Moode Vs. Volumio: Comparing HiFi Music Players
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- A comparison between "Moode Audio" and "Volumio" - two music streaming software products that are absolutely free and can run on a Rasperry Pi 3. When downloaded and written to a microSD card, they turn the Pi into a dedicated audio streamer device that can be connected to an amplifier and speakers. We have been using Volumio for about 6 months, and wanted to try a similar product. On the surface, Moode Audio has more features. However, I found Volumio had a better organized UI, and was more stable on my hardware, so I am sticking with that. Volumio is a professional product with a "free" version, while Moode appears to be entirely community supported. Despite my opinion you might find Moode better if you are into tweaking and jumping into the Linux command line (both products have ssh capability).
0:00 Intro
0:23 Purpose of these products
0:55 Affordable and Headless Audio Players
1:36 Attaching a supported touchscreen
1:52 Overall Impressions
2:30 NAS File Playback
3:00 Thumbnail fail...
3:15 Windows Casting and File Type Test
3:39 iPhone Airplay and Android Test
4:30 UPNP order re-arranged by Moode
5:15 Bluetooth only available on Moode
5:50 Volumio Plugins - better organization
6:05 Stability Notes and Conclusion
Volumio Video (Prequel to this video):
• Review: Volumio HiFi M... - Věda a technologie
Better Sound- Moode
Active Crossover Control- Moode (with Camilla)
DSP- Moode (with Camilla)
So, if you want a prettier interface, don’t value slightly higher SQ, and don’t build and tune your own gear- Volumio.
Volumio sounds better. Sound of moode is too thin and "digital".
...so sorry, but i have to disagree - some times ago (but it was this year) i was compared Volumio and Moode on the same hw (2x RPi3 B+ each with Allo Boss, after that i changed both Dacs for HifiBerry Dacs + Pro, music was played via WiFi from Nas, thru headamp to 4 different headphones) and i have totally different opinion - for my ears sounds better Moode - but it is only my own experience and opinion...(i am personally using Volumio as a cheap internet radio (because of support) on RPi1 B with USB Dac)...
@@tamasbalog5641 It's possible something isn't set correctly with your setup. Moode is favoured by many with decent audio setups. I like Moode and Volumio but Moode edges things when it comes to sound quality.
Weird, Volumio was the one locking up on me and Moode just works.
I tried Volumio very unstable...Moode is more stable and the sound is 4 times better, I have tried the pi4 using usb but pi3+ with hifiberry hat sounds even better
Tony, you just made my day!
I have Volumio set up and it's a splinter in the a$$.
Been looking for months for an alternative.
I will try moOde ASAP.
Hi, thanks for the video. Can applemusic lossless be run from a smartphone with "android" in volumio or moode??? please tell me I need to know (I don't have an "IOS" iphone) only android and in it the subscription to applemusic.
GUI of Volumio is awesome and has smaller image...but moode gives you easy equalizer and doesn't need plug in.
Your album art comments are interesting. I found that on the 1200 plus album collection I have Moode picked up 100% of my album art. Using the exact same database Volumio only picked up about 60%. No matter what I tried it could do no better. I’ve used Moode now for over a year. Just tried Volumio’s latest release and there is no improvement on Album art.
Using Pi 3B+ with Allo Boss 1.2 and I love the sound- not as good as my High end analog system but using the Pi system for whole house audio plus the deck for background and party music.
Does the Rasberry have digital outs so I can bypass the DAC? I have a standalone DAC in my stereo and want to use it, of course.
By default, no, the standard Raspberry Pi board only has a 3.5 inch analog output. However there are add-on boards for a minimal cost such as the HifiBerry Digi+ which would add coax and toslink outputs... I ended up just buying a USB DAC for my old Sansui receiver which works fine with Volumio. Thanks for watching the video!
My experience: while I was using volumio - no one software upgrade completed successfully. Each time I had to rewrite sd card with new version. Finally, after one upgrade it removed all files from my external usb drive. After that I decided to no longer use volumio. Moode has no such issues but not so user friendly especially in settings. I also found that it sounds not such good as volumio did for me. But acceptable more or less. Thanks for comparison.
Thank you for watching and commenting on the video!
Which NAS do you use? Volumio playing of NAS music is broken, only play folders not individual songs.
Or maybe it worked in past versions
Using a Windows 10 shared folder. I can play folders or files or create a playlist... Thanks for watching!
Does Volumio have folder view and if so can i structure my folders the way i want them, with subfolders and without Volumio re-organizing everything like Roon does?
Yes, I can browse folders on the connected Windows file share. So for example if I had a folder on my PC "Artists\Beatles\Remasters\Abbey Road" and I can browse to that folder on Volumio by clicking on "NAS" then following the same structure. Thanks for the comment.
@@ACBMemphis Wonderful, thank you!!!
Have you tried out PiCorePlayer vs Volumio? Be curious on your thoughts.
Not yet but thanks letting me know about it, will have to check it out... There are a lot of these types of players, when I was installing Moode Audio the SD formatting software had an ad for "balena sound" which is another one...
Can we add official RaPi screen to a Allo boss2??
Thanks for the bottom line review with no additional non-sense to endure, its refreshing and I agree, I like the GUI on Volumio better also but everything free Moode is cool though.
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
you neglected to mention a very important aspect of Volumio, Tidal Connect!. :D
Can i just connect an USB hard disk to Raspberry PI and play with Moode?Thank you!
Yes, I have tried this with Volumio, to connect a SSD using a USB to SATA adapter, and it works. Under Music Library it shows up as "USB" - thanks for watching!
@@ACBMemphis Thank you for the reply sir! Appreciated!
Anyone having issues with Moode 8.3.2 dropping off the network and has to be rebooted? Sometimes its once a week or once a month. Hardwired connection and using USB dac Denafrips Ares II
If you use music files from NAS and "only" use AirPlay for other sound sources, Volumio is far the best.
I've tried balenaAudio on RPi4B and RPi400 and only got sound out once and then through HDMI. Never on analog using RPi4B :(
But if you can live with hickups and retries, moOde is great.
After tinkering with settings, I got it to work with:
- AirPlay (easy)
- Bluetooth (enable auto connect)
- Spotify Connect
Great! Volumio demands mony just to use Bluetooth. Hmz....
I've since moved on with ropieeexl. I just couldn't handle the stability issues of volumio anymore! Also it was slow and it's UI experience compared to Roon was a non starter.
Same here, RoPieee XL is the bomb! It just chugs along and handles everything I have thrown at it. I tried RoPieeeXL with Roon, and cancelled Roon. Getting tired of paying all of these fees to listen to music, most of which I already own.
Moode "lost" the thumbnail of a "known" track because you moved it awsy from it's folder. Isn't that the way it is supposed to work?
Not necessarily, the thumbnail can come from at least 3 different sources (1) folder.jpg, (2) metadata in the track itself, (3) Internet database lookup based on title/track stored within the track database. In this experiment, used a track in an empty folder with no images to determine if the software would figure out the track's thumbnail, and only Volumio did.. Thanks for watching!
I just got the GREAT idea to update volumio. It simply doesn't work.
At some point of the first configuration, it stopped to save the layout template, can't start/stop a song (but still connected), webradio are disappeared.
spent 2 hourse for nothing (install, format, reinstal, format).
Volumio is a mature player. But anyone who has taken a look at the privacy policy uses a different one.
(Google analytics, Facebook...)
Greets
For a Gift for someone I wholeheartedly agree "Volumio" is the more polished option.
I myself run MoOde Audio, I did not have the same Playlist track out of order list error. (I did use VLC and also Windows Groove music)*
Have a Raspberry Pi 4 inside a Orchard Audio PecanPi Streamer (no screen) -> Balanced XLR to Buckeye Audio Hypex Nc252mp->James Loudspeaker 63Cube
->Unbalanced RCA to Two(2) Martin Logan Dynamo (Original 10" Aluminum cone sealed Down/Front firing mode 200watt rms)
Sounds like a very nice setup! Thanks for watching.
But -how do they sound?
They both sound good to my non-audiophile ears. Initially, when I installed Volumio, I could hear distortion or something with the Pi headphone out, so switched to an external DAC from HiFi Berry and it sounds great. Did not try the DAC on Moode. Since making this video, Volumio added an account requirement for using plug-ins, even on the free version, so in the future will probably take a 2nd look at Moode or elsewhere.
I've tried both. Moode sounds better than Volumio. I have all my CD's on a USB stick in ALAC format ripped by iTunes. Moode upgrades the decompressed 16 bit audio to 24 bit before doing any volume adjustments. Volumio does volume adjustments on the original 16 bits and sounds awful (Volumio even warns you that sound quality will be degraded if you use Volumio's volume control). This may not be the case for the paid version of Volumio but I am not willing to try it. (Raspberry PI 3B using USB output to a Cambridge Audio CXA-61 Amplifier)
"Moode upgrades the decompressed 16 bit audio to 24 bit...." Sigh, are you really that stupid?
As an owner of a high-end audio system, I meticulously attend to every detail of my setup. This meticulous approach led me to the Raspberry Pi, where I discovered that Moode software outperforms all other alternatives. The sound quality, especially with the Sox resampling option set to very high settings, is simply exceptional. I highly recommend everyone to experience it. Remember, a proper setup doesn't just require a power supply; it also demands high-quality ancillaries like network and USB power cables of high-end caliber. The soundstage is profoundly expansive, offering a 3D depth that stretches far and wide. The instruments are rendered with exquisite clarity against a velvety dark background, creating a tangible space between them, embodying the true essence of high-end audio with its rich and immersive qualities.
Uhm... Ethernet and USB are both digital. Having a better cable will make no difference to audio quality. Either all bits make it, or none do.
@@IPlayGames3 This is just your opinion, based on limited experience, poor understanding of physics, and so on. There's no need to be proud of it and tell tales to knowledgeable people.
@@vadimboris3820 ok what's you're proof?
Volumio is pretty darn good.. especially for the price 🤣
Yes, free is a great deal especially if you have a Rasperry Pi that is just sitting there not doing anything. Thank you for watching!
Moode is better
In my opinion Volumio is way to much into making you buy into their subscription. I really dislike being constantly forced / reminded to try features that are "sorry subscription only" - ok fine then don't show me that shit to begin with. The UI is way less streamlined then Moode - there's a third contenter to the piCorePlayer (and max2audio) - both being based on LMS should be warned about: LMS has been officially discontinued.
IF you want to have a working setup in a few months down don't use any of them (I mean no piCorePlayer and no max2audio). Especially when it comes to Online-Radio ...
TLDR: I can only recommend Moode for a "smooth" experience that just works ... despite its downsides / limitations.
And for what all this crap software?Laptop and a very good dac can do better!!
It does not, tried so hard, with paid optimizators and even custom made Hi-Fi/audiophile OS's. RaPi 4 + Moode +passive cooling + linear PSU + SSD storage for 300$ total gives me the best SQ.