You guys are great. Both of you point Out these issues but with such a good attitude. Rockwood should repair all of these issues for you because of your kind way of pointing out some poor workmanship. 😎
Thanks for the video. We just got our 2022 2509S and I will be looking over some of these trouble spots before we start using it. Preventive maintenance is always better than having to make repairs when you are out and about.
We have a 2019 2104s that we bought brand new in 2018. We have over 6000 miles on it. Very very few issues with it. The only warranty items we had were the toilet, Dometic had a batch were they would hold liquids and after a while they stunk. I was able to swap that once the dealer got us a new one and the letters on the very front started peeling and again the dealer shipped up new ones I have yet to put them on. There was a small piece of door trim to the bathroom that came unstapled but I have an 18ga pneumatic stapler and fixed that super easy. I've done a couple modifications to it, added a dimmer over the dinette, added USB outlets on my side of the bed, I added a counter extension similar to yours but ours never came with one so I had to work with the Rockwood parts dept and local dealership to find one that would match. You can make the windows open a little more by cutting some plastic bits. Oh the latest thing besides maintenance was I had to replace the front vent cover as ours cracked but I never found evidence of it leaking. We used to camp in this secluded area down a 2 mile gravel road and the windshield did get a chip but after I installed mud flaps on my truck and havent had any issues since. We love our Rockwood. We started out with the cheapest thing we could find because we didnt know what we wanted. We found a 2104s after a few years and then when we decided to buy one we couldnt find one. a few years of calling around and waiting we ended up driving 250 miles out of state to get one. We'd do it all over again. Rockwood makes a quality product.
So sorry you've hit these problems. I wanted to get an RV or van, but after seeing youtubes about the lack of supervison and simple inspections in the factories, changed my mind. Apparently, one tuber said that industry makes its money on camper financing, makes crap products and overloads the dealers with repair issues. Doesn't matter how much you spend. Shame shame. .No idea why this industry is not regulated and actually all paperwork you sign says you can't sue anyone. Doesn't make sense to me. Run, don't walk to a different hobby. What a shame.
We have a Viking 17BH and we love it but it's been all sorts of insignificant issues due to poor craftsmanship too. The trick is to keep on top of all the little things before they get worse, just like you mentioned in the video! If you pay attention to detail and sort things out right away, it doesn't get out of hand. Loved hearing your list! We try to learn from everyone's experience and look out for all the details you might overlook! Thanks to both of you x
To prevent any damage to your slide (which we had problems with on our 2509S and since we fixed) you should never open your slide half way. if you have this type of slide you need to open it up all the way and close it all the way, never half way, and never ever step on it while in, since it will knock it off the tracks. This was told to us by both the dealer and Forest River. If you need to use the toilet while traveling you need to open the slide all the way through
We have had our 2023 2509S for almost three months. Agree with your comments on excellent design and build quality. Rockwood has addressed many of your issues on the 2023 models with tweaks. I would expect that. One aspect that is not so good is the TV/entertainment system. to accommodate the Go Power solar charge controller, they picked a TV with everything built into it. Works o.k. Have had better in my previous trailer. Showstopper happened due to plugging in our essential (to us) Apple TV. Both HDMI ports are poor quality and/or poorly installed. Have to wiggle the connections on both ports and hope it hooks up. That is unacceptable so I sourced what I believe is a higher quality TV with a built in DVD player. Also got a portable Bluetooth soundbar. Still installing, so hope it will be an improvement. Also ordered a mattress upgrade. the factory mattress is comfortable enough, but it makes noise when we move like plastic crinkling. Yes, I removed the plastic wrap. Both upgrades are not unreasonable and will only make a great trailer even better. All in all the 2509S is a terrific trailer and your video was excellent. Thanks!
So, new watcher, although not a new camper. That piece of plastic on the side of your dinette is really easily fixed. The first part is popping off the screw covers- that's all the little round bits on the outside. Then, unscrew the screws. That should release the piece of plastic. It's simply covered with a piece of "leather" to match your dinette. You can get replacement plastic that's a little thicker at either Lowe's or Home Depot. If you are at all handy wtih a dremel, cut it to fit, using the old piece as a pattern. Also, if you get tired of using rags on the bottom of your bed? Furniture felt from Lowes and a glue gun. Cut it to fit all the way across, take off the rubber thingy, and glue it on. PS: this may be our next camper. This video was spot on - all campers have problems.
Thanks for the video...table fold- up is a good suggestion. I have 2019 version of the same camper. Our model has the radio up over the Fridge where the digital screen can't be seen without a step stool and is a major pain.... We finally removed the gas stove in the outdoor kitchen. We never used it. I have made place to mount a small propane camp stove and feed it with the gas fixture. My wife actually cans fruit and makes jam while we camp. That also puts the stove at a better height for short folk. The stairs have been pain. We folded them down one time and my wife stepped on the first step and the stairs sprung back throwing her off backwards. The stairs also drop dirt in the door sill. The outdoor grill mounts nicely on the side of camper and has worked out well. We usually do not take the grill with us on long trips because of the amount of space it takes. Overall we don't care much for the newer floor plans. We're both in our mid 70's and getting into the bed is a challenge, though the memory foam bed is quite comfortable. The freshwater tank drain spigot broke after two years. It needs to be relocated to where it can be reached. We find the shower and tub to be quite adequate.
I also have the same RV and I'm glad my sales Rep went over my RV spending over two hours explaining things like NEVER TRAVEL with the bed up, store both table trays, dining table in lower positive. Every thing electrical was turned on and tested to include ever electrical plug outlet, all water inside and out turned on to test to include hot water heater, awning, stove, microwave, even showed me how to use the WIFI Ranger Booster. So far so good, GOOD LUCK!
Thanks for this! Good info, and important to know if anyone buys one! Might seem simple to you and others, but it can save your bum! Had anyone told me that on my Airstream 23FB that if I saw condensation on the windows, I would have floor issues from water damage I would have saved $26,000. (The cost of repairs.) Airstreams are great, almost airtight, seldom leak, bla bla bla. I just assumed that of course Airstreams would have channels or tubes ro route window condensation down and out, nope! We humans cook, shower breathe and that makes moisture that collects on the windows when it’s cold. I had no clue until my foot went through the floor by the bedroom, and was told the entire floor needed to be replaced. Had I KNOWN, I could have prevented that!
Thanks for sharing, I have a 2019 Flagstaff FBRS. My biggest issue I've had so far is my plastic fender wells were not sealed and were only held in with 3 screws, one on each end and one in the middle. I added many more screws and sealed up the gaps with caulking. So much for quality workmanship. Good luck with your rig !
Thanks for the great video. We just traded our GEO pro for a mini lite 2205. Can’t wait to get it on the road. Thanks again again and have a blessed camping season.
We have a 2507s and have found the following in our experience…1 replace the taps they are cheap plastic and will eventually break 2 replace the curtain hook with a Command velcro strap 3 not sure about driving with the table on it’s side..I would be concerned with it continually bouncing on the slide floor during travel 4 never put anything in cupboards without being wrapped or contained..your couch trays will bounce against the back of the cupboard door in travel if just thrown in cupboard and the things in the outdoor kitchen cupboard need to be in a cardboard box or plastic container to protect the walls…if they are loose in the box pack towels around them to stop them from bouncing around…packing for travel comes with experience and you have learned a lot already. Good point on protecting your floor from the bed rests 😊…happy camping!
I was going back-and-forth between the Geo pro 20ft BH and the alpha wolf 29ft BH but this is so perfectly in between! Thank you so much for the videos
Great video. We just bought a barely ever used 2020 2104S and absolutely love it so far. These little tips of yours are awesome! I'd already noticed the stair issues you mentioned, was concerned that the sink handles felt a little shaky and even noticing the seating edge being kinda flimsy, but the table trick when moving is genius! Also, since we've only had it a month and been out on just 1 short adventure, these tips are gonna keep our new-to-us Mini Lite in the best condition possible. Thanks a million for the video. Sharing with my girl now.👍
Thanks so much! I’m buying my first trailer, and from what have learned from you two, is that rockwood is way to go. It has always worked in the past, so I’m staying, with the theory! Lmao! Thanks, so much!
Thanks for sharing. We have a 2016 Rockwood 2304DS for about 5years now and have enjoyed it. Our main problems through the year thus far was the water filter canister freezing and cracking thus causing water problems. One of the decorative moldings above one of the slides came loose and also had to replace a valve on toilet that cracked through the years and leaked. Hade to replace freshwater drain valve cause the turn valve broke off and could not be opened or closed. We finally had to replace the CO2 sensor after four years. It kept on beeping of and on. I was told they need replacing after so many years as a maintenance. Things wear out through the years, other than that we really hadn’t much problems with our Rockwood. Oh yeah, keep an eye on your seals and make sure they’re water tight, mostly on the outside on your roof.
I unscrewed both white connection fitting lines from the canister and removed it and replaced it with a 1/2" pvc union and rescrewed in both water lines. No cutting involved.
Thanks for all the information I am currently shopping for a pull-behind. Enjoyed your first video. Appreciate the honesty on the second video. Lots of good information.
Don’t let your steps slam shut. They will jump past the side frames. This results in you hoping you have enough tools in an external compartment to fix this. Loosen one or both side catches on the steps. Replace and align them to catch the side frames. Just takes a gentle touch to keep this from happening.
Traveling with the table unsecured on its side instead of in the ‘flattened sleeping’ position is asking for trouble. Also pro-tip: install an outlet beneath the bench on the window wall of the slide! It’s super handy when using table for desk when husband is working while camping and needs to plug in laptop and cell phone.
The table is not unsecured when we stow it on its side. The things that the table sits on when in the flattened sleeping position store it tightly in place. It has been working out great for us. Love the idea of the outlet there, I installed a 12 volt usb outlet on the side of the bed next to the pantry as it did not have one there.
We have the same camper and the dealer told us to be careful stepping on the slide floor when it is in because it will break away from the dinette seating cabinets. The slide floor only has a few screws holding it in place. The dealer did have a solution however. If you do want to step on it while the slide is in, place 2 door stop wedges under the slide floor to support it. I put one on each side of the kitchen island. You just have to remember to remove them before you put the slide out. The large white door stops from Walmart work good.
New follower here. I enjoy have you take your experiences and share with us how you’ve handled the issues. So practical and original. We are looking at East to West and the Rockwood, bouncing back and forth between the two. Going to pull the trigger soon. Keep on sharing your experiences with us.
we have the 21.5 and I wish we had those little tables on the murphy, or the light above the dinnette. they changed to an ugly light. other than that, we are extremly satisfied with ours too. though this year will be the first with the usage of the fridge. we had to get ours replaced as the original was DOA. took over winter to get that done. didnt want to lose camping days during the season. keep up the great videos. we appreciate it.
Thanks guys , you can get the bolt by dropping a rod down with a magnet on the end the longer the rod the better if it has moved , just tape on a magnet pull it up to the hole hot glue it then use strong adhesive to fix it permanently, it may take time to get it Aligned
We had a keystone hideout and we loved it. But so many things were broken on it and things just felt cheap. Then we sold and bought the 25brds flagstaff which is the 2509s and the quality difference is amazing. I expect to keep this unless it gets damaged by weather or an accident. There is no other camper we have seen that has so much outside storage access. Ours is a 2018 and still looks new.
We have friends with a Hideout as well and it is always broke and at the dealer for repair. Glad you found a great camper you enjoy, and that is the exact same floor plan.
If you haven’t fixed it by now, take a piece of string with a strong magnet on one end, dropping into that hole where the dining table goes, it’ll come right up
Regarding the MoreRide step and door closure. The steps don’t seem to pull up all the way so that they outer stop contacts the inner frame. Maybe that’s because I’m not totally level, but the screen door hinge has an L bracket which is easily bent and a couple of screws which are easily loosened, by trying to press the stair further back using the lightweight screen door on light weight hinges. Like you show, you need to push the steps back into contact with their stop. I think this is hard to do while you’re closing the door but it does seem to help. A better idea That I have not tried yet might be to use a bungee cord maybe off the hook for the fire extinguisher just inside the door to help position the steps further back onto the stop. I don’t know if there is a statement in some manual somewhere that you have to be level before closing the door.You better not decide that you need some thing out of the trailer when you have just pulled to the side of the road because it will not be level. I had to learn that and back up further to a level spot to close the door easily. I found I should always close the screen separately and gently before the outer door since it tends to hang up and can warp the hinge. I’ve read owners’ group statements that these screen door hinges get bent and need to be replaced from stock. The rubber feet on your Murphy bed legs obviously need to be replaced with a longer footpad or at least duplicated to spread out the force along the entire rectangle contact patch of the leg.
I am actually finding its not about being level at all so much as it is about making sure the legs on the steps are set to the proper length. If they are set to high the door can get damaged if you try to close it or just not close at all.
We have the 2020 2509s and we love it. The only trouble we've had after 3 seasons are the refrigerator door face (user error) and the Murphy bed. We forgot to secure the refrigerator door and the banging during travel caused the front face of the door fall off, it's just glued on. Watch the Murphy bed frame/legs. We noticed that they were falling apart and I think this one was poor design or something was missed in the manufacturing, because the legs and part of the frame were just held together with long U staples (stuff happens). Luckily our dealer covered the as a warranty repair. We are very pleased with our trailer and once we get rid of the kids, we're looking to buy the 2516. Great couples camper.
Good video , my wife and i almost bought this camper but since we have no kids we purchased the Rockwood Mini Lite 2205s , now we must wait for months to take delivery ...Rockwood campers are very good and your issues were minor , dont let them spoil your camping trips ,,,BTW it is voila' LOL .
Congratulations on your new camper. Hopefully you get it soon. We definitely don't let the issues get to us, we love this camper. Thank you for watching and commenting!
For cracked plastic piece hanging out at dinette seat base… I would put small pieces of Velcro to allow it to be kept in position. That could be easily separated if needing to remove cushion. :
Hi guys. Just came across your video. We have a 2019. Not too many changes in 2 years, but it was fun watching since we have practically the same trailer and we also love it! Only difference, is ours is the 2507S. This model does not have the bunkhouse... since we are retired, and kids are grown/gone we didn't need it. However, the 2507s doesn't have quite the same issues as yours. The outdoor kitchen is twice as big and has actual cabinets, so no problem with storage. Since there are no bunks, the bath is bigger with a linen closet. In the galley, the sink is set at an angle to the stove, so that creates more space between it and the table, so even with the slide closed, you can still walk to the bath. It's a tight squeeze, but not bad. Yes, the table folds, but standing it up right is a good idea for your model. Good call. But I will admit I had to LOL that you didn't know it folded at first. As far as the side tables for the couch, we 86'd those b/c we never use them. Have not watched many others of your videos, so hope this is not a repeat. But we did pick up one of the Renogy 100-watt suitcase solor panels and it works great keeping the batteries topped. With a 10ft cord, I can easily place it on the trailer roof above the bed and simply drop the cord down to the plug and get power and it's not in the way at all. Since it is the suitcase style, I can clip a rope to the handle and pulling it up to the roof is easy peasy. Happy camping.
What year did you get? 2022 had some great upgrades including the 12 volt fridge and solar panel that are now standard. I love my 2018 and i hate that it's holding strong and no need to get rid of it so wife won't allow upgrade yet lol. Rockwood and Flagstaff just last so long.
@@yankeesusa1 Ours will be a 2022 when we pick it up in February. It was ordered as a 2021 back in June with the DC fridge and solar, which is now standard for MY 2022. I did add the second solar panel to the build a couple months ago. It does look like Rockwood has dealt with at least 3 of the issues in this video. I will take care of the other items. Glad to hear your ’18 is holding up so well!
I have not read any of the other comments so this might be a redundant comment on my part. Regarding your side table "bolt coming out" statement, I think you will find there is no bolt - the piece you pulled out simply screws back tight, with no missing pieces, like you did when you tightened the one on the other side. Happened to us and I promise you that is all I did to put it back tight - but be patient with how many times you have to turn it for it to tighten fully.
We just picked up our ‘23 wildwood 25rbhl last week and oh man ! Can’t believe the quality has gone for shit so fast. So many deficiencies right from day one. Can’t believe Forrest river let trailer like ours leaving the factory like that there’s zero quality control. I’m not impressed with dealership either so many flaws and defect
I was actually showing that all the issues are small. There are other brands out there that have walls that collapse on them. Compared to those brands I am very happty to only have small issue like I have had. You have to remember that these are houses that are constantly being pulled down the road and gping over bumps. Nothing will be perfect under those conditions. Thank you for watching.
Take some thin rubber tool box drawer liner and put in your outside storage compartment. I think it helps dramatically. Sorry, but your problems with the steps are 100% user error. Yes, you can easily damage something, but if you’re careful, not an issue and they are so much nicer than the old steel steps. I know it’s probably hard with children, I get it.
We have a 2022 2509s that came in back in September and we are really enjoying it so far with no real issues as of yet. For the bed legs we removed the round pegs and got some peel and stick felt pads at walmart and cut them to fit under the bed legs. What kind of gas mileage do you get with your Ram while pulling your camper? We just got back from our longest trip (200 miles one way) and our 2018 Ram hemi got down to 7 mpg. We stayed around 60-62 mph but it was very hilly the whole way.
Use 3M & command products for hanging, fixing things . Plastic stripe on dinnette Car part stores have long handled magnetic end to retrieve medal things. Maybe u can get that nut that fell into your couch arm. Hope its medal.If not U could put something sticky on the end to get it & retrieve it like that. Ur little pole will come in handy. Gets screws , parts out of places that are tight. ETC. I love ZIP ties, duct tape , bungie cords. Ladies zip ties come In. Colors. They work great to tie tee shirts to a gathered side. Just gather UR t shirt on one side and zip tie it. Works great. I also have used ALAIEN TAPE. FLEX TAPE WORKS GREAT ON LEAKS. HOLDS TIGHT FOREVER. I'VE REPAIRED FLOWER ROTS ., PLACTIC BOWLS . SHARK BITES FOR PLUMBING. THANKS FOR THE HEADSUP ON POSSIBLE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND..
I love the long magnet idea, and am niw a little upset that I had not already thought of that. We also use 3M double sticky for a lot of stuff. Thank you so much.
I would not travel with water pump on so if anything happens with handles or fittings it May bd less mess.? Also shut off everything before leaving for the day. My unit has a kill switch in outside compartment.
The point of this video is this. Amper is made well with only small issues. We have plenty of friends that have had serious issues after issues and have spent more time at the dealer then camping. We love this brand and will only buy Rockwood from here on out.
@@BassinNmore I think John may not have a lot of experience w/ RVing. The problems you had are so minor compared to other manufacturers. As you've learned, don't buy an RV if you can't fix minor stuff. All your problems are super minor and give me confidence as I go look at the Flagstaff trailers this weekend. All my research says they are among the best made. I previously had a toy-hauler that I took off-road all the time. Fixing trim and cabinets after every trip was the norm! Thanks for the video
Rockwood/Flagstaff are on our short list of trailers to buy. Did you pay for a separate inspection of the RV or did you rely on the dealer's inspection to catch potential problems before your purchase?
We relied on the dealer along with our own experience and knowledge of campers. They let us do our own inspection and gave us as much time as we wanted with someone there to answer any question we had.
I am sure at some point it will, but for now we like have all the extra room in the camper while the bed is up to entertain our kids and any friends that pop in while we are using the camper. Thanks
What's the total weight of this unit. I live in Weiser moved here from Nebraska and have been researching campers that I can pull with either one of my trucks. 18 Silverado and a 99 Tahoe that's been heavily modified. Love ur videos. Happy camping
It is 5200lbs dry with a cargo capacity of 1500lbs for around 6700lbs is fully loaded. I pull it with a ram 1500 bighorn 5.7 hemi with 3.92 gears and 4x4.
Hi all, I just wanted to let y'all know that the light above the dinette table can become loose and fall down. We just experienced this ourselves. We love our 2509S!!
I am in New Zealand.love your videos. I am looking at getting one of these soon. Wana rv seems to have the best price. But then I need to have it hauled to Savannah Georgia. Is there a recommendation on someone who can do a pre purchase inspection
@@BassinNmore thank you for fast reply. My wife and I are looking and been watching a lot of CZcams videos. Looks like a great camper for 30K. So stay away from Jayco ?
We almost bought a 2509S but ended up getting a Rockwood Roo 235s (hybrid) for the spaciousness (plus we like the canvas). It has the same table, and I've been folding it down for travel and placing it flat on the bed support stoppers, but it still shifts and slides a little during travel. I like how you put it on its side in between the stoppers. Can you comment on how yours has done when traveling in that position? Any movement or shifting? TIA!
It's understandable to have a few things go wrong, and many of these things appear to fall under "user error" or better put "kid damage" :). But there are obvious design/build quality issues. Is there a reason you don't take this back and have the dealer fix all of the build quality issues for you under warrantee? I would never fix build quality issues myself, there is a reason you pay higher dollar to get a good manufacturer (such as Rockwood) and that's to get the great warrantee and reputation. Make them fix it!
I like having my camper to use when I want. Take it to the dealer and they keep it for weeks to months wiating on parts, then doing the repairs. If something major happens that I cant repair I will take it in, otherwise I don't mind doing it myself.
@@BassinNmore Thank you for your input, your experience is helping me with trying to figure out what I want to buy. Your response makes perfect sense. It's concerning for me to see all the leaking points you had to fix, that should not be happening with a trailer at this price point and a company with the reputation I've been reading about. Would you still recommend this company to buy from?
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot I would absolutely recommend this company. Rockwood has one of the best reputations out there and is the reason why I looked so long for this unit. Campers fall apart. They get pulled behind you at high speeds, they bounce on every bump you hit, and they use different materials then a house to keep the weight down. I am very happy with our camper and the fact that our issues are all little ones. Our camping friends baught a 2021 hideout at the same time as us, and they had a wall in their camper completely fall over, the slide out has stopped working twice and their camper has been in the dealer for almost a year out of the two they have owned it. I wish you the best on your search and hope you find what you are looking for.
@@BassinNmore My Rockwood dealer, Razorback Camper Sales in Hot Springs, fixed all the warranty issues I had (door latch, cheap pass through latch, drawer fit, and a replacement for the converter) in less than a week. They had the WFCO converter in stock already! And they listened carefully, even over the phone beforehand and gave me an appointment in only three weeks this spring.
I am not sure you could even get it through the door, but if you could, I would say yes, there are several places you could fit one or two. We carry our kids kayaks on the top bunk.
Hey guys, can you provide the dry weight of this trailer? We love your videos and it looks like this one is the trailer for us but we already have a 1/2 ton truck and I want to plug in numbers to be sure it will be the right trailer for us. Thanks.
We've got the same trailer (2020) and tow it with our 2018 Chevy 1500. No troubles and LOVE the camper. Even went over the continental divide, albeit slow!
Interesting. I thought Grand Design was supposed to be one of the best. I'm looking at an Imagine XLS or a Rockwood Mini-light. Leaning to the Rockwood right now.
@@BassinNmore Thank you that's what I was figuring. Have wanted one of these but only have a 1/2 ton pickup and based on numbers I threw at it I am well over my trucks gvwr. Keep up the good work.
@@the_anxiousphotographer each truck is different. I am towing with a 2017 ram 1500 and my gvwr is 1470lbs. My friend has a 2016 ram 1500 and is gvwr is 1000lbs.
I don’t know how you can say you’re treating up with so many issues and already broken stuff less than two years old I am in the market for a trailer it certainly won’t be a rock with poor design poor fit and finish
Do your reaserch first before you buy anything that cost this much! The point of our video was to show how well rockwood has held up. I am not going to bash on other brands, but several of our friends also baught vrand new campers and have had their campers at the dealer for months to even half a year waiting for major repairs like the slideouts no longer working, to appliance issues, and even a whole wall falling over all within the first few months. So yeah, don't get a rockwood and after a couple years only have tiny issues like ours to deal with. Remember these are small houses on wheels bouncing around the road a lot, and we are lucky to only have the small issues we have had. Thank you for watching though, and best of luck in your search.
I love our 2020 2509s. This is our 3rd year camping and I have to say, rockwood makes a great trailer and every travel trailer is going to have problems because they take a beating going down the road!
The damages in this video are all very small and inexpensive. The point was that you are hauling a house behind you, and it is getting beat up pretty bad with every bump you hit. We have had friends that have had a whole wall collapse on their camper, and we have only had small things. I highly recommend this camper, and if we ever do get rid of it, we will definitely be getting another rockwood.
@@BassinNmore I understand that, but honestly, we’ve had our travel trailer for 7 yrs, bought it brand new, and have not had issues like this particular make and model. We’re looking to upgrade, we are in Northern BC, Canada so our prices are $60000.00 to $68000.00 for the Rockwood. I don’t mind upgrades to faucets, etc because I want to, but if you have to because things are falling apart after a year, that’s a lot of time and money wasted
The point of the video was to say that after 2 seasons of use we don't have any big issues and that our rockwood is holding up great with only small things that you can fix yourself and not have to take into the dealer for repairs.
The things that were wrong were very minor. If you compare Flagstaff and Rockwood you'll see they last longer compared to many others. These are very minor compared to bent tongue like on the Springdale and even Grand design has more problems.
Its not junk. Its being pulled behind a truck at high speeds, and over some large bumps. I have seem camper walls fall in, slideouts stop working. The point was that the things wrong with ours are so small compared to others that we highly recommend it. Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you have a great day.
You guys are great. Both of you point
Out these issues but with such a good attitude. Rockwood should repair all of these issues for you because of your kind way of pointing out some poor workmanship. 😎
Thanks for the video. We just got our 2022 2509S and I will be looking over some of these trouble spots before we start using it. Preventive maintenance is always better than having to make repairs when you are out and about.
We have a 2019 2104s that we bought brand new in 2018. We have over 6000 miles on it. Very very few issues with it. The only warranty items we had were the toilet, Dometic had a batch were they would hold liquids and after a while they stunk. I was able to swap that once the dealer got us a new one and the letters on the very front started peeling and again the dealer shipped up new ones I have yet to put them on. There was a small piece of door trim to the bathroom that came unstapled but I have an 18ga pneumatic stapler and fixed that super easy. I've done a couple modifications to it, added a dimmer over the dinette, added USB outlets on my side of the bed, I added a counter extension similar to yours but ours never came with one so I had to work with the Rockwood parts dept and local dealership to find one that would match. You can make the windows open a little more by cutting some plastic bits. Oh the latest thing besides maintenance was I had to replace the front vent cover as ours cracked but I never found evidence of it leaking. We used to camp in this secluded area down a 2 mile gravel road and the windshield did get a chip but after I installed mud flaps on my truck and havent had any issues since. We love our Rockwood. We started out with the cheapest thing we could find because we didnt know what we wanted. We found a 2104s after a few years and then when we decided to buy one we couldnt find one. a few years of calling around and waiting we ended up driving 250 miles out of state to get one. We'd do it all over again. Rockwood makes a quality product.
So sorry you've hit these problems. I wanted to get an RV or van, but after seeing youtubes about the lack of supervison and simple inspections in the factories, changed my mind. Apparently, one tuber said that industry makes its money on camper financing, makes crap products and overloads the dealers with repair issues. Doesn't matter how much you spend. Shame shame. .No idea why this industry is not regulated and actually all paperwork you sign says you can't sue anyone. Doesn't make sense to me. Run, don't walk to a different hobby. What a shame.
We have a Viking 17BH and we love it but it's been all sorts of insignificant issues due to poor craftsmanship too. The trick is to keep on top of all the little things before they get worse, just like you mentioned in the video! If you pay attention to detail and sort things out right away, it doesn't get out of hand. Loved hearing your list! We try to learn from everyone's experience and look out for all the details you might overlook! Thanks to both of you x
To prevent any damage to your slide (which we had problems with on our 2509S and since we fixed) you should never open your slide half way. if you have this type of slide you need to open it up all the way and close it all the way, never half way, and never ever step on it while in, since it will knock it off the tracks. This was told to us by both the dealer and Forest River. If you need to use the toilet while traveling you need to open the slide all the way through
We have had our 2023 2509S for almost three months. Agree with your comments on excellent design and build quality. Rockwood has addressed many of your issues on the 2023 models with tweaks. I would expect that. One aspect that is not so good is the TV/entertainment system. to accommodate the Go Power solar charge controller, they picked a TV with everything built into it. Works o.k. Have had better in my previous trailer. Showstopper happened due to plugging in our essential (to us) Apple TV. Both HDMI ports are poor quality and/or poorly installed. Have to wiggle the connections on both ports and hope it hooks up. That is unacceptable so I sourced what I believe is a higher quality TV with a built in DVD player. Also got a portable Bluetooth soundbar. Still installing, so hope it will be an improvement. Also ordered a mattress upgrade. the factory mattress is comfortable enough, but it makes noise when we move like plastic crinkling. Yes, I removed the plastic wrap. Both upgrades are not unreasonable and will only make a great trailer even better. All in all the 2509S is a terrific trailer and your video was excellent. Thanks!
So, new watcher, although not a new camper. That piece of plastic on the side of your dinette is really easily fixed. The first part is popping off the screw covers- that's all the little round bits on the outside. Then, unscrew the screws. That should release the piece of plastic. It's simply covered with a piece of "leather" to match your dinette. You can get replacement plastic that's a little thicker at either Lowe's or Home Depot. If you are at all handy wtih a dremel, cut it to fit, using the old piece as a pattern.
Also, if you get tired of using rags on the bottom of your bed? Furniture felt from Lowes and a glue gun. Cut it to fit all the way across, take off the rubber thingy, and glue it on.
PS: this may be our next camper. This video was spot on - all campers have problems.
Thanks for the video...table fold- up is a good suggestion. I have 2019 version of the same camper. Our model has the radio up over the Fridge where the digital screen can't be seen without a step stool and is a major pain.... We finally removed the gas stove in the outdoor kitchen. We never used it. I have made place to mount a small propane camp stove and feed it with the gas fixture. My wife actually cans fruit and makes jam while we camp. That also puts the stove at a better height for short folk. The stairs have been pain. We folded them down one time and my wife stepped on the first step and the stairs sprung back throwing her off backwards. The stairs also drop dirt in the door sill. The outdoor grill mounts nicely on the side of camper and has worked out well. We usually do not take the grill with us on long trips because of the amount of space it takes.
Overall we don't care much for the newer floor plans. We're both in our mid 70's and getting into the bed is a challenge, though the memory foam bed is quite comfortable. The freshwater tank drain spigot broke after two years. It needs to be relocated to where it can be reached. We find the shower and tub to be quite adequate.
I just have to say, the table on the side...."game changer" thanks for that!!!!
I also have the same RV and I'm glad my sales Rep went over my RV spending over two hours explaining things like NEVER TRAVEL with the bed up, store both table trays, dining table in lower positive. Every thing electrical was turned on and tested to include ever electrical plug outlet, all water inside and out turned on to test to include hot water heater, awning, stove, microwave, even showed me how to use the WIFI Ranger Booster. So far so good, GOOD LUCK!
Better dealer then ours and most. Thank you!
We’re getting the same time with orientation, with our Rockwood Mini Lite 2507s.
@@sbollinger37 what dealer are you all using?
@@BassinNmore Shady Maple RV… In Lancaster County Pennsylvania
@@sbollinger37 camper world for us
Thanks for this! Good info, and important to know if anyone buys one! Might seem simple to you and others, but it can save your bum! Had anyone told me that on my Airstream 23FB that if I saw condensation on the windows, I would have floor issues from water damage I would have saved $26,000. (The cost of repairs.) Airstreams are great, almost airtight, seldom leak, bla bla bla. I just assumed that of course Airstreams would have channels or tubes ro route window condensation down and out, nope! We humans cook, shower breathe and that makes moisture that collects on the windows when it’s cold. I had no clue until my foot went through the floor by the bedroom, and was told the entire floor needed to be replaced. Had I KNOWN, I could have prevented that!
Thank for the great information. We are proud owners of a 2022 Minilite and we love it. Again, great information and I’ll definitely keep watching.
Thanks for sharing, I have a 2019 Flagstaff FBRS. My biggest issue I've had so far is my plastic fender wells were not sealed and were only held in with 3 screws, one on each end and one in the middle. I added many more screws and sealed up the gaps with caulking. So much for quality workmanship. Good luck with your rig !
Thanks for the great video. We just traded our GEO pro for a mini lite 2205. Can’t wait to get it on the road. Thanks again again and have a blessed camping season.
We have a 2507s and have found the following in our experience…1 replace the taps they are cheap plastic and will eventually break 2 replace the curtain hook with a Command velcro strap 3 not sure about driving with the table on it’s side..I would be concerned with it continually bouncing on the slide floor during travel 4 never put anything in cupboards without being wrapped or contained..your couch trays will bounce against the back of the cupboard door in travel if just thrown in cupboard and the things in the outdoor kitchen cupboard need to be in a cardboard box or plastic container to protect the walls…if they are loose in the box pack towels around them to stop them from bouncing around…packing for travel comes with experience and you have learned a lot already. Good point on protecting your floor from the bed rests 😊…happy camping!
Thank you
When I had my 21DS, it was recommended to travel with dining room table down in the sleeping position.
Crazy how many corners these manufacturers cut :(
Thanks for sharing.
It really is, and how fast they make them. Thanks for watching.
I was going back-and-forth between the Geo pro 20ft BH and the alpha wolf 29ft BH but this is so perfectly in between! Thank you so much for the videos
Great video. We just bought a barely ever used 2020 2104S and absolutely love it so far. These little tips of yours are awesome! I'd already noticed the stair issues you mentioned, was concerned that the sink handles felt a little shaky and even noticing the seating edge being kinda flimsy, but the table trick when moving is genius! Also, since we've only had it a month and been out on just 1 short adventure, these tips are gonna keep our new-to-us Mini Lite in the best condition possible. Thanks a million for the video. Sharing with my girl now.👍
Thank you!
Thanks so much! I’m buying my first trailer, and from what have learned from you two, is that rockwood is way to go. It has always worked in the past, so I’m staying, with the theory! Lmao! Thanks, so much!
Its all I will ever buy again. Happy hunting.
Thanks for sharing. We have a 2016 Rockwood 2304DS for about 5years now and have enjoyed it. Our main problems through the year thus far was the water filter canister freezing and cracking thus causing water problems. One of the decorative moldings above one of the slides came loose and also had to replace a valve on toilet that cracked through the years and leaked. Hade to replace freshwater drain valve cause the turn valve broke off and could not be opened or closed. We finally had to replace the CO2 sensor after four years. It kept on beeping of and on. I was told they need replacing after so many years as a maintenance. Things wear out through the years, other than that we really hadn’t much problems with our Rockwood. Oh yeah, keep an eye on your seals and make sure they’re water tight, mostly on the outside on your roof.
Will definitely ch3ck the roof once a year after pulling it out of winter storage before taking it out for the first trip each summer. Thanks
I unscrewed both white connection fitting lines from the canister and removed it and replaced it with a 1/2" pvc union and rescrewed in both water lines. No cutting involved.
Thanks for all the information I am currently shopping for a pull-behind. Enjoyed your first video. Appreciate the honesty on the second video. Lots of good information.
Don’t let your steps slam shut. They will jump past the side frames. This results in you hoping you have enough tools in an external compartment to fix this. Loosen one or both side catches on the steps. Replace and align them to catch the side frames. Just takes a gentle touch to keep this from happening.
Traveling with the table unsecured on its side instead of in the ‘flattened sleeping’ position is asking for trouble. Also pro-tip: install an outlet beneath the bench on the window wall of the slide! It’s super handy when using table for desk when husband is working while camping and needs to plug in laptop and cell phone.
The table is not unsecured when we stow it on its side. The things that the table sits on when in the flattened sleeping position store it tightly in place. It has been working out great for us. Love the idea of the outlet there, I installed a 12 volt usb outlet on the side of the bed next to the pantry as it did not have one there.
We have the same camper and the dealer told us to be careful stepping on the slide floor when it is in because it will break away from the dinette seating cabinets. The slide floor only has a few screws holding it in place. The dealer did have a solution however. If you do want to step on it while the slide is in, place 2 door stop wedges under the slide floor to support it. I put one on each side of the kitchen island. You just have to remember to remove them before you put the slide out. The large white door stops from Walmart work good.
Good to know. Thank you.
New follower here. I enjoy have you take your experiences and share with us how you’ve handled the issues. So practical and original. We are looking at East to West and the Rockwood, bouncing back and forth between the two. Going to pull the trigger soon. Keep on sharing your experiences with us.
Thank you so much!!!
we have the 21.5 and I wish we had those little tables on the murphy, or the light above the dinnette. they changed to an ugly light. other than that, we are extremly satisfied with ours too. though this year will be the first with the usage of the fridge. we had to get ours replaced as the original was DOA. took over winter to get that done. didnt want to lose camping days during the season. keep up the great videos. we appreciate it.
Amazing how long it takes for the dealer to replace a fridge. Thank you and hope everything is working great for you this season.
Thk you. Your up beat helpful fixing ideas are helpful... keep smiling and camping with family.
Thank you
Thanks guys , you can get the bolt by dropping a rod down with a magnet on the end the longer the rod the better if it has moved , just tape on a magnet pull it up to the hole hot glue it then use strong adhesive to fix it permanently, it may take time to get it Aligned
We had a keystone hideout and we loved it. But so many things were broken on it and things just felt cheap. Then we sold and bought the 25brds flagstaff which is the 2509s and the quality difference is amazing. I expect to keep this unless it gets damaged by weather or an accident. There is no other camper we have seen that has so much outside storage access. Ours is a 2018 and still looks new.
We have friends with a Hideout as well and it is always broke and at the dealer for repair. Glad you found a great camper you enjoy, and that is the exact same floor plan.
If you haven’t fixed it by now, take a piece of string with a strong magnet on one end, dropping into that hole where the dining table goes, it’ll come right up
Regarding the MoreRide step and door closure. The steps don’t seem to pull up all the way so that they outer stop contacts the inner frame. Maybe that’s because I’m not totally level, but the screen door hinge has an L bracket which is easily bent and a couple of screws which are easily loosened, by trying to press the stair further back using the lightweight screen door on light weight hinges. Like you show, you need to push the steps back into contact with their stop. I think this is hard to do while you’re closing the door but it does seem to help. A better idea That I have not tried yet might be to use a bungee cord maybe off the hook for the fire extinguisher just inside the door to help position the steps further back onto the stop.
I don’t know if there is a statement in some manual somewhere that you have to be level before closing the door.You better not decide that you need some thing out of the trailer when you have just pulled to the side of the road because it will not be level. I had to learn that and back up further to a level spot to close the door easily. I found I should always close the screen separately and gently before the outer door since it tends to hang up and can warp the hinge. I’ve read owners’ group statements that these screen door hinges get bent and need to be replaced from stock.
The rubber feet on your Murphy bed legs obviously need to be replaced with a longer footpad or at least duplicated to spread out the force along the entire rectangle contact patch of the leg.
I am actually finding its not about being level at all so much as it is about making sure the legs on the steps are set to the proper length. If they are set to high the door can get damaged if you try to close it or just not close at all.
We have the 2020 2509s and we love it. The only trouble we've had after 3 seasons are the refrigerator door face (user error) and the Murphy bed. We forgot to secure the refrigerator door and the banging during travel caused the front face of the door fall off, it's just glued on. Watch the Murphy bed frame/legs. We noticed that they were falling apart and I think this one was poor design or something was missed in the manufacturing, because the legs and part of the frame were just held together with long U staples (stuff happens). Luckily our dealer covered the as a warranty repair. We are very pleased with our trailer and once we get rid of the kids, we're looking to buy the 2516. Great couples camper.
Thanks for the video.
We just put the dinette down into "bed" mode while driving. Never had an issue.
Great attitude, guys.
Good video , my wife and i almost bought this camper but since we have no kids we purchased the Rockwood Mini Lite 2205s , now we must wait for months to take delivery ...Rockwood campers are very good and your issues were minor , dont let them spoil your camping trips ,,,BTW it is voila' LOL .
Congratulations on your new camper. Hopefully you get it soon. We definitely don't let the issues get to us, we love this camper. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thanks for sharing. Just purchased my rockwood and great to know of possible things to adjust or fix when time comes.
For cracked plastic piece hanging out at dinette seat base… I would put small pieces of Velcro to allow it to be kept in position. That could be easily separated if needing to remove cushion. :
Hi guys. Just came across your video. We have a 2019. Not too many changes in 2 years, but it was fun watching since we have practically the same trailer and we also love it! Only difference, is ours is the 2507S. This model does not have the bunkhouse... since we are retired, and kids are grown/gone we didn't need it. However, the 2507s doesn't have quite the same issues as yours. The outdoor kitchen is twice as big and has actual cabinets, so no problem with storage. Since there are no bunks, the bath is bigger with a linen closet. In the galley, the sink is set at an angle to the stove, so that creates more space between it and the table, so even with the slide closed, you can still walk to the bath. It's a tight squeeze, but not bad. Yes, the table folds, but standing it up right is a good idea for your model. Good call. But I will admit I had to LOL that you didn't know it folded at first.
As far as the side tables for the couch, we 86'd those b/c we never use them.
Have not watched many others of your videos, so hope this is not a repeat. But we did pick up one of the Renogy 100-watt suitcase solor panels and it works great keeping the batteries topped. With a 10ft cord, I can easily place it on the trailer roof above the bed and simply drop the cord down to the plug and get power and it's not in the way at all. Since it is the suitcase style, I can clip a rope to the handle and pulling it up to the roof is easy peasy.
Happy camping.
Nice ides on the solar panal, I will look into more of that. Thanks
We have a 2018 flagstaff sister to this trailer, we open the slide 6 inches to get to the bath.
So, no water damage, no leaky roof, sounds doable. Thanks so much.
Three winters and no damage at all. Thank you for watching!
Im not even an RV owner but Im very thankful for your service. Great job!
Thanks for sharing! Our 2509s should be arriving in January, and this really helps!
Congratulations on your new Rockwood!
What year did you get? 2022 had some great upgrades including the 12 volt fridge and solar panel that are now standard. I love my 2018 and i hate that it's holding strong and no need to get rid of it so wife won't allow upgrade yet lol. Rockwood and Flagstaff just last so long.
@@yankeesusa1 Ours will be a 2022 when we pick it up in February. It was ordered as a 2021 back in June with the DC fridge and solar, which is now standard for MY 2022. I did add the second solar panel to the build a couple months ago. It does look like Rockwood has dealt with at least 3 of the issues in this video. I will take care of the other items. Glad to hear your ’18 is holding up so well!
I would rather have the old fold up steps. Thanks for the tips.
I have not read any of the other comments so this might be a redundant comment on my part. Regarding your side table "bolt coming out" statement, I think you will find there is no bolt - the piece you pulled out simply screws back tight, with no missing pieces, like you did when you tightened the one on the other side. Happened to us and I promise you that is all I did to put it back tight - but be patient with how many times you have to turn it for it to tighten fully.
Awesome tips, like the table info.
Thank you
Got the same camper. Thanks for the table trick.
Always nice to hear from other rockwood owners. Thank you
We just picked up our ‘23 wildwood 25rbhl last week and oh man ! Can’t believe the quality has gone for shit so fast. So many deficiencies right from day one. Can’t believe Forrest river let trailer like ours leaving the factory like that there’s zero quality control. I’m not impressed with dealership either so many flaws and defect
That's a great video. Thankyou.
You have highlighted a number of issues that show how cheap and shoddy construction can be expensive and why RV warranties need to be better.
I was actually showing that all the issues are small. There are other brands out there that have walls that collapse on them. Compared to those brands I am very happty to only have small issue like I have had. You have to remember that these are houses that are constantly being pulled down the road and gping over bumps. Nothing will be perfect under those conditions. Thank you for watching.
Excellent information!!
Great video… Thank you very very much
Take some thin rubber tool box drawer liner and put in your outside storage compartment. I think it helps dramatically. Sorry, but your problems with the steps are 100% user error. Yes, you can easily damage something, but if you’re careful, not an issue and they are so much nicer than the old steel steps. I know it’s probably hard with children, I get it.
We have a 2022 2509s that came in back in September and we are really enjoying it so far with no real issues as of yet. For the bed legs we removed the round pegs and got some peel and stick felt pads at walmart and cut them to fit under the bed legs. What kind of gas mileage do you get with your Ram while pulling your camper? We just got back from our longest trip (200 miles one way) and our 2018 Ram hemi got down to 7 mpg. We stayed around 60-62 mph but it was very hilly the whole way.
That is an amazing idea to put the felt pads on the legs, we are going to do that. We get around 6-7 mile to the gallon as well.
Use 3M & command products for hanging, fixing things . Plastic stripe on dinnette
Car part stores have long handled magnetic end to retrieve medal things. Maybe u can get that nut that fell into your couch arm. Hope its medal.If not U could put something sticky on the end to get it & retrieve it like that. Ur little pole will come in handy. Gets screws , parts out of places
that are tight. ETC. I love ZIP ties, duct tape , bungie cords. Ladies zip ties come In. Colors.
They work great to tie tee shirts to a gathered side. Just gather UR t shirt on one side and zip tie it. Works great. I also have used ALAIEN TAPE. FLEX TAPE WORKS GREAT ON LEAKS. HOLDS TIGHT FOREVER. I'VE REPAIRED FLOWER ROTS ., PLACTIC BOWLS . SHARK BITES FOR PLUMBING. THANKS FOR THE HEADSUP ON POSSIBLE THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND..
I love the long magnet idea, and am niw a little upset that I had not already thought of that. We also use 3M double sticky for a lot of stuff. Thank you so much.
Thank you for the great info!
Thank you
Try putting the couch in a "v" shape to get your hand in there to put on the bolt on for those mini table holders.
I tried that and found no way to get to it. Ended up removing the recliner handle and was able to reach it through there. Thanks
Use a extendable magnetic retriever (for vehicles) and you should be able to retrieve the nut for your table.
Tried that, and the magnet was too big to get down the hole, but I found that when I removed the handle for the recliner, it worked. Thank you
Thank you!
I would not travel with water pump on so if anything happens with handles or fittings it May bd less mess.?
Also shut off everything before leaving for the day. My unit has a kill switch in outside compartment.
These trailers seem to be very poorly made. This is the 2nd video I have seen on this model. Thank you for sharing.
The point of this video is this. Amper is made well with only small issues. We have plenty of friends that have had serious issues after issues and have spent more time at the dealer then camping. We love this brand and will only buy Rockwood from here on out.
@@BassinNmore I think John may not have a lot of experience w/ RVing. The problems you had are so minor compared to other manufacturers. As you've learned, don't buy an RV if you can't fix minor stuff. All your problems are super minor and give me confidence as I go look at the Flagstaff trailers this weekend. All my research says they are among the best made. I previously had a toy-hauler that I took off-road all the time. Fixing trim and cabinets after every trip was the norm! Thanks for the video
Thank you
Rockwood/Flagstaff are on our short list of trailers to buy. Did you pay for a separate inspection of the RV or did you rely on the dealer's inspection to catch potential problems before your purchase?
We relied on the dealer along with our own experience and knowledge of campers. They let us do our own inspection and gave us as much time as we wanted with someone there to answer any question we had.
The Murphey bed will get old after a while. We have a 2503 and soon will be trading in for either a 2506 or a 2516
I am sure at some point it will, but for now we like have all the extra room in the camper while the bed is up to entertain our kids and any friends that pop in while we are using the camper. Thanks
What's the total weight of this unit. I live in Weiser moved here from Nebraska and have been researching campers that I can pull with either one of my trucks. 18 Silverado and a 99 Tahoe that's been heavily modified. Love ur videos. Happy camping
It is 5200lbs dry with a cargo capacity of 1500lbs for around 6700lbs is fully loaded. I pull it with a ram 1500 bighorn 5.7 hemi with 3.92 gears and 4x4.
Hi all, I just wanted to let y'all know that the light above the dinette table can become loose and fall down. We just experienced this ourselves. We love our 2509S!!
Ours has not fallen yet, but I am definitely going to check it now. Thank you
Great tips!
USE A DRINK COASTER INSTEAD OF A RAG ON THE INDENTS
I had the same issue with the flip up side piece, little to no glue on the one side...
My guess is it pretty common then? Thank you.
Great video looking at the one with twin beds (2204) how is your frame ? Do you the make of your frame? Have seen some ugly about the Lego frames.
I am in New Zealand.love your videos. I am looking at getting one of these soon. Wana rv seems to have the best price. But then I need to have it hauled to Savannah Georgia. Is there a recommendation on someone who can do a pre purchase inspection
I am not sure, but would geuss that there isn't. They rely a lot on the customer to find any issues.
Great video and tips. How much was this unit. ?
30K when we baught it.
@@BassinNmore thank you for fast reply. My wife and I are looking and been watching a lot of CZcams videos. Looks like a great camper for 30K. So stay away from Jayco ?
@@Jordan-jx6zc jayco is good as well, the only one I have personally see have big issues are the hideouts.
We almost bought a 2509S but ended up getting a Rockwood Roo 235s (hybrid) for the spaciousness (plus we like the canvas). It has the same table, and I've been folding it down for travel and placing it flat on the bed support stoppers, but it still shifts and slides a little during travel. I like how you put it on its side in between the stoppers. Can you comment on how yours has done when traveling in that position? Any movement or shifting? TIA!
It has worked great for us so far. It does still shift a little, but have not noticed any new damage at all.
Try velcro to fix the sitting Material that's hanging over
I will give it a go for sure. Thanks
It's understandable to have a few things go wrong, and many of these things appear to fall under "user error" or better put "kid damage" :). But there are obvious design/build quality issues. Is there a reason you don't take this back and have the dealer fix all of the build quality issues for you under warrantee? I would never fix build quality issues myself, there is a reason you pay higher dollar to get a good manufacturer (such as Rockwood) and that's to get the great warrantee and reputation. Make them fix it!
I like having my camper to use when I want. Take it to the dealer and they keep it for weeks to months wiating on parts, then doing the repairs. If something major happens that I cant repair I will take it in, otherwise I don't mind doing it myself.
@@BassinNmore Thank you for your input, your experience is helping me with trying to figure out what I want to buy. Your response makes perfect sense. It's concerning for me to see all the leaking points you had to fix, that should not be happening with a trailer at this price point and a company with the reputation I've been reading about. Would you still recommend this company to buy from?
@@8654ZuluFoxtrot I would absolutely recommend this company. Rockwood has one of the best reputations out there and is the reason why I looked so long for this unit. Campers fall apart. They get pulled behind you at high speeds, they bounce on every bump you hit, and they use different materials then a house to keep the weight down. I am very happy with our camper and the fact that our issues are all little ones. Our camping friends baught a 2021 hideout at the same time as us, and they had a wall in their camper completely fall over, the slide out has stopped working twice and their camper has been in the dealer for almost a year out of the two they have owned it. I wish you the best on your search and hope you find what you are looking for.
@@BassinNmore My Rockwood dealer, Razorback Camper Sales in Hot Springs, fixed all the warranty issues I had (door latch, cheap pass through latch, drawer fit, and a replacement for the converter) in less than a week. They had the WFCO converter in stock already! And they listened carefully, even over the phone beforehand and gave me an appointment in only three weeks this spring.
I have a question... will a kayak fit inside the trailer for traveling?
I am not sure you could even get it through the door, but if you could, I would say yes, there are several places you could fit one or two. We carry our kids kayaks on the top bunk.
Curious if anyone's had to replace their bathroom skylight yet on their 2509S. Our 2018 needs it and I'm just starting the research.
We have not had any issues with ours.
Hey guys, can you provide the dry weight of this trailer? We love your videos and it looks like this one is the trailer for us but we already have a 1/2 ton truck and I want to plug in numbers to be sure it will be the right trailer for us. Thanks.
I do have a full video on this camper as well in the link below, but dry weight is 5200lbs.
czcams.com/video/bg5Un85bE30/video.html
We've got the same trailer (2020) and tow it with our 2018 Chevy 1500. No troubles and LOVE the camper. Even went over the continental divide, albeit slow!
Velcro on the seat problem would help without having to spend a bunch of money replacing it
I will give that a try. Thank you.
How do you use the bathroom when traveling? It’s a trailer and no one should be in it.
you are correct, no one is in it. If you are no where near a rest stop and need to go, then you pull over and walk to the camper to use the bathroom.
Caution ⚠️ on buying NEW. My NEW Grand Design has been a total nightmare 😢
Its just one of those joys that come with buying new, lol.
Interesting. I thought Grand Design was supposed to be one of the best. I'm looking at an Imagine XLS or a Rockwood Mini-light. Leaning to the Rockwood right now.
What is your loaded hitch/tongue weight? Just curious. Thanks
Just over 900lbs loaded.
@@BassinNmore Thank you that's what I was figuring. Have wanted one of these but only have a 1/2 ton pickup and based on numbers I threw at it I am well over my trucks gvwr. Keep up the good work.
@@the_anxiousphotographer each truck is different. I am towing with a 2017 ram 1500 and my gvwr is 1470lbs. My friend has a 2016 ram 1500 and is gvwr is 1000lbs.
Watch Haylett RV CZcams Videos, Josh is great about telling you about these camper "tricks".
I have seen a couple of his, but I will go look for the tricks. Thanks
Thanks!
I don’t know how you can say you’re treating up with so many issues and already broken stuff less than two years old I am in the market for a trailer it certainly won’t be a rock with poor design poor fit and finish
Do your reaserch first before you buy anything that cost this much! The point of our video was to show how well rockwood has held up. I am not going to bash on other brands, but several of our friends also baught vrand new campers and have had their campers at the dealer for months to even half a year waiting for major repairs like the slideouts no longer working, to appliance issues, and even a whole wall falling over all within the first few months. So yeah, don't get a rockwood and after a couple years only have tiny issues like ours to deal with. Remember these are small houses on wheels bouncing around the road a lot, and we are lucky to only have the small issues we have had. Thank you for watching though, and best of luck in your search.
I love our 2020 2509s. This is our 3rd year camping and I have to say, rockwood makes a great trailer and every travel trailer is going to have problems because they take a beating going down the road!
This is the second video I’ve seen of this rv and problems . I won’t be purchasing that one
The damages in this video are all very small and inexpensive. The point was that you are hauling a house behind you, and it is getting beat up pretty bad with every bump you hit. We have had friends that have had a whole wall collapse on their camper, and we have only had small things. I highly recommend this camper, and if we ever do get rid of it, we will definitely be getting another rockwood.
@@BassinNmore I understand that, but honestly, we’ve had our travel trailer for 7 yrs, bought it brand new, and have not had issues like this particular make and model. We’re looking to upgrade, we are in Northern BC, Canada so our prices are $60000.00 to $68000.00 for the Rockwood. I don’t mind upgrades to faucets, etc because I want to, but if you have to because things are falling apart after a year, that’s a lot of time and money wasted
Is this serious? 90% of your problems are not reading the manual
The point of the video was to say that after 2 seasons of use we don't have any big issues and that our rockwood is holding up great with only small things that you can fix yourself and not have to take into the dealer for repairs.
Dinette table should in stowed position(bed) when traveling, that will resolve that issue
Campers are built pretty cheesy....all of them.
Yep
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@@BassinNmore I'm guessing he equates your American Flag shirts w/ Trump. Although he couldn't spell "Trump".
@@spuddoright1970 I guess? Lol.
High prices poor quality.
We all have our options and our favorites just like our trucks. Thank you for the comment, and hope you have a merry Christmas.
The things that were wrong were very minor. If you compare Flagstaff and Rockwood you'll see they last longer compared to many others. These are very minor compared to bent tongue like on the Springdale and even Grand design has more problems.
@@yankeesusa1 exactly. I will pay the extra money to have minir issues over walls falling down like hideouts do.
I’m a RV owner what can I say. Worst purchase and waist of money. Bad idea
Spend a ton of money just to find out it's junk
Its not junk. Its being pulled behind a truck at high speeds, and over some large bumps. I have seem camper walls fall in, slideouts stop working. The point was that the things wrong with ours are so small compared to others that we highly recommend it. Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you have a great day.