I have used both genuine and fake Keihin carbs on many scooters... they both work just fine. As a matter of fact I repair 20-40 snowblowers per year for folks and almost always use the clone carbs on them. My local power equipment shop offers owners a choice of genuine or clone in repairs that can use the clones. The new snowblowers have plastic carbs and the Chinese haven't caught up with those yet.
Of course they treated you great, you caught them and then notified eBay. The policy of eBay is zero tolerance for selling fakes and is a lifetime ban. Would take seller quite abit of time to gain positive feedback under new account, so he made things correct by sending you an authentic. Glad it worked out and you spoke up! Great channel and content! 👍🏻
I bought one of those generically made new carburetors for a 12.5HP Briggs for $16.99 instead of $150.00 for an original Briggs Walbro carb, generic one had no marking on it at all, looked identical, and works just as good.
There ya go! Lots of people repair things with knock off "generic" parts as you say that otherwise might not even repair such because either it is not worth the expense or that is all they can come up with ....not only that but a lot of old stuff the manufacturers wont even support anymore! They expect everyone to throw the whole machine away and go to a dealership and buy a brand new one! Thank God companies spring up to take up the slack! AND push back on the pricing! What no one should DO however is emboss another companies BRAND NAME on a part and sell it AS though it is OEM! That is just criminal! No good reason for it either! Not like people wont STILL buy the knock off even without the silly name on it! For pennies on the dollar? LOTS will! DUHH! Actually Ebay has stopped a lot of that kind of thing ....Pretty sure Sudco would not flagrantly risk their account on ebay ...I tend to believe it was an accident ...but who knows
Every single video makes me laugh, the interaction between husband and wife, his reactions to particular predicaments or just the random banter. Either way the formulas working great, oh the small engine repair is cool too lmao..
I worked for Keihen in the past. They won’t sell carbs (or anything for that matter) that don’t pass inspection. They are a Japanese company with strict standards. What you got is a knockoff counterfeit as you correctly surmised. Despite how well the seller treated you, they are illegally selling parts that are made without license and cheats not only Keihen but also workers out of jobs. Keihen actually has a lot of manufacturing in the US. Love your videos!
Youre right on with your comments. It is stealing from Keihin. They spent millions developing that carb on the expectation that when it went to market they could recoup their capital and profit.
"wrong, nothing illegal about it, they do not need a license. keihen only owns the name in countries they pay to own the name in" It's being sold in the US, and Keihin is a registered trademark in the US, so yes. It's illegal.
If they cared about their reputation, they wouldn't be selling fake Keihin carbs!!!! They care about money and not getting caught, report them to Keihin, before some other poor dude gets stuck with a fake trying to find out why his bike runs like crap!
The serial number is for smog identification for a specific model and year..... No serial number is a generic replacement for multiple years and models......... Neither ones is fake.....
So if neither are fake then why did the seller buckle and send out another *real* carb? He down 1 real carb if thats the case or more like he got caught selling fakes and is now down 1 REAL carb but only after selling loads of fakes as REAL.
Smoke DeGrasse Tyson Your full of it. Ebay is a mostly computerized complaint based system. You need to pipe your mouth unless you have first hand knowledge
There are fakes of quite a few carbs as well as nine serialised carbs so it's not as cut and dried as you'd think. The box issue is a problem as is the blank slide and internal differences.
Hey I have something to ask my carb has a pipe going from the side of it to a little clicking thing and it’s something to do with air and it has a small air filter and when it clicks it pumps air out of it do u know what this is thx
Siana Gearz, same man....when I saw the title of the video I temporarily forgot I disassembled my new carburetor and reassembled it with a stronger spring.... so I thought fuckkk I hope that card I bought works!
Siana Gearz my thoughts exactly. fake meaning a carb body that wasn't ported for jets or a slide ect.. dude is obviously a spoiled brat.. that carb was 99% as oppose to the original. big deal the casting is brighter. woopy doo da
As a person who has sold on Ebay, when you contact Ebay with photos and a claim of fakes, they got on the seller pretty hard. But dealing with Ebay as a seller is the fast "race to the bottom" so it might be possible that the seller does deal in real an counterfeit parts as a way to down sell this part. But if customers keep on complaining Ebay will at first prohibit them for selling that particular item and then after that shut them down.
Selling a fake of a brand should get you shut down anyways. The Carburetor manufacture should be notified and maybe they will shut them down. I know I would report them to the manufacture they have the $$$$ to say STOP and or sue
David Evans there is no excuse... product should have been described as, and sold as a "clone"... if that specific word is not in the description, then the buyer has every right to be pissed
Yep, no fakes on eBay period. Could easily have been an honest mistake. The item, before dispatch, should have been checked as being the genuine part. The sellers feedback would alert you to his reputation on whether they was consistently honest or not. I agree with , in in video, that some of the Items on eBay are poorly manufactured. Waste of money.
Hakim Mohamad its technically not counterfeiting it is called cloning. They change one minoot detail, or a material that the product was made with and they are not liable for any copywriting. It's complete bullshit I know, but eBay allows people to sell items like that without giving a flying fuck, that's why I avoid it
Me too! But didn't want to install anything until the dust settled with the transaction and I knew whether or not I had to send the first carb back. So I had to make a choice after I got the new carb: Install the carb and fire it up, or edit the video. Hearing it run would've been more fun, but I wanted to get this published. Thanks for the comment.
Your channel is awesome! You have great presence, personality, and skill!! I look forward to all of your other "cheap builds"!! Keep them coming!! and get a sponsor!
Looks like he tried to pull a fast one on you, but when you called him on it he sent you the right one. If you didn't call him on it he would have just let you keep it. I hope not! It sounds like a good old fashioned bait and switch to me.
mrlithium69 Same. I know it sounds naive, but a good bit of the time the seller really isn't trying to get over on people, which makes it easy for it to happen. You'd be surprised by how many people sell stuff that they simply saw they could get for cheaper than the price they see it selling for and have no actual knowledge of the product other than the specs and images the Chinese exporter gives them, so when they order say 1000 maybe they get real ones the first time, maybe not even, but they look like the picture they're shown on the exporters website or digital catalog so they assume they're "as described" and post them up. If the seller shipped a real first batch, the next batch they either grab from someone else, or the Chinese vendor they've been using just peppers in a few fake pieces or a fake batch here and there to increase margins, which are then mixed in with existing real(or always fake) stock, and they're still none the wiser because they know nothing about a specific brand of transistor, carburator, USB charger, cellphone battery, etc. and usually have too many products to care to research the ins and outs of them all, so they sell them and usually are the ones that get screwed in the end because you will always be able to get your money back as a buyer on eBay if you're sold something fake. Chances are they can't get their money back from the shady Shenzhen vendor that sold them the shit though so they're hit with negative feedback, a strike or possible suspension, and a huge lot of fake shit they bought for genuine prices and can't off load to anyone. This is why when I sold online I sold only things I knew, or designed and manufactured myself and never tried to have hundreds of listings at once that way I could vet all of the products I sold and keep my outgoing packages at a low enough volume to personally check every items condition before packing it.
Chris Carr Very good point. You never really know what overseas vendors are going to send you. I have seen a lot of shady stuff like this. I guess it's just the price you have to pay when doing business with overseas companies. Sad but true.
Still a scam to bait and subtle switch you. Sounds like they obviously hoped you wouldn't notice the fake and there's enough profit in passing the fakes until someone notices. If there wasn't so much time into this it might be interesting to see how the fake works compared to the real.
A man of principle is always good to see. Thank you for your upload , it was entertaining and contained worthy advice.Rebuilding shagged bikes is an addictive hobby...I'm hooked ! cheers and all the best.
And this is why I don't buy anything from ebay any more. I got sick of being sent fake goods or finding out the used item was in worse condition than advertised or even worse just never turned up. I know there are some honest sellers on there but not enough of them. Now go and treat your wife to a nice meal but not one from ebay!!!!!
I gave up on ebay for the same reasons. Got a few bargains but that one purchase for 100 bucks that is worth 0 when you get it eats up all you saved on previous bargains.
Actually, thank you so much for showing us this. I don't know if this is quite naive of me, but I would have never guessed buying something like a damn carb wold be something I'd need to watch out for. Thanks dawgy dawg
The patents are expired on most of these parts, so there is no infringement. Truth is, if you want original, buy from OEM supplier, going on ebay to get something for lowest possible price is simply asking for reproduction parts. That's right its call "reproduction", just like you can still buy new fenders for 1960 chevy, they are reproduction, not counterfeit. It's only counterfeit if it's made without permission from current patent holders. Once patents expire, anyone can make the part. A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted. In Japan, a patent is granted for 15 or 20 years / though without re license payment it expires automatically at 10 years, which corresponds to the length of time the manufacturer is required to provide/supply replacement parts, much like in USA. So quit your fake whining, you set out to buy cheap, and you got it. And nothing you have done shows that the original is better than the reproduction, and quite often reproduction is better.
@@paulsoul9585 You are so un informed. China files more patents per year than any other country, and it's projected to increase to the point where they file more than the next 5. You can be anti China all you want, but it doesnt make your thoughts true.
Damn man, I'm totally with you on this one! I'm like you on these type of things and am a man of my word and also value people with principles and totally hate people without them. People that have no regards and decency to sell exactly what they advertise, might as well jump off the highest building they can find, they won't be missed among us. Like you said, might have been an honest mistake, or just a failed attempt from them to try to scam someone that really would not be able to tell original from fake. Who knows right!? Anyway, enjoyed the video a lot as usual and keep them coming. :)
SgtPiggie ive bought a cheap knock off go pro and it was supposed to do 4k was only vga which is junk... but i did buy a akaso go pro knoxk off for 35$ its actually really great camera i use it in my videos all the time
I put a cheep eBay non original carb on my honda xr400 after a few years it seems to be working fine (I knew it was a non original replica when i bought it, i just wanted the cheep price tag). Is there a reason not to go with the cheaper eBay ones?
The two dead carbs? One thing that seems to kill older carbs like this in hard todiagnose ways is that there are lots of little O-ring seals in there around the base of the jets etc that don't tend to come in carb rebuild kits. Eventually they perish & let air and/or fuel through. Strip one of those carbs down to component level & you'll surely find some little rubber seal deep inside that have gone bad that you can source replacements for... there's not really a lot that can go wrong with the metal bits of a carb...
A couple of videos ago I suspected that, and replaced a gasket/oring for the jet block hoping that would fix it. No change though. But who knows, there could be something else in there.
I’ve bought several clone carbs from eBay. For weed eaters, generators and snowblowers. They have all ran great. I really miss my KDX200, I’m an old man now and don’t heal like I used to so I gave it up. It was an awesome woods bike!
" For weed eaters, generators and snowblowers." None of those applications have a carburetor 1/4 as complicated as a PWK is. You can probably get away with Chinese knock-off on those, but a dirtbike? Not work trying.
If you buy something for half price on eBay of course its gonna be a chinese copy. But they work fine. Honestly i would never buy a brand name carb anymore because the chinese ones work just as well. Ive used many of them, for 1/3 the price thats unbeatable. Carbs in operation are pretty damn simple. Unless something was assembled wrong it'll work just as well.
Sorry man, but a "replica" that has "Keihin" stamped on it and is not a Keihin is ilegal anyways. The seller shouldn`t be selling that. A replica has to have a different brand if is no made by them.
Hey I have an old 125 4 stroke that I was cleaning the carb on and it seems to be starting up real good but my carburetor vent hoses are straight PISSING gas when I reconnect my tank and turn on my fuel petcock . What do you think is going on that so much fuel is flowing right out my vent hoses? It feels like I did something really stupid that I'm forgetting, but I can't think of anything! I have my jets back in place and everything seemed to be tightened down real good. Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks your videos are awesome and funny as hell
It might work fine, I hope he breaks it down more part by part and also test the bike with both once he has the bike running right. Maybe the fake is fine...I would buy OEM myself unless someone I knew swore a knockoff they used works just the same.
I think most people that doesn't got the point just dont want to get the point. So I guess U like to pay full price for a counterfaith Rolex even knowing a counterfait or replica Rolex is illegal.
Horsepower Garage Holes, hoses, o-rings and needle valves. They're not rocket science right? It's just a beat up ol motorcycle anyways. His wife should smack him on these videos once in awhile. It's not like an old Harley or an old Indian bike. She could poke him with a knitting needle.
I'm guessing you either have never bought anything made in China, or you've never bought anything made in America. So just to let you know, things made in China are nearly always junk! Sunglasses, shower nozzles, carburetors, whatever. Junk!
@@scarharting5577 Dont wanna break your heart but most shit is made from China. Even when it sometimes says made in Italy or something like that they mean its just assembeld in that country. While the equipment is actually from China.
They probably don't want it back. The fake items cost only a tiny fraction in China of what you pay for them from your local importer, so they're running huge profits on them anyway.
Jennies Garage so in other words, you will keep it and use it down the line and five years from now there will be no complaints. I don't bother with eBay because of this, it's a gamble even with due diligence.
He hoards engine stuffs... why do you think we never heard what happened to the generator he fixed? I think he should have donated to a storm/hurricane victim who really needed it.
Well first off. I would like to thank you for the wealth of knowledge you have shared in your videos. I just recently stumbled on to your channel and have been utterly addicted to it. I started know absolutely nothing about motorcycles. So your shared experiences have helped in my shopping decisions about one. I have not yet purchased one because of shady dealings with sellers. Which you have a video for almost every problem they said were not problems without dropping the the price on the bike. I am now hoping that you stumble across an 08 Suzuki forenza so I can getting the one in my yard running again I thank you. Hope you keep it going.
Yeah but if it's counterfeit does it still work or is there nothing inside the carburetor I don't care about serial numbers would the carburetor work if you bolted on your motorcycle
Does it work? Like I didnt watch the previous video are You trying to restore this bike? I mean if I bought a cheap part I would assume its a knock off and as long as its work how I need it too then I figure its a good deal
Legit laughed out loud @ "we all have impossible dreams," response to wife wanting a nice dinner haha, such beautiful comedic timing you two have... incredible chemistry. Keep making vids, thanks! After the generator Dx/Tx and this >>> subbed
Welcome to the wide world of Chinesium.... Authentic "replicas" mainly because almost everything in America is made in china or made from parts made in china... It will probably work...but will go bad in 1/4 of the time P.S. they will bend over backwards to make that "bad review" go away...their bread and butter is that "rating" they have...if it goes to low they get pushed down in the search engine
@Jennies Garage, just wanted to add; having an website is just another level of scam. They're getting smarter too ;) Cant for my life remember now, but just watched something similar happened to a guy ordering something to his quad, and they had a "legit" website, but after he done a website review search he found out like 18/20 negative ratings for it "buyer beware". btw.. Really dont like what YT have become, unlike others (you:D).. but what I just wanted to say is that I really miss you guys. Can't wait for even like an Shasta update or whatever.. 🤔😇👄
Hey man, I love watching your videos. I'm a bike guy too and I'm trying to get fully in depth with Enduro and dirt bike builds. I currently own a 2006 Zongshen LZX-200GY. It's the Chinese imitation of a Yami TW 200. I need a carburetor tho. Can you please let me know the company you purchased your carb from? I can only find knock off Yami carbs.
To everyone saying if it works it's no big deal, IT IS he requested a genuine original part! if he wanted cheep the ya it works it works. He paid for real stuff he deserves to get the real stuff! Same reason a kit car isn't worth what the real car is worth it's not the same, it's not real! Love the vids, keep up the good work
jdattaway he expected what he paid for. When u can buy an genuine for 100$+ but receive an aftermarket you could have bought originally for a 1/3rd of the price... can you see where hes coming from?
Was looking for a cab for my 05 Yamaha dt125re and I had spoke to a few people that had bought mikuni carburetor and ended up with Chinese knock offs they worked . but if your paying good money for something you should be getting what you ordered not a knock off ? I have put on a full dep exhaust system on my 2005 Yamaha dt125re I stay in the UK can you help me out with a company where I can get main jets for my mikuni cab would be a big help
that serial number your looking for refers to OEM, does not mean the unit you got is fake....i bought a new 39mm for my CR500 direct from Australian distributor and it had no numbers on the fuel bowl.
If it works and you Can get some of your money back then I don’t see an issue. That’s what I would do personally is just say listen it’s clearly not real so I am willing to pay only the amount that one like this would go for
But they let him keep the fake, it shows you the markup they just wanted to be done with it. I had that with knock of radiators they were like keep them we will 2-day ship you new ones...LOL But I took CZcams video of the issue and said "this is unlisted for now"...LOL Bad press is obvious with the press of a button to let the video out to CZcams.
michael, where did you see anyone say anything about it being made in the US? you are so dumb, is that why your comment is gone? "Michel Linschoten Where do you think the real ones get made? Keep dreaming that the castings are usa made you people are so dumb"
There is a whole host of issues that cheap carbs can cause. The bore might not be sized right or smooth enough, the slide might not move as freely as it should and cause a jerky or sticking throttle, the cheaper gaskets could allow pirate air into the intake and cause it to run lean, the list goes on... There's a lot to be said about genuine, quality parts when it comes to engines.
It's not a fake carburetor, it's a real carburetor that is a knockoff of the original brand. Also, complaining that your time is too valuable while at the same time making a video using up that valuable time isn't quite right, just saying.
The videos he makes will be monetized so he gets money just by people watching his videos, this is why so many people are making videos on youtube to get extra income from.
Was it a real carburetor I'm having a hard time getting one mine is a 40mm carb but no Mark's and no numbers I dont even know what to get so if you can please respond
my question is, why would anyone make a counterfeit carb?... also, does the carb function as a carb? it might work as is with some minor jetting changes (sorry , that's what you needed to do with the old carb, so I know that's not an option) in short. why not just use it?
Apparently, you've never been scammed on ebay. Trying to fix someone ripping you off, is not easy. As far as ebay is concerned, you're the person trying to rip off the seller and get something for free- they have to be convinced, evidence must be presented, and done so in such a manner that they can follow your proof and come to their own conclusion that aligns with yours- because the seller is doing the same thing. It's a veritable pain in the dick, as they say. Time is valuable, certainly; but so is conducting honest business, getting what you've paid for, and in this case, getting the carb you want and need so you can enjoy the bike you want to ride. So, two hours isn't excessive at all, it's markedly efficient.
i vote that you put the fake carb on there first and see how it runs
We'll see what it can do.
Agreed..... test and record performance results from both the Keihin clone carb and the genuine Keihin.
Im curious too how the fake will perform compared to the real deal.
Yeh I wonder if the fake can be as good or better than the real carb. Do tests and please upload
I have used both genuine and fake Keihin carbs on many scooters... they both work just fine. As a matter of fact I repair 20-40 snowblowers per year for folks and almost always use the clone carbs on them. My local power equipment shop offers owners a choice of genuine or clone in repairs that can use the clones. The new snowblowers have plastic carbs and the Chinese haven't caught up with those yet.
Let’s get this straight, the “fake carburetors” are still real carburetors.
"I want us to go on a nice dinner"
"We all have our impossible dreams"
Me too
What a tosser
Can NOT go on nice dinner because the MAN of the house spends ALL the money on junky old motorcycles! T or F?
@@-ahvilable-6654 I thought there was hair on my phone screen when I saw your profile picture 😁 Nice one
Hehahehahehabehah
Her: "All i want is to go out to a nice dinner". Him: "We all have our impossible dreams". This was so funny what a legend.
Hilarious😂
Of course they treated you great, you caught them and then notified eBay. The policy of eBay is zero tolerance for selling fakes and is a lifetime ban. Would take seller quite abit of time to gain positive feedback under new account, so he made things correct by sending you an authentic. Glad it worked out and you spoke up! Great channel and content! 👍🏻
You should contact Sudco about that seller, the Sudco sticker on the knockoff is a big problem for business.
I called them and they said it's rampant. Not only do they copy the carbs, but even the boxes and stickers!
I bought one of those generically made new carburetors for a 12.5HP Briggs for $16.99 instead of $150.00 for an original Briggs Walbro carb, generic one had no marking on it at all, looked identical, and works just as good.
There ya go! Lots of people repair things with knock off "generic" parts as you say that otherwise might not even repair such because either it is not worth the expense or that is all they can come up with ....not only that but a lot of old stuff the manufacturers wont even support anymore! They expect everyone to throw the whole machine away and go to a dealership and buy a brand new one! Thank God companies spring up to take up the slack! AND push back on the pricing! What no one should DO however is emboss another companies BRAND NAME on a part and sell it AS though it is OEM! That is just criminal! No good reason for it either! Not like people wont STILL buy the knock off even without the silly name on it! For pennies on the dollar? LOTS will! DUHH! Actually Ebay has stopped a lot of that kind of thing ....Pretty sure Sudco would not flagrantly risk their account on ebay ...I tend to believe it was an accident ...but who knows
Every single video makes me laugh, the interaction between husband and wife, his reactions to particular predicaments or just the random banter. Either way the formulas working great, oh the small engine repair is cool too lmao..
I worked for Keihen in the past. They won’t sell carbs (or anything for that matter) that don’t pass inspection. They are a Japanese company with strict standards. What you got is a knockoff counterfeit as you correctly surmised. Despite how well the seller treated you, they are illegally selling parts that are made without license and cheats not only Keihen but also workers out of jobs. Keihen actually has a lot of manufacturing in the US. Love your videos!
Youre right on with your comments. It is stealing from Keihin. They spent millions developing that carb on the expectation that when it went to market they could recoup their capital and profit.
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"wrong, nothing illegal about it, they do not need a license. keihen only owns the name in countries they pay to own the name in"
It's being sold in the US, and Keihin is a registered trademark in the US, so yes. It's illegal.
If they cared about their reputation, they wouldn't be selling fake Keihin carbs!!!! They care about money and not getting caught, report them to Keihin, before some other poor dude gets stuck with a fake trying to find out why his bike runs like crap!
The serial number is for smog identification for a specific model and year..... No serial number is a generic replacement for multiple years and models......... Neither ones is fake.....
Boom .... Somebody gets it ....
So if neither are fake then why did the seller buckle and send out another *real* carb? He down 1 real carb if thats the case or more like he got caught selling fakes and is now down 1 REAL carb but only after selling loads of fakes as REAL.
Lanc Mac fake
Smoke DeGrasse Tyson Your full of it. Ebay is a mostly computerized complaint based system. You need to pipe your mouth unless you have first hand knowledge
There are fakes of quite a few carbs as well as nine serialised carbs so it's not as cut and dried as you'd think. The box issue is a problem as is the blank slide and internal differences.
Hey I have something to ask my carb has a pipe going from the side of it to a little clicking thing and it’s something to do with air and it has a small air filter and when it clicks it pumps air out of it do u know what this is thx
Wait a second. I thought a fake carburettor would be something that looks like a carburettor at a first glance but doesn't function as one.
Siana Gearz, same man....when I saw the title of the video I temporarily forgot I disassembled my new carburetor and reassembled it with a stronger spring.... so I thought fuckkk I hope that card I bought works!
Because of the lack of original parts i use a "fake" carb in my 1980 two stroke honda and it runs just fine even without a serial number
Le Fromhell, cr250?
Siana Gearz my thoughts exactly. fake meaning a carb body that wasn't ported for jets or a slide ect.. dude is obviously a spoiled brat.. that carb was 99% as oppose to the original. big deal the casting is brighter. woopy doo da
haha the chinese fake mikuni on my 125 is doing a fine job, only thing the guy got stung on was buying it thinking it was an original part.
As a person who has sold on Ebay, when you contact Ebay with photos and a claim of fakes, they got on the seller pretty hard. But dealing with Ebay as a seller is the fast "race to the bottom" so it might be possible that the seller does deal in real an counterfeit parts as a way to down sell this part.
But if customers keep on complaining Ebay will at first prohibit them for selling that particular item and then after that shut them down.
Selling a fake of a brand should get you shut down anyways. The Carburetor manufacture should be notified and maybe they will shut them down. I know I would report them to the manufacture they have the $$$$ to say STOP and or sue
David Evans there is no excuse... product should have been described as, and sold as a "clone"... if that specific word is not in the description, then the buyer has every right to be pissed
Yep, no fakes on eBay period. Could easily have been an honest mistake. The item, before dispatch, should have been checked as being the genuine part. The sellers feedback would alert you to his reputation on whether they was consistently honest or not. I agree with , in in video, that some of the Items on eBay are poorly manufactured. Waste of money.
Hakim Mohamad its technically not counterfeiting it is called cloning. They change one minoot detail, or a material that the product was made with and they are not liable for any copywriting. It's complete bullshit I know, but eBay allows people to sell items like that without giving a flying fuck, that's why I avoid it
Hakim Mohamad in my opinion it is counterfeiting I 100% agree with you....
Hii i was just wondering was the serial stap right is it like literally stamp lile engraving type of stamp to the keihin body?
A scammer treats you better than the regular sellers on eBay!
Hilarious! Can't make this stuff up! :D
Sudco is a "scammer"? HUH? Premier name in carbs for DECADES!
Try on both carbs and make a video comparing how well they each work
Thats good idea!
That's even a great idea!
You should do a comparison on both carbs to see if there is any difference. LIKE if you agree.
Justin Flynn I would understand with something like a turbo, but a carb seems like it would be harder to break like that.
bingo chinese stuff is like a bic lighter. if it doesnt made in japan its no fukin good.
Lol probably a reman
China is a copy cat of Japan in terms of manufacturing - but before Japan copied the Chinese culture so it's even.
Agree
Thank You for the heads up! Great video. I feel your frustration.
I got a genuine 38mm pwk carb but the jets in it had no markings at all which is the not ginuine pwk so wtf is up with that?
Awww man don't leave us hanging like that! I wanted to see it working :/ Great video series anyways!
Me too! But didn't want to install anything until the dust settled with the transaction and I knew whether or not I had to send the first carb back. So I had to make a choice after I got the new carb: Install the carb and fire it up, or edit the video. Hearing it run would've been more fun, but I wanted to get this published. Thanks for the comment.
Can't wait for the video where it goes on
Adam hahah😂
what's the difference I have a fake one on my Yamaha 225 moto
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Your channel is awesome! You have great presence, personality, and skill!! I look forward to all of your other "cheap builds"!! Keep them coming!! and get a sponsor!
Looks like he tried to pull a fast one on you, but when you called him on it he sent you the right one. If you didn't call him on it he would have just let you keep it.
I hope not! It sounds like a good old fashioned bait and switch to me.
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This happens a lot with Ebay fakes. I have even received orders where I bought 5 of something and 3 were fake and 2 were real.
mrlithium69 I have never gotten anything fake on eBay. Yea on automotive type stuff, especially carbs and carb kits there are tons of China copies.
mrlithium69 Same. I know it sounds naive, but a good bit of the time the seller really isn't trying to get over on people, which makes it easy for it to happen. You'd be surprised by how many people sell stuff that they simply saw they could get for cheaper than the price they see it selling for and have no actual knowledge of the product other than the specs and images the Chinese exporter gives them, so when they order say 1000 maybe they get real ones the first time, maybe not even, but they look like the picture they're shown on the exporters website or digital catalog so they assume they're "as described" and post them up. If the seller shipped a real first batch, the next batch they either grab from someone else, or the Chinese vendor they've been using just peppers in a few fake pieces or a fake batch here and there to increase margins, which are then mixed in with existing real(or always fake) stock, and they're still none the wiser because they know nothing about a specific brand of transistor, carburator, USB charger, cellphone battery, etc. and usually have too many products to care to research the ins and outs of them all, so they sell them and usually are the ones that get screwed in the end because you will always be able to get your money back as a buyer on eBay if you're sold something fake. Chances are they can't get their money back from the shady Shenzhen vendor that sold them the shit though so they're hit with negative feedback, a strike or possible suspension, and a huge lot of fake shit they bought for genuine prices and can't off load to anyone.
This is why when I sold online I sold only things I knew, or designed and manufactured myself and never tried to have hundreds of listings at once that way I could vet all of the products I sold and keep my outgoing packages at a low enough volume to personally check every items condition before packing it.
Chris Carr Very good point. You never really know what overseas vendors are going to send you. I have seen a lot of shady stuff like this. I guess it's just the price you have to pay when doing business with overseas companies. Sad but true.
Still a scam to bait and subtle switch you. Sounds like they obviously hoped you wouldn't notice the fake and there's enough profit in passing the fakes until someone notices. If there wasn't so much time into this it might be interesting to see how the fake works compared to the real.
A man of principle is always good to see. Thank you for your upload , it was entertaining and contained worthy advice.Rebuilding shagged bikes is an addictive hobby...I'm hooked ! cheers and all the best.
What kind of carb would a 1975 175 cc 2 stroke kalasaki take
And this is why I don't buy anything from ebay any more. I got sick of being sent fake goods or finding out the used item was in worse condition than advertised or even worse just never turned up. I know there are some honest sellers on there but not enough of them.
Now go and treat your wife to a nice meal but not one from ebay!!!!!
lol ebay pizzas "item not as described"
Getting to the point your have to be careful on Amazon, too. Lots of knockoffs all over the place these days.
I gave up on ebay for the same reasons. Got a few bargains but that one purchase for 100 bucks that is worth 0 when you get it eats up all you saved on previous bargains.
Actually, thank you so much for showing us this. I don't know if this is quite naive of me, but I would have never guessed buying something like a damn carb wold be something I'd need to watch out for. Thanks dawgy dawg
Nothing is sacred, not even motorcycle carbs!!!
The patents are expired on most of these parts, so there is no infringement.
Truth is, if you want original, buy from OEM supplier, going on ebay to get something for lowest possible price is simply asking for reproduction parts. That's right its call "reproduction", just like you can still buy new fenders for 1960 chevy, they are reproduction, not counterfeit.
It's only counterfeit if it's made without permission from current patent holders. Once patents expire, anyone can make the part.
A U.S. utility patent, is generally granted for 20 years from the date the patent application is filed; however, periodic fees are required to maintain the enforceability of the patent. A design patent is generally granted protection for 14 years measured from the date the design patent is granted.
In Japan, a patent is granted for 15 or 20 years / though without re license payment it expires automatically at 10 years, which corresponds to the length of time the manufacturer is required to provide/supply replacement parts, much like in USA.
So quit your fake whining, you set out to buy cheap, and you got it. And nothing you have done shows that the original is better than the reproduction, and quite often reproduction is better.
Have you ever heard of this country called China. They fully disregard patents. FYI.
@@paulsoul9585 You are so un informed. China files more patents per year than any other country, and it's projected to increase to the point where they file more than the next 5.
You can be anti China all you want, but it doesnt make your thoughts true.
Hello ,i m from Argentine .I have a fake mikuni 22 in a go kart with a 6,5 hp clon engine wich size of two jet i have to put ,thanks
Damn man, I'm totally with you on this one!
I'm like you on these type of things and am a man of my word and also value people with principles and totally hate people without them.
People that have no regards and decency to sell exactly what they advertise, might as well jump off the highest building they can find, they won't be missed among us.
Like you said, might have been an honest mistake, or just a failed attempt from them to try to scam someone that really would not be able to tell original from fake. Who knows right!?
Anyway, enjoyed the video a lot as usual and keep them coming. :)
thank you for the kind words, glad you liked the video!
Im to cheap to buy something for the name... my favorite thing on ebay search cheapest first lol
SgtPiggie ive bought a cheap knock off go pro and it was supposed to do 4k was only vga which is junk... but i did buy a akaso go pro knoxk off for 35$ its actually really great camera i use it in my videos all the time
I put a cheep eBay non original carb on my honda xr400 after a few years it seems to be working fine (I knew it was a non original replica when i bought it, i just wanted the cheep price tag). Is there a reason not to go with the cheaper eBay ones?
the carburetor with serial S65A2 HHV It's good?? work okay? the price?. thanks for video
The two dead carbs? One thing that seems to kill older carbs like this in hard todiagnose ways is that there are lots of little O-ring seals in there around the base of the jets etc that don't tend to come in carb rebuild kits. Eventually they perish & let air and/or fuel through. Strip one of those carbs down to component level & you'll surely find some little rubber seal deep inside that have gone bad that you can source replacements for... there's not really a lot that can go wrong with the metal bits of a carb...
Ken Haylock this^ these carbs do not wear out.
I've never been able to not order a complete carb rebuild kit
A couple of videos ago I suspected that, and replaced a gasket/oring for the jet block hoping that would fix it. No change though. But who knows, there could be something else in there.
There will be... look for little tiny O-rings that stop fuel from the float bowl leaking in to the combustion chamber...
Yes, the only reason you need to buy a whole new carb is if it's missing. lol
it's not fake just not OEM
Bill There’s fake Sudco carbs out there too. He needs to check if his piece is fake Sudco. Sudco has a good page on how to check if it’s a fake Sudco
Whenever someone says “I’m going to try and make this short” they then contradict themselves. You didn’t disappoint me.
Now I'm wondering if the OEM standard carburetor that I bought a few weeks ago is actually a working carburetor or a replica
You need to post more I get stuck into your vids then u dont post it makes me anxious
Logan Holden Same!
Sorry about that, I'm trying to step things up
Logan Holden has a fever, and the only prescription is more Jennies garage
He tried to scam you but he failed badly !
Bro watching just 1 video got me hooked great content! Keep it up
Having a problem with my KDX 200, carburetor float keeps jamming up on me. Anyone try a fake carb? How do they work?
I’ve bought several clone carbs from eBay. For weed eaters, generators and snowblowers. They have all ran great.
I really miss my KDX200, I’m an old man now and don’t heal like I used to so I gave it up. It was an awesome woods bike!
" For weed eaters, generators and snowblowers."
None of those applications have a carburetor 1/4 as complicated as a PWK is. You can probably get away with Chinese knock-off on those, but a dirtbike? Not work trying.
Matt Brown not on a bike
@@immikeurnot alot of lawn equipment carbs have more parts than power sports carbs more gaskets and diagrams. Dirt bike carbs are simple
If you buy something for half price on eBay of course its gonna be a chinese copy. But they work fine. Honestly i would never buy a brand name carb anymore because the chinese ones work just as well. Ive used many of them, for 1/3 the price thats unbeatable. Carbs in operation are pretty damn simple. Unless something was assembled wrong it'll work just as well.
Have you checked the website to see if there was a sub category for replica parts?
If it works and is part for part identical. What’s the difference.
Put them on blast, give out the seller, so we know who to look out for. Overseas they don't have copyright infringement laws.
Sorry man, but a "replica" that has "Keihin" stamped on it and is not a Keihin is ilegal anyways. The seller shouldn`t be selling that. A replica has to have a different brand if is no made by them.
Sebastián Cantarelli China does not have the same manufacturing laws as America so they can copy whoever or whatever they want and eat away with it.
Sebastián Cantarelli hey bro send me the other one this my address 192 widgeon drive Leesburg Georgia 31763 I don’t care which one pls
Hey I have an old 125 4 stroke that I was cleaning the carb on and it seems to be starting up real good but my carburetor vent hoses are straight PISSING gas when I reconnect my tank and turn on my fuel petcock . What do you think is going on that so much fuel is flowing right out my vent hoses? It feels like I did something really stupid that I'm forgetting, but I can't think of anything! I have my jets back in place and everything seemed to be tightened down real good. Any advice would be much appreciated, thanks your videos are awesome and funny as hell
so if you want to buy a genuine keihin, where would one go '?
"We all have our impossible dreams." Hahahahahaha
How do you know it's no good until you try it. It could work good
Its not what he paid for.
It might work fine, I hope he breaks it down more part by part and also test the bike with both once he has the bike running right. Maybe the fake is fine...I would buy OEM myself unless someone I knew swore a knockoff they used works just the same.
James Hatfield that is not the point ...a 22 caliber may kill your deer but you bought a 300mag .and received the 22...
I think most people that doesn't got the point just dont want to get the point. So I guess U like to pay full price for a counterfaith Rolex even knowing a counterfait or replica Rolex is illegal.
Where did you get the genuine PWK Carb? I need one for my RMX250
My question is, why didnt you rebuild 1 of the 2 originals you had?
I buy new carbs on ebay all the time for lawn mowers dirt cheap, I don't care if they're real or replicas they always work perfect.
Horsepower Garage Holes, hoses, o-rings and needle valves. They're not rocket science right? It's just a beat up ol motorcycle anyways. His wife should smack him on these videos once in awhile. It's not like an old Harley or an old Indian bike. She could poke him with a knitting needle.
I'm with you on getting stuff cheap, but this one was priced like the real thing, and advertised as same. Thanks for the comment.
A lawnmower engine and motorcycle engine are very different. And its not what he paid for
Wrong there not very different they both work the very same way
they r not the same, and dont perform like oem. my brother bought and aftermarket one, just to take it off and put original equipment on.
it's a genuine @kehin carb just not a factory kawasaki genuine carb . different .
can anyone tell me what that "pwk" means on carburators
are the engin still work if you install fake carburator
There’s nothing wrong with the replicas I’ve put them on 3 different bikes I’ve had and they all worked perfectly
he didnt pay for a replica.........
I'm guessing you either have never bought anything made in China, or you've never bought anything made in America. So just to let you know, things made in China are nearly always junk! Sunglasses, shower nozzles, carburetors, whatever. Junk!
@@scarharting5577 Dont wanna break your heart but most shit is made from China. Even when it sometimes says made in Italy or something like that they mean its just assembeld in that country. While the equipment is actually from China.
@@scarharting5577 Including the keyboard you just typed that sentence with! Seems as if your keyboard works fine!
So you didnt return the first carb? Hmmmm
They didn't ask me to. I can't say what their original intentions were but they were total superstars about making things right.
They probably don't want it back. The fake items cost only a tiny fraction in China of what you pay for them from your local importer, so they're running huge profits on them anyway.
Jennies Garage so in other words, you will keep it and use it down the line and five years from now there will be no complaints. I don't bother with eBay because of this, it's a gamble even with due diligence.
He hoards engine stuffs... why do you think we never heard what happened to the generator he fixed? I think he should have donated to a storm/hurricane victim who really needed it.
Well first off. I would like to thank you for the wealth of knowledge you have shared in your videos. I just recently stumbled on to your channel and have been utterly addicted to it. I started know absolutely nothing about motorcycles. So your shared experiences have helped in my shopping decisions about one. I have not yet purchased one because of shady dealings with sellers. Which you have a video for almost every problem they said were not problems without dropping the the price on the bike. I am now hoping that you stumble across an 08 Suzuki forenza so I can getting the one in my yard running again I thank you. Hope you keep it going.
Yeah but if it's counterfeit does it still work or is there nothing inside the carburetor I don't care about serial numbers would the carburetor work if you bolted on your motorcycle
Does it work? Like I didnt watch the previous video are You trying to restore this bike? I mean if I bought a cheap part I would assume its a knock off and as long as its work how I need it too then I figure its a good deal
Dose it still carburet?
Jeff Liggett who cares...its not what he paid for
he switched to fuel injection after all this drama!
Legit laughed out loud @ "we all have impossible dreams," response to wife wanting a nice dinner haha, such beautiful comedic timing you two have... incredible chemistry. Keep making vids, thanks!
After the generator Dx/Tx and this >>> subbed
But does it work good? I have had some clones that worked amazingly
so i need a carburetor for my pocket bike but now that i’ve seen this i don’t really wanna buy it off ebay, anyone now where you can buy one? for 49cc
Welcome to the wide world of Chinesium....
Authentic "replicas" mainly because almost everything in America is made in china or made from parts made in china...
It will probably work...but will go bad in 1/4 of the time
P.S. they will bend over backwards to make that "bad review" go away...their bread and butter is that "rating" they have...if it goes to low they get pushed down in the search engine
@Jennies Garage, just wanted to add; having an website is just another level of scam. They're getting smarter too ;)
Cant for my life remember now, but just watched something similar happened to a guy ordering something to his quad, and they had a "legit" website, but after he done a website review search he found out like 18/20 negative ratings for it "buyer beware".
btw.. Really dont like what YT have become, unlike others (you:D).. but what I just wanted to say is that I really miss you guys. Can't wait for even like an Shasta update or whatever.. 🤔😇👄
When you were holding them up side by side, all I could think of was Medusa Carburetor- lol
Hey man, I love watching your videos. I'm a bike guy too and I'm trying to get fully in depth with Enduro and dirt bike builds. I currently own a 2006 Zongshen LZX-200GY. It's the Chinese imitation of a Yami TW 200. I need a carburetor tho. Can you please let me know the company you purchased your carb from? I can only find knock off Yami carbs.
"lots" haha your wife is fun.
I can see his wife just sitting there like omg this is my husband 😒🤣
how much was a rebuild kit ?
Where did you get your original keihin???
To everyone saying if it works it's no big deal, IT IS he requested a genuine original part! if he wanted cheep the ya it works it works. He paid for real stuff he deserves to get the real stuff! Same reason a kit car isn't worth what the real car is worth it's not the same, it's not real!
Love the vids, keep up the good work
the86125 but if it was a mistake than bfd. Give them the chance to resolve the issue BEFORE you try to get an internet lynch mob going.
Thank you!
lawnmowerdude he did, that's why he made the video in this fashion.
the86125 he said right on the video he picked the cheapest one, it's his own damn fought for being a cheapskate.
What did you expect?
jdattaway he expected what he paid for. When u can buy an genuine for 100$+ but receive an aftermarket you could have bought originally for a 1/3rd of the price... can you see where hes coming from?
hi guys, i want to know if that fake carb. work like original or is beter :D coz i see some biger hole on the fake 1 :D
Well did you install the new carb yet? Any feedback?
I feel sorry for the wife... couldn't imagine dealing with him every day
Lol
Someone handy and capable with principles. She's got a tough situation there.
They sound like the best couple. I see that they understand each other without words.
I think Jenn should start her own channel!
yes he seems like a cry baby
Bro I care good video
sooooooooooooo would the knockoff carb, work ?
Was looking for a cab for my 05 Yamaha dt125re and I had spoke to a few people that had bought mikuni carburetor and ended up with Chinese knock offs they worked . but if your paying good money for something you should be getting what you ordered not a knock off ? I have put on a full dep exhaust system on my 2005 Yamaha dt125re I stay in the UK can you help me out with a company where I can get main jets for my mikuni cab would be a big help
that serial number your looking for refers to OEM, does not mean the unit you got is fake....i bought a new 39mm for my CR500 direct from Australian distributor and it had no numbers on the fuel bowl.
MrKdr500 well done you bought a fake.
If it works and you Can get some of your money back then I don’t see an issue. That’s what I would do personally is just say listen it’s clearly not real so I am willing to pay only the amount that one like this would go for
great plan if you wanted to buy second rate parts
But they let him keep the fake, it shows you the markup they just wanted to be done with it. I had that with knock of radiators they were like keep them we will 2-day ship you new ones...LOL But I took CZcams video of the issue and said "this is unlisted for now"...LOL Bad press is obvious with the press of a button to let the video out to CZcams.
michael, where did you see anyone say anything about it being made in the US?
you are so dumb, is that why your comment is gone?
"Michel Linschoten
Where do you think the real ones get made? Keep dreaming that the castings are usa made you people are so dumb"
Did you try the carb to see if it even works?
how much did you pay for it? i need some new carb
If it works, what’s the big deal??
chris Thornhill Bcause it may be a worthless POS that breaks in a week and once you’ve bolted it on you can’t get your money back...
and knock offs (if you want one) are cheaper than what he paid for.
chris Thornhill exactly, it's just a knockoff, doesn't mean it's fake and won't work.
Just watch the video to the end :) And if you buy fake and it breaks after a week you have to spend as much to again get new one..
There is a whole host of issues that cheap carbs can cause. The bore might not be sized right or smooth enough, the slide might not move as freely as it should and cause a jerky or sticking throttle, the cheaper gaskets could allow pirate air into the intake and cause it to run lean, the list goes on... There's a lot to be said about genuine, quality parts when it comes to engines.
It's not a fake carburetor, it's a real carburetor that is a knockoff of the original brand. Also, complaining that your time is too valuable while at the same time making a video using up that valuable time isn't quite right, just saying.
The videos he makes will be monetized so he gets money just by people watching his videos,
this is why so many people are making videos on youtube to get extra income from.
Phill Huddleston its a real carburetor that is a knock off.. WELL NO SHIT!!
Phill Huddleston a knock off = fake. what the hell are you smoking?
I don't think it is a fake or a knock off. I think its real.
Logic.
Was it a real carburetor I'm having a hard time getting one mine is a 40mm carb but no Mark's and no numbers I dont even know what to get so if you can please respond
my question is, why would anyone make a counterfeit carb?... also, does the carb function as a carb? it might work as is with some minor jetting changes (sorry , that's what you needed to do with the old carb, so I know that's not an option) in short. why not just use it?
He takes a shower every 15th video whether he needs one or not....
nothing wrong with the clone carbys, somebody must be new to this game sheesh
Hey JG, Great job , But what is that Blue kids dirt bike ? is that a 50cc janwa ? and want to sell it ??
So what is the difference between a counterfeit and an aftermarket replacement?
Counterfeit is presented as something it is not.
@@jenniesgarage So NAPA Echlin and Standard ignition products are counterfeit? Was the Carb packaged and marked so as to deceive?
Okay but two hours is excessive for some pictures and a complaint to ebay. Your time is your to spend as you wish.
I took a lot of pictures.
I imagine so, lol.
Apparently, you've never been scammed on ebay. Trying to fix someone ripping you off, is not easy. As far as ebay is concerned, you're the person trying to rip off the seller and get something for free- they have to be convinced, evidence must be presented, and done so in such a manner that they can follow your proof and come to their own conclusion that aligns with yours- because the seller is doing the same thing. It's a veritable pain in the dick, as they say. Time is valuable, certainly; but so is conducting honest business, getting what you've paid for, and in this case, getting the carb you want and need so you can enjoy the bike you want to ride. So, two hours isn't excessive at all, it's markedly efficient.
B Brown I have, but I'm making light of this particular situation because it seems as easy as seeking a refund. It's all in fun, lighten up.
listen to the girl talking, sell all and go have massage Spa and dinner.
And buy the way, get
Yamaha, its cheaper parts and better bike.
Good tip to keep in mind. Thanks for the post.
I don't see what the problem was. Does it work exactly the same?