Yes, I would be ideal to go from Tucson through Phoenix into Flagstaff on a train because it will save a lot of time and driving. The new train I will name it will be Arizona SunRunner Express rail system in the State of Arizona.
I know the RailRunner. It goes all the way to Santa Fe from Albuquerque. It's more comparable to San Bernardino's Metrolink than our lightrail though. Both Metrolink and Railrunner go from county to county.
I've been hearing about this for 20 years. If (whenever that is) it does happen (if at all). They should have cars to load up your bicycle or motorcycle so you can more easily travel to your destination.
2024: a bill in the Arizona legislature would outlaw and criminalize even asking for federal funds for rail. Penalty would be to shut down and abolish the Arizona DOT.
I'm for passenger rail expansion, but you're not going to get those Acela type trains you pictured. You'll be lucky to get trains that are on the California Surfliner. This is Amtrak. :(
This is utter ridiculousness, for starters, this isn’t going to be done with the Avelia Liberty, nor Acela, this will be done with plain Amtrak Superliners, the ones that under constant maintenance and really showing they’re age. Secondly, even if there were trains between Phoenix and Tucson, it’s so isolated from the rest of the Amtrak network, only the most dedicated are going to take the tri-weekly Sunset Limited to Tucson, and continue onto Phoenix, unless this has a frequent connection with LA, this is an isolated route. Lastly, the route map is frankly ridiculous, all the Phoenix suburbs that this train says will stop at, will just spread out and delay the train further, for example there are 6 stops in the Phoenix area, with some lesser populated cities like Buckeye, wouldn’t it make most sense to have maybe the main Phoenix stop, and maybe Tempe as the only stops in the Phoenix area? All these stops are honestly going to make the train ride longer, and honestly, if this ever happens, I doubt that nobody will ever get off at half of these stops. This is a good idea, but must be done effectively, Arizona has long lacked Amtrak service, and it just seems like Amtrak’s noticed, and is overcompensating.
Yes if you're going to try to get us out of cars, the passenger rail better be good. I'm hoping we'll get some high speed rail with 2-3 stops in the valley and reaches Tuscon in 1H30M max.
@@Adumzzinthehouse yeah that will never happen. My guess would be 2h 30m from Phoenix to Tucson, if they aren’t delayed. Not to mention UP(Union Pacific) is going to lose their minds if Amtrak proposes this, and will not be supportive of keeping them on time. I’d expect this route to be one of those routes that’s always delayed, that only the loyal ride.
More pipe dreams? This has been batted about for 20+ years and nothing. I for one would vote against this; anyone want to take a guess how much Phoenix crime would find it’s way down in the old Pueblo?
Half of the Phoenix suburbs think and say the same thing about Tucson. There should have been trains between Tucson, Phoenix and Flagstaff 25 years ago. And the STATE should pay some of the cost.
🚅🚅Totally supporting badly needed energy efficient, High Tech train transportation connecting all the states of the nation including Tucson and Phoenix. We are sadly way behind the world in this area!
Reminds me of the Railrunner they have back in New Mexico. Imagine if you could go from Tucson to Flagstaff. I would ride that.
Yes, I would be ideal to go from Tucson through Phoenix into Flagstaff on a train because it will save a lot of time and driving.
The new train I will name it will be Arizona SunRunner Express rail system in the State of Arizona.
I know the RailRunner. It goes all the way to Santa Fe from Albuquerque. It's more comparable to San Bernardino's Metrolink than our lightrail though. Both Metrolink and Railrunner go from county to county.
I support Amtrak’s new route in the State of Arizona between Tucson through Phoenix to the West Valley suburb of Buckeye. I vote yes.
I've been hearing about this for 20 years. If (whenever that is) it does happen (if at all). They should have cars to load up your bicycle or motorcycle so you can more easily travel to your destination.
I'm guessing you can bring your bicycle and rack it within the train.
Hey a streetcar was preposed for years and now we have the link, so it could happen
2024: a bill in the Arizona legislature would outlaw and criminalize even asking for federal funds for rail. Penalty would be to shut down and abolish the Arizona DOT.
Definitely need this
Yes
I say, Yes
What about Flagstaff?! Why does no one care about fantastic Flagstaff?!
This is great to hear!!! Just make it happen!!!
thats my route from Tempe to Tucson, I do every other day in the truck hauling coke product.
I'm for passenger rail expansion, but you're not going to get those Acela type trains you pictured. You'll be lucky to get trains that are on the California Surfliner. This is Amtrak. :(
Are you happy to hear about all the new rolling stock Amtrak recently purchased/ordered?
We'll be lucky to see any passenger rail at all.
And then one day there's no driving to Phoenix lol
Shouldn’t the train run with the Sunset?
I really hope they continue with this plan
Yay now we get Acela on phoenix sub
You have no idea how jank Amtrak’s system is huh, you’d be dead before that happens
Considering how long it took to lengthen the northeast corridor
Would this use the existing Union Pacific track?
yes
If it's not a HSR, its just a waste of time/resources.
This is utter ridiculousness, for starters, this isn’t going to be done with the Avelia Liberty, nor Acela, this will be done with plain Amtrak Superliners, the ones that under constant maintenance and really showing they’re age. Secondly, even if there were trains between Phoenix and Tucson, it’s so isolated from the rest of the Amtrak network, only the most dedicated are going to take the tri-weekly Sunset Limited to Tucson, and continue onto Phoenix, unless this has a frequent connection with LA, this is an isolated route. Lastly, the route map is frankly ridiculous, all the Phoenix suburbs that this train says will stop at, will just spread out and delay the train further, for example there are 6 stops in the Phoenix area, with some lesser populated cities like Buckeye, wouldn’t it make most sense to have maybe the main Phoenix stop, and maybe Tempe as the only stops in the Phoenix area? All these stops are honestly going to make the train ride longer, and honestly, if this ever happens, I doubt that nobody will ever get off at half of these stops.
This is a good idea, but must be done effectively, Arizona has long lacked Amtrak service, and it just seems like Amtrak’s noticed, and is overcompensating.
Yes if you're going to try to get us out of cars, the passenger rail better be good. I'm hoping we'll get some high speed rail with 2-3 stops in the valley and reaches Tuscon in 1H30M max.
@@Adumzzinthehouse yeah that will never happen. My guess would be 2h 30m from Phoenix to Tucson, if they aren’t delayed. Not to mention UP(Union Pacific) is going to lose their minds if Amtrak proposes this, and will not be supportive of keeping them on time. I’d expect this route to be one of those routes that’s always delayed, that only the loyal ride.
If they hadn't wasted money on the 4 mile streetcar, the train between Tucson and Phoenix would already be a reality.
Only electronic train in the County
I did some research on this topic a few years ago. 10 billion dollars. Simply not worth it. Probably knocking on the door of 15 billion now.
More pipe dreams?
This has been batted about for 20+ years and nothing.
I for one would vote against this; anyone want to take a guess how much Phoenix crime would find it’s way down in the old Pueblo?
Half of the Phoenix suburbs think and say the same thing about Tucson.
There should have been trains between Tucson, Phoenix and Flagstaff 25 years ago.
And the STATE should pay some of the cost.
@@micmac99 the State? Lolol that’s the taxpayer lololol
🚅🚅Totally supporting badly needed energy efficient, High Tech train transportation connecting all the states of the nation including Tucson and Phoenix. We are sadly way behind the world in this area!