Yeah, these products are brain-dead, tbh. They're just used to "push the limit" of something that isn't even necessary. Like, imagine having so little muscle that you can't aim using a mouse that weighs more than a feather.
@@ranespider1937 No. I use a Viper ultimate and it’s perfectly fine. Anyone who want something lighter than 50g and will sacrifice this much comfort to get it is actually retarded. If they were so good, then all the professionals would use them. But they don’t. So respectfully, you have an awful opinion.
@TKJliveYTThere's a difference between "probably won't survive you spilling your drink" and "will instantly break if a single drop of water is spilled within 2 meters of it".
@@ranespider1937 yeah, me, a digital artist who's hand and wrist flare up when I have my hand arched and unsupported by anything has no idea what having carpal tunnel is like
@@cupcakemedia1143 No you dont thats why you have carpel tunnel in the first place . Second there is a differents betwin a mice for shooters and sitting there doing minimal movements drawing
@@ranespider1937tunnel in which nerves for ur hand go through kinda on the internal part of your wrist. Keeping hand in that position for prolonged time can create pressure on your nerves which then causes very bad pain and u can't basically move your hand as much. Thats why good mouse and ergonomic position behind the desk is very important.
@@cupcakemedia1143eh, don’t worry. Seems this guy just trynna make every commenter upset with a brain dead response. Imagine spending a whole afternoon just replying to random comments 😂😂. Probably waiting for a notification that says ZTT replied 😂
I don't get the whole lightweight mice craze, like bro, if you're that concerned about your aim in Valorant, it's time for you to do something else with your life.
@@ranespider1937 Ok? 70 bucks each is still kinda ridiculous. 20, 30, or even 40 would be more understandable to recoup dev costs, but 70 when you have to also provide your own internals is kinda nuts.
As a person with a 3d printer, this looks like a tricky plastic to work with, since it needs to be flexible but not brittle. The model would also be tricky as there's a lot of overhangs. I suspect this is being made on a very nice 3d printer, maybe a resin printer or even injection molding. You won't find these at your library for free.
@@giantpickleIt's _not_ injection molded, I can all but guarantee that. My guess is honestly either SLS or resin printing, and I'm leaning towards SLS because of the surface finish.
@giantpickle Our libraries actually have pretty insane printers 💀. The libary card is hundred and a half or so but it's easy to get it for free if you're a college student or a resident of the town. You just pay for the weight.
69 dollars for a 3D printed piece of plastic that probably costed 20 cents to print is fucking crazy. There are 3D models for free if you have a 3D printer or a public one you can use
@@matfat55 it actually is, the 3D printing software can tell you how much filament you use and knowing the price of the entire spool you can know the price, I did it, it was like 20 cents
I love how zach is so excited about a light mouse, when they are only really good for people that are really competitive, but only really plays car sims and doesn’t like helldivers 2 because you can’t pause it
As long as the mouse isn't 1 kg it only matters if you are used to it or not And the weight will matter in grams for professional players and extremely weak people
@@ranespider1937you can not convince me that 20 grams is any different than 60 grams dude How weak are your hands if that makes any difference to you?
For anyone trying to improve aim: For each flick you do try to tense your hand at first then quickly become calm to micro correct the flick, the position your flick ended. Try to find a scenario where you can start off slow with this, then try to speed up more ande more. Only click if you're certain your crosshair is on the head/target. Become comfortable enough ingame to the point where you can fully focus on enemy movement(crosshair placement), where your movement+aim goes naturally.
For the people who want answers or don’t know anything: 1. “Why’s the mouse so light? Heavier is better." - Actually, lighter mice can be way more efficient and less tiring. The Zeromouse is super light but tough, giving you precise control without the extra weight. 2. “Doesn’t the lack of side buttons make it useless?" - Fewer buttons = better control and comfort. Side buttons can mess up your grip. 3. “How’s it comfy with such a simple design?" - The mouse has grooves that fit your fingers just right. Optimum Tech has been tweaking the shape since day one to make sure it’s comfy and works great. 4. “How do you use it without a full shell?" - The Zeromouse is meant for fingertip grip, so you don’t need a full shell to get solid control and comfort. 5. “Isn’t a lightweight mouse with almost no shell going to cause cramps?" - Nah, it’s designed for a light fingertip grip, not for deathgrippers. Using it as intended helps avoid cramps and keeps your hand comfy. At the end of the day, it’s personal preference. Some people just want an effortless feel with fingertip. If you don’t like that, this is not the mouse for you. Thanks for reading, lemme know if you have more questions
kensington trackball is the best form of mousing. idk how it is for boring FPS games but for every game i play i prefer my kensington trackball over such pedestrian mice.
1 depends what you're used to, for me lighter mice fuck my aim up, I like dragging my mouse over the table, but for some people such a small precision may matter
One of the best mice I've ever owned was the Logitech G9x - I enjoyed it for the ergonomics (they came with two palm grips with different sizes and textures) and ability to ADD weight - that alone made a day and night difference in my gameplay since I simply cannot deal with these super light mice people seem to praise nowadays.
Chinese manufacturers already figured out a way to make mouse weigh 29-30 gramm while having full proper shape and internals are pretty good too. give it 2 more years and they’ll figure out how to make 24-26gr without sacrificing proper shell
Great Video! Im trying to build a gaming pc for about 1,500 USD for mostly call of duty and other shooter games anyone got any recommendations on what parts I should get I am new to pc building
I personally need a weighty mouse. I have strange gitter in my hand and those dampen it a lot. I'm also "heavy handed" so it helps me a lot. The light weight things simply never work for me.
Turtle Beach's new Pure Sel has way better software than any Logitech mouse, and it's lighter than the lightest Logitech mouse! Also has amazing texture
I prefer a mouse to be large and heavy. My hand is big and when i have to scrunch my clicker fingers, it makes gaming hard. Been using the G502 wireless with max weight. Feeling the feedback of a heavy mouse is great for gaming imo
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and just are used to it that is all, mind you I have used a g502 for half my life, that thing is a brick of shit
for real i used to use some weighted logitech and it was great, but i switched to a trackball since i HATE using mice, moving your arm around that much is annoying
A smart man in a game of csgo once said: it doesn’t matter how good your hardware and peripherals are because there is always someone better who’s playing on a beat down laptop and the cheapest mouse from their local shop. He was then banned for cheating.
To put this into an incredibly American perspective, the zero Mouse weighs about as much as a single Reese's cup where is the ultralight Mouse is right around a pack of Skittles
and my kensington trackball doesnt follow the same weighting since the only thing that matters to it is the momentum and friction, thus imho making it faster than any mouse on the market
can you do a new or update video on things we should and shouldn't enable on either bios and Nvidia control panel to make our gaming experience more enjoyable.
looks painful, mouse is shaped the way it is for a reason. It gives your hand some support, you can rest your hand on it. Isn't this one of the problems with that Apple mouse, that they had to make a mod that the mouse sits in so the palm can rest on it.
It’s not for palm grip it’s for fingertip, if you had any idea why optimum made this in the first place you’d understand that, “mouse is a shaped the way it is for a reason” not everyone grips a mouse the same way, especially in gaming, I’m a palm gripper but Jesus do some research on what you’re criticizing before criticizing it.
I actually enjoy heavier mice, i might be crazy. Favorite "heavier" mouse I've used so far is the razer pro click mini with both batteries coming in at 3.91oz. I play CSGO Valorant etc all day, feels so much better to me than any lightweight mice. Lightweight mice feel so cheap to me anything >60g feels like I'm paying way to much for barely any components, durability etc. Current driver is a g305s for any added context.
Don’t ask to 1v1 me, you have no chance.
Bet
1v1 lil bro
@@icebreaker2177 bet? , nah it "bruh"
1v1 me
Haha
"Without comprimising grip" i aint even seeing a mouse there
There’s literally nothing to grip in that abomination
i was just about to say
yes , the mouse curve is not even present , it's shit I say
Its a mod, your supposed to cram it into your mouse.
@@summergamer7650wtf 😂
Weight: zero
Ergonomics: sub-zero
Durability: absolute-zero
Subnautica: below zero
Amount of bitches: genuinely zero
@@MagmaS2 nice
ad = 100%
One drop of sweat is gonna ruin everything.
still love that at this point your hands muscles or your reaction time are probably the limit on how quickly you can aim
Yeah, these products are brain-dead, tbh. They're just used to "push the limit" of something that isn't even necessary. Like, imagine having so little muscle that you can't aim using a mouse that weighs more than a feather.
@@chawissyou have no idea what you are talking about and have only peaked bronze
@@ranespider1937u peaked at zinc 4
@@chawiss you're the braindead person here buddy you don't absolutely know what you're talking abt
@@ranespider1937 No. I use a Viper ultimate and it’s perfectly fine. Anyone who want something lighter than 50g and will sacrifice this much comfort to get it is actually retarded. If they were so good, then all the professionals would use them. But they don’t. So respectfully, you have an awful opinion.
It's gonna get water damaged from my hand sweating if not customized.
Salty water even
I was thinking that as well all that exposed circuitry is going to get wrecked.
@TKJliveYTThere's a difference between "probably won't survive you spilling your drink" and "will instantly break if a single drop of water is spilled within 2 meters of it".
@TKJliveYT That's called "comedic exaggeration", try googling it sometime.
@TKJliveYTwell ya you can get in a wreck at 60mph in a motorcycle and a car but which do you think will survive
my carpal tunnel screamed when I saw that mouse
@@ranespider1937 yeah, me, a digital artist who's hand and wrist flare up when I have my hand arched and unsupported by anything has no idea what having carpal tunnel is like
@@cupcakemedia1143this is a fingertip mouse your wrist will be supported by your mousepad and your hand’s neutral position is curved by default
@@cupcakemedia1143 No you dont thats why you have carpel tunnel in the first place . Second there is a differents betwin a mice for shooters and sitting there doing minimal movements drawing
@@ranespider1937tunnel in which nerves for ur hand go through kinda on the internal part of your wrist. Keeping hand in that position for prolonged time can create pressure on your nerves which then causes very bad pain and u can't basically move your hand as much. Thats why good mouse and ergonomic position behind the desk is very important.
@@cupcakemedia1143eh, don’t worry. Seems this guy just trynna make every commenter upset with a brain dead response. Imagine spending a whole afternoon just replying to random comments 😂😂. Probably waiting for a notification that says ZTT replied 😂
I just have a 20$ office pc mouse and its one of the lightest I have ever seen
It's 16 grams, basically 16 m&ms
And I have seen an office PC mouse that supports drag click😂
@@sangwonpark8967 but the mouse I hsve is like 30 grams, so i dont need it to be much lighter
@@tacotatopgnimoclewhsinnifehT DAMN 30 grams is nuts, mine is 96g (I just weighed it lmao)
Damm wtf @@nieveslara2167
Looks as uncomfortable as holding a brick.
A very lightweight brick😂
You use a fingertip grip it's uncomfortable only if you hold it wrong
I don't get the whole lightweight mice craze, like bro, if you're that concerned about your aim in Valorant, it's time for you to do something else with your life.
paying 70 bucks for a 3d printed mousr anyone with a 3d printer can print for 70 cents is crazy
He has spent a year improving his model over 300 versions
@@ranespider1937 Ok? 70 bucks each is still kinda ridiculous. 20, 30, or even 40 would be more understandable to recoup dev costs, but 70 when you have to also provide your own internals is kinda nuts.
@@richardmillhousenixon pooron
It's printed using SLS not your regular filament based 3D printer
@@ranespider1937glazing moment
$70 for a 3d print is pretty damn overpriced not gonna lie
plus you have to buy the Razer Viper V2 Pro
Its just a 3d printed housing, right? If you dont have one at home, there are some at libraries in most densely populated areas
I don't think he sells the STLs just the kit
As a person with a 3d printer, this looks like a tricky plastic to work with, since it needs to be flexible but not brittle. The model would also be tricky as there's a lot of overhangs. I suspect this is being made on a very nice 3d printer, maybe a resin printer or even injection molding. You won't find these at your library for free.
@@giantpickleIt's _not_ injection molded, I can all but guarantee that. My guess is honestly either SLS or resin printing, and I'm leaning towards SLS because of the surface finish.
@@richardmillhousenixonthe creator made a full video about it, go watch it
@giantpickle Our libraries actually have pretty insane printers 💀. The libary card is hundred and a half or so but it's easy to get it for free if you're a college student or a resident of the town. You just pay for the weight.
I'll never get the incessant horniness over lightweight mouses
RIGHT? gimme something with heft
How do you hold that bro?😭😭
Optimum said that he primarily build the kit for a finger tip grip user
@@m9d497 oh ok
Using fingertip grip
69 dollars for a 3D printed piece of plastic that probably costed 20 cents to print is fucking crazy.
There are 3D models for free if you have a 3D printer or a public one you can use
It’s not cheap to print with that material bro
@@matfat55 it actually is, the 3D printing software can tell you how much filament you use and knowing the price of the entire spool you can know the price, I did it, it was like 20 cents
@@sergiokv5711 it's not printed with filament just go watch the video for god sake
There will be that one chad who will win the 1v1 with a trackball mouse.
lol i use a trackball mouse since its way better
@@Isaacthemaniac exactly!
Thats the most uncomfortable looking mouse ive ever seen
as much as this is great, i feel like it would be really uncomfortable over extended periods of time
Why? Cause it isnt.
Extended period of time?
This looks uncomfortable to use over any period of time
Definitely
@@ranespider1937 i could be wrong as I haven't used it, but there's nothing to rest your hand on
@@ranespider1937how the hell would that thing not be uncomfortable
Gamers are a strange species
I love how zach is so excited about a light mouse, when they are only really good for people that are really competitive, but only really plays car sims and doesn’t like helldivers 2 because you can’t pause it
"Without compromising on grip and accuracy" WHAT? I guess it's okay if you used finger grip but otherwise it's absolutely different
As long as the mouse isn't 1 kg it only matters if you are used to it or not
And the weight will matter in grams for professional players and extremely weak people
Extremely incorrect
@@ranespider1937 Not extremely, only slightly. It being lightweight does matter, but you being used to it matters more.
@@ranespider1937idiot
@@ranespider1937stfu bro nobody believes you or cares
@@ranespider1937you can not convince me that 20 grams is any different than 60 grams dude
How weak are your hands if that makes any difference to you?
I can already see that mouse snapping just by holding it 😂
It's either you use it for lifetime or use once, have fun and forget about it kinda thing.
Unpopular opinion, but lighter mouses are honestly worse, need something with at least a little weight, not too heavy though
>knocks mouse off table
>broken
>puts mouse in bag
>broken
>clicks mouse too hard
>broken
I sweat.. so like that board would be dead lol.
Bro, next mouse is going to be just your hand💀
And it will cost 10x the price
That's a thing already
What's the point it looks barely usable, "but it's so lightweight☝️🤓" a mouse wont fix your skill issue, just get good
"No one can 1v1 me with this mouse"
Me with ryzen 4070 🗿
This joke has been dead for 2 weeks!
Yo the ryzen 4070 has now spread to every tech channel i can see, you can really see the algorithm at work
Same! I’m so excited, can’t wait to see how I game in this thing!
What could possibly go wrong having exposed circuitry like that. Surely dust is not a thing.
Looks way too basic and uncomfortable. Besides, I don't use mouse without 20 buttons/ gestures, so i can one hand all my games while drinking coffee
This gon short circuit the moment my sweaty palms even look at it
My Ryzen 4070 will automatically fix my decade old mice's accuracy with it's tensor cores. You have no chance with that...
For anyone trying to improve aim:
For each flick you do try to tense your hand at first then quickly become calm to micro correct the flick, the position your flick ended.
Try to find a scenario where you can start off slow with this, then try to speed up more ande more.
Only click if you're certain your crosshair is on the head/target.
Become comfortable enough ingame to the point where you can fully focus on enemy movement(crosshair placement), where your movement+aim goes naturally.
I have a 3-D printer so I don’t have to to wait to order the 3-D printed housing
There's a typo somewhere in there, unless your ass did in fact print it, in which case, which fibers are the best to eat for 3D printing?
@@jezusbloodie lol
Alternate names could be “Viper Zero”, “Viper V0”, or “Viper Ultralight”, but the official name is also really cool.
Do a 1000 dollar asthetic pc build
Very demanding of you
@@ghirahim8804 I shall ask for what I wish for
I can feel my hand cramping just looking at that.
If it's not PS/2, I'm not buying it.
If it's not ball mouse I'm not buying it
@@yanushkowalsky1402 Interrupt vs polling. Look it up
if it's physical, I'm not buying it. Extra input lag.
@@funny_river9119 usb is polling, ps/2 is interrupt
throws up in computer code
Getting crossmap noscoped by some dude with a mini batmobile frame is crazy
Finally
optimum's contents are really good, i like his builds
For the people who want answers or don’t know anything:
1. “Why’s the mouse so light? Heavier is better."
- Actually, lighter mice can be way more efficient and less tiring. The Zeromouse is super light but tough, giving you precise control without the extra weight.
2. “Doesn’t the lack of side buttons make it useless?"
- Fewer buttons = better control and comfort. Side buttons can mess up your grip.
3. “How’s it comfy with such a simple design?"
- The mouse has grooves that fit your fingers just right. Optimum Tech has been tweaking the shape since day one to make sure it’s comfy and works great.
4. “How do you use it without a full shell?"
- The Zeromouse is meant for fingertip grip, so you don’t need a full shell to get solid control and comfort.
5. “Isn’t a lightweight mouse with almost no shell going to cause cramps?"
- Nah, it’s designed for a light fingertip grip, not for deathgrippers. Using it as intended helps avoid cramps and keeps your hand comfy.
At the end of the day, it’s personal preference. Some people just want an effortless feel with fingertip. If you don’t like that, this is not the mouse for you.
Thanks for reading, lemme know if you have more questions
kensington trackball is the best form of mousing. idk how it is for boring FPS games but for every game i play i prefer my kensington trackball over such pedestrian mice.
@@Isaacthemaniac ???
@@Isaacthemaniac Truly a maniac indeed
1 depends what you're used to, for me lighter mice fuck my aim up, I like dragging my mouse over the table, but for some people such a small precision may matter
if this drops on the floor it will do the lego breaking sound effect
I am in love of this mouse!
That looks like it'll give you arthritis. 💀
“without compromising on grip”
my guy
One of the best mice I've ever owned was the Logitech G9x - I enjoyed it for the ergonomics (they came with two palm grips with different sizes and textures) and ability to ADD weight - that alone made a day and night difference in my gameplay since I simply cannot deal with these super light mice people seem to praise nowadays.
Looks great! Just don't ever sneeze or cough in the general direction of your computer desk, ever
00:29 the form sure seems to sacrifice at least a bit of functionality
They managed to make it more painful than the magic mouse
Ahh yes, the one and only!! Mouse with exposed circuits that totally wont get damaged from you just playing or water damage
I still don't understand why people want ultralight mice they are just so uncomfortable to me
Personally, i like the mouse to have some weight, otherwise it's very hard to do micro adjustments
With some finiking here and there ,this vat could be something.
Its great to finish off what was someones dream for them.👌
I have the v2 but I love it too much to take it apart for a science project lol
The zero mouse is definitely a cool concept though!
That looks like someone just lost a ranked game and took it all out on his mouse
Chinese manufacturers already figured out a way to make mouse weigh 29-30 gramm while having full proper shape and internals are pretty good too. give it 2 more years and they’ll figure out how to make 24-26gr without sacrificing proper shell
If "The Emperor's New Clothes" was a mouse
As soon it falls , it breaks into lego pieces
Bro only loves his family pcs optimum and the ryzen 4070
If “more gear will make me better” was a person 😂
Imagine sneezinge and your mouse stops mousing
I would prefer a heavy mouse if it slides well and has pretty precise sensor. I think that's all you actually need
I swear those people sniping them play Fortnite. The only people in Fortnite who would want this? Sweats 💀.
Serious. Sweats.
This mouse looks like it could fly away if you stare at it too long 😂. But for real, I wonder if it's actually comfy for those long gaming sessions. 🤔
Great Video! Im trying to build a gaming pc for about 1,500 USD for mostly call of duty and other shooter games anyone got any recommendations on what parts I should get I am new to pc building
As someone who has way to much arm strength I can most certainly say, I prefer a much heavier mouse, with DBI control.
I personally need a weighty mouse. I have strange gitter in my hand and those dampen it a lot. I'm also "heavy handed" so it helps me a lot. The light weight things simply never work for me.
meanwhile my ass is looking for heavier mouses with a metal plate in the bottom just so i cant fling them over the mousepad on accident
I got it the second it dropped honestly it was an adjustment but now I can confidently say it has greatly improved my flicks and tracking
Turtle Beach's new Pure Sel has way better software than any Logitech mouse, and it's lighter than the lightest Logitech mouse!
Also has amazing texture
I just wanna comment that i love and appreciation every video you make
I prefer a mouse to be large and heavy. My hand is big and when i have to scrunch my clicker fingers, it makes gaming hard. Been using the G502 wireless with max weight. Feeling the feedback of a heavy mouse is great for gaming imo
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and just are used to it that is all, mind you I have used a g502 for half my life, that thing is a brick of shit
for real i used to use some weighted logitech and it was great, but i switched to a trackball since i HATE using mice, moving your arm around that much is annoying
Optimum litteraly looks as if the actor of greg heffley and tomscott had a child
using only internal components probably more confortable than this
“From a razer viper v2”
*Ultrakill versus ost intensive*
Yeah, leaving all the internal components out in the open to collect dust, gunk and other nasty stuff is a great idea, who would have thought
A smart man in a game of csgo once said: it doesn’t matter how good your hardware and peripherals are because there is always someone better who’s playing on a beat down laptop and the cheapest mouse from their local shop. He was then banned for cheating.
Imagine all the gamer sweat and tears and Doritos dust on the PCB!
Fun fact, the original way to spell the name is: ZerøMouse
I'm so in-between with sensitivity that I'm ready to attach fishing weights to my mouse.
Bro we need another viper ultimate for left handers
To put this into an incredibly American perspective, the zero Mouse weighs about as much as a single Reese's cup where is the ultralight Mouse is right around a pack of Skittles
and my kensington trackball doesnt follow the same weighting since the only thing that matters to it is the momentum and friction, thus imho making it faster than any mouse on the market
@@Isaacthemaniac I'll believe you if you get at least Master on Voltaic benchmarks
Gets a lil to angry and the mouse ends up in 3 different pieces
can you do a new or update video on things we should and shouldn't enable on either bios and Nvidia control panel to make our gaming experience more enjoyable.
Day 99 of asking zach to create pc hardware box art
i don't understand why people prefer mice to be this light. I personally think that heavy mice feel better.
I bet this thing can't survive 5 days Minecraft torture 💀
looks painful, mouse is shaped the way it is for a reason. It gives your hand some support, you can rest your hand on it. Isn't this one of the problems with that Apple mouse, that they had to make a mod that the mouse sits in so the palm can rest on it.
It’s not for palm grip it’s for fingertip, if you had any idea why optimum made this in the first place you’d understand that, “mouse is a shaped the way it is for a reason” not everyone grips a mouse the same way, especially in gaming, I’m a palm gripper but Jesus do some research on what you’re criticizing before criticizing it.
Why don't just play on air? Future mice gonna be lighter than the stuff our atmosphere is made out of
I actually enjoy heavier mice, i might be crazy.
Favorite "heavier" mouse I've used so far is the razer pro click mini with both batteries coming in at 3.91oz.
I play CSGO Valorant etc all day, feels so much better to me than any lightweight mice.
Lightweight mice feel so cheap to me anything >60g feels like I'm paying way to much for barely any components, durability etc.
Current driver is a g305s for any added context.
The skin flakes, oil, and dust on that thing will build up so much plaque on the chipboard that 9/10 dentists will recommend Colgate to clean it
Me using a mouse with all the extra weight plates and a high DPI: “interesting concept, but I’ll pass thanks”
They are going to fill it with hellium balloons next and make it float
With the power of the ryzen 4070 i can beat zach in any game
It's crazy that 80% of the weight is from the battery alone lol
He should lease out the plans to ztt. Imagine the profits.🤑🤑🤑 even the ryzon 4070 never sold that much😂😂