You have to understand though, they didn't just poop all of this out. Warcraft 1 came out in 1994 and had way WAY less story than say Warcraft 3. There were no Warhammer videogames in the early 90s so Warcraft was honestly just started as discount Warhammer but it evolved obviously and really became it's own thing. So there is A LOT of pileup between the 3 original games not to mention expansion's for 2 and 3 and that is BEFORE WoW. Then of course there's WoW itself and the MASSIVE collection of Warcraft and WoW novels. Last but not least the amount of rewrites between the first two to the third one and from those into current WoW. Hell we even saw rewrites from earlier WoW expansion's to current day. Also you guys never reacted to the Legion intro before BFA.
It is always a pleasure to tell people that this is the simplified version. Telling somebody everything that is of significance to the story, we would be here for days (literally).
I couldn't help but laugh when you made the assessment of Illidan and said he was definitely going to betray them because that is what most of the people who know of him in Azeroth (and probably other places) always refer to him as The Betrayer.
Warcraft started off as a game with a big, yet still coherent story. Then WoW came out and all sense of plot direction got lost because, every other year, they had to constantly one-up the BBEG from the previous expansion. That's basically how we went from "we must defend our homeland from the orcs," to "we must defend out world from being eaten by a demon lord. Or an evil god. Or an endless number of other apocalyptic beings!" I loved the old Warcraft games, and I had a lot of fun in the early days of Wow, but I've long since given up hope of the setting ever making sense again. I kinda lost track of what was going on when a dragon, a mage, and an orc got sent back in time to fight alongside the dark elves and prevent the first demon invasion. It was a fun book, but did little to help the storyline feel more cohesive.
I would say Mop and Legion are the exception to that. It even shows in this video, when you see the fact it takes a bit longer to explain everything happening into it. Legion especially was at least not just a "we go here, kill this guy, this one and this one and it's done !". There was important events happening everywhere, and a good sense of flow.
@@martind5653 I think that was Starcraft more than Warcraft, but yah. It's crazy how many of Blizzards stuff started off as a failed attempt at something else.
Jaina was underrepresented but I think they didn't want to dive deep into the characters but the history itself. There are several video compilations with cutscenes from Battle For Azeroth, from her arrival to Kul Tiras to Return of Hope that sum up her story in a few minutes as they have flashbacks.
The ones written by Christie Golden are the best ones imo. Never thought I'd get emotional reading a WoW book but I did. Multiple times. Thanks to her. Jaina's transformation. The death of Cairne. Thrall's journey and how he helped the Aspects, especially Alexstrasza. So many great moments that stuck with me ever since.
Just to note: I do love WoW a lot. It says leagues about a person when I could tell you the entire history (then) of WoW when I was in High School in-between hockey, ballet, art, history, and French because dammit I love a good story. Not so much today. I still think that the old lore is the most interesting, and I mean before the Chronicle. It condensed a lot of this stuff down to make sense while trimming out parts of the story that Blizzard doesn't want us to think about (Me'dan xD) which is a good thing. If I could say anything it's that the books and cinematics are way ahead of the game in terms of interesting.
So you mentioned earlier that Sylvanas is super powerful, that is because she made a deal with the Jailer(the ""grim reaper guy") to bring him souls in exchange he gave her super powers and will free the world from ..life. So that's why in Battle of Azeroth she is so OP and commit so many massacres.
Knowing most of the lore helps in a lot of this making more sense. It should also be mentioned that WoW kind of suffers heavily from now always having to have a "bigger boss" to fight. This being because it turns out that killing your most built up villians in a game about killing bad guys in quick succession opens a pretty big gap. I think the newest cinematic they put out- "Kingsmourne" shows this as they basically have discount Arthas... which is kind of boring lol
The WOW movie was every wow-gamers wet dream. What we got tho was a shit show. Fuck live action, all we wanted was a 1H30M + movie, all done in WOW cinematic CGI. Blizzard PLZ! Btw, fuck Activision!
“The rebellion wins and closes the Well of Eternity.” - hahaha what a way to gloss over the SINGLE most badass moment in all of Warcraft lore. Allow me to fix that statement…”A single mortal orc goes by himself into the Well of Eternity and absolutely destroys the Burning Legions forces buying Azeroth Mages enough time to close the portal and stop the invasion, the mortal orc defeats so many Burning Legion the Titan Sargeras literally comes himself to deal with the Mortal Orc who is the ONLY KNOWN BEING to ever damage Sargeras who defeated the entire Titan Pantheon by stabbing Sargeras in his leg and creating a wound that the Mages targeted to keep Sargeras at bay. Sargeras then put an end to the Orc who was struck down by the Titan. To exemplify how incredibly heroic and badass this is, that orc is the ONLY non-elven statue in Darnasses the Elven capital city as Malfurion and Tyrande erected a statue of the Orc in his honor. His name was Broxigar Saurfang…and if that name sounds familiar it’s because his younger brother you know VERY well from the cinematics…his name is Varok Saurfang the High Overlord of the Horde, and his Nephew was Dranosh Saurfang who you know was killed by the Lich King…” But hey let’s shorten that extremely important piece of Lore too - “the rebellion won and closed the well of eternity.”…
You have to understand though, they didn't just poop all of this out. Warcraft 1 came out in 1994 and had way WAY less story than say Warcraft 3. There were no Warhammer videogames in the early 90s so Warcraft was honestly just started as discount Warhammer but it evolved obviously and really became it's own thing. So there is A LOT of pileup between the 3 original games not to mention expansion's for 2 and 3 and that is BEFORE WoW.
Then of course there's WoW itself and the MASSIVE collection of Warcraft and WoW novels. Last but not least the amount of rewrites between the first two to the third one and from those into current WoW. Hell we even saw rewrites from earlier WoW expansion's to current day. Also you guys never reacted to the Legion intro before BFA.
Too bad the story is quite shit when watching it playout other than the overarching ideas
It was suppose to be Warhammer game before GW refused to give them the license.
@@martind5653 Yep, I usually mention that but I seem to have forgotten it here.
It is always a pleasure to tell people that this is the simplified version. Telling somebody everything that is of significance to the story, we would be here for days (literally).
I couldn't help but laugh when you made the assessment of Illidan and said he was definitely going to betray them because that is what most of the people who know of him in Azeroth (and probably other places) always refer to him as The Betrayer.
13:00 i guess thats why hes called illidan the betrayer
Warcraft started off as a game with a big, yet still coherent story.
Then WoW came out and all sense of plot direction got lost because, every other year, they had to constantly one-up the BBEG from the previous expansion.
That's basically how we went from "we must defend our homeland from the orcs," to "we must defend out world from being eaten by a demon lord. Or an evil god. Or an endless number of other apocalyptic beings!"
I loved the old Warcraft games, and I had a lot of fun in the early days of Wow, but I've long since given up hope of the setting ever making sense again. I kinda lost track of what was going on when a dragon, a mage, and an orc got sent back in time to fight alongside the dark elves and prevent the first demon invasion. It was a fun book, but did little to help the storyline feel more cohesive.
I would say Mop and Legion are the exception to that. It even shows in this video, when you see the fact it takes a bit longer to explain everything happening into it. Legion especially was at least not just a "we go here, kill this guy, this one and this one and it's done !". There was important events happening everywhere, and a good sense of flow.
I mean, we already had, dragons demons and shit by the first three warcraft, wow pushed it further but it was already a mess
Warcraft started as discount Warhammer game that didn't get the license.
@@martind5653 I think that was Starcraft more than Warcraft, but yah. It's crazy how many of Blizzards stuff started off as a failed attempt at something else.
Jaina was underrepresented but I think they didn't want to dive deep into the characters but the history itself. There are several video compilations with cutscenes from Battle For Azeroth, from her arrival to Kul Tiras to Return of Hope that sum up her story in a few minutes as they have flashbacks.
There is "25 years of warcraft" if you want
lol prepare to be overwhelmed
and confused
you guys took that in better than most. its alot of info but its not too complicated to understand if it wasnt narrated that fast :D
I still really hope you watch Warbringers Azshara. She was fundamental in shaping so many events (directly and indirectly)
Its coming :)
Azshara is a bad ass
if you have time, maybe you can check out harbingers khadgar, broken shore, a found memento: raising a king and lords of war durotan.
this video is great giving you just the general idea, but the books are just /chefs kiss
the books are so good anyone who likes warcraft should read
I have read at least half of them and they are indeed all great reads
The ones written by Christie Golden are the best ones imo. Never thought I'd get emotional reading a WoW book but I did. Multiple times. Thanks to her. Jaina's transformation. The death of Cairne. Thrall's journey and how he helped the Aspects, especially Alexstrasza. So many great moments that stuck with me ever since.
Just to note: I do love WoW a lot. It says leagues about a person when I could tell you the entire history (then) of WoW when I was in High School in-between hockey, ballet, art, history, and French because dammit I love a good story.
Not so much today. I still think that the old lore is the most interesting, and I mean before the Chronicle. It condensed a lot of this stuff down to make sense while trimming out parts of the story that Blizzard doesn't want us to think about (Me'dan xD) which is a good thing. If I could say anything it's that the books and cinematics are way ahead of the game in terms of interesting.
So you mentioned earlier that Sylvanas is super powerful, that is because she made a deal with the Jailer(the ""grim reaper guy") to bring him souls in exchange he gave her super powers and will free the world from ..life. So that's why in Battle of Azeroth she is so OP and commit so many massacres.
React to Platinum WoW lore videos. Especialy the ones about Trolls.
And Nobel's video about Zul'jin.
when you’re louder than the video lol
NOT ELEN A LITTLE BIT CLOSE.
Space Satan Sargeras Caused a lot of Bad Stuff
Knowing most of the lore helps in a lot of this making more sense. It should also be mentioned that WoW kind of suffers heavily from now always having to have a "bigger boss" to fight. This being because it turns out that killing your most built up villians in a game about killing bad guys in quick succession opens a pretty big gap. I think the newest cinematic they put out- "Kingsmourne" shows this as they basically have discount Arthas... which is kind of boring lol
Go to Nobbel the Noble. He has videos about the lore of warcraft, even individuals.
This is essentially Warcraft for Dummies.
watch the shadowlands in game cinematics aswaell
The WOW movie was every wow-gamers wet dream. What we got tho was a shit show. Fuck live action, all we wanted was a 1H30M + movie, all done in WOW cinematic CGI. Blizzard PLZ! Btw, fuck Activision!
too... much... information.... jesus.... Love wow tho haha
and you missed 13 minutes of it by talking lmao :P
“The rebellion wins and closes the Well of Eternity.” - hahaha what a way to gloss over the SINGLE most badass moment in all of Warcraft lore.
Allow me to fix that statement…”A single mortal orc goes by himself into the Well of Eternity and absolutely destroys the Burning Legions forces buying Azeroth Mages enough time to close the portal and stop the invasion, the mortal orc defeats so many Burning Legion the Titan Sargeras literally comes himself to deal with the Mortal Orc who is the ONLY KNOWN BEING to ever damage Sargeras who defeated the entire Titan Pantheon by stabbing Sargeras in his leg and creating a wound that the Mages targeted to keep Sargeras at bay. Sargeras then put an end to the Orc who was struck down by the Titan. To exemplify how incredibly heroic and badass this is, that orc is the ONLY non-elven statue in Darnasses the Elven capital city as Malfurion and Tyrande erected a statue of the Orc in his honor. His name was Broxigar Saurfang…and if that name sounds familiar it’s because his younger brother you know VERY well from the cinematics…his name is Varok Saurfang the High Overlord of the Horde, and his Nephew was Dranosh Saurfang who you know was killed by the Lich King…”
But hey let’s shorten that extremely important piece of Lore too - “the rebellion won and closed the well of eternity.”…
PLAY THE GAME, DONT PLAY RETAIL THO LOL, CLASSIC VERSIONS ARE THE WAY TO GO
Read War of the Ancients...