Be blessed Sir, I wish you can take South Africa Again and make it a great country again. Stay healthy.❤️🌍
Africa united is powerful ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo in 1809. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
About the Congo, Mr Mbeki is misleading the public. All honest people who would like to know the truth about the war in the eastern Congo should refer to Charle Onana's book: " Holocauste au Congo : L'Omerta de la communauté internationale » aux éditions L’artilleur. (Written in French). The book is a scientific effort, with strong evidences from reliable sources across USA, Europe and Africa.
Thank you Mr. President for saying it like it is!
Saying what
He has no clue....has been blinded by looters of Congo's natural resources and is twisting the facts...
Very sad...they are many banyamulenge who are denouncing the narative he is setting...saying thar Rwanda was never invited to resolve their problem in Congo....and what about other kinyarwanda speaking tribes who are not banyamulenge?
Does Mbeki want us to believe that every one if the 450 tribes that feels abandoned by the government in Kinshasa must pick up arms and fight to have the government reassure them that they are Congolese?
Saying the truth
Teaching the world about the true genesis of the Congo conflict! Colonialism and partition of Africa as a whole primarily and then the aftermath of the 1994 genocide against the Tutsi ethnicity.
@@user-cb8fd1hy9r what's your take on the matter?
It’s eye opening to what I have just heard. And think it’s time Africa try to resolve some of the political problems we have
💯 Absolutely 🇬🇧 💯
How many times have we negotiated with the armed group since 1998? Always the same ethnicity. It's been more than 5 times now, and they always play the same game. They always want the key positions, but don't other peoples have rights too? Why only them? Why not the Hutus who are also in Congo? We've already tried negotiations several times, all for gaining control of the entire territory. Take the example of the Rwandan general and the Rwandan intelligence director who were among the rebels of RCD Goma and fought. They were Congolese, so why did they return to Rwanda as heroes? Even Mr. Mbeki sent his soldiers to defend Congo. We all know it's a plot brewing against the DRC. We live with many neighboring tribes, but we don't have problems. Know that we have 9 neighboring countries. My own parents are Angolan, but I was born in Congo and I feel good here. Stop lying, you are a great man respected worldwide. Don't get caught up in this game."
@@Santementale1Mbeki is a BAD mediator I know this coz m Zimbabwean...the ANC is a snake never to be trusted...good eye my guy...these AU and SADC ppl are selfish bustards
It's not an eye opener this guy has twisted the truth, one piece of lie makes everything a big lie. I m very disappointed for someone respectable to be used to lie for the benefit of the killer
@@user-lg7bu6tg6w WHAT HE IS SAYING IS THE TOTAL TRUTH!YALL JUST DONT LIKE ACCEPTING IT BUT ONE DAY YOU WILL...
I am elated to hear a respected African leader, Thabo Mbeki talk candidly about the conflict between Rwanda and DRC and also the embarrassing revelations of the founding fathers of independent francophone Africa having signed away the people's birthright to France‼️
It's time the AU showed leadership to tackle African problems instead of waiting to be summoned by our former colonizers to discuss problems they created.
ALL AFRICAN NATIONS MUST SERIOUSLY CONSIDER REPARTITION AS A SOLUTION TO ETHNIC CRISES. ESPECIALLY IN CASES WHERE ONE ETHNICITY LIVES ACROSS TWO NATIONS AND TENSION ARISE OFTEN.
One thing about Congolese and Rwanda is between those two leaders remaining... But no truth here... U can't be fighting pipo who are stilling then say Oooh Congolese refused to accept Rwandise... Layer layer layer now we know English!!! Stop laying pipo
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo in 1809. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
@@miyekiluifu367 tell them... This pipo think Congolese don't know English now... That how they confused Uganda and Burundi... Congo they have fail and they will never succeed
@@miyekiluifu367 True brother... Stupidity, they killed Abyariman and provoked jenocide... Now the same heart still driving them...
Ever my favorite South African president
He was the best since 1994 ✊🙏
He was admired by most South Africans
@@onfireforgod502Best South African president, Period
@@viwembande9497 😇💯🔥
@onfireforgod502 he was admired by the Xhosa people because they thought he is one of them. But his tribe was assimilated into the Xhosa just like many evil done by the westerners
HOW CAN YOU FIND HIM YOUR FAVORITE SA PRESIDENT? WHILE HE WAS ASKED TO RESIGN FROM THE SOUTH AFRICAN PRESIDENCY BECAUSE AN ALLEGATION BY A HIGH COURT JUDGE ON POLITICAL INTERFERENCE IN ZUMA'S PROSECUTION ABOUT CORRUPTION CHARGES (SEPTEMBER 20, 2008), THIS RESULTS IN PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI TO AGREE FOR HIS RESIGNATION. WHAT ABOUT PRESIDENT MANDELA?
I enjoyed that lecture by Elder Thabo Mbeki. VIVA Afrika ✊✊✊👏
Look for the work of Nyerere and you will see Mbeki is lying
This lecture it a a shame to African history this guy was paid to speak lies as the truth. It's bcz of him congo and Africa still behind
@@user-lg7bu6tg6w YES, I BELIEVE THAT HE WAS PAID TO SPREAD THIS PROPAGANDA.
@@user-lg7bu6tg6w Respect former President Mbeki!
Regarding the issue of Congo is a false propaganda
A greet meeting which brought to light alot of issues that many African countries are facing with currently.
Support from Angola
For your information thabo mbeki we have banyamulenge in the current government
That's true. And Many Congolese high profile are married to tutsi women.
Support from Angola
Obviously he knows
Tabo Mbeki is completely out of touch.
The is the best way forward. Thank you . okello N'Jaramba nairObi Kenya.
Let's appreciate President Thabo Mbeki (RtD) while lives on. The depth of knowledge he retains makes him a rare repository of wisdom. His talks on Africa and more on the Great Lakes region, especially Eastern Congo DR, are insightful.
Nonsense he knows nothing. He is clearly out of his depth
Appreciate the men who failed to liberate black South Africans when he had all the powers. This is one of the evil men and if not watched africa will burn and he will enslave all of us
Please this guy was paid to speak , all that is a lie. If you read congolese history nothing of what he said is true. His administration was the cause of what we are seeing in congo. He ate the money from the mining now turning to the enemy
Well done Benki for the lecture. You really nailed it so well
It is very good very educational and informative.I would personally like to see many young people participating.
Those in danger are not the Rwandan part of the population but the Congolese ( 12 millions on Congolese have been slaughtered by Rwandan group and ADF of Uganda)
And why hasn’t Kinshasa done anything for almost 30 years?
@@EA-dweller because America and the other criminals are fighting the kongolese gouvernment
With all due respect, President Mbeki should stop the nonsense. The RCD rebels was a creation of Rwanda, who doesn't know that. This all started with the FDL of Laurent Desire Kabila (created by Rwanda and Uganda, video evidence of both Museveni and Kagame talking about how they recruited Kabila still exists). In what human history have you seen a military chief of staff serve 2 different countries. First James Kabarebe was imposed in DRC then was nominated in the same job in Rwanda when RDC government of Laurent Desire Kabila thanked them and asked them to go home. Where in the world you've seen a general (Laurent Nkunda), leader of the so called Congolese-Tutsis led group of CNDP, which was the new name of RCD, go back to Rwanda saying his mission in DRC is finished and he's back home ? Where in the world you've seen a new leader of the so called Congolese-Tutsis of the new M23, which in its turn is the new name of the CNDP, Mr. Bosco Tangada, once arrested and transfered to the International Penal Court, denies in front of judges and cameras of the whole world being Congolese and claimed his Rwandan citizenship ?! Where in the world you've seen a so called group of Terrorists Kagame cries about (the FDLR) spend more time killing the Congolese and has never attacked Rwanda in 30 years, but yet Kagame says they are the ones in trouble. How for god sake a country like Rwanda becomes the first export country of minerals they don't even have on their soil (and this is scientifically proven falks) ?! So, let stop playing dumb with a country that has already lost more than 15 million people in the name of international greed. You cannot expect Congolese to accept a situation where everyone agrees to close their eyes on the loss of lives, and yet they want us to be part of the great African union. We Africans have to stick together, sure, but first we need to stop killing each other in the name of western greed. Let speak the truth, ALL the truth Mr. Mbeki. You don't have an impartial view of this. And this is what worrisome.
Thank you. Mbeki is misleading people.
@@didierzola8790 I am surprised how someone like Mbeki can be this stupid!
I do hope this bold leader and his influence on Africa matters,as a true leader must be herd simply because he know what Africa needs ,
This us not a bold leader...he has no clue what is going on....far from objective reality....needs to do research to understand that natural resources are the cause of the conflict not banyamulengem...by the banyamulenge openly denounce Rwandan invasion of Congo...
This old bitter men failed to free his people and now he is spreading lies across Africa
Love it so much !
What a good topic and the truth. Africans if we want to take a steps hon Nbeki spit it out salute sir
He uttered heresies
Nonsense
Africa unite for the betterment of your offsprings ✊ ✊
......for the betterment of ALL people .🇿🇦👌
He is dividing. He mentions the divide wrote in government which was chosen by western countries. Then dividing tribes by trying to say this section did this. This is complete crap.
How can we unite while people like kagame wants to kill others
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He does not his own children
Very true we need unity
Yes, we need unity but everybody needs to go back to their country and stop trying to divide Congo and say Congo is a part of Rhonda. Yes, Congolese open the border for the RONDAS who were fleeing from the genocide that was happening in Kali Rhonda we brought them to our countries and now they’re causing a genocide in our country and you’re stating that we should give them a part of our land. What is wrong with you people why don’t you guys give them a part of your land why do they want the part of the land that has the most resources why, again it’s all about the resource Kagame… this has nothing to do with Congolese, not accepting the Rhonda Congolese people living in Congo that has nothing to do with it because we’ve been living there forever, and the Congolese never had a problem with it. It’s the fact that the M Ventis are fighting the war for Kagame in order for them to come and cause chaos displacement so they can continue stealing the resources for free and continue to leave the country in discombobulation meaning the country will never succeed in establishment. This is what the western societies want and this is what your so-called president that speaking right now is agreeing with this is not unity. This is colonization once again in a different form come on Black people wake up.
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo in 1809. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
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That's true I'm a Congolese But refugee from mulenge I'm the one Munyamulenge we need peace and jugement for This issue
I didn’t want to say this but you left me no choice FUCK YOU. This old man is telling lies after lies are you listening or not? Full of shit
Anyway I’m way more Congolese than, so again: FUCK YOU Brother
These are very educative lectures on the politics of post colonial Africa Please increase their frequency for our benefit
Mbeki is lying about these banyamulenges. The so called banyamulenge is the fabrication of the globalists. They created it in 1996. Before that time there didn’t exist any ethnic group in rdc called banyamulenge.
Mbeki has is a puppet of the globalists: Shame on this former president.
This sound like film script written and given to Mr Mbeki to Read, from AFDL of Laurent Kabila to M23 today, they are Rwanda sponsored movements, Tshisekedi has said it officially that DRC recognises the Congolese Tutsis, as DRC citizens, they are in Parliament, army etc... There Tutsis who came as refugees from Rwanda are they Congolese also or Rwandese? How about the Rwandese Hutus who also came at the same time with the Tutsis? It is like saying all Batswanas are south Africans, since we have Batswanas in SA we can Go to Botswana and give citizenship to every Motswana . Mr Benkhi is being used by the pro Rwanda forces in the west, who are at all cost want the DRC to be divided into small states. Those M23 rebels majority of them were in the DRC army how did they find themselves in the army if they were not recognised Congolese and why did they go away? With these partisans, sponsored Lectures, this war is still with us. There are Tutsis in Rwanda, there are Tutsis in Congo, Let Kagame mind is own business with the Rwandans Tutsis and the Congolese Tutsis deal with their own.
It is the script and I believe that Mbeki must have business interest in Rwandaf with those crimes committing in Congo as he is just talking about what he does not know the true and working against Congo.
😂😂this Guy called Mbeki he doesn't know anything about Dr Congo, he doesn't know some Congolese language on border of Rwanda have some similarities with Kinyarwanda.
Without forgetting a guy like this he made by Western to feed lie among Africans they attend the same illumination Rituel with Kagame who caused genocide in Rwanda and Congo, that's why he defends M23 terrorists narrative and Kagame.
This guy can never give credit to Colonel Traoré who does great thing in Burkina Faso, But he's there to push British agenda empire, that why he got invited by Kagame who's a dictector praised why west because rwandan army are over Africa (Mozambique , Central African, Congo(m23)) protecting West interest.
Someone is talking sense here
Saying that Congolese Tutsi are Congolese that don’t give them protection,
Col kaminzobe was killed in baraka town by civilians burned and ate him while his collègues were present with Him and didn’t do anything to protect just because they think He was a rwandese.
The world see us as African and that's what we should proud to be mama Africa children,one Africa, one people one unity one love that's equal to one strong African nation protecting Africa from the out side world.
The western world is very well aware that if Africa is industrialized it will be the new world economic power hence they will do what ever they can to suppress development even if they have to rob our interlects
If you look at who we need protection from is fellow blacks in Africa, there is more war and destruction within Africa by blacks killing blacks and we want to blame the rest of the world for civilising Africa, imagine how things would have been if we where not as civilised as we are
Mbeki he is a liar and no one should listen to this old bitter me
What is African, because there is a lot of different races that are from Africa
@@DumaM-ir7rk
Why do you say he's a liar?
Africa needs people like Mbeki who are able to articulate issues clearly in a simple way we can understand.
Let's encourage independent thinking...this way African solutions by Africans is possible
😅😅😅😅 the story is twisted my brother...
Let me give you and example: I'm being hunted by killers and I come to seek for refuge in your house me and my kids then you take me in and you give me one room to live with my kids you feeding me and you gimme us access to use the groceries in the house eat and enjoy.
After living in your house for years now you dead and my kids now start stealing and selling the groceries to the neighbours now neighbours support my kids and give them guns to fight your kids claiming that room it's for them and they want to kick your kids out of the house or cut and separate that room so they can take it as their own includingthe groceries kept inside... would your kids let that room go ????
Now since I was corrupt and i was selling your groceries to the whole neighbours and favoring them now that put me and my kids in a very strong position because I have the whole neighbours supporting us because they know if I succeed to steal and cut the house by two the neighbours will become more powerful because they will have unlimited groceries from that room.
Now your kids are crying because my kids are killing whoever come in that room or whoever use the groceries... practically now my kids toon over the entire house.
So tell me something what would your kids do ? Leave that house ? Because it's their house but now they visitors are killing them and the whole neighbours are not saying anything.
Then suddenly people from far neighbouring like Russia/china heard the news then they decided to rescue your kids to take over the house and kick my kids outside... now my friendly neighbours are not happy and they also raised and created cold War......
The story it long
Hope you understand the summary
Thanks for this .
Thank you Mbeki. This is exactly what Mwalimu Julius Nyerere said around 30 years ago at the UN in response to killings and marginalisation of Congolese Rwandophones. This issue about these people has for so long been ignored, that is why you keep seeing these uprising. Adress the grievances of these people first otherwise military interventions are just a bandaid 🩹 solution.
There is nothing called a Congolese Rwandophone. This is misleading. It gives the impression that those who speak Kinyarwanda come exclusively from modern day Rwanda.
The Hutu and Tutsi people, who speak Kinyarwanda and Kirundi, are scattered across the Great Lakes region. They are found in Rwanda, Burundi, DRC and as far afield as Uganda.
Now, those Hutu and Tutsi outside Rwanda are the legal subjects of the governments of the countries where they reside. Therefore, Kagame has no recognizable mandate to purport to "protect them" or police how they are treated in those other countries.
Kagame must cease and desist from his invasion of the Eastern Congo😢
We need to be careful when addressing the conflict in DRC. We need to involve the Kivu natives themselves who know the history of their province and also hear different versions. Apparently the international community as well as Mr Mbeki are only supporting what Rwandophones are sharing. It’s dangerous. This problem is not simple.
@@tmafungo84people who speak kinyarwanda are rwandophone, and that includes Banyamulenge of eastern drc. So yes, there are Congolese rwandophone. That being said, I think it’s the responsibility of all decent humans to prevent acts of genocide from being carried out on any ethnic minority groups. It’s not just Paul Kagame’s responsibility. It’s your responsibility and mine too. Unless you’re in support of exterminating a people because of their ethnicity, which is what Congolese govts, past and present, are doing by arming groups like the mai mai and codeco to exterminate banyamulenge populations
This clown is Kagames best friend, his talking rubbish, Nobody in Congo is being mistreated, Those Rwanda's are not Congolese and will never be Congolese, We are Bantus their not, they come to our Country as refugees and now they want to claim their Congolese and tomorrow try stealing our land, This Devil of OLD MAN, is working on behalf of the west and Kagame, M23 are a western funded Terrorist Group, this is why Congo government refuses to Negotiate with them, This Guy has invested in the Eastern of Congo when he was President of South Africa, his one of the West Agents, he thinks his Clever, why don't he speak about the Atrocities committed by Rwandais Army against innocent Congolese Women and Children?
@@martinkonde8534 I hear you but it’s not as if these people can’t/ have not been speaking out. For one they can’t openly speak out in Congo because they will be viewed as M23 supporters or traitors. There was actually many Congolese Tutsis in government, for example Azarias Ruberwa who was once vice president of Congo in 2003 but even him could not speak out openly for his people because he feared for his life.
If we @Africans don't unite, @Africa is dead 😢
True….. well said….🙏
Let's come unite in your country
All failed states aka💩🕳️ HOLE ❗
KAPUT ❗
What do you mean, AFRICA IS DEAD since ever ❗
United with South America China and Russia Arabs against Colonalism
One of my favorite! Live long Mbeki ❤❤❤! Love from a Kenyan living in diaspora
Glad to see Thabo Mbeki digging deeper into the situations going on in West Africa and Congo and helping people understand. Him speaking on such issues with understanding forces his peers to listen even if they don't want to.
Thank you father Mbeki for your wise counsel. It is unfortunate that leaders in some Francophone countries are comfortable with neocolonialism.
Save a few ALL African leaders are Western/Imperialist's puppet
He is lying to people what he said is not the truth of congolese history he is a bias whom through his administration put us into this mess today. Read the congolese history he has no idea of what he is talking. No negotiation at this time with the Rwandese. If the M23 is a congolese problem why is Kagame representing them?
No ears will love to hear that brave message, but it is a necked truth.
This clown is Kagames best friend, his talking rubbish, Nobody in Congo is being mistreated, Those Rwanda's are not Congolese and will never be Congolese, We are Bantus their not, they come to our Country as refugees and now they want to claim their Congolese and tomorrow try stealing our land, This Devil of OLD MAN, is working on behalf of the west and Kagame, M23 are a western funded Terrorist Group, this is why Congo government refuses to Negotiate with them, This Guy has invested in the Eastern of Congo when he was President of South Africa, his one of the West Agents, he thinks his Clever, why don't he speak about the Atrocities committed by Rwandais Army against innocent Congolese Women and Children?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 there no true here all this is kagame lobing by payingnto this kind of correpted man as kagame himself to pay him blood money to bring lies today. When he was in UN why he never said it?? Shame on you. Soon you will face the same law. Nothing will mever remain the same
He Is wise
Absolutely. Problem with Africans is we never want to debate facts. We just want to hear what we want to hear/ believe.
@@patrickbig1960I know that people like you don't want or like true, do you think that this old and wise man lies? Don't support your weakness and ideology of genocide and the ones you collaborate with
Thanks for your excellent reply. The west has become a blight on humanity’s peaceful existence. Peace.🙏
Impressive, Mr. President . You are a monument, a blessing for Africans and Africa as a whole.
Very confusing speech as M. Mbeki said that "the Rwandan in East Congo are Congolese". My question is : how can they be both Rwandan and Congolese ?
Good question
As good as saying shangan are Mozambican and southafrican at the same time
hhh
Congolese who speak Kinyarwanda found themselves out of Rwandan border due to European artificial borders therefore become the citizens of Congo by default same as Masai are originated in Tanzania but some went to Kenya due to borders then become Kenyans. In addition, They are also Kinyarwanda speaking Ugandans who are accepted by Uganda as Ugandans . why those Rwandaphones in Uganda originating in Rwanda did not return to Rwanda same as President Kagame and his men/Women ? The answer is simple, it is because they are on their motherland and not refugees there. DRC people and leaders must recognize and accept that Banyamulenge are at their motherland and they will never be considered as Rwandese unless you chase them with their mother land . Period !!
Easy answer. Basotho (ethnic group) are found in both Lesotho and South Africa. Those in South Africa are South Africans(nationality) and those in Lesotho are Basotho (nationality). This is the same for all the ethnic groups that SA shares with neighbouring countries eg. Batswana, Xhosa, Ndebele, Tsonga/shangaan etc.
Congo is mistreating the ethnic Rwandan people of Congo nationality. This is called tribalism. Now Rwanda is responding with supporting rebel groups to protect ethnic Rwandans that live in Congo and are of Congo nationality. But as the former president said, the Congolese government does not have full control of the entire country so a lot of bad things are happening and they are not stopping it. He is not picking a side between Rwanda and Congo, but simply explaining the cause of the conflict.
@@umuragerwanda3619 PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI IS NOT HONEST ABOUT HIS POSITION ON ISSUE BETWEEN DRC AND RWANDA. I BELIEVE THAT THABO MBEKI HAS BEEN CORRUPTED OR PAID TO ADVANCE KAGAME'S NARRATIVE OR PROPAGANDA.
HOW CAN YOU BELEIVE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT BANYRWANDA LIVING IN CONGO? WHILE HE WAS ASKED TO RESIGN FROM THE SOUTH AFRICAN PRESIDENCY BECAUSE AN ALLEGATION BY A HIGH COURT JUDGE ON POLITICAL INTERFERENCE IN ZUMA'S PROSECUTION ABOUT CORRUPTION CHARGES (SEPTEMBER 20, 2008), RESULTING IN HIS AGREEMENT TO STEP DOWN OR RESIGN.
THE COLONIAL BOUNDARIES, DISCRIMINATION AGAINST BANYARWANDA, AND FDLR ISSUE ARE ALL IRRELEVANTS. FOR INSTANCE: FIRST, THERE IS NO CONFLICT BETWEEN DRC AND 7 OF THE 9 NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES FOR THE LAST 28 YEARS, EXCEPT RWANDA AND UGANDA. ALSO THERE WERE NO CONFLICT WITH NONE SINCE CONGOLESE'S INDEPENDANCE. SECONDLY, KINYARWANDA IS NOT A NATIVE LANGUAGE IN DRC AND CONGOLESE PEOPLE NEVER MISTREAT BANYARWANDA. FOR EXAMPLE, PRESIDENT MOBUTU DID HAVE HIS CHIEF OF STAFF AND PRIME MINISTER FROM RWANDA ORIGIN. FINALLY, IT IS NO SENSE TO USE FDLR AS A EXCUSE AFTER 30 YEARS OF GENOCIDE IN RWANDA.
DESPITE THABO MBEKI AND PAUL KAGAME'S PROPAGANDA, THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS THRUIMPH. CONGOLESE PEOPLE MUST UNITE TO WIN THIS WAR IMPOSED ON US. L'UNION FAIT LA FORCE!!
There are 450 different tribes in DRC and all are minority! Why others minorities are not taking up arms to ask also protection?
Thabo Mbeki is not serious... Disgustng explanation and false debate!!! In a certain way is justifying the crimes in the East of Congo. Like M23 has the right to do what they are doing actually!!! What a shame!!!
Say it again. Being a Rwandan is not belonging to a specif tribe but being citizen of the Rwandan republic but not the DR Congo. Mbeki is just another corrupt creature.
@@bownserbros6472I didn’t know that Congolese are xenophobic towards others African. We have Haussa and Fulani everywhere in Africa, people accept them so why Congolese behave this way?
@@motasonbecause in the case of these people there's proof of them coming in as refugees from Rwanda in 1959, they are Rwandans and have nothing of Congolese in them, Thabo mbeki is friends with kagame and we can how biased and one sided his intervention is, he did not properly research a topic as sensitive as this, real congolese are being murded and replace with these same Rwandans they calling they're brothers from Rwanda to come inhabit land whilst getting rid of true people of the land
If Thabo mbeki is saying these people are Congolese that means all refugees in the world can now claim land in South Africa then because they've been there for over 20, 50 years although these Nigerians and foreigners don't have anything south African in them and don't even speak a single South African dialect my brother tell me is that right? Will u in South Africa be happy if that happens in your country?
@@sbRosy56835 We have Sudanese in Chad, like Idriss Deby and even Mahamat Deby his son, the two presidents are not originally from Chadian, their family came as refugees. Khadafi is from Niger and Chad but was able to be president in Libya 🇱🇾. You mentioned yourself 1959, come on they almost 55 years, they are now Congolese not Rwandese, they have no place to stay in Rwanda 🇷🇼. Go read about Zaghawa in Sudan and War of Darfour. You Congolese people are all originally from Chad 🇹🇩, this land is not yours.
Eye opening speech Mr Mbeki... Words of wisdom
Thank you God bless you sir🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️
Thanks for these very informative videos! I am following you almost daily! 👏👏👏
PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI IS NOT HONEST ABOUT HIS POSITION ON ISSUE BETWEEN DRC AND RWANDA. I BELIEVE THAT THABO MBEKI HAS BEEN CORRUPTED OR PAID TO ADVANCE KAGAME'S NARRATIVE OR PROPAGANDA.
HOW CAN YOU BELEIVE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT BANYRWANDA LIVING IN CONGO? WHILE HE WAS ASKED TO RESIGN FROM THE SOUTH AFRICAN PRESIDENCY BECAUSE AN ALLEGATION BY A HIGH COURT JUDGE ON POLITICAL INTERFERENCE IN ZUMA'S PROSECUTION ABOUT CORRUPTION CHARGES (SEPTEMBER 20, 2008), RESULTING IN HIS AGREEMENT TO STEP DOWN OR RESIGN.
THE COLONIAL BOUNDARIES, DISCRIMINATION AGAINST BANYARWANDA, AND FDLR ISSUE ARE ALL IRRELEVANTS. FOR INSTANCE: FIRST, THERE IS NO CONFLICT BETWEEN DRC AND 7 OF THE 9 NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES FOR THE LAST 28 YEARS, EXCEPT RWANDA AND UGANDA. ALSO THERE WERE NO CONFLICT WITH NONE SINCE CONGOLESE'S INDEPENDANCE. SECONDLY, KINYARWANDA IS NOT A NATIVE LANGUAGE IN DRC AND CONGOLESE PEOPLE NEVER MISTREAT BANYARWANDA. FOR EXAMPLE, PRESIDENT MOBUTU DID HAVE HIS CHIEF OF STAFF AND PRIME MINISTER FROM RWANDA ORIGIN. FINALLY, IT IS NO SENSE TO USE FDLR AS A EXCUSE AFTER 30 YEARS OF GENOCIDE IN RWANDA.
DESPITE THABO MBEKI AND PAUL KAGAME'S PROPAGANDA, THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS THRUIMPH. CONGOLESE PEOPLE MUST UNITE TO WIN THIS WAR IMPOSED ON US. L'UNION FAIT LA FORCE!!
Rather a very misleading one, believe-me
@ etiennekolomoningoy9607 I am South African. The whole of South African leaders are serving the western interests and the issue of Congo is mineral not a moral one in this regards. Mbeki and Mandela sold the South Africans to the western masters and served the globalist interest using South Africa. The issue of Palestine South Africa must be removed there.
Pres. Thabo is so Wise🎉🎉🎉
He sounds like a fool 😩😩😩
@@12345ArmandTo a fool he sounds like a fool
Nothing wise here. Mbeki and Mandela are the western leadership tea boys. The whole ANC appease the westerners away the expense of the black majority. ANC did not liberate South Africa but they replaced others because the master could se their evil intention and the fact that they didn’t wanna serve the land of South Africa but only the p families. Those who embrace this thugs are those who are aligned politically. We are silenced here in South Africa and the is no such thing as democracy here in South Africa
President Mbeki knows it very well.
Is it possible to elaborate the war between Ugandan army and Rwandan army in Kisangani/DRC? Was it an internal conflict?
No, he is wrong about congo. He is talking about congo from 1997 history, which made up my AFDL, a group of Kagame, museveni, and Kabila to plan divide congo with the help of Americans democrates and its multinationals.
I am surprise that someone for his calibre teaching a falsify history of an independent nation to a masses of young and people who trust his knowledge capacity.
It is deceptive for us who know the true history of Congo.
May be he had some business interest during his time in power to defend crimes and democrates, Rwandans criminals.
Good question
It seem like President Mbeki doesn't know the congo history
Good and very nice question. How this happened ouganda and Rwanda came to fight in the DRC Kisangani . Just for minerals.
Very proud of Mr.President Thabo Mbeki a very realistic views! interesting lesences..❤
Great platform for sharing African realities. President Mbeki kills it all. He gives us hope about the future.
Dishonest old men misleading Africans
Future of lies. Mbeki is a sick old men who pretend to be honest. Mbeki and Mandela including all ANc leadership sold South Africa to the highest bidder in the western market. This ANC members are nothing but yea boys of the western masters. Many people died from hiv and aid while Mbeki was in denial. Mbeki and his brother are corrupt because they are fingered in arms deal. This guys are evil to the core and as South African I can tell you one thing for sure when people of Southern Africa open their eye war will ensue in the SADC countries and civil war in this part of the continent will never stop for the next 800 years
Divide and Conquer ! Please read "The Infamous Letter of Willie Lynch" to understand how this ideology of Divide and Conquer is implemented. 💛💜💛
Mbeki is lying about history
About the Congo, Mr Mbeki is misleading the public. All honest people who would like to know the truth about the war in the eastern Congo should refer to Charle Onana's book: " Holocauste au Congo : L'Omerta de la communauté internationale » aux éditions L’artilleur. (Written in French). The book is a scientific effort, with strong evidences from reliable sources across USA, Europe and Africa.
Thank you❤❤❤❤
This is the very reason why Africa simply needs to be one country. Isn't this the right approach to deal with this matter?
I love the speech of Mr mbeki truly u are a hero
This clown is Kagames best friend, his talking rubbish, Nobody in Congo is being mistreated, Those Rwanda's are not Congolese and will never be Congolese, We are Bantus their not, they come to our Country as refugees and now they want to claim their Congolese and tomorrow try stealing our land, This Devil of OLD MAN, is working on behalf of the west and Kagame, M23 are a western funded Terrorist Group, this is why Congo government refuses to Negotiate with them, This Guy has invested in the Eastern of Congo when he was President of South Africa, his one of the West Agents, he thinks his Clever, why don't he speak about the Atrocities committed by Rwandais Army against innocent Congolese Women and Children?
He is a liar
He is not genuine, he is superficial with very fragile arguments!
Why didn’t he get 2 terms as President?????
A hero who put us in this mess, in congo he is not a hero but a criminal who participated by gaining so much.
He was supposed to do so the time he was with power but African leaders they talk only history
Thanks so so much we are here in Uganda listening your good speech for the restoration of democracy in Africa.
God bless you God bless Africa.
PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI IS NOT HONEST ABOUT HIS POSITION ON ISSUE BETWEEN DRC AND RWANDA. I BELIEVE THAT THABO MBEKI HAS BEEN CORRUPTED OR PAID TO ADVANCE KAGAME'S NARRATIVE OR PROPAGANDA.
@nbajikijay4296 because he tells facts vs denial delirium, does that make him corrupt? Anyways, people who have decided to take their destiny on their own hands are already on field to get their rights...go and ask Tz, Bdi, SA and Malawi they're learning the lesson at a high cost of their lives. Keep entertaining yourself with those reckless statements: facts are so stubborn my dear...😅
@@nbajikijay4296 on the contrary he is really speaking the truth.
These are the facts that the Congo government does not want to come out.
Who said that language should be the very basis of discrimination?
@@nbajikijay4296 please I beg you to do research on LADO ENCLAVE ... Please
@@niyo2388 False..... What do you know about LADO ENCLAVE....
In Kenya we have Somali speaking Kenyans in northern Kenya on our border with Somalia. Of course we had challenges in the 70's when some of them felt they should be part of Somalia. The Kenyan government then dealt with these dissidents and the matter calmed. Indeed DRC must acknowledge they have Rwandese speaking DRC citizens. It will be the beginning of peace.
We do and some of them are actually in parliament and senate and they even went public to say that they have nothing to do with M23.
I respect president Thabo Mbaki but on this one he bought into propaganda being put forward by president Kagame without doing enough research!
Banyamulenge are Congolese and are well represented in all institutions in the country. M23 in the other is a machine money sucking supported and put in place by the ruling regime of president Kagame or else where do they get so much heavy gun machines?
Please just a research on senator Rumangabo
We did my dear. This Mbeki is a liar. These people have been treated better than any other tribe, yet they choose to serve Kagame. All their problems started in 1994, when kagame decided to invade Congo and overthrow mobutu. They then were used to dominate a majority of other people. They created regions within the Congo and expanded for their people. They continuously convincing Rwandans living in Rwanda ro move in Congo. They killed and continue to kill millions of Congolese people from the villages they want to occupy.
They're dangerous. They also believe they're superior race. Just see how they treat the hutus in their homeland and Burundi.
No one has ever denied the Banyamulenge to be Congolese. They are the Congolese army, in the government, in parliament. The problem started when Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi invaded DRC in 1996. They were looting minerals, killing more than 12 millions Congolese. Rwandese and Ugandan even fought in Kisangani for gold mines. How Rwanda can be the number one exporter of coltan . Thabo Mbeki himself has interests in copper mines in DRC. Banyamulenge problem is just a goats-cap to keep looting DRC minerals
About the Congo, Mr Mbeki is misleading the public. All honest people who would like to know the truth about the war in the eastern Congo should refer to Charle Onana's book: " Holocauste au Congo : L'Omerta de la communauté internationale » aux éditions L’artilleur. (Written in French). The book is a scientific effort, with strong evidences from reliable sources across USA, Europe and Africa.
@@itbjm59pure true and fact, surprise this Tabo mbeki giving this wrong statement and manipulate leader and new génération, we will keep fighting for our own country
Absolutely, you are true and I love your speech, even if it’s my first time to see you you are the best
Very informative video. May God Almighty continue to protect and preserve you President Mbeki
This is a nonsense talk. That best friend of Kagame is misleading African people. There are more than 12 million Congolese who died from the Rwandese violence. There is no kinyarwanda speakers in Congo. Those who speak kinyarwanda are Rwandese refugees who are now claiming Congolese land. That speech misleads people to know the truth.
Misleading history though
@@emmanuelleswangi7616You will face the reality!
@@emmanuelleswangi7616but as. I know the the thing he is talking the truth of reality ,
@emmanuelleswangi
THE GENOCIDE HAPPENED IN RWANDA, NOT IN CONGO. HOW CAN 12 MILLION CONGOLESE DIE BY THE HANDS OF REFUGEES YOU SHELTERED, RIGHT INSIDE OF CONGO? CAN THIS CLAIM BE TRUE? SO WHY IS CONGO A NATION IF YOU ARE THIS DEFENCELESS??? YOUR CLAIM HAS A BIG HOLE.
Thank God that I am among those who listen to you. Please, sir, what effort is Africa elders making toward us the Biafrans in Nigeria. Sir, we need your help. The peace and love of good neighbors are necessary. Thanks for your elderly advice
Does Biafran problem still exist, wasn't it solved already n now we are talking about Nigeria?
What do you expect South Africa to do for you?
The issues of Biafra and others, will be resolved from within.
We need to overcome the problem of divide and rule, moving forward.
Stop embarrassing us.
There is nothing to do with colonialism. DRC has 9 neighbours and the Tutsi situationship we have with gundreds of communities along our borders but only Tutsis who are being a problem.
Thambo Mbeki is either a liar or ignorant or getting stupid. 1st In both Kivu Tutsis are not majority they represent less than 5% in the Eastern DRC region, and less than 0.5% in the whole country.
DRC do recognize Some Tutsis and Banyamulenge as congolese. But what Mbeki is failing to say is that there have been unrest in Rwanda even before their independence and many Rwandan were coming as refugees in DRC. From the 1960. That's where the issue is, Rwandan refugees who want the right as citizen, it will never happen. Congolese are not stupid, like in SA are they going to allow a ndebele from Zim run for MP because they are Zulu speaking or because his parents came to SA as refugees? No, for the obvious reason. Does it mean that SA will be discrimating Zulu speaking people in SA? Let's not mix things up. Kagame is using that confusion that Mbeki is displaying to make DRC look being hostile to Tutsi speaking congolese, even during Mobutu time as Mbeki tried to demonize a dead man, which you don't do as an African to respect his memory, since the same Mobutu was good when he led African to fight apartheid in the UN and even financing ANC like no other African countries, Mobutu always worked with Tutsi speaking Congolese. His office chief of staff in the 70s was Tutsi born in Rwanda, we had and still have rwandophones in our government and parliament. Kengo wa Ndonndo that Mbeki knows very well, a Tutsi from DRC, have been prime minister many times and president of Cenat for more than 10 years under Joseph Kabila. Meaning if kabila died or became incapacited for any reasons he would have become President. And we have had a Rwandan, James Kabarebe, chief of staff of the DRC army with Laurent Kabila and Azarias Ruberwa as Vice President under Joseph Kabila. For a tribe that represent less than 0.5% of DRC population we must agree that they always been placed in best position in the DRC hierarchy and politics. In our army they are better represented as generals and colonels, reason why the can easily start a rebel group because in a way the control the army. In DRC we even jokingly say Tutsi don't like being businessman than general in the army, it's a joke but they know why.
Mbeki won't deny these facts. And only that kills the argument that congolese must recognize Rwanda speaking population as congolese, How do we do that more than what I just presented. It must also be noticed that DRC has 450 tribes and none of them is majority and not all of them have ever had the chance that Tutsi have had in DRC politics. Some tribe never saw a MP in the parliament or a minister and they never took and will never plan to take arms against the country. So Mbeki must stop lying, as I believe he's not ignorant.
@@jackngoyi9987 just the way you present the matter by illustrating some positions held by Tutsi here and there itself, explains your tribalism. Today a Rwandan leads customs in Togo, a Cameroonian leads Kigali Financial Center in Rwanda, a Congolese leads mining industry cooperation in Rwanda, a Burundian leads journalists organization in Rwanda and that has never be singled out as “positions given to them” by anyone because they were chosen for their abilities to deliver. It’s only in DRC where that becomes pointed out when it’s a Tutsi the place, which easily demonstrate what Mbeki is saying. Again being a minority doesn’t give you the right to persecute them or single them out or pump your chests pointing out positions they held because they were able to do the job better than you. You are trying to explain the expulsion of Kinyarwanda speak Congolese as chasing away Rwandan refugees? Rwandan went back home. Those living in the camps across the region will never accept the fatality. They will fight for their rights until that prints in your minds. Those generals in the army you are joking about, how are they treated? Didn’t we see a captain being lynched in the presence of his colleagues burnt and eaten by locals? What is that privilege you are yapping about here?
Biafra and Western Cameroonians are same people, divided by colonial borders. We should join and declare. How formidable can we be as part of a coherent, larger African entity, in our comfort zone.
Africa must unite 🙏 🙌 👏 and stop the in fighting amongst themselves
Division was done . Please our people UNITE. You give the history ,the problem and solution.
We really appreciate the people of south Africa for their support to DRC and is people we are greatful to the government of south Africa and is president Cyril Rama he's a great leader he deserves all the support
@ peterjoesph9508 what support when this guy is falsifying history of Congo. This guy sold South Africans and failed to liberate them when he had all the powers to do so
Not this lie of a leader who was part of the problem
@user-lg7bu6tg6w your Mother and father are the problem not Mbeki
Big ups, much love all the way from CPT 🇿🇦.
Do research on LADO ENCLAVE...then come again
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
@@miyekiluifu367You are 💯 % this Mr Mbeki is spreading the rwandan lies to the world
@@miyekiluifu367You are right, let’s keep spreading the truth
Fruitful & honest discussion worthy of all African audience & emulation
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo in 1809. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
@@miyekiluifu367 so why all the territories, mountains, rivers and everything in Eastern congo have kinyarwanda, would you tell me why if there was no kinyarwanda speaking there?
@@thierrybwanakweli479 I don't fully support the thesis that there was kinyarwanda speaking people in eastern Congo, it's important to note that Kinyarwanda and other languages in the eastern Congo are so similar. So not everything (mountains and areas specifically) that's sounds Kinyarwanda is necessarily that language.
About the Congo, Mr Mbeki is misleading the public. All honest people who would like to know the truth about the war in the eastern Congo should refer to Charle Onana's book: " Holocauste au Congo : L'Omerta de la communauté internationale » aux éditions L’artilleur. (Written in French). The book is a scientific effort, with strong evidences from reliable sources across USA, Europe and Africa.
Great speech 🎤 thanks the son of the soil 🙏
Thanks to Ubaba Thabo Mbeki for being this great figure in Africa. It is a shame to see former presidents showing interest in coming back into politics instead of embarking on a mission like President Mbeki is doing. This is beautiful to see African elders involved in a peace keeping mission by engaging with Presidents and factions. We are proud of you Baba Thabo Mbeki 😊from Zambia.
You are lying sir all what you are defending is totally what we are refusing as congolese citizens
Unfortunately you will never understand but I'd say Zuma is sent by the God of this Garden of Eden which our enemies renamed and called it... Afrique
Thabo mbeki reiterates what Nyerere said sometimes back in 1999 about banyamulenge, Tutsi and Hema people who are denied their identity as Congolese in Eastern DRC.
Conflict will never end untill the above group of people have their right to live peacefully in their country without being marginalized and labeled as Rwandese simply because they resemble to people from neighbouring countries.
This is the only region where people un neighborhood are treated as foreigners.
boaders of
Zambia- DRC , Angola - DRC, CAR- DRC, Congo Brazaville- DRC, soudan - DRC, Tanzania- DRc peole in those respective countries are peaceful , why only banyamulemge, bahema and Tutsi in North kivu, South kivu and Ituri facing this problem ?
This is truly an history lesson that is needed. We all have an opinion however are we knowledgeable enough to convey this message majority of the times we choose to speak we are not able to articulate the message. Thank you for taking the time to teach us many of us want to jump into action how we must know what where and when
@ kopekajames754 Mbeki just like Mandela are criminals who sold South Africa to the western master. This are some of the tea boys who serve the masters of Europe at the expense of black Africans. Now that they sold South Africa they are selling the rest of Africa. I am South African and you can’t tell me jerk about Mbeki the evil men who killed blacks who had hiv and aids. Mbeki the corrupt leader who was involved in arms deal and he is involved with the international financial gangster that destroyed the world. You know nothing but you are trying hard to play smart and like you are Nguni busy saying “ubaba Mbeki”. We respect adults who defend us not sellouts not traitors of black life. Southern Africa when they open their eyes they will fight and it will be too late
Thank you for enlightening Africa brother !!
PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI IS NOT HONEST ABOUT HIS POSITION ON ISSUE BETWEEN DRC AND RWANDA. I BELIEVE THAT THABO MBEKI HAS BEEN CORRUPTED OR PAID TO ADVANCE KAGAME'S NARRATIVE OR PROPAGANDA.
HOW CAN YOU BELEIVE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT BANYRWANDA LIVING IN CONGO? WHILE HE WAS ASKED TO RESIGN FROM THE SOUTH AFRICAN PRESIDENCY BECAUSE AN ALLEGATION BY A HIGH COURT JUDGE ON POLITICAL INTERFERENCE IN ZUMA'S PROSECUTION ABOUT CORRUPTION CHARGES (SEPTEMBER 20, 2008), RESULTING IN HIS AGREEMENT TO STEP DOWN OR RESIGN.
THE COLONIAL BOUNDARIES, DISCRIMINATION AGAINST BANYARWANDA, AND FDLR ISSUE ARE ALL IRRELEVANTS. FOR INSTANCE: FIRST, THERE IS NO CONFLICT BETWEEN DRC AND 7 OF THE 9 NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES FOR THE LAST 28 YEARS, EXCEPT RWANDA AND UGANDA. ALSO THERE WERE NO CONFLICT WITH NONE SINCE CONGOLESE'S INDEPENDANCE. SECONDLY, KINYARWANDA IS NOT A NATIVE LANGUAGE IN DRC AND CONGOLESE PEOPLE NEVER MISTREAT BANYARWANDA. FOR EXAMPLE, PRESIDENT MOBUTU DID HAVE HIS CHIEF OF STAFF AND PRIME MINISTER FROM RWANDA ORIGIN. FINALLY, IT IS NO SENSE TO USE FDLR AS A EXCUSE AFTER 30 YEARS OF GENOCIDE IN RWANDA.
DESPITE THABO MBEKI AND PAUL KAGAME'S PROPAGANDA, THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS THRUIMPH. CONGOLESE PEOPLE MUST UNITE TO WIN THIS WAR IMPOSED ON US.
I feel good when I hear our father Thabo mbeki speaking.
You are father too !!🌎 don't be voiceless salute ❤uk
🇸🇴One of the best smarts president in Africa good bless you president mbike --qadafi Mandela 🙏🏽
Inspiring to listen as well from Canada. United Africa is a great challenge but very much needed for the world.
Will never happen.
United Africa sounds like united Asia. It is arrogant and borderline racist to say that whoever is black are all the same. That is simply not true. Only frustrated diaspora think like this.
Look up LADO ENCLAVE please
@ floras9203 you can’t unite Africa with lies. The problem is Mbeki and Mandela are western masters tea boys just like the rest of ANC leadership. They sold South Africa and now they are selling africa. I am South Africans and we don’t have democracy here. If Mbeki refused to give land to his people when he had 2/3 majority then how will he help other Africans. I the same Mbeki allowed millions of black lives to die from HIV and aids then Africans outside South Africa must trust this men ?
I like the presentation. It's eye opener
May wisdom and mercy prevail in the DRC and Rwanda. Please GOD.
This Man really understand the issues in Congo, Congolese govt failed and looking someone to blame. Rwanda have been fair to this, Congolese govt have to take responsibility. And war is not solution, just dialogue and govt refused, actually M23 is fighting for right causes. SADEC have made a historical mistake supporting a govt to fight its own people
Inspiring to listen to the logic of unity & resetting democratic governance. Thankyou from Australia
Good speaker but he doesn't know DRC problem, bought by kagame. Shame to those who listen to his history and take his part. Nonsense speech.
Will take daily dose of facts from historical teachings and education from no other than the Great STATE MAN Dr Mbeki 👍 , YES WE FOREVER REMEMBERED MARIAM MAKEBA TRUTH TO POWER
Mbeki is an idiot.He is lying.
MBEKI IS A LIAR, CORRUPTED, AND DISHONEST MAN. DO YOU KNOW WHY HE RESIGN AS SOUTH AFRICA PRESIDENT? DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH ABOUT HIM.
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo in 1809. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
This a good worker of westerners! He is telling lies, pure lies
What an Awesome former President of an Important African Nation. This speech has a educated me & hopefully many African people and beyond. Thank you HE Mbeki
Bullshit.... Tell me about LADO ENCLAVE... IT'S MORONIC TO TALK ABOUT EASTERN CONGO WITHOUT MENTIONING A THING ABOUT ( LADO ENCLAVE )... THIS IS WHERE KING LEOPOLD KILLED OVER 100 MILLION OF OUR PEOPLE... YET NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF ( LADO ENCLAVE ).... THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EASTERN CONGO WITHOUT ( LADO ENCLAVE ENCLAVE ).... NONSENSE...DO RESEARCH PLEASE RESEARCH PEOPLE.... How can you talk about Eastern Congo without mentioning about the 100 million people King Leopold killed in this land that he claimed to be his own personal playground with the elite friends he had in Europe... and then the deal was after his death the land was carved into three pieces part of which was handed to Congo now called the Eastern Congo the other part now called the equatoria in southern Sudan and then the other part to Uganda called West Nile. You people are all part of this nonsense and you are contributing to the hiding of the true history of this land and the genocide took place on LADO ENCLAVE that's been probably the most evil genocide of all time.
Mbeki is peddling lies, he’s selling a narrative that no longer holds truth. He’s simply misleading you!
All honest people who would like to know the truth about the war in the eastern Congo should refer to Charle Onana's book: " Holocauste au Congo : L'Omerta de la communauté internationale » aux éditions L’artilleur. (Written in French). The book is a scientific effort, with strong evidences from reliable sources across USA, Europe and Africa. Mr Mbeki is misleading the public.
@@etiennekolomoningoy9607Charles onana is married to a rwandese Hutu who’s fathers committed Genocide in Rwanda against Tutsi and is the one you are referring too as reference.
Read the administrative archives of colonial leaders and your constitution.
Charles is against Tutsi wether in Congo , Rwanda and Burundi.
@muhirwajonathan7602 True or false, your claims don't matter at all since the evidence demonstrated in Charles Onana's book are just indeniables. It's not about Onana. It's about the clear evidence scientifically demonstrated. Even in the colonial archive, tutsi arrived in Congo as refugees. They don't have lands in Congo. As a foreign community, they have been collectively granted congolese citizenship by Mobutu regime. Saying that they are being denied citizenship is just untrue.
Mulenge is the mountain located in the fulero's land, when this the rwandan came in congo as refugees they named their group after the name of mulenge.
Stop lying, it is the banyamulenge that named all those places and mountains including mulenge ,Remera,minembwe,mibunda,kundodo,gatanga,gatobwe etc.. all those names are kinyarwanda.
@@ndarishizendarishize7953you are the one that has to stop lying, not even Thabo mbeki will make us believe your lies cause clearly I are all part of the game, you Rwandans refugees are well recorded coming in as refugees and today I want to claim land, nope not happening anytime soon, it's simply political & u just want to conquer Congolese land
@@ndarishizendarishize7953you and I both know that Mbeki is lying. Rwanda wants to keep looting the resources to serve its masters 🙄🙄🙄
Kagame and Museveni have an ideology of cleansing indigenous tribes/ people of great lakes region
Are you European ?
Your stupid and ignorant
Interahamwe online 😂
But the opposite
Are you 10?
One of the most notable sons of Africa, Pan African refreshing to hear Mbeki speak on Africa .
Father we appreciate your interventions in Africa matter
God bless you papa for telling us the history between Congo and Rewada may God continue to strengthen you to put an end to this mess in Africa
Our history is distorted and depends on who tell you African history
No one will explain better than Congoles the History of Congo. President Mbeki is wrong by all means when it comes to Rwandeses in the Congo. He is repeating the rethoric from Kagame 1😂😂😂😂
There's not Banyamulenge nor Rwandese Congoles. Noway
The Congolese politicians do not care about the development of their country, they surrended their minerals to Chinese, Israelis, Americans, Arabs, the corrupt ANC elite. Congo then denied basic rights and citizenship to their fellow brothers and sisters simply because they speak a different African language in this case Rwandan. Congo demonizes Kagame to brainwash their people people and escape accountability for lack of order, development and basic infrastructure in a country with vast minerals and resources.
Y’all the tribalist now Mwalimu Nyerere, Nelson Mandela doesn’t know this crisis when it started? Why do y’all think know things better that every single person here? We are Congolese and enough is enough and we’re back for good and we’re not going anywhere.
@ gabienzazi9657 I am South Africans and I have read bit of history about Congo and I can tell you Mbeki is lying here
Thabo I am so happy you are still around to make your substantial contribution to the the welfare of Africa. The interference from Colonial powers has to be rooted out.
He still around but he not aware of what is going in East DR Congo!!! Or he been paid to talk craps
@@erickarangwa949 what crap did the elder state man said my friend?? Is it right to slaughter your own people and children? Stups bs
Mrs Mbeki is big liar in service of the imperialist who are pushing the malicious agenda of balkanising DRC. Tutsi problem is just a pretext. The real interest is the mineral resources. Talking Tutsi, Mrs Mbeki has reversed the roles. The Tutsi are not victims in Congo, they are rather the aggressors. 12 million deaths, are Congolese victims. Who are the killers? Rwandan Tutsi are the killers with the strong support of western imperialist. Several UN reports have demonstrated this. Anti Tutsi narrative in DRC arose just as a self Défense talk.
Waooo,I wish to meet you and ask you few questions,as an African living in south Africa for 2 decade I appreciate d way u clarify these issues of Africa ,some of us are just hating some leaders without knowing d whole true
So proud Africa is uniting. The 1st step to economic prosperity is unity. The whole purpose of the colonizers and the boundaries they put in place was to divide and conquer.
How is Africa uniting when the west is using Kagame to attack Congo and Mbeki is here peddling lies to justify an economic war that has resulted in millions of people being massacred?
To understand better the eastern congo Conflict you have to go back in time Thabo Mbeki and Mwalimu Nyerere have done justice on explaining it
This clown is Kagames best friend, his talking rubbish, Nobody in Congo is being mistreated, Those Rwanda's are not Congolese and will never be Congolese, We are Bantus their not, they come to our Country as refugees and now they want to claim their Congolese and tomorrow try stealing our land, This Devil of OLD MAN, is working on behalf of the west and Kagame, M23 are a western funded Terrorist Group, this is why Congo government refuses to Negotiate with them, This Guy has invested in the Eastern of Congo when he was President of South Africa, his one of the West Agents, he thinks his Clever, why don't he speak about the Atrocities committed by Rwandais Army against innocent Congolese Women and Children?
I have seen the Nyerere work. Africans must never trust Mbeki just like Paul his friend. ANC has political agenda to mislead Africa as a whole
THABO MBEKI IS A LIAR, CORRUPTED, AND DISHONEST MAN.
There were no registered Kinyarwanda speaking tribe in Eastern Congo by the time the colonial power created the Independant State of Congo. Thabo Mbeki and all the reste of African Leaders need to go the Tervuren museum in Belgium to learn about the truth. There you will find all the registered congolese ethnical groups or tribes that were living in the entire DR Congo and more particularly in Eastern Congo before the colonial presence. No Tutsi or the so called BANYAMULENGE were living at that area before. Ignoring the true history of Congo leads to this kind of Tutsi-Killers' inspired narrative. It's now time to take stand against this dangerous Tutsi driven lie in order to stop the western supported Tutsi madness and killing in Eastern Congo.
No sense he doesn't know nothing, is actually a friend of Paul Kagame
Very informative
All lies by Mbeki
Lies people need to read the true history of Congo. We don't have tribe called banyarwanda, banyamulenge, the refugees who were given the citizenship. Ask him why did SA cut ties with Rwanda? He is broke he needed some money so he could stand and lie in the open. Stupid
All lies sies 😡😡
Thanks for your support thabo mbeki
I said: " the word " Home" has been left out in front of the word Economics.
Home: South Africa. Thaba Mbeki has a point .. Great point!
Thabo Mbeki is really a Peace Maker . If we had 10 leaders like him in Africa, we would not be suffering like this. War , hunger , Anger, poverty and enmity is everywhere in Africa .
Peace maker blaming others for INCOMPETENCE
@@true5188He was once A President, Once they are Out of Power the become the Bla Bla Bla, and Have all Solutions But If they are still In Power they are often Western Poppet and Corrupted. Look at How his providing the Congo Solution. You can not start by recognising a group on individual in the country who are holding Gans or supported by another country or being used by an outside country in away that western Countries usually created Civil wars and conflict in the name of defending the majority. You start by ending the war and then discuss Citizenship...
If can't tidy your house up, how will clean your neighbours house?
He was a failure as consequente he was sales to step down
Mbeki tried to bring peace to Congo but masters wouldn't allow that. Instead they removed him and replace him with Zuma
Africa unite.
Mbeki he is a liar
I love you my president
You are a true leader
This is the history we should be learning ❤
What history? The president Mbeko is spreading propaganda that he also was told
If we have accepted the borders after colonization let us accept them for peace to exist. We know the minerals are being stolen in DRC so let us not acknowlege it. If you are Rwandan and live in DRC it is for DRC to protect you in their country not for your country to place rebel groups in your host country in the name of protection
Hahhh first of all M23 the rebel that is defending Tutsi congolese are congolese,M23 is congolese
Amen. Plus a Rwandan is not a Congolese. If he is in a foreign country he should abide by the law in that foreign country and not have their governmnt use weapons to bring chaos in the hosting country.
Exactly
@@user-ho2ed6ij4fthat what the west want you to believe if you don’t know please read Charles Onana book. There is no war in the DRC the west is using Rwandan and Ugandan to loot the natural resources seek knowledge and don’t take everything that is being said here 😭😭
I would hazard here an opinion about the young Leaders in Burkina Faso, Niger and Mali as to what to do about them because they want to end the Neo Colonial Relationship with France, should be to Protect those Leaders with all the might of the African Continent and beyond because France is not concerned about the conditions of African People and their homelands wherever they are on the Continent. If that was so you would not have to fight them for what is evidently “ The Right Thing To Have “Already” Done Decades Ago”
i think its a wonderfull work you are doing ....Please continue the revolution....
May the gods of Africa grant you grace...
Thank you for the truth most people don’t know like me I’m half Congolese but I also don’t hate Rwandans I just want to fight to stop but we need to know how it all started so this is an eye opening for me
About the Congo, Mr Mbeki is misleading the public. All honest people who would like to know the truth about the war in the eastern Congo should refer to Charle Onana's book: " Holocauste au Congo : L'Omerta de la communauté internationale » aux éditions L’artilleur. (Written in French). The book is a scientific effort, with strong evidences from reliable sources across USA, Europe and Africa.
About the Congo, Mr Mbeki is misleading the public. All honest people who would like to know the truth about the war in the eastern Congo should refer to Charle Onana's book: " Holocauste au Congo : L'Omerta de la communauté internationale » aux éditions L’artilleur. (Written in French). The book is a scientific effort, with strong evidences from reliable sources across USA, Europe and Africa.
@@etiennekolomoningoy9607This man Mr Mbeki is telling nonsense to the world
So, you as a South African know Congo better than congolese themselves?
😂😂😂 this mbeki is ignorant he has been bought
But 110 million but being harassed by 13 million. It's doesn't make sense.
@@michellekabanga3612do you know better than him?
@@luzukombuqu4976 he is ignorant on the matter am sure he was corrupt or din t do his home work
@@tloutlou2655 good question