Wow, an Orchestrator walkthrough in which we can actually see the interface at a reasonable size. Thumbs up! I've seen people talk about treating it like an advanced Kontakt multi combined with something like Spitfire's old in-instrument ostinatos that you would find on the Albions. Then it starts to make sense to me as more than "sound like Zimmer by playing a chord."
@@BillMcFadden If anything its kinda educational. I've really enjoyed making patches and throwing stuff from Adlers books into it and then messing it to see how variations in arangements sound. Very useful tool especially for folks under tight deadlines
So I have tried this in stand alone and in Cubase and it doesn't load anything when I try to load the presets. Everything says it is all installed, it is all pointing to the right places etc. Not sure what my issue is.
Opus is actually really amazing. Patches load up almost instantly. Though, there seems to be a few teething troubles it would seem, but nothing serious, and it would seem eastwest is busy patching the holes , so I dont imagine it'll stay a problem
@@LightWingStudios After the latest official walkthrough they just posted I'm sold. As far as CC - if I didn't have so many EW libraries it probably would make more sense to go that route but I've been onboard with EW way before CC was even a thing! I just wish their marketing department and upgrade policies were as good as their actual products... ;)
Great overview. You also can create your own presets modifying existing ones or creating from scratch. I am messing around with this for a couple of days and I see how this engine can become a superb tool for composing. It eats up the memory and CPU like a monster though. 😁 It needs a $4,000 AMD Ryzen machine to really enjoy it.
I'm running this on a Dell T7910 under Win 10 that has DUAL 10 Core Xeon Processors, 128GB RAM, 4GB Video Card, 5@2TB SSDs and it cost me around $2K all in. Less than 15% CPU Utilization with 5 instances loaded up in Pro Tools OR Studio One. GREASED LIGHTENING PERFORMANCE! :)
@@LightWingStudios Amazing to have put it together at such a low cost. The video card is the least important I would think. However getting 5 2TB SSD's at this total cost is just about hard to believe.
For an ideas mill, brilliant, but if you use any of these scores in any future project, I am afraid you will have to be shot. Mind you, they are magnificent sounding cliches!
How long before we hear all these riffs in adverts, trailers and reality TV shows? 3, 2, 1...Then the “composer” gets paid for hitting a few keys on the keyboard and exporting the results.
@@blastercore1 I understand that, but everything I heard from this plug on CZcams sounds kind of the usual same Hollywood style, with repetitive patterns. I’m afraid it will comfort the composers in this style and it’ll limit their vision of what orchestral music can be.
@@mathieukmusic8143 Yes I understand. But you can customize those patterns for each instrument. It has broad customization. The presets provided are just examples of how the engine works. And you don't have to follow the same pattern for the whole piece. You can do a few bars at a time, which you can set. Then do another for the next section and so on. It's not a quick "we'll do it for you" thing. It's a tool to help composers work faster, particularly with things like music cues and such. They can be exported to midi and customized afterward. If someone has a mind to have a machine do all their creative work for them, they probably won't make it very far in the industry (or any other creative industry), so I wouldn't worry about that too much. (On another note, I don't know if the Opus Engine is available to everyone or not, but the loads times are significantly faster compared to Play. I'm loading instruments at 1/4 of the time it used to take.)
@@blastercore1 Right, but again in a more complexe orchestral music you would need to change the instruments every bar. The point of orchestration is not to have a type of texture per section, but to make the orchestra move and evolve through the whole piece. That’s why I’d rather orchestrate from scratch and write each instrument line, rather than spending hours programing repetitive patterns that I will have to change all the time. That’s the reason I think this tool is made for one specific style of music, and as you said fast cue, so not enough time to do original music. Some of us are just a little cautious that this kind of tools make TV/media music sounds the same. But of course I’m open to hear any convincing example that’d tell me I’m wrong.
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Wow, an Orchestrator walkthrough in which we can actually see the interface at a reasonable size. Thumbs up!
I've seen people talk about treating it like an advanced Kontakt multi combined with something like Spitfire's old in-instrument ostinatos that you would find on the Albions. Then it starts to make sense to me as more than "sound like Zimmer by playing a chord."
It is me or sustain pedal isn’t working in any of this orchestrator videos?
Hi Bill,
thanks for all yours videos.
Do you use HDD or SSD for this bank please?
Thanks in advance,
Christian
Was SSD for this library Christian.
Now it seems that computers will make music, not people. :)
It's an aid not a substitute for composing skills, knowledge, and theory.
@@BillMcFadden This approach applies only to good composers.
A human has to press down the keys on the midi keyboard controller. They don't press themselves.
@@BillMcFadden If anything its kinda educational. I've really enjoyed making patches and throwing stuff from Adlers books into it and then messing it to see how variations in arangements sound. Very useful tool especially for folks under tight deadlines
@@johnb6723 which is only 5% of the process of making orchestral music.
So I have tried this in stand alone and in Cubase and it doesn't load anything when I try to load the presets. Everything says it is all installed, it is all pointing to the right places etc. Not sure what my issue is.
Having the same problem, did you ever get it worked around?
Great walkthrough but I'm still having a hard time trying to justify the $495 upgrade price to myself at the moment.
Opus is actually really amazing. Patches load up almost instantly. Though, there seems to be a few teething troubles it would seem, but nothing serious, and it would seem eastwest is busy patching the holes , so I dont imagine it'll stay a problem
Subscribe for $20 per month. :)
@@LightWingStudios I already own a lot of EW libraries and subscriptions are false economy long term in any case! :)
@@CitizenChaz It's more a matter of cash flow and as my Dad always said: "It's your money until you give it to them.".
@@LightWingStudios After the latest official walkthrough they just posted I'm sold. As far as CC - if I didn't have so many EW libraries it probably would make more sense to go that route but I've been onboard with EW way before CC was even a thing! I just wish their marketing department and upgrade policies were as good as their actual products... ;)
Great overview. You also can create your own presets modifying existing ones or creating from scratch. I am messing around with this for a couple of days and I see how this engine can become a superb tool for composing. It eats up the memory and CPU like a monster though. 😁 It needs a $4,000 AMD Ryzen machine to really enjoy it.
I'm running this on a Dell T7910 under Win 10 that has DUAL 10 Core Xeon Processors, 128GB RAM, 4GB Video Card, 5@2TB SSDs and it cost me around $2K all in. Less than 15% CPU Utilization with 5 instances loaded up in Pro Tools OR Studio One. GREASED LIGHTENING PERFORMANCE! :)
@@LightWingStudios i have ryzen 7 4800h with 16gb ram... You think i use it?
@@DANIEL1991zxcvbnm Give it a try tho in the future I would add more RAM if you can.
@@LightWingStudios Amazing to have put it together at such a low cost. The video card is the least important I would think. However getting 5 2TB SSD's at this total cost is just about hard to believe.
@@DrDaab Factory refurbished PC was $1300. I picked up all 5 2TB Drives from Newegg on a holiday sale at $99 each. Video card was $200.
For an ideas mill, brilliant, but if you use any of these scores in any future project, I am afraid you will have to be shot. Mind you, they are magnificent sounding cliches!
What is the diference vs The Orchestrator and The Orchestra Comple 2?. Thanks
Sonuscore sounds better.
@@CoGAmbientMusic Thank you very much.
@@CoGAmbientMusic Sonuscore only has 3 generators between 5-6 tracks. Does opus have more generators?
@@jameseverett4976Opus has midi file for each instrument. Sonuscore has 3 arps and 2 envelopes anyway.
Try the "Mood" options in the "Play" window...they'll knock you socks off. :)
I did that in another EW Opus video in the playlist. It adds more mic positions depending on the mood.
can export midi in daw thank u mr bill
How long before we hear all these riffs in adverts, trailers and reality TV shows? 3, 2, 1...Then the “composer” gets paid for hitting a few keys on the keyboard and exporting the results.
Yeah right? I was thinking the same. These tools are making orchestral music repetitive and soulless, and composers lazy.
You can create user presets, so do your own thing, according to your own style.
@@blastercore1 I understand that, but everything I heard from this plug on CZcams sounds kind of the usual same Hollywood style, with repetitive patterns. I’m afraid it will comfort the composers in this style and it’ll limit their vision of what orchestral music can be.
@@mathieukmusic8143 Yes I understand. But you can customize those patterns for each instrument. It has broad customization. The presets provided are just examples of how the engine works. And you don't have to follow the same pattern for the whole piece. You can do a few bars at a time, which you can set. Then do another for the next section and so on. It's not a quick "we'll do it for you" thing. It's a tool to help composers work faster, particularly with things like music cues and such. They can be exported to midi and customized afterward. If someone has a mind to have a machine do all their creative work for them, they probably won't make it very far in the industry (or any other creative industry), so I wouldn't worry about that too much. (On another note, I don't know if the Opus Engine is available to everyone or not, but the loads times are significantly faster compared to Play. I'm loading instruments at 1/4 of the time it used to take.)
@@blastercore1 Right, but again in a more complexe orchestral music you would need to change the instruments every bar. The point of orchestration is not to have a type of texture per section, but to make the orchestra move and evolve through the whole piece. That’s why I’d rather orchestrate from scratch and write each instrument line, rather than spending hours programing repetitive patterns that I will have to change all the time.
That’s the reason I think this tool is made for one specific style of music, and as you said fast cue, so not enough time to do original music.
Some of us are just a little cautious that this kind of tools make TV/media music sounds the same.
But of course I’m open to hear any convincing example that’d tell me I’m wrong.
I compose but I couldnt figure out what this vid was about after 2 mins so I skipped it.