For his heroic actions in avoiding what could have been a devastating catastrophe he was awarded the keys to the city by the simulated mayor of Fort Worth.
I was trying to understand how they possibly managed to break a PT6 engine, those things are notoriously indestructible. Then I saw the description saying it's a simulator, that explains it. So realistic I'd not even questioned it (aside from the possibility of a PT6 failing), though I did notice the ground appeared oddly flat at times. Even if it was a simulation, have to give credit to this pilot, that was a great job, and if for some reason he had to land a PC12 engine out (say if Chuck Norris threw a Nokia 3310 at the engine) I'd have good confidence in him.
@@RelativeWind It is more than likely that the pilot expected something to happen. You do not book a simulator of that calibre to fly a leisurely local circuit. You are in there for a purpose. He was probably not explicitly told what exactly is going to happen, but not expecting abnormal situations would disqualify him right away for lack of intelligence.
As a newly-minted CFI, I had a student bust a private pilot checkride because I may have emphasizef "aviate, navigate, communicate -- in that order!" a little too aggressively. In his checkride, he aviated, then navigated, but didn't bother to communicate in a simulated engine failure. He passed on his retest, though :)
I went through AF pilot training in 2010. There was an issue with the PT6A having a "prop sleeve touchdown" which caused very rapid engine failure. I guess they've solved the problem since then, but it happens.
That’s a really good simulator. I didn’t know until they landed.. before long there’s going to be virtual reality simulators, it’ll drastically reduce costs and make professional sim time available to private pilots without breaking the bank.
Amazing job on this crew. Engine completed stops and they don't have any panic on their faces. He calmly turns back to airport and glides safely to the ground. Impressive
Yes. Because they were briefed as to what was happening, and the Sim instructor (knowingly) kills the engine within (known) glide range of the Airfield.
In real life nobody... again...nobody reacts soooo quickly, no one is expecting this kind of situation. I fly C-130 and when we have a failure the first thing to do is EMERGENCY CHECKLIST. PD: the sim is awesone!
very different in a 4 engine plane bro. in singles & twins (i fly a C-340) we're trained to expect it below 1500' AGL and immediately feather the dead engine in my case and get back to the airport. by far my attention on climbout is waiting for one of my engines to quit, and which finger do i pull the prop back with. it's a 1-2 second decision. Past that, if you're still low, you're going back to the airport or a pre-determined safe landing zone. there are no restart attempts within a couple miles of the airport, unless you climbed like a beast and have plenty of altitude, then you can try to troubleshoot for about 8 seconds, then you're committed to landing.
Fun fact...Pilatus SOP for this failure was originally to pick a crash landing location within 30 degrees of the nose of the aircraft until an RCMP pilot performed the emergency landing depicted in this Sim run. Originally it was thought that you could not turn back and land with that little altitude. Another fun fact is the only injury suffered in this landing was a broken foot thanks to some unlucky driving by a fire truck driver.
You know it's a sim session when it's severe clear VMC outside, and the pilots eyes never leave the instruments, waiting for that failure they know is coming....
They do however fail. I'd witnessed a PC-12 dead stick into St. Augustine about 15 years ago and it was just a non-event. I don't remember how far his glide was, but it was impressive.
There's actually been a number of variant of the pt6 engines failing, Several Caravans have gone done in recent history.Chinese knock off compressor disks made from recycled pop cans I bet is the culprit.
Reliable PT-6? I had 4 failures of these engines in 2 years on Ag.Ops. in Malaysia. Most of them were "on condition" ie. time-expired, yup unscrupulous penny pinching Ag operators. 1 was a catastrophic compressor turbine failure, a spectacular scream with flames both sides back to the cockpit, late in the takeoff run resulting in a crash off the end of the strip. Got sacked for that, thanks Bob McCabe. Another was a fuel control unit failure, total flameout, but early in the takeoff run, so rolled to a stop. Another was a serious loss of power due to another turbine failure, but had sufficient power remaining to limp to a strip. 4th one was a failure of a ferry fuel system, resulting in a flameout at 12,000 ft, over Borneo jungle. I glided down expecting a splashdown in a river, but finally managed to get it relit only 300 fr before splashdown. P n W reliable engines?? yup, if they're overhauled on time!!!! I should add that the screaming turbine failure happened on the 125th flight of the day!! After all that work for the boss, still got sacked cos he thought Id crashed overloaded, even though the Auto feathered prop proved otherwise.
@@jaydouglas8845 Then you must live on a different planet. Especially when he's sitting on the runway at the start, it definitely is very realistic looking (for those of us who live on planet earth, at least).
The high pitched whine and yelling about terrain, low altitude, whatever it is would quadruple my stress in an emergency situation. Hell, when I need to look at directions when I'm driving I turn down the stereo
Well done. I had no idea the PC-12 was a 16:1 Glide ratio. Seems like you would have had just enough altitude. In a real world adding 10 seconds before turning back, do you think it would have been possible?
@@dennisyoung4631 Wrong. Most S.T.O.L.s have terrible aerodynamics and have a glide ratio similar to a brick. They can fly very slow, but the glide angle is very steep.
I thought, "wow, those dudes spent zero time analyzing the situation. Much experience!!!", then read that it was a simulator. Lol now makes sense, they we're expecting it.
The best way of simulating what you're talking about, being ready for it, is to build in a 5-second delay in your reaction time to "simulate" confusion. My company has us go twice a year to this same facility, and that's how we do it, we incorporate a delay.
When I was in high school I had a work placement at an aircraft shop. They had a caravan (N1117G) that the engine failed and it spent 6 weeks at the bottom of lake Erie. It got repaired and flying again.
Better way to sim would make him do radios too. In real situation, he turned back immediately at failure, and never communicated with a tower, also doesn't appear to have any traffic onscreen. At a controlled field he would need to be doing more.
The pilot would probably be equally calm in oder to save his and all other‘s ass. That is what you train for: to be laser focused on the task. From the moment of take-off you forget you are in a sim. It feels totally real. You are flooded with Adrenalin and after landing even in the simulator you start shaking when it wears off, and you are drenched in sweat
20 or so years ago I was flying a different airplane. A real airplane, not a sim, by myself, and had a sudden and complete engine failure with a brand new engine. Something like 3 hours ground time on it. I was going to do the first flight. It was after takeoff when i pulled power back. When i pulled power back to max continuous, nothing. Quiet. No warning lights no nothing. The engine stopped spinning and I became a glider pilot. Immediately the training kicked in. Fortunately i had been climbing hard but still barely had enough altitude to complete the "impossible turn" back to the runway. I informed the tower what happened and what i was doing then shut everything off except master. I still needed flaps, then flew the airplane back to the runway. Once the airplane was configured, all electrics off, throttle and fuel off, and prepare to get out. I touched down 5 feet onto the blacktop. Barely made it but for the grace of God. The adrenaline and shakes didn't kick in until about 20 minutes later. Then i was a wreck for a little while knowing how close i came to making my wife a widow. I responded to the emergeny by the book and because of all the training and drilling into me the emergency procedures. I didnt even think about it..I just did it. Training works. Remember though, anyone with more than 5 hours knows the assumed risk. And, it really is rare. But, train, train, train. It will save your life. I am here today because my instructor was an ass and worked me hard. Thank you Capt. Fulton USAF. It turned out to be a small piece of fod in the fuel line that dislodged when i pulled the throttle back. It plugged a small sensors orfice and shut the engine down. It took about a week and many ground runs for the tech rep to find it. That engine flew for many hours after that and was still in it when we transferred the airplane out a year or so later.
There is no mayday or radio communication with the tower or to informe the other arcrrafts to get the emergency priority ? Is that the correct procedure ?
700’ agl after takeoff you can make the turn back and land on same runway you departed on. Pilatus makes a great airplane. You do this every recurrent training. Good job captain!
Just yesterday a Pilatus PC-12 crashed in Italy a few minutes after taking off from Milan Linate airport. All eight people onboard, including a baby, died.
They perform a snap left hand turn literally as the engine begins spooling down and failing. In reality, this wouldn't be such a quick reaction, the pilots have to determine a definite failure first. There would've been at least a 5 second delay before it was confirmed as a definite engine failure, this is too briefed and too over expected. Needs to be more of a random failure to really train it sufficiently.
It was a training exercise. We do the same thing at Delta coming out of HND (Haneda, Japan) and ditch in Tokyo bay, though one crew member works at getting an engine back, then performs the ditching check list, we're quite busy. Good training as it gives you a true hint of real world possibilities.
@@igiveuponhumanity9238 Yeah because the comment "fire fire fire fire fire (with a European accent)" is absolutely hilarious... Trust me if this wasn't a sim i wouldn't make such a lighthearted comment
Evan Forst Oh, ok. I'll trust you. Wow that's so veiled and mysterious. I won't be able to sleep. I wonde.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Most engine outs occur on takeoff when you DON'T have enough altitude for a turnaround to the airfield. Most attempts at turning back to an airfield result in a fatal spin. Generally, unless you have significant altitude you should be looking for a flat place to glide to a crash like Sully did. Better to glide to a crash rather than spin in.
Bullshit. That is just an Coward CFI Crap. There have been thousands of real safely done Turnbacks to opposite runway in USA lately. I have 2 of those iput down on runway. Short wing Cherokee 700 feet agl. with a 10 knot wind. Taught that to many students. 2 of them did same later on. One of them a twin that could not be able to "Turnaround the airport" on a hot day on one engine if he tried. He did the "Turnback" instead and no accident. He could have killed 2 more and crash over a town if he tried to "Turnaround' instead of The "Turnback to opposite". Enough of Chicken CFI's teaching only Mild Maneuvering crap instead of manly maneuvering.
outwiththem yeah..ok. Im not a FS or Xplane pilot.. I ctually fly the birds. Go ahead and try that 700' uturn at 8A6 (where I've flown) and see how much tree bark you'll eat. U-turns after failure are based upon environment and location, not excluding weight. Your advice might get some inexperienced student killed.
No, I actually saved 4 airplanes last 20 years that made that turnback at congested airports and landed safely. 25 years ago I did mine and saved my cherokee. It works on most airports, if you know it. Show me were you would crash with a total engine fail from 700 agl on PA28-180 on your place. I will show you how not to crash but land back like a real pilot. I fly gliders too. Power Dependant Pilots suck. We do Turnbacks before solo from 200 AGL ONLY.. It takes what I call the 3 C's a pilot should have... Care, Coordination and ....CAJUNS.. Coward CFI"s are the main cause of coward pilots making so many pilot errors and crashing in USA. USA is the easiest country to get all pilots license in the world. But they dont teach you a lot of maneuvers that if not practiced well will kill you. Like Forced landings on take off 4 kinds, Low and windy GRM, go arounds from flare with full flaps and many more. Only Mild Maneuvering will make you a mild pilot.
I though the correct procedure was to place the aircraft in a slight nose down attitude, set up the best glide angle and land straight ahead. Do not try any major or abrupt turns, lest you cause the aircraft to stall. Has this changed recently? What I saw was an abrupt left turn immediately after the engine quit. Comments?
A lot depends on pilot technique, for me and my Cessna 182 anything over 800 feet AGL I can make it back to the airport safely. It's good to practice this maneuver from a safe altitude!
It was clear the pilots were expecting the engine failure and were prepaired for it. Woudn´t happen in real life. But its nice demonstration for us what to do. This sound can preddict only one thing.... so no time for wasting time than to turn it to the airport.
The best turboprop airplane out there, hands down one of the easiest and more reliable airplanes that I flew. Maybe from the engineer / MX perspective, but as a pilot, this airplane is AWESOME.
Years ago, when I learned to fly, we were taught to NEVER try to turn back to an airfield if we had an engine failure on take off - it was a good way to go into the ground! Also, why didn't the guy try to restart his engine??? Even though it's a simulator, you should practice to do it right!
Fred Ferd it's a free air turbine. If it stops this quick there is no damn reason to even contemplate a restart. Whip it around and throw in a few degrees of flaps and plant it on the runway. Fuck the airplane just get it on the ground.
Hi Carl I'm sorry! I'm so bloody out of date, that I thought they were flying behind a reciprocating engine. I agree with you about the engine (I'll admit it, I AM slow), but I still don't think turning around is a good idea.
TRUE STORY - in the mid 1960's, rumors were making the rounds that a young man with a student pilot's permit (not a license) was taking sky divers up in a Cessna 182, a sky diving plane without doors. This was happening at Lake Elsinore, California, a popular sky diving area near March Air Force Base. It was a hot summer day, and a very tired, irritable, overworked FAA field man was assigned to investigate. He went out to the Lake Elsinore Airport and watched. Sure enough, a young punk kid gets into the driver's seat of a Cessna 182, which had no doors, followed by a stick of three sky divers. He takes off. A little while later, he comes back alone, lands and parks the airplane. The FAA guy goes up and demands to see his pilot's license. The kid produces a student ticket. The FAA guy says he's going to ground him, fine him, and do all sorts of horrible administrative stuff - you know, evil stuff that the federal government can do when they truly want to mess with you. But the kid says, no, and says he's legal. It turns out that when he went up, the two guys in the back seat jumped first. The guy in the right seat is his Certified Flight Instructor, a CFI, and with him on board, he's legal. The instructor then says, "Your flying STINKS! I'm getting out of here!" and then he bails out, and the kid's flying solo - still legal. The kid was off the hook, but the FAA was NOT amused!
True, don't turn back .. under 1000' agl. I can't read the altimeter but the engine failed at 49 secs, they could have reached 1000', but that is dicy and called the 'impossible turn' for a reason. Also where is the checklist and communication? I didn't see a visible attempt to reach best glide but on climb out best glide is close to Vy so he maybe trimmed there already.
Before the camera rolled - “ we will fail the engine at an altitude which will permit you to make an immediate return to runway - no need to be concerned about other traffic or clearing the active runway in this sim. No need to assess and attempt to re-start. No need to follow engine out checklist - just return to airport”. A hypothetical set of circumstances one would almost NEVER find ones self in - in reality
if they followed the checklist & attempt restart they would crash landed in a farm & cost the owner squillions of money to recover it , insurance,etc , they had no altitude
No duh....whenever the single vs twin engine argument comes up, the people in favor of single engines always point to the statistics regarding twin engine piston aircraft. They seem to forget that there are twin engine turboprop's which generally perform much differently from twin engine pistons during an engine failure scenario.
I'm going through training now in the Citation V (at Flight Safety) and I can tell you the amount of rudder pedal needed to keep it straight with an engine failure right after V1 is really a lot. I was surprised. I'm guessing 20 to 30 pounds of rudder force is needed and full pedal travel. You've got to do this right and right now or you're going to lose control of the airplane. I got my multi-engine in a C-310 and I remember engine cuts at lift off...you had better be on the rudder pedal right now! less you end up on your back sliding down the runway. It isn't much easier in the Citation V.
For his heroic actions in avoiding what could have been a devastating catastrophe he was awarded the keys to the city by the simulated mayor of Fort Worth.
lmfao!!
rofl got em
And a new pair of shorts
@@quagmirewasere stains cant be removed
😂🤣😂🤣😂
Lol I just watched this whole video thinking it was real up until the tyre screech at the end!
The pixelated graphics didnt give it away to you?
@@Rock-Bottem1982 clearly not.
@@jonhartley7445 The graphics were pretty good tho, I was impressed
same here!
@@jonhartley7445 I see what you did there.
Had me fooled, the skid sound effect gave it away for me while watching on my cell.
Well done regardless... found myself holding my breath.
> *Had me fooled*
Me too, 100%.
Me too, watching on my cellphone.
It clearly says its a simulation mate. You just for fooled x 2
As soon as I heard you had R2D2 as the copilot at 2:23 i knew you would survive.
I was trying to understand how they possibly managed to break a PT6 engine, those things are notoriously indestructible. Then I saw the description saying it's a simulator, that explains it. So realistic I'd not even questioned it (aside from the possibility of a PT6 failing), though I did notice the ground appeared oddly flat at times. Even if it was a simulation, have to give credit to this pilot, that was a great job, and if for some reason he had to land a PC12 engine out (say if Chuck Norris threw a Nokia 3310 at the engine) I'd have good confidence in him.
Pulled a PT6A-67P That grenaded. PT blade failure on take off. Holes in everything
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Chuck Norris throwing a Nokia 3310 at the engine was pure gold
ask Mike Patey about turbulence and its pt6
its a simulator? lmao I watched it twice and this whole time I thought this was real, thats disappointing
Great video, kept me on the edge of my seat! Well done.
Thanks!
He was told what is going to happen, obviously. He reaction (initiated turn) to the emergency was quicker than Formula 1 start.
Prove it
@@RelativeWind It is more than likely that the pilot expected something to happen. You do not book a simulator of that calibre to fly a leisurely local circuit. You are in there for a purpose. He was probably not explicitly told what exactly is going to happen, but not expecting abnormal situations would disqualify him right away for lack of intelligence.
Excellent job staying calm and handling the situation !
Aviate, navigate, communicate. That’s the priority and the pilot nailed it.
sim you dork !!
As a newly-minted CFI, I had a student bust a private pilot checkride because I may have emphasizef "aviate, navigate, communicate -- in that order!" a little too aggressively. In his checkride, he aviated, then navigated, but didn't bother to communicate in a simulated engine failure. He passed on his retest, though :)
Should have landed it in the Hudson
Uh where you there?
Some don't get it, hehe.
It was high enough, at around 1500. With that speed and that height it is perfectly accepted maneuver.
If you're ready for it and instantly feather and turn back, it's possible at 4-5 hundred feet!
The PT6 has been a workhorse for the Navy in its training aircraft for over 40 years. Never heard of one seaze up like this.
hollywood sleaze
it's part of the irony of sim-training. Spend the most time focusing on the least likely scenario.
I went through AF pilot training in 2010. There was an issue with the PT6A having a "prop sleeve touchdown" which caused very rapid engine failure. I guess they've solved the problem since then, but it happens.
Seems like it glided a little better than it might in the real world...nicely done regardless
That’s a really good simulator. I didn’t know until they landed.. before long there’s going to be virtual reality simulators, it’ll drastically reduce costs and make professional sim time available to private pilots without breaking the bank.
Amazing job on this crew. Engine completed stops and they don't have any panic on their faces. He calmly turns back to airport and glides safely to the ground. Impressive
Yes. Because they were briefed as to what was happening, and the Sim instructor (knowingly) kills the engine within (known) glide range of the Airfield.
"Handy" that the computer waited to fail the engine until they had enough headroom to turn and land AT THE AIRPORT instead of in somebody's house
No spoilers no side slip just the right amount of altitude.
LOL this was a sim!? I was like..”man that pilot didn’t skips beat”. LOL YOU GOT ME GOOD...
In real life nobody... again...nobody reacts soooo quickly, no one is expecting this kind of situation. I fly C-130 and when we have a failure the first thing to do is EMERGENCY CHECKLIST. PD: the sim is awesone!
My first thought also. He literally started returning same second engine broke.
very different in a 4 engine plane bro. in singles & twins (i fly a C-340) we're trained to expect it below 1500' AGL and immediately feather the dead engine in my case and get back to the airport. by far my attention on climbout is waiting for one of my engines to quit, and which finger do i pull the prop back with. it's a 1-2 second decision. Past that, if you're still low, you're going back to the airport or a pre-determined safe landing zone. there are no restart attempts within a couple miles of the airport, unless you climbed like a beast and have plenty of altitude, then you can try to troubleshoot for about 8 seconds, then you're committed to landing.
Fun fact...Pilatus SOP for this failure was originally to pick a crash landing location within 30 degrees of the nose of the aircraft until an RCMP pilot performed the emergency landing depicted in this Sim run. Originally it was thought that you could not turn back and land with that little altitude. Another fun fact is the only injury suffered in this landing was a broken foot thanks to some unlucky driving by a fire truck driver.
You know it's a sim session when it's severe clear VMC outside, and the pilots eyes never leave the instruments, waiting for that failure they know is coming....
Yeap couldn't believe a real PC12 would fail, the PT6 is a great engine:-)
They do however fail. I'd witnessed a PC-12 dead stick into St. Augustine about 15 years ago and it was just a non-event. I don't remember how far his glide was, but it was impressive.
There's actually been a number of variant of the pt6 engines failing, Several Caravans have gone done in recent history.Chinese knock off compressor disks made from recycled pop cans I bet is the culprit.
*Poor maintenance is the failure, the PT6 does not fail.*
Reliable PT-6? I had 4 failures of these engines in 2 years on Ag.Ops. in Malaysia.
Most of them were "on condition" ie. time-expired, yup unscrupulous penny pinching Ag operators.
1 was a catastrophic compressor turbine failure, a spectacular scream with flames both sides back to the cockpit, late in the takeoff run resulting in a crash off the end of the strip. Got sacked for that, thanks Bob McCabe.
Another was a fuel control unit failure, total flameout, but early in the takeoff run, so rolled to a stop.
Another was a serious loss of power due to another turbine failure, but had sufficient power remaining to limp to a strip.
4th one was a failure of a ferry fuel system, resulting in a flameout at 12,000 ft, over Borneo jungle. I glided down expecting a splashdown in a river, but finally managed to get it relit only 300 fr before splashdown. P n W reliable engines?? yup, if they're overhauled on time!!!!
I should add that the screaming turbine failure happened on the 125th flight of the day!! After all that work for the boss, still got sacked cos he thought Id crashed overloaded, even though the Auto feathered prop proved otherwise.
It didn't fail..this is part of pilot training.
this should be obvious that it is a simulator, because pilatus planes don't break ;)
There should be a TSB for that. Brake inadequacy is a serious issue.
not brake like stopping, brake like getting damaged
Oh. "Break".
oh fuck, sorry, not a nativ english speaker.
donblub mine has..
when the engine went out it sounded like the alarm was repeating "Annoy ya, annoy ya, annoy ya"
To me it sounded like fire fire fire fire FIRE EARRAPE
Very nicely done. That was great airmanship.
i thought it was real...what a realistic simulator
@@jaydouglas8845 agreed... Not even close...
@Davey Summers nothing because it's a game...
lol, thought it was real too, until i read description after watching video.
@@jaydouglas8845 Then you must live on a different planet. Especially when he's sitting on the runway at the start, it definitely is very realistic looking (for those of us who live on planet earth, at least).
So did I. But it's late and I should really go to bed.
I thought a 180 was _streng verboten_ but that's from my PPL days. Very impressive L/D on that PC-12.
Gotta turn to where that (known) firm black stuff is at....
Nicely done!! Training, training, training...
The high pitched whine and yelling about terrain, low altitude, whatever it is would quadruple my stress in an emergency situation. Hell, when I need to look at directions when I'm driving I turn down the stereo
Well done. I had no idea the PC-12 was a 16:1 Glide ratio. Seems like you would have had just enough altitude. In a real world adding 10 seconds before turning back, do you think it would have been possible?
miracle on the hudson is a prime example of that. 10s delay difference between landing on water vs runway
S.T.O.L. unless I miss my guess. Those tend to have a lot of wing area relative to their weight, hence they *can* glide decently.
@@dennisyoung4631 Wrong. Most S.T.O.L.s have terrible aerodynamics and have a glide ratio similar to a brick. They can fly very slow, but the glide angle is very steep.
@@dennisyoung4631 STOLs would have bad glide ratios and this aircraft is pretty much the opposite of a STOL. PC-12 is a mini airliner.
I can make it back to the departure runway from 700 feet above ground level in the Pilatus, which I do in the simulator during recurrent training.
How convenient, the squawk was already set to 7700. Really reduces the workload if you set it on the ground.
lol
Impressive to see this video today, 2021, few weeks after a Pilatus crashed in Italy, Milan, minutes after take off!
"this is your captain speaking, we're just experiencing a little bit of turbulence"
Pilatus is no joke. Very safe, versatile, impressive aircraft. Their 24 is proof of that!
4 million $ each
I thought, "wow, those dudes spent zero time analyzing the situation. Much experience!!!", then read that it was a simulator. Lol now makes sense, they we're expecting it.
The best way of simulating what you're talking about, being ready for it, is to build in a 5-second delay in your reaction time to "simulate" confusion. My company has us go twice a year to this same facility, and that's how we do it, we incorporate a delay.
Tapes and 8's. man that computer freaked the hell out! Cool vid of the impossible turn.
Excellent! What a fun video to watch! So much information.
The P&W Canada PT-6 is an extremely safe engine.
Ditto!
When I was in high school I had a work placement at an aircraft shop. They had a caravan (N1117G) that the engine failed and it spent 6 weeks at the bottom of lake Erie. It got repaired and flying again.
Nice Sim, I’m impressed
Thank God for simulators. That highest level of training thing, in a crisis is all too real.
Better way to sim would make him do radios too. In real situation, he turned back immediately at failure, and never communicated with a tower, also doesn't appear to have any traffic onscreen. At a controlled field he would need to be doing more.
First I thought it was real - but the calmness of the Pilot told me otherwise. Great Sim.
The pilot would probably be equally calm in oder to save his and all other‘s ass. That is what you train for: to be laser focused on the task. From the moment of take-off you forget you are in a sim. It feels totally real. You are flooded with Adrenalin and after landing even in the simulator you start shaking when it wears off, and you are drenched in sweat
The extreme coolness of the pilots told me it was not real. It would be impossible not to have a high adrenaline influx!
20 or so years ago I was flying a different airplane. A real airplane, not a sim, by myself, and had a sudden and complete engine failure with a brand new engine. Something like 3 hours ground time on it. I was going to do the first flight. It was after takeoff when i pulled power back. When i pulled power back to max continuous, nothing. Quiet. No warning lights no nothing. The engine stopped spinning and I became a glider pilot. Immediately the training kicked in. Fortunately i had been climbing hard but still barely had enough altitude to complete the "impossible turn" back to the runway. I informed the tower what happened and what i was doing then shut everything off except master. I still needed flaps, then flew the airplane back to the runway. Once the airplane was configured, all electrics off, throttle and fuel off, and prepare to get out. I touched down 5 feet onto the blacktop. Barely made it but for the grace of God. The adrenaline and shakes didn't kick in until about 20 minutes later. Then i was a wreck for a little while knowing how close i came to making my wife a widow. I responded to the emergeny by the book and because of all the training and drilling into me the emergency procedures. I didnt even think about it..I just did it. Training works. Remember though, anyone with more than 5 hours knows the assumed risk. And, it really is rare. But, train, train, train. It will save your life. I am here today because my instructor was an ass and worked me hard. Thank you Capt. Fulton USAF. It turned out to be a small piece of fod in the fuel line that dislodged when i pulled the throttle back. It plugged a small sensors orfice and shut the engine down. It took about a week and many ground runs for the tech rep to find it. That engine flew for many hours after that and was still in it when we transferred the airplane out a year or so later.
you dont really know professionnal pilots... ;-)
You mean a real sphincter clencher
after a couple sessions on the sim, where everything is falling apart... you start to connect the dots quickly. That was a fun day.
Obviously
A landing is nothing more than a crash under control. Great job
The *Pilatus PC-12* is a single-engine turboprop passenger and cargo aircraft manufactured by Pilatus Aircraft of Stans, Switzerland, since 1991.
Yes. And Cairo is in Egypt.
@@Bigsky1991
Yeah-yeah, right. And I hear the moon revolves around the EARTH! 😅
the pilots reaction to engine failure gave it away. I mean c'mon
This is not acting class
Keep enough momentum to take the taxiway Clyde.
It's a simulator
The skidding sounds like a Star Trek phaser.
There is no mayday or radio communication with the tower or to informe the other arcrrafts to get the emergency priority ? Is that the correct procedure ?
Yeah I'm not even a pilot and they were awfully calm.
Jeff Coggins It's a simulator exercise
In real life, you don't have time to get excited. Once your on the ground again though and it's all over, then you feel the jitters...
This pilot was ready for the failure and immediately did a left turn for the runway. That's a fail for me.
Not really, if you brief the failure on every takeoff, and have a plan of action for any emergency, you should be ready to do it.
700’ agl after takeoff you can make the turn back and land on same runway you departed on. Pilatus makes a great airplane. You do this every recurrent training. Good job captain!
Mighty calm pilot for an engine failure.
I learned to skydive in a Pilatus Porter named the Crazy Flamingo. And yes it was bright pink. I really love those planes brings back memories.
I was immediately skeptical when I read the title with the words Pilatis and “fail” in the same sentence. Simply: they don’t!
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Just yesterday a Pilatus PC-12 crashed in Italy a few minutes after taking off from Milan Linate airport. All eight people onboard, including a baby, died.
There was a recent crash of a PC 12. However, there is suspicion of sabotage. We’ll have to see what the cause was after the investigation.
He knew it was coming!
Those pilots earned their pay on the quick turn around and perfect landing!
@Salad Breath There was no fireball tumbling down the end of the runway so yes they did!
Does the Pilatus have "auto return" cause it looked like the yoke turned for a rapid return to field even before the alarms went off. Crazy.
They perform a snap left hand turn literally as the engine begins spooling down and failing. In reality, this wouldn't be such a quick reaction, the pilots have to determine a definite failure first. There would've been at least a 5 second delay before it was confirmed as a definite engine failure, this is too briefed and too over expected. Needs to be more of a random failure to really train it sufficiently.
It was a training exercise. We do the same thing at Delta coming out of HND (Haneda, Japan) and ditch in Tokyo bay, though one crew member works at getting an engine back, then performs the ditching check list, we're quite busy. Good training as it gives you a true hint of real world possibilities.
I need this in my bedroom lol
I don't normally say this to another man,,, OK,,, Never,,, but,,,, Can I stay the night at your place? LOL
I had to come back to see this one. That was an excellent dead stick landing practice.
The only catastrophic failure I see here is this video .
"Oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah"
Wtf
Evan Forst "FIRE", genius. With a European accent.
@@igiveuponhumanity9238 Yeah because the comment "fire fire fire fire fire (with a European accent)" is absolutely hilarious... Trust me if this wasn't a sim i wouldn't make such a lighthearted comment
Evan Forst Oh, ok. I'll trust you.
Wow that's so veiled and mysterious. I won't be able to sleep.
I wonde.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Feuer, Feuer, Feuer, Feuer... (Fire, in German language). Pilatus is a Swiss firm, located in the German-speaking region of Switzerland.
impressive sim.
great tool for when it happens...
any landing one can walk away from is a good landing too !
She responded with a turn back to the airport too quickly to not be a simulator. She was expecting it
Moral of the story: Always expect an engine failure on every takeoff.
That simulator is amazing.
Clear the warning. Damn.
No you
You may have set the squawk 7700 a bit to early
Jul79
*TOO
Cool calm and collected. Nice work.
This is a simulator
First time watching I was shouting "Land it on the road no way they'll make it back"!... Then I read the description...
That was TERRIFLYING! Good job!!!
Most engine outs occur on takeoff when you DON'T have enough altitude for a turnaround to the airfield. Most attempts at turning back to an airfield result in a fatal spin. Generally, unless you have significant altitude you should be looking for a flat place to glide to a crash like Sully did. Better to glide to a crash rather than spin in.
Nicely done 👍
Knew it was simulated. PC 12’s don’t have engine failures!
Wow 180 degree turn after engine failure and still made it back to the runway!
Bullshit. That is just an Coward CFI Crap. There have been thousands of real safely done Turnbacks to opposite runway in USA lately. I have 2 of those iput down on runway. Short wing Cherokee 700 feet agl. with a 10 knot wind. Taught that to many students. 2 of them did same later on.
One of them a twin that could not be able to "Turnaround the airport" on a hot day on one engine if he tried. He did the "Turnback" instead and no accident. He could have killed 2 more and crash over a town if he tried to "Turnaround' instead of The "Turnback to opposite". Enough of Chicken CFI's teaching only Mild Maneuvering crap instead of manly maneuvering.
outwiththem yeah..ok. Im not a FS or Xplane pilot.. I ctually fly the birds. Go ahead and try that 700' uturn at 8A6 (where I've flown) and see how much tree bark you'll eat. U-turns after failure are based upon environment and location, not excluding weight. Your advice might get some inexperienced student killed.
No, I actually saved 4 airplanes last 20 years that made that turnback at congested airports and landed safely. 25 years ago I did mine and saved my cherokee. It works on most airports, if you know it. Show me were you would crash with a total engine fail from 700 agl on PA28-180 on your place. I will show you how not to crash but land back like a real pilot. I fly gliders too. Power Dependant Pilots suck. We do Turnbacks before solo from 200 AGL ONLY.. It takes what I call the 3 C's a pilot should have... Care, Coordination and ....CAJUNS.. Coward CFI"s are the main cause of coward pilots making so many pilot errors and crashing in USA. USA is the easiest country to get all pilots license in the world. But they dont teach you a lot of maneuvers that if not practiced well will kill you. Like Forced landings on take off 4 kinds, Low and windy GRM, go arounds from flare with full flaps and many more. Only Mild Maneuvering will make you a mild pilot.
Actually it’s more than a 180 except possibly with parallel runways even then I’m sure it would pass 180
Did you pass?
yep... landed the airplane... that's a pass
I though the correct procedure was to place the aircraft in a slight nose down attitude, set up the best glide angle and land straight ahead. Do not try any major or abrupt turns, lest you cause the aircraft to stall. Has this changed recently? What I saw was an abrupt left turn immediately after the engine quit. Comments?
Is the automatic warning repeating "FEUER!" (=fire) ?
No wonder he was so calm and didn't bother advising the tower.
Aviate, navigate, communicate
Wow, this is just a sim? Amazing. After I become a billionaire I must remember to buy one of these.
Great simulation. Even though it was a simulator, it was very exciting.
I was thinking "Go for the golf course!"
Stimulation?
I was wondering why no one was making the radio call to alert tower that; WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY!
Because it’s
Aviate
Navigate
Communicate!
A lot depends on pilot technique, for me and my Cessna 182 anything over 800 feet AGL I can make it back to the airport safely. It's good to practice this maneuver from a safe altitude!
Depends on AC groas weight, winds, obstacles.
It was clear the pilots were expecting the engine failure and were prepaired for it. Woudn´t happen in real life. But its nice demonstration for us what to do. This sound can preddict only one thing.... so no time for wasting time than to turn it to the airport.
Catastrófico failure in front of another runway... Good training!!
I worked with the chief engineer of the Pilates. He was a total jerk and probably still is!
Not the Pontius Pilates?
The best turboprop airplane out there, hands down one of the easiest and more reliable airplanes that I flew. Maybe from the engineer / MX perspective, but as a pilot, this airplane is AWESOME.
Damm, the engine blew up.... Here, hold my beer while I try to land this thing! 😁
That's was just enough glide slope to make a 180 and back. Damn good pilots!!
You do realize this is a simulator?
These TRAINING Pods are SO so lifelike .
Engine: stops
Plane:"OhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGodOhmyGod" alarm
Years ago, when I learned to fly, we were taught to NEVER try to turn back to an airfield if we had an engine failure on take off - it was a good way to go into the ground! Also, why didn't the guy try to restart his engine??? Even though it's a simulator, you should practice to do it right!
Fred Ferd it's a free air turbine. If it stops this quick there is no damn reason to even contemplate a restart. Whip it around and throw in a few degrees of flaps and plant it on the runway. Fuck the airplane just get it on the ground.
Hi Carl I'm sorry! I'm so bloody out of date, that I thought they were flying behind a reciprocating engine. I agree with you about the engine (I'll admit it, I AM slow), but I still don't think turning around is a good idea.
TRUE STORY - in the mid 1960's, rumors were making the rounds that a young man with a student pilot's permit (not a license) was taking sky divers up in a Cessna 182, a sky diving plane without doors. This was happening at Lake Elsinore, California, a popular sky diving area near March Air Force Base. It was a hot summer day, and a very tired, irritable, overworked FAA field man was assigned to investigate. He went out to the Lake Elsinore Airport and watched. Sure enough, a young punk kid gets into the driver's seat of a Cessna 182, which had no doors, followed by a stick of three sky divers. He takes off. A little while later, he comes back alone, lands and parks the airplane. The FAA guy goes up and demands to see his pilot's license. The kid produces a student ticket. The FAA guy says he's going to ground him, fine him, and do all sorts of horrible administrative stuff - you know, evil stuff that the federal government can do when they truly want to mess with you. But the kid says, no, and says he's legal. It turns out that when he went up, the two guys in the back seat jumped first. The guy in the right seat is his Certified Flight Instructor, a CFI, and with him on board, he's legal. The instructor then says, "Your flying STINKS! I'm getting out of here!" and then he bails out, and the kid's flying solo - still legal. The kid was off the hook, but the FAA was NOT amused!
True, don't turn back .. under 1000' agl. I can't read the altimeter but the engine failed at 49 secs, they could have reached 1000', but that is dicy and called the 'impossible turn' for a reason. Also where is the checklist and communication? I didn't see a visible attempt to reach best glide but on climb out best glide is close to Vy so he maybe trimmed there already.
Depends on your height
the motor on my vw failed--went over the ditch,told my wife,"hold my beer and watch this"! we landed safely...
Power pilots need to do more training like this.
Still too many accidents.
Us glider pilots are used to no noisy fan up front!!!
Good point. I feel all pilots should be a master of gliding to land👍
Before the camera rolled - “ we will fail the engine at an altitude which will permit you to make an immediate return to runway - no need to be concerned about other traffic or clearing the active runway in this sim. No need to assess and attempt to re-start. No need to follow engine out checklist - just return to airport”. A hypothetical set of circumstances one would almost NEVER find ones self in - in reality
if they followed the checklist & attempt restart they would crash landed in a farm & cost the owner squillions of money to recover it , insurance,etc , they had no altitude
Good video but you get less thumbs down if you mentioned "simulator" in the title.
Wow funny did not ask for a thumbs up
Ah, a simulator flight. No wonder they were so calm.
Pilatus made a glider too - the B4. So nothing can go wrong in case of dead stick.
I was gonna say that’s a sim these guys are too calm.
It is a sim..
that's why I have 2 engines, continue climb to 1500 agl, have a coffee talk about the last KOT episode, then land.
Engine failure on take-off in a piston twin? Let's not even go there....
How about a turbine twin ;)
No duh....whenever the single vs twin engine argument comes up, the people in favor of single engines always point to the statistics regarding twin engine piston aircraft. They seem to forget that there are twin engine turboprop's which generally perform much differently from twin engine pistons during an engine failure scenario.
I'm going through training now in the Citation V (at Flight Safety) and I can tell you the amount of rudder pedal needed to keep it straight with an engine failure right after V1 is really a lot. I was surprised. I'm guessing 20 to 30 pounds of rudder force is needed and full pedal travel. You've got to do this right and right now or you're going to lose control of the airplane. I got my multi-engine in a C-310 and I remember engine cuts at lift off...you had better be on the rudder pedal right now! less you end up on your back sliding down the runway. It isn't much easier in the Citation V.
PT6's never fail..... mostly..... probably the best engine on the planet for a single engine application.
Never fail? Impossible, there are a lot king air that pt6 have failed
@@Amr_a82 ......please tell me of another single engine turboprop that has a better track record than a PT6!.....and the answer is?
Would it be better to establish best glide configuration first?