Being a Civil Engineer Vs. an Architect
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- čas přidán 30. 10. 2020
- Both civil engineers and architects are involved in planning and designing structures. However, a civil engineer will concentrate on making sure the structure will be safe and be able to endure everyday and extreme conditions, while the architect will focus on the aesthetics of the structural work, as well as concentrate on the look, feel, and functionality.
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Basically an architects dream is a civil engineers nightmare
And architects dream without civil engineers is impossible thing to do
Just dreaming is not enough. Bringing a structurally strong and a aesthetic building is important. Without civil engineer there is no building.
@@kaviyabalasubramanian2045 this is misleading architects can build also just not at large scales lol.
Stop with these stereotypes
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So architects are dreamer and civil engineers make dreams come to reality... unsung heros...
Not accurate
Architects gain fame, civil engineers gain accidents.
@@unitedbeast6614 nah, what he's saying is accurate
The truth !
Nah bro architect have building structure, building code, safety, physic and math class too they know what is possible and what is impossible. We deal with more shit that just drawing and imagining a house.
Let's also keep in mind that the construction workers had took a great part in the project. Because without them their plans would not be possible.
yes, they are all a team. They all need each other
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Thats why they hire workers for it to be erect, they are compensated, after the work, they have no liabilities,no taxes ,no stress.
Let's not judge such things as how people are doing in comments... Both work deserves respect😊
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Probably an architect
@@rat7570 architect is loser,
@@rat7570 lmao
architects don't just put "aesthetics" they DESIGN. Man people who arent into the field have no idea how much thinking is put in every single space we make. When i design i have to think about the plumbing, electricity, the structure, how the space will feel, the climate, the materials, and a lot more. Only mediocre architects go around throwing stuff without thinking in all the other fields that need to work together
Exactly! Thank you. Any Architect would know that but sadly and weirdly, i dont think ‘civil mentors’ do
He said it precisely architect asthetics , look feel and functionality. Why you getting salty ? Architects are actually overrated because to make design is not that difficult as implementing one. Architecture is an art , construction is science. Ofc architecture is not easy. It's competitive and compelling job. But to say it's difficult than constructing is nonsense. It's the construction guys who coordinate all . We can evaluate architects to fashion designers .
@@MrVarunparmar its okay, i blame your ignorance for what you’re saying dear! Architects understand what we are talking about.
@@katiamrad9638 You didn't get my point. But meh , everyone knows where the real effort is. U can live in ur bubble.
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The comment section really shows how unaware people are about the construction industry. Nonetheless, the video was very accurate. When designing a building, making it structurally sound is just as important as making sure it functions properly. A project can completely fail if either engineers or architects fail to do their jobs properly. At the end of the day, even though both architects and civil engineers have to adhere to strict rules and regulations, every project is different and requires innovative problem-solving.
Wait what. No. The architects not only focus on looks and aesthetics. They make sure all clearances for engineering aspects work in 3d space (mechanical, structural, plumbing/sanitary, etc.). Structural isn't only the technical part. The architects manages all these technical parts to make it work.
Together with all these technical aspects, the architect is the only one who considers aesthetics.
Exactly. Architects must know a bit of everything to make it work. But engineers take responsibility to make the structure work.
Yeah, it isn't just aesthetics, but some architects talk like they could do everything and they can't (when it comes to structure and these things that are more civil engineering stuff). That's really nonsense and disrespectful because they are like: "we can do all that, so... Why civil engineers?". I literally heard that from an Italian student when I studied at an architecture faculty in Spain (exchange program). I was like "girl, I study 3 times more than you when it comes to structure design, soil mechanics etc... what the hell is wrong with you?" XD But of course an architect can work with that too IF he decides to do a master degree about that or more studies.
Idiot,architect is waste if there's no engineer you idiots man..Architect can't do what engineer does but engineer can do what architect does idiots, bubuuuuuu
@@rafaellecavalcanti9446 I usaly hear civil engineers saying they should phase out architects tho
@@mr.bantozay1783 huh
A structurally strong building with unmanaged function and space is still a failure as a building.
Civil and architects work do overlap but their work and practice are completely different things.
Stereotypes are cringing me out in this comment section.
for real lmfao these people in the comments def did not pass the vibe check
architect beta
Architecture and civil engineering are like both sides of a coin, both depends on each other, so instead of blaming do respect, that's what wise people do.
The comments section was boom😅😅😅😅 Architects vs Civil engineering...as an aspiring architect, I believe both deserve credit coz they simply complements each others work.👍👍👍👍
I'm glad my architecture course in my uni is really diverse so I actually know a lot of construction and structural knowledge, I just got taught metallic structures (a los of physics) last semester and it's amazing, I make make structurally sound bridges now which is cool.
Please tell me you don't need to be excellent in maths and physics to be an architect 🙏🙏🙏🙏😢. Because I would really like to be an architect but I really struggle in those areas
@@lExN34 in b.arch there is maths and physics which the subject known as structure
@@travellover6674 Thanks for your reply. Is the structure subject manageable enough for someone who is average in maths and physics?
@@lExN34 same here bud, I’m currently aiming to be an architect but I’ll take anything related to construction
But the physics side of things in construction/architecture really freaks me out cause I’m terrible at it
But hey cheers with hard work and determination surely it’s possible 🤷♂️
hey which uni do you go to? I'd love to know!
ALLOW me to tell whosoever that is trying to join architectural engineering department that it is hard, tiresome but fun.... if you love and are interested in it, you’ll persevere through it and succeed.. it only takes commitment ❤️💯 it’s such a beautiful career tho
How about as architectural designer? I would like to be one in future
When the building succesfull : people's says, who's the architect ?
When the building collapse :people's says who's the civil engineer ?
Jokes on you, the architect is called first
@@DoubleU-YT1 dude, the building is calculated by engineer , the engineer jobs is make sure that building posible or not to build.
I think ill learn the engineering path after finishing my architecture degree, seems interesting
If you're an architect then you're probably has civil engineering friends, consult them first and probably their number, the jokes is architect dream is engineers nightmare.
@@Kevin-fj5oe Yup thats the truth there are 100s of buildings in which the architect did lots n lots of mistakes.
@Lanslot yeah, focusing on structural integrity isn't what a building is all about. Architects specialize in the functionality of the structure to make sure that the users can use every space of the building efficiently.
as a US civil engineering junior who is planning on mastering in construction management, I will say that engineering is extremely tough and you should start it asap as the classes will require all of your time.
However, engineering in the US is different from other countries so it might be easier if your not from the US, however if you dont go to school in the US for your civil engineering degree then you cant work as a civil engineer in the US.
@Lanslot I mean idk what your getting at besides that architecture can also be difficult, which I agree on. I have some friends who are architecture majors.
As far as other engineering in other countries, I am speaking from the fact that you literally can not design structures in the US if you do not have an accredited engineering degree (which I believe is only available in the US) as well as taking the PE exam and having a license for it (which is only available for people who have lived in the US for at least a year, I believe).
I don't know where your from or how long your schooling will usually take (3, 4, or 5 years), but in the US we have 4 years of engineering school (at best), with my freshman year being 2 classes on intro to engineering, physics 1, physics 2, Calc 2, Calc 3, Geology 101, and gen eds. Our freshman year isn't that intense (its the easiest year for engineers) but it really picks up during Sophomore year.
This year I had, Materials, Fluids, Hydraulics, Structural analysis, Structural design, soils, foundations, transportation engineering, Engineer communications, mechanics of solids, and engineering statistics. Each one of these courses is 3-4 credits. This adds up to about 34 credits (hour credits) for the year.
In short: Because engineering is very rigorous major I highly recommend anyone that plans on taking it to take it ASAP (before life and family get in the way)
Pursuing Degree of Bachelor of Science in Civil and Structural Engineering, and for sure the success of any high-rise building, bridge, airport, stadium, tarmac road, railway,dam and terminus to mention but a few, fully depends on structural soundness. Therefore, an Engineer holds promise to success of these structures! 💯
Aerospace engineers build the missiles and civil engineers build the targets.
@@apocritus2900 dont worry the missiles will make it brighter 👍
Also the house your mum lives in
This video make my confusion free
Thank you sir❣️
When the appearance/design of the building is praiseworthy they praise the architect but civil engineers made it happen. They compute everything, then if the code does not allow the design they redesign and compute it again, and there are times that structural engineering designs are often called as architectural design (to common people) but it actually has its purpose to make the building more durable to loads.
Not bias but I think civil engineers, in my opinion, they are underrated.
most people don't even know what a civil engineer does. So I tell them to look at any public project or any structure and a civil engineer made that happen
architects are underrated in the Philippines. Civil engineers are rather known to be designers than an architect
@@zeppypacs7173 exactly, and I find it very funny. In the UK where I live, Architects are more renowned whereas Civil Engineers often ruled out by the public, and here in the Philippines where my birth country is, it's the other way around. I think it's a matter of public education because people tend to stick on what they can easily understand.
@@monet3773 Sad to say as an aspiring architect myself but our laws are always favorable for civil engineers and always been.
It's because people are intertwined with aesthetics. It's like looking at the outside appearance, not the internal bones and organs (which are very important of course). But, remove the skin, and that would not be nice looking (so it's best that both should be together). In reality building design is a collective effort by architects (architectural) and engineers (structural, plumbing, electrical, mechanical and electronics). The architects, as generalists, make sure that all solutions are seamless and integrated under one concept or many concepts. For instance, the structural engineer and sanitary engineer will submit respective plans to the architect. The function of the architect is to check whether plumbing solution is not in conflict with structural column like a septic tank's depth (plumbing), overlaps with column's footing. On this note, the architect will inform the sanitary engineer to revise/adjust the design due to structural conflict or it could be structural who will adjust, maybe due to a very limited lot size (no other area where septic tank can be moved/repositioned). And that is just one issue the architect will try to check (architects can read engineering plans because of academic and industry training). Be in the industry and you will see that we all compliment each other, we are all allies. :)
Good clear video on two very important construction roles. Very true in all aspects.
There are many civil engineering structures that have no or minimal input from architects- hydraulic channel and chambers, Treatment works. drainage, cable support, etc towers,
This is the comparison when they work together but the real separation between architect and civil engineers is architect is the basic and prime designer of a building where knowledge need 70,% about architecture and the civil engineer is the basic and prime designer of civil engineering and public structures mostly non habitable and 70,% Of tasks need civil engineering. They only work together in large projects where all of what you discussed separates their tasks but in small projects they can work alone and separated by the type of structures.
My family wants me to become a civil eng because my brother is studying architect, but structures are not my thing I can't imagine myself collaborating with him lolz. I ended up studying what I love which is chemicals!
Civil Engineers are masters of Theory of Structures ❤️
Love it. Thank you
Architects to Engineers to Construction worker.
Archutects and Engineer - Planning and implementing it to actual.
Construction Worker - doing the impossible work coming from the two.
FYI. Please highlight them we can't build building without them also.
Yeah I’m thinking of the two
Architectural and civil engineering each profession complements the other there is no civilian without architect and no services without civil The civilian does not work to plan and guide the architect and we can build nothing unless this competence meets this competence.
is it possible to be an architect and civil engineer so that you can plan, design and have everything built
@@stefanvermeer3209Creativity and excellence in one field is better than being normal in two fields
@@stefanvermeer3209 a civil engineer can be an architect but an architect can't be an civil engineer.
Check the syllabus itself it's easy to understand.
Minimalist design can done by anyone who have transformation skill.
But must say the taste of aesthetics gives their work a wow factor.
These r my own opinions it may vary from people to people.
@@shilpisuseel2616 what a foolish answer.a civil engineer cant became an architect..its needed a five year process of jury works and an architect can work and have signature power in all over india.but a civil engineering only signing work in his state and civil engineers not have power for signing a large scale project like airport and large construction .the central government gived its power to architects.
@@shilpisuseel2616 what we learned is not sufficient is true ..its means we have to study the daily inventions in design..the modeling done by u and we have larger differences..for building anything people always go towards an architect ...not to a civil engineer..normally for building residence,now a days architects don't using a help of civil engineer...
Ok then why lots of civil engineers are not getting jobs
As a professional civil engineer with 35 years experience in public,private & industry only time working with architects was in consulting projects doing land development, which they designed buildings & conceptual site layout. All other types of projects worked with other disciplined engineers. Working in nuclear industry was very interesting, transportation most satisfying.
doing both is so tough. 10 years... but i love this area :(
People just don't appreciate all the works that goes into designing a building. Civil Engineers make what Architects image a reality, but the part of imagining is one hell of a task.
I think people who try to compete here which one deserves more are forgetting that civil engineering derived from architecture back in the 1950 architects were the architectural engineers they did both. So lets appreciate both.
Even if engineers and architecture use their educational resource but those are labours from whom our world has developed.
Respect to every labours from around the world 🌎
The architects and engineers proficiency determines how much work each do, a great architect will design a structure that’s beautiful and possible even in ways some engineers can’t imagine. When the architect is mediocre the civil engineer has to do most of the work and become the one that makes the architects dream a reality.
We use structural engineers (specific speciality) for most of the designs they described actually. Civil on our projects is typically relegated to designing site work like drainage, sidewalks, parking, etc.. Also, if you're doing small construction like a single family house or a small commercial building with stud framing, we don't need an engineer to deal with the structure- architects are able to stamp light frame projects without an engineer. Also, the bit about ventilation in the end- electrical and mechanical engineers do that, not civil.
It seems like the video is conflating what a civil engineer who designs a bridge or other piece of critical infrastructure would do with one specializing in building construction, as well as not completely getting into engineering specializations. A civil engineer that works with architects is [most often] an architect's sub-consultant and their work is somewhat less glamorous than what's being shown here. The rule of thumb I've always used for thinking about the scope of civil versus architect- civil does anything flat/horizontal, architect does anything vertical. Speaking as someone in architecture, with a brother in civil here
Civil engineering is a wide field, that's where you find structural engineering, Geotechnical Engineering, site engineering, Environmental Engineering , Transportation Engineering and so on. You just need to get a masters in one of those. This video is actually correct, a civil engineer is involved in major projects whether high rise or bridges or even as small as a house. Actually in university, Architecture students take some courses from the civil engineering department such as mechanics of materials, RCC, steel design etc...and no Civil Engineering students used to take any of their courses. I don't think an architect has got the capability to design and calculate all the forces pr moments involved in a big structure. What they do is just draw and imagine and a little of some calculations.
@@kawanulukama414 Right, but those are specializations, and require specific degrees- they're not plain vanilla "civil engineering." And a number of those degree regimens don't actually require civil as a pre-requisite for masters- some actually are taught at undergrad level as standalone degrees, others are closer to city/urban planning degrees (like transportation engineering), because they're more systems engineering.
And as I said, we do the calculations/structure for small structures that do stud construction. If we're building a multistory building (basically anything with an elevator), we use structural engineers specifically- not civil. But there's a pretty good chance you'll work at an architecture firm that never even uses a structural engineer, given how many places specialize in single family construction or interior design where an engineer isn't needed.
The issue with the video really is that it's just vague. It's more like a listicle or something you'd find on buzzfeed than somewhere I'd suggest a prospective college student look for career advice. It's not wrong so much as speaking in such generalities that you'd be in for a pretty big shock if you went to college and this was what informed your worldview of the professions.
@@kawanulukama414 that's what you think some architects do lots of calcations that a civil engineer can do,alot of universities teach that,but the hardest worker onsite is the construction workers they make it happen without them there's no building, road, bridge
If the building collapses what ever the reasons are, may it the workers fault or not, the engineer is the one who gets liable and guilty of the casualties. Say that again, who tf is the hardest workers in the project? The workers is only working during their shifts, but the engrs and archis are 24/7.
@@janmeyen8227 a structural engineer is a civil engineer, i am one too
Architects aren’t only designers, usually they Plan way more
I love your Channel.
Thank you from the video
For all the people say "architect's dream"
It's not their dream
It's the owner's dream
Some projects are nightmares for both parts
Definitely a thumbs up.
FOR REALLL!
You are so awesome.
Thank goodness
It's pretty clear that 3rd world countries don't appreciate architects, that's why most of them go abroad to make beautiful buildings for other countries. Meanwhile the engineers in 3rd world countries struggle to copy famous structures and think it's architecture without even considering the site implications, urban planning, history, aesthetics, energy consumption, regionalism and climate typology.
As someone with experience in both, if you are in doubt.
Go Architeture if you really want fame and feel like the boss.
Go for Civil Engenieering, if you really like money more than fame (you can always become a wealthy developer down the line though) and if you want to be the leader since things going smoothly is on you most of the time.
Don't go for Architeture if, you want to have a lot of money or free time
Don't go for Civil Engineering if, you don't like having people lives depending on you doing a good job or if you don't like phisics, or chemistry, or people, or money.
Oohhhh, we drew this our first activity. So niceeeeeee
Thank you for this video
Proud to be a civil engineer
Wonderful!
Why do people confuse the two distinct professionals? Civil engineer is very different from architect. Architect main objective is to Design building concept according to client brief. He leads the construction team. Civil/structural engineer on the other side main objective is to make sure architect concept is structurally sound.
There'so need for comparison. They both work together to give us the best structures that we have now. As an architecture student myself, i really admire engineers for all the complicated problems they are solving. However, architects are more than just designing. We learn engineering science too and proper space planning and plumbing. You may say that an engineer can design also, yes i agree but still, it is not comparable to the amazing designs of the architect.
Civil Engineering anytime!!!
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Civil Engineering is the ultimate solution for mankind's need. People needs Engineers in every step of their life and find solutions for their Civil lifeline problems.
"Engineering, where the noble semi-skilled laborers execute the vision of those who think and dream.
Hello, Oompa Loompas of science!"
Thank u sir.❤❤❤
good information. I liked it
Here in our country, it'll take only 2 more years for a person with a degree in architecture to finish engineering and to be able to take licensure exam. But for a person with a degree in engineering, it'll take them 5 years to finish architecture. That's because architect studies everything related to construction. Everything starts from an architect.
Exactly. But they made it look like its the opposite of this in the video for some reason
haha
Which country and degree is this?
As a Architecture student, any type of Engineers are coolest and important. 🧠 🤝🏻
Comment section---> War between BE &Arch students 😂😂😂😂
Reality of life
"Better action must start with a plan". and not just about drawing, it is the first step you need to follow to make everything in order, functionality and being essential.
Good.Nice.
The builders are thr actual heroes.
"Architecture is the populism of engineering"
- civil engineers when working with non collaborative architects probably
hope to one day become a brilliant and famous engineer 👷🏿♀️ inchalaah
Architects and engineers must work together for e better work, no architects can work alone and no engineer can do building designs that is why they are both important. Its just architects have more liability, responsibility and, yeah they get the credits for the building but they also get the blame if the building fails so..
@@run8024 Its amazingly absurd for you to think that architectural works are focused more on arts. That is why many occupants feel uncomfortable when an engineer designs alone.
@@run8024 the other way around - I dont need an civil to design a simple house - but the civil needs me as an architect to stamp his plans
The fact that some famous buildings are made from 2 people
Also I didn't forget the people who actually put it piece by piece
Architect: Function
Engineer: Structurally Sound
In my 3 years of practice as an Architect, I realized that you should find a right Struc. Engineer for you to be able to make your vision into reality. It's like finding a soulmate(but work related) where you both easily understand each others perspective & work in sync.
It is extremely hard to work as both if you want to manage a big project
A commentary, thought or reaction video to “the Line” city project of Saudi Arabia would be cool.
I think it’s very gimmicky and flashy but not really thought out.
Nice
5:03 anyone know where that is ?
they are both important.
It's amazing
Great video .Thank you so much. I will share it.
where did you get this video clips
Hello. I'm a first year electrical engineering student this year. Can you do relate it to how it's connected to other engineering profession like this. I want to know what to expect what will my job will be.
This comment section turned out exactly what I thought it would be. Always a war between Civil Engineers and Architects (most of them are probably not even in the said fields). In all practicality though, both fields work in tandem especially on big projects. But on a much smaller scale such as housing, Architects are what most people would pick over Civil Engineers.
Though I find it kinda sad that when a structure is built, most of the time, the names of the Architects are the ones being credited/honored while the Civil Engineers takes the fall if the structure fails within 50(?) years after its construction. Not to discredit the amazing Architects but that's just the truth (at least in the eyes of the CEs)
when lift taking the concrete to the up stairs, he is made the okey sign it was funny because of lift
operator cant see from there to him
So civil engineers have a much more responsibility while monitoring the construction site, working with the architect, and making sure the building is provided with things that it needs. So basically like checking the architect blueprints/work and making sure everything is correct. So I would just hire a civil engineer for good that I can work with on the daily.
Residential/other Buildings are just a tiny piece in civil engineering.civil engineering involves Water Resources, Environmental engineering, Railway engineering, tunnel engineering, highway engineering,Geotechnical engineering,etc.
Architects use heart( Feels, function) while civil Engineers use brain(integrity)
But here is the catch, there is a concept in this field called BIM which anonymously accepted by everyone to combine the works for easy work flow. It will probably take away what you call mind(integrity of building) to dust and only heart remains.
Like having the birth of calculator instead of accountant in early days.
Civil engineers will become only knowledged site engineer for overlooking the project on site.
This is not a unreal thing to happen within 10 years.
Funfact: BlenderBIM is an open source
Emotion and art are the only thing can't be replicate.
Good job
Think like this:
Architect = The Conductor
Technical Engineers = every musical instrument operator.
I think it's more like
Architect= the composer
Engineer= the conductor
Orchestra= the workforce
Just my opinion tho
Architecture ❤️
can a structure engineer also design the detail asthetic of building?
That is wonderful, I am also civil Engineer😶🌟
Civil engineer is an architect and much much more
Mast
Engineers are the builders and make the architects dream to come true, but even before engineers build them, the architect have already made a walkthrough on their designs. Architects have a really deep imagination that engineers don’t, you sometimes see architect closing their eyes when drawing that’s because they’re walking inside their design with theor imagination. While engineers shares what the architects sees that others don’t. Most Engineers aren’t capable of doing what architects can. And some architects can’t do what engineers do. But when it comes on building the design, these two aren’t really having a good time building it. They sometimes argue on stuffs, because it’s true “and architects dream, is the engineers nightmare”... and sometimes the engineer can’t or don’t follow few of the design which will look disrespectful for the architects. And i know how disappointing it is to design for so many days and won’t be followed or designs specifically on what you wanted to eventually.
Rephrase the sentence to "What's it like being an Architect or a Civil Engineer" always lead the Architect because his the Master Builder.
Everybody can make bridge standing, but only engineers can make bridge barely standing.
I'm proud to be civil engineering ☺️
Couldn’t handle electrical, eh?
Also, There are wild jokes about engineers vs architects!
I am studying with civil, and i am good at art or you can say i can draw building structure... Can i do both work at the same time in future ? Anyone who knows?
Without civil engineers, architects can only dream 😢
This amputee is in the book of mathematics in Jordan.
I always wonder how can you design something without performing any calculation.
So many people are having an identity crisis here. Everyone has their roll in the industry. Civil is just one of many aspects a building needs to work like MEP, HVAC, etc. To be true contractors and labours are the people who work on site while in actuality engineers, architect and other consultants are part of the design and project management teams. Unless u r an on-site labour or a Contractor u don't talk shit about building stuff. No one who understands and works his job in the industry will say stupid stuff like these people in comments section.
In the UK, everyone thinks the architect does everything.
am gonna take B.Arch this year and i liked this video a lot, just wanted to let you know that you need to keep the volume of the music steady, or whenever you change the volume between saying and normal video running, the change is abrupt and noticeable!
Either don't change at all, keeping the volume at a middle point somewhere, or add gradual increase and decrease in the changing areas.
like a steve vs bill who will win, but both are respect
I saw our famous bulding in baku center Haydar Aliyev center it is located city center and unique one
I am both