How solid are Russia's economic ties with China? | DW News
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- As Vladimir Putin visits China for the second time in just over six months, he has one clear goal: to make sure President Xi Jinping continues to support the Russian war economy.
In other words, that China keeps buying Russian oil and in turn exports goods that keep both the Russian population and its military going.
DW Business speaks with Fraser Howie, co-author of three books on China and a close watcher of the country's economy.
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#china #russia #putin
This 'expert' has never been to China in his life
More like he doesn't understand China or Russia
I feel sorry for those who bought this guys' books.
Hahaha , Yes !!! .
I don't know what he's smoking 🚭.
Exactly.
China and Russia do need each other the same way 7.8 billion people in the Global South need both of them together.
The two are welded together by Western pressure. The more pressure the West exerts, the tighter the two become closer.
"most of russia is empty and China is full of people and would want to move into Siberia". Well, most of the Chinese 1.4b population lives on the east while the western part is mostly empty. Do your research western China-Russia expert.
It is well known that China is very interested in the Manchuria, which it deems to belong to China.
As a Chinese why the fxxk I want to live in Siberia???.... Russian oil/candy is nice but that Siberia place with -50c in the winder is terrible for living.😂
It is about natural resources and Chinas development needs desperately them.
@@urimtefiki226 So just use the money to buy it, which is called TRADE....No matter what we don't want to live in Siberia🤣
@@krollpeter well known fact or simply assumed by western Chinese-russia experts?
Си Цзиньпин лично приветствовал Владимира Путина в Пекине вместе со всем кабинетом министров Китая. Посмотрите на фотографии и видео: Владимир Путин прибыл в Пекин, и его приветствует не только глава китайского государства Си, но и весь правительственный кабинет страны, включая всех министров. А теперь вспомните визит Шольца в Китай несколько недель назад. Шольца принимал заместитель мэра города Чунцин, куда он прилетел. Это был даже не министр иностранных дел страны, а чиновник третьего или даже четвертого ранга. Разница в обращении очевидна!
Blinken’s visit to China was received by the mayor’s subordinates😂
China is not amnesiac. Think of the vicious words uttered by the German Foreign Minister towards China.
@@polluxli0507🤣
@@polluxli0507 hahaha for real bro??
East Asians have population decline. It's not just China, but also Korea and Japan. China's population shrinks by 10s of thousands per year. I don't see the professor has a valid point worrying Chinese flooding Siberia.
Maybe India and Indonesia will flood Asia, in 30 years
Japan is ahead of China in the population decline and stand to have solved the problem earlier than China will. China has not yet seen the worst of their problems due to the population decline yet. Perhaps they don't even need to fix their housing crisis issue because it could all just go away if China produces another lab-born pandemic in order to curve their own population. Would be a benefit to the CCP power and cutting their own population to keep some people in power and rich is something the CCP is used to doing for many decades now. It is unfortunate being under CCP and of course the CCP will export their problems to the rest of the world, first with their neighbors, like Taiwan, SK, Japan, Russia, etc.
Every 5 minutes
DW: Russia this, China that 😂😂😂
When are you guys going to get tired talking about those who don’t even know you exist? 😂😂😂
Yes. Thank you very much. You noticed their obsession with Russia and China.
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DW needs to get analysts that aren't in the Western Hegemonic echo chamber. The world's moving at an accelerated rate while these guys are still stuck in the mentality of the 1990s post-Soviet world.
Why does the dude sound like an angry robot? China trading with Russia is just an opportunistic. The West are raising sanction, complaining about overcapacity, derisk/decouple.... so what do you do with your goods? You sell to the country that doesnt complain. Plus buying anything on a discount is just a great move. Give me a coupon for the next gas station and I make sure I bring extra containers for the fill up. lol. The more the West target China and Russia, the more they are going to be closer together. It is not that hard to understand.
The thing you must understand is that the West believes that they're the victims. The West thinks they are the good guys.
The sad part is that they haven't looked at themselves in the mirror and do any self reflection.
It is of strategic importance for China and Russia to deepen military ties. Especially since the West is actively looking to destroy them both.
WE ALL KNOW YOU CANT TALK ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT RUSSIA AND CHINA BUT GUESS WHAT YOUR OPINIONS DON'T MATTER
The Western main stream media is flatly obsessed with China and Russia 😂😂😂
Is China and Russia your Father? ?? 😂😂😂
@@Anonymas880 Is US and its European puppets your father and mother . 😂😂😂
Who is that guy sprouting nonsense?
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Why are so called china experts sometimes white guys crying
Unlike the western leaders Xi and Putin meet to discuss ways to cooperate and make their countries better for their citizens through friendship and fair trading that benefits both. That's why their effort to create a multipolar world is thriving and bringing other reasonable countries with them. That's what Great Leaders do and they will never give this up.
The great nation of Russia and extraordinary nation of China will have the strongest army and fight along side Palestine and Iran with love! It will be the best axis and will win every battle! and end the era for human rights.
Free Philippines from china
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@@willberry6434 They're CZcams is the bot farm comment section candy land, it has been for already few years in this wonderful state.
@@Ppot129 Behind them are the entire developing world
In 2023, the trade volume between China and ASEAN reached USD 911.7 billion, making China and ASEAN each other's largest trading partners for four consecutive years.. China-Russia trade reached more than $250 billion, overshooting a goal of $200 billion set by the neighbors in bilateral meetings in 2022. Chin'a and Russia's future markets and partners are Asia, Africa and central and south America with the total population of almost 8 billion.
Jesus, did a blind person dress this man....???????
This guy wearing a low key rainbow shirt and spouting complete rubbish
It is lgbt stuff!
Putin used to think that Russia was a European country until he realized that the Europeans would never accept Russia and the Russians, and that's why he got closer to China,
China too, a large number of people in China complaining Russia taking away China's territories in history,
so it's not that there is any friendship between China and Russia or anything like that, It's just that geopolitics and Western repression of these two countries force them to stick together.
No difference from US ...Always about self interest and agenda ..
What is western repression China has benefitted from this trade more than anyone in the world good example why global economy works for development, which is a good sign for the global economy for as living standards raise in the countries of development can the focus of development shift to other target countries of development and create a cycle of mutual benefit and development across the world, this might be the only working only way to raise the living standards in the world across the board in time, which can even work. A lot of optimism can be had for the global economy as it can work well, but of course the human tendency of senseless fighting, must be overcome first it to work in practice not much improvements on this department can be seen as each side still yet after so many mistakes in human history still must go through their story lines first before even being aware of the mistakes that caused the event and eventually to reconcile with them.
"Western repression", my man got jokes!
@@lazurusknight2724Your comment shows the amount of intelligence you possess 🤡🤡🤡
Western war mongers 😂😂😂
I have moved to china and i am very happy
Good now move to North korea, then Iran, then Venezuela and stay over there.
@@shinji1264 hey bro, whats the matter with Venezuela? have you ever been here?
Japan dont have future
Japan has been dying for 30 years, seeing the homeless on the streets in heart breaking.
You guys need to know my country cares about human rights much less than expansion and control. You need to watch your mouth
Canadian and American and European are moving to Russia and China
It's called mutual respect and friendship, and it's something Germany seem to have forgotten. With people like Von der lugen and baerbock, sigh, why even bother.
China is definitely a country you would want to live in. Have you been to china it is awesome to live in china
Europe is a museum, China is a prison.....Japan is a nursing home.,......
japan is better than China
Its time for these two nations join into military alliance to counter US NATO ...
Did the rice go to your head?🤔
Russia and china may learn from aukus and cooperate to build nuclear submarines and carriers.🙄
Already in play they talked about nuclear cooperation
The United States says this does not violate the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
It's in Chinese culture to stay trust worthy in friendship.
After the U.S. puts 100% imports tariffs on Chinese EV's, Chips ban on Huawei and probably many more Chinese companies, after European ban on exports of EUV lithography from ASML and EU keeps talking about decoupling...
This brings Russia, China and the rest of the global south even closer together. there no needs to ask how solid their ties would be as of right now. its silly question
Let us see if russia will replace america and europe as china bigest trader
They need each other , not to mention 160 countries have China as their largest trading partners ...
If one looks at history, agreements between various countries in that area are usually not worth the paper they are written on
DW is just angry as usual.
Facts
Nice to see you again. The people on China Update were worried about you.
The hate is clearly unfounded by good will. As a Chinese person i know taking of Taiwan is definitive, and it is for the best interests of Germany not to be a hindrance lest it backfires.
Casting aspersions ... they are joint at the hip. China cannot have Russia failing which would mean instability in the north. Isn't that obvious ??
China may be interested in Siberia because part of Manchuria is ceded to Russia, but most Chinese don't want to live there. Even though some Chinese farmers moved to Primorsky Krai to work there, Northeast China (inner Manchu) remains the region with the largest population loss in China. In fact, even the indigenous Manchu left there owing to the awful weather. For instance, the famous whistleblower - Li Wenliang was born in Northeast China as a Manchus but worked and lived in Central China.
He wrote 3 books and is a close watcher of China?! Hahahahaha
OMG you westerners are funny. That’s like my watching Hollywood movies closely and then I write 3 books and say I’m an expert in western things.
Germany's gross external debt amounted to €6.1 trillion at the end of the fourth quarter 2023, At the end of March 2023, UK General government gross debt was £2,537.0 billion, or 100.5% gross domestic product. France External Debt reached 7,650.8 USD bn in Dec 2023, In March 2024, the public debt of the United States was around 34.59 trillion U.S. dollars, almost two trillion more than in July when it was around 32.6 trillion U.S. dollars.
China's gross external debt in 2023 was $2.38 trillion. Russia External Debt reached 304.0 USD bn in Mar 2024, compared with 316.8 USD bn in the previous quarter.
What a well spoke and informative interview.
The commentator has eaten lot's of sour grapes 🍇😂😂😂😂
They are only trade partners, nothing more than that. China is doing business with Ukraine at the same time. While Germany is derisking and decoupling from China, they still trade. China may be the only country in this world which is uninterested in politics.
I don't know if the guest know but China and Russia have finalized their border disputes. For him to say that China may have interests in Siberia shows that he knows little about Chinese/Russia relations in the 21st Century. The problem with a lot of European and American mainstream "experts" on China and Russia is that they still view these two nations in the context of a post-Soviet 1990s world where it actually was The End Of History and the liberal, democratic world order is led by the US.
A multipolar world is becoming a reality..
Like a seesaw played by two boys. Unpredicable!
Can US keep Germany obedient
Bismarck, countries dont have friends, they have interests
I havent noticed any correct assumption by DW on Putin since 2022
These are the guys dominate German media? I kind of understand why German fell so quick
Self-presevervation makes for pretty strong ties. 💪
this something germany not cannot do what ever
Putin + Xi = "Puxi" 😂😂😂😂 You can't even make this one up!
Jesus said yes 😂
How come Zelenskyy not in the picture anymore
Yeah, do yourself a favor and keep telling yourself that
Ahh two desperate gangsters...One with a failing war, the other a failing economy
Rock solid
You have not been to Russia and China for sure….
Very close
Levels of western cope going interstellar!
SOLID AS A ROCK. THAT IS THERE RELATIONSHIP. I WILL PREFER TO LIVE IN RUSSIA OR CHINA NOT AMERICA
Haha
Have a nice trip
@@HuskyOwner-bl1jf always nice. Annually i go to china for 2 months and russia for 2 also
I went to the US in 2009 to stay but have to return to my coountry in Africa. Even life in Izmir in Turkey where I stayed from 1987 to 1996 was better for me than life in New York, Moline Illinois and Memphes in Tennessee.
@@HuskyOwner-bl1jf usa should close its military bases
Noooo , Majority of world's poor populations do not care about western style of democracies or systems , the poor first priority is to have food , shelter , positive developments and first of ALL SECURITY , STABILITY even if is under authoritarian systems !!! SAID silent MAJORITY , OK .
Putin and Xi proposed a POLITICAL SOLUTION of the war in Ukraine ! Please discuss this with real experts (!), bc that's much more important than someone's opinion if Russia and China will be "best friends" forever !
Lets take a look at one recent situation in the west. Last year in France the goverment decided to raise retirement age. After that the protests erupted and milions of people came to the streets breaking stores, lighting fires, commiting violent crimes, getting hurt etc. So clearly the people have spoken loud and clear, they didnt want the retirement age to get raised which should be respected in a democracy like France, but what happened? At the end retirement age was raised. Now lets say that goverment in China decides to do the similar thing, what happens? There are no protests because people cant protest but also there is no violence, no people getting hurt, no stores getting broken, no fires on the streets and in the end result is the same as in France, people in power do what they want despite what the rest of population want. The moral of the story? Western countries created this illusion to make people think that they have power even though they have none. In countries like China and Russia its all the same, only difference is that people in power in those two countries are at least honest and they tell you where your freedom begins and where it ends, in the west they lie to you.
Russia, a major power, is self sufficient in energy, food, minerals, commodities & all types of military hardware. China is deficient in energy, food, commodities & advanced military hardware which Russia can provide. Russia needs consumer & electronic goods which China provides. Moreover, Russian energy supplies to China bypass Malacca Strait choke point providing energy security to China. Russia also provides strategic support & support as P5 member in the UN. That makes both the countries perfectly complementary to each other's mutual interest.
The biggest Biden blunder of the US in blocking sovereign Russian dollar reserves & SWIFT denial has further helped both countries to trade in Yuan dumping US dollar as trade between both countries are huge but mutually balanced.
Both the countries are in a good position to bring alternate world order free from dollar terrorism. A multipolar world with multipolar trade, swap currency trades, multi currency trade, multiple economic alignments, fragmentation of Internet & messaging system is likely to take shape in not too distant future. The process has just begun.
China does not lack military hardware, lol.
@@magnaviatorThey have enough military equipment but no technology, for example,The Chinese early warning system for the launch of ICBMs was built by Russia, and these are space satellites and ground-based radars. China is a production and not an invention of new technologies
China has no shortage of anything except oil and natural gas. China’s weapons are much more advanced than Russia’s
@@GokhanYlmaz-eg7jf Hypersonic missiles, phased array radars, laser weapons. 055 destroyer, Fujian ship, J-20 fighter jet, drone, suborbital vehicle, space station, China has no shortage of advanced military technology
@@GokhanYlmaz-eg7jfJesus. You'd better pray US generals also think China has no technology. Wake up, its 2024 now, at least know something before talking
EU countries should be more worried with themselves, they are all over the place.
The colonial powers of the last century look weak.
this guy does not know what he is talking about @1.10, Russia and China relationship had been working very well improving rapidly for over the past many > 5yr. Into the next six years of Putin at the helm the relationship will stabilized further and even move forward. No one can predict the future after Putin and Xi who knows what will happen.
I saw the expert and changed the video... Not even worth it
is this a so-call 'expert'? just BS
First Principles: Dictators don't have friends.
Politics have no friends or foe but only interest. Don't be fool abt so called democracy, child. US system wont last long time, everybody is preparing now if u know abt politics
Less than USA
Alternative title must be: Can west stop meddling in Taiwan?
The hate is clearly unfounded by good will. As a Chinese person i know taking of Taiwan is definitive, and it is for the best interests of Germany not to be a hindrance lest it backfires.
The truth is not only TW, but Philippines have been Chinas bait and US burden now. To maintain US dollars position, US cant abandon them, but the only thing US can do is help with mouth. Asia is losing control
TW is Chinas bait now if u know abt politics
This guy sounds like someone you shouldn't listen to
You just said it all the problems from America
Funny how these so called "China-Russia expert" from news outlet has as much expertise about the Russia-China relations as my neighbor down the street whom hardly read the news. Literally 99% of everything he said was subjective and not grounded with evidence. If his a "China-Russia expert" then I'm a nuclear physics expert because I watched the fallout tv show.
hahaha. totally agree with you
Infantile
The man is talking totally nonsense
Germany is the gray margins of europe nearin asia
Can Europe realise the new world?
Things have changed rapidly
And Europe it’s too weak and soon weaker
❤ China & Russia❤ Vladimir Putin KGB❤
I love DW news…not for their insightful coverage but tremendous copium and delusion 😅
You are lying
I wouldn't say no one wants to live in China. If you already live in a country run by an oppressive regime and care more about security than individual freedom, China could be attractive if you think there is more economic opportunity than your current country.
When have you been in China last time?
@@claus-not-santa 11 years ago. I went in thinking it would definitely run the 21st century, but after visiting in person my perception changed drastically.
@@_0______00__________0_______0 nobody cares you like or dislike, just tell these rich guys don't come or learn Chinese pls. 11 yrs ago people were still using 3g mobile, jesus
@@Monkeyknowsnothing 11 years ago when I visited Xi Jinping was running the country, and he most likely will be 11 years from now. It's not such a long time, even if mobile networks are faster 😂
@@_0______00__________0_______0 11 yrs ago China still produced clothes and shirts. To your country, yes, 11 yrs has no difference, but not for China. Clearly, you have no idea abt this country now
Jilted lover stories
DW full of sour grapes ..😅
China and russia are partner but INDIA IS true friendship with russia
Long live russia and india
Same clown like Zelensky. But Zelensky has more Billions.
Another Russian troll just wrote that Zelensky was broke.
Not making this up.
Can't you guys get your lies straight?
Are you on jealous? 🎃🎃🎃
Every Chinese person knows Pudding is there asking for money
Every Chinese person knows everyone is there asking for money,including Yellen.
Dude Russia has oil gas natural resources, he doesn't need money, he needs a friend, ally, someone who wont backstab him the way EU and NATO has. He needs markets and China more than happy to provide him that. Some, China Russia trade will be bigger than China US trade.
一部分声音确实想要追讨部分领土主权，但是中国人想移民西伯利亚就离谱了
现在都是经济合作（控制）的时代。中国已经明确了自己在地球上的领土疆域，现在不是古代农业社会，在地球其它民族的熟地上扩大疆域治理非常麻烦而且不划算。如果喜欢土地就去宇宙开发，月球就是第一站。
@@Monkeyknowsnothing 除非是领海缓冲区或者为了自然资源正常国家谁想抢地盘啊，也就椅子这个中世纪思维的国家干得出来
China and Russia: All the world's problems are because of America's fault!
US: All our problems are China's fault!
These two camps are not so different from each other😜
Has Russia put any sanctions on any country? NO!
Has China? NO!
Has USA? YES!
Has EU? YES!
Still no difference??
China hasn't overwhelmed the World with yuans yet.
What China and Russia say is also true
Lol this guy is a joke 😅😅😅
China is more similar with Germany just before WW2 and Soviet Union during the Great Recession.autocratic regimes have a definitely unique function to counter the regularly wave of Capitalism market economy growth but it at expense of individual freedoms and rely on build up absolutely quarantine economy operations circle.Freedom and efficiency are sacrificed for stable and formidable growing.for example,Soviet Union has a lot of grand achievements on high technological industries,include aviation products and skyrocket designs so on,but most of Soviet residents even not able to buy bathing soap in lower price on markets.
Unfortunately, you know nothing about China.
As i see it China and the Russian Federation came up with a strategy years ago to exhaust and undermine US dominance
because they understood that prosperity and peaceful development wasnt plannend for them in the US if they reach a certain
threshold of power and influence. They also understood that both nations on their own would not be able to weather the storm.
And of course India also plays a important role in this. India plays the neutrality card,but basicly it is fully on board with the
strategy. All three nations have suffered bitterly under western rule and they havent forgotten this for a sec. Its now payback time.
China is building an imperial fleet with ports all over the world to project power and gain influence. If we want to balance the power we need to start building the fleet on our own (mean EU). China, is the biggest beneficiary of the Ukrainian conflict and also benefits from the war in Gaza as the SAR is turning against west. They are aiming to all traiding nodes -> Taiwan strait, Palk strait, New Caledonia, Cape of Good Fortune, Hormuz , Suez ( Egypt vs Israel). The war is draining our resources to land based war with near death industry and shreded navies of fractured countries in Europe
Then answer me whatever in Ukraine or middle east, did China start the two war? Sun tzu said "win without a fight". Every US general study the art of war, but none of them can learn that, so is your EU. Just two different level civilization
@@Monkeyknowsnothing now thats exactly Sun Tzu, you said that. Chineese imperial strategy of using barbarians against barbarians, thus winning the war without ever fighting.
@@Monkeyknowsnothing We say "when two fight, the third is laughing" not so distant
this guy is so ignorant and full of bs
Are all the world's problems not America's fault?
This expert sucks.. Western bias analyst.
There are many leverages that the US and Europe have over China, which can impact its foreign and domestic policies such as imposing primary and secondary sanctions, raising tariffs on all Chinese-made products, increasing restrictions on its lucrative products such as EVs and other electronic products, but the Number One Important Leverage of the collective West has over China is Foreign Investments. If the West starts to pull its investments out of China, the Chinese government will be very attentive to its demand since China's current economic conditions are in bad shape; thus, they don't want to become worse, which can cause social unrest.
And that's the problem. Why do 'the West' want to pull out of China? Those capitalist always seek out their own interest first. In reverse, Chinese govt. has more control of its capital market.
Comically evil countries
Unlike Germany supporting Genocide and mass murder of little children in Gaza? Reflect.
“Western experts” 🤦🏻♂️😂🤣😂🤣🇷🇺🇨🇳🫡💯
RUBBISH comments
Chiña russia are best friends they alwaysvidit each other
All your bs