How to hide silver solder on copper.
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- How to hide silver solder on copper.
This video will show you how to copper plate your work so you can hide your solder lines or add detail to other metals.
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How to hide silver solder on copper.
This video will show you how to copper plate your work so you can hide your solder lines or add detail to other metals.
If you're looking for the tools and materials that I use, you can find them all on my Amazon list amzn.to/2UmTad4
*If you buy any of the tools or materials from my list I will make a small commission at no extra charge to you and it helps support the channel*
Yay!! Thank you so much for doing this video! I love how thorough your instructions are. So helpful! I'm going to try to first way you showed. Thanks again! I've wanted to know how to do this for quite a while.
freaking awesome ❤️🥰
what would you need to apply to an organic specimen to electroplate? like a butterfly specimen
It would need to be painted is something metallic or conductive so the power can slow throw it and draw the copper to it.
that's got to be the easiest way ive ever seen electroplating explained. great job!
Well thank you, I'm happy it came across easy to understand.
Fantastic instructions! So happy you've taken the time and shared this. Really appreciate it!
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Thank you so much. This is my first time electroplating anything because your instructions were so clear and coherent. I've got dozen of pieces where I'd like to 'hide' the silver solder on intricate copper pieces.
Thanks for a very informative tutorial, Randy! I’m definitely going to try the second version.
No problem and I hope it works for you. 😁👍
Excellent, thanks for the info, much appreciated
Sweet. Thank you.
Just the video i needed! Thank you!
😁👍 I hope it helps hide your solder joints.
huge thanks!
Thank you!
Awesome!!
Awesome I dig it. That looks great
Thank you 😁👍
Thanks for the informative and helpful video!
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You find the easy way to do work! I like it, Thanks.
Well thank you very much, I'm happy you liked it 😊👍
Thank you so much!
Oh my god! You’re a genius! Thank you for sharing.
Haha I'm not a genius but I thought this would be helpful.
Thanks your the best!!! I'm so happy i found your channel you're my new youtube jewelry teacher😄
Thanks and I'm happy to help.
Thank you! Great video 😀🌟😀
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You make to see everything so simple in the way you explain it and that is why I love your videos. I have seen other videos using this technique but some of the materials are different. I definitely like yours better because is easier lol. Thank you so much for being here and do so many great videos👍👍.
I try to make my videos in a way that it's like I'm talking to someone in the room showing them how to do whatever I'm doing. I'm happy that it seems like my work is easy to understand.
Is a very good technique, is like you said, like having your students in a classroom hands on👌. Thank you again and hope you have a lot of more of subscribers, you deserve it😊.
thank you so much. i was thinking of what to do since long.
Glad I could help!
Thanks so much, Randy! I’m just starting out, (2 years now lol - still have a j-o-b) I use mostly copper and I really don’t like those silver lines, to me they stand out like a glaring sun lol So thanks again for sharing your knowledge and talent❤️
No problem and happy to help
I really like this video! Very helpful, 'cause I don't like the silver solder lines.. Thanks again
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Thanks SO much for posting. I have a project that's rather large compared to jewelry pieces and that second method should work very well. I really appreciate it!
Happy to help
@@GomeowCreations Question: You didn't give any volumes, as in vinegar, copper and salt by weight. Does it matter? Or, do you just want blue water with "some" salt? Also, is the baking soda absolutely necessary? I'm a medical person and the general rule is "dilution is the solution to polution", which means if you rinse it well enough, then there shouldn't be an issue.
You just want it to turn blue to be honest I don't think you can really over do it.
Zep is copper sulfate. Thanks for sharing.
Hi. I know this video is 4 yrs old but I’ve been watching for a couple weeks to go over all the technics I’ve forgotten over time since I had to stop making jewelry ( due to my health).
I wanted to ask if you can do silver plating this same way? Thanks for making these videos they’ve helped me a lot on gaining back my confidence ❤
Excellent video! I have a rectifier but didn't know you could reverse the pull to get this kind of effect! Thank you so much
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You said distilled vinegar but then called it water, so I'm assuming distilled water?
Speaking is hard some time haha it's Distilled White Vinegar, here is a link to some amzn.to/313bx7H
@@GomeowCreations You're so right! Anymore when I do a CZcams video I just insert text on the screen later, otherwise I'm trying to read script and demonstrate at the same time! Impossible
Yeah I started doing that later when I got better at editing 😅
Thanks so much for taking the time to create this video! I would love to see exactly how you created the power parts in more detail, as I am not very knowledgeable in that area and don't trust myself to "wing it". (I'm sure that the insides of the usb charger cords are not as simple as a black and a red wire unfortunately. ) I'd also love to see you mix up the fluids to get an approximate idea of the quantities. So if you are ever making another set up like this, could you film it from the very beginning?
(For us dummies! Lol 😆)
Thanks again. 😊
Gracias
No problem 😁👍
Hey Randy how about a video on making a basket setting for a faceted oval ?
Great video! It answered my question on this subject exactly - so thank you for that! I have one follow up question. Does the liquid acid/copper solution have a shelf life? Can I use the same jar of blue stuff again and again over a number of weeks or months, or do I need to start over with a new solution every time?
Hi, thanks for your reply.
I want to weld a small iron hook on a iron plate and at the weld the silver solder will look bad (shiny), and that is my problem.
Thanks again
Spiros
I found this video interesting on the electroplating process
What I did not see you actually do was with the steel wool did you set a charge to solution or just drop it in i saw no wires to indicate what was being done inquiring minds want to know however I like the idea ALOT
I struggle with the search for a copper colored solder
And a few years now still nothing
This idea should work somewhat better then my results previously mentioned
THANK YOU FOR SHARING!!!!!!
I'd like to see you attempt to recreate the iconic earrings from Valerie And Her Week Of Wonders.
I had to look that one up haha, I can't really see the details on them. If you could get me a good picture of them I might be able to make them.
I use the electroform process to make jewelry. I use a similar solution except it has sulfuric acid and hydrochloric acid. I also plate at only 100 milliamps per square inch of material to be plated.
Nice, as you saw from this it is more mean to cover up the solder joins but I would like to look into electroforming some time in the future.
Nice video. Have you tried to gold plate anything before or is it something you'll consider doing a video on?
Neither one of my teachers knew this. Now I can fix that first necklace I made... YEA!
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I'm working on a copper countertop for a wine bar (wooden bar wrapped in copper sheet metal). To keep the bar waterproof, the seams between the copper sheets have to be soldered with lead-free solder (non-toxic). I'm wondering if we could disguise the solder color by leaving a pool of the copper sulfate/vinegar solution on the finished seams, with a strip of steel wool laid across the top?
Hi you making great videos thank your. I hav done like on your video, it was lots of wheres in cable but I used multimeter to find where is 5 volts coming out and no bubbles coming out, does it have to be 5 volts or maybe you have some idea what’s wrong
Just what i need i live in uk what ingredients do i need to look for. I saw copper sulphate is this suitable?
Make a video on how to join copper kada/Bangal with or without silver soldering..thanks
Thanks Randy, great video. To let you know that there is copper solder to solder with. I have a ring that is soldered with copper solder, several pieces.
I have used copper solder in the past and it always left a silver-ish solder joint so I just gave up on it to and just use silver solder and plate it. 😁👍
GomeowCreations I tried the copper solder from Rio and found that it leaves a silver solder line. I’ll try your plating method. Great video.
I had the same problem, I hope it works for you.
@@GomeowCreations The copper solder (from Rio) will turn silverish if you overheat it. Be gentle and it works great.
The steel wool probably works by creating a mini battery between the copper and the wool because they have a different reactivity and they are in a conductive solution (the blue copper salt)
Great videos ... was wondering instead of using a power cable plugged into a wall outlet would a cell phone battery pack charger do the trick ... looking forward to more videos
Thanks and yeah that will totally work and you can move it around.
@@GomeowCreations will have to give it a try
Or you can keep a separate pickle pot, add your copper piece, and place stainless steel on the silver solder line. Works for me--without all of the setup.
I use this method also, works every time. No messy set-ups
How do I place stainless steel on the solder line?
if I have my finished work and it includes a stone, it wouldn't damage it would it? Plus, how do you neutralize your sulfate solution? I keep hearing contradictory methods. it seems like no one can fully agree on what to do with the stuff. My general work area is not only mine, my entire family has access to it and they can be pretty clumsy and have knocked over my pieces before, even my stuff i have on my shelves or tucked back where they _should_ be out of the way. add into that that them letting kids go out there and play and it's just a mess. I just want to make sure everyone is safe.
Thank you so much for the helpful videos! Do you have any tips on soldering brass and hiding the solder line? Do you use silver solder on brass as well? Thanks!
Well if you want to hide solder lines on brass you can use the yellow tented solder. I have never used it but I know it's a thing. I have found that most people don't seem to care about solder lines in your work if everything looks clean.
Just use brazing rods for brass
Would this work for coating a crystal for a setting if I painted it with the special coating?
I don't think so, you need electricity and a lot of time to get it to build up the copper so it would work like a setting. You have the right idea though.
What brand of clear coat do you recommend? Great video!
Thanks and here you go amzn.to/3dPhM3I
Just wondering if you ever tried copper scouring pads like Chore Boys instead of copper foil?
I have hear of people using them 😄👍
Hi, I f i want to use liver of sulfur to finish my piece, will that hide the silver solder or do i have to copper plate it before finishing in liver of sulfur? Thanks Great videos by the way... keep up the great work
So the LOS will not really hide the silver solder line, so you will want to copper plate it before using LOS.
Nice job, easy for anyone to do, can brass be done any way
Thanks and you can't do this with brass but you can use yellow solder or you can apply brass with a brass wire wheel
@@GomeowCreations thanks
The copper plate on copper will become the same part? It’ll just be that part where it could lift, right? If I’m making sense at all?
If I am cleaning with a tumbler do I do the tumbler first or the plating first?
You would have to test an try it out with your work.
Can you store this solution to use again later for the same purpose? If so, what kind of lid? I'm using a mason jar with a metal lid.
You can and a plastic lid would be best in a class or plastic container
So if you do this with an off brand apple style cellphone charger (or other unknown charger), make sure you use a GFCI outlet, some of the cheaper brands have an unfortunate design flaw which may make one of the low voltage wires actually connected to the 120v AC hot wire of your electrical outlet (ungrounded conductor)... it's a nasty shock if you complete the circuit to ground with your body. To avoid this be sure to use an original apple charger 😉
Hallo, congratulations for your video.
I would like to ask you how can I hide silver solder from iron welds?
Many thank.
Spiros
Athens Greece
I don't think it would work for that. What are you soldering that uses steel and silver solder?
I have copper sulphate will that work and how much do I add to how much liquid.
I used added enough to turn the liquid blue, so you can play with that and see what works.
Did you try the steel wool method, but without the steel wool? My guess (I might be wrong) that it's not necessary. The copper ions from solution will switch places with more reactive metal (like iron) on the part surface. Well silver solder consists mostly of silver, which is less reactive than copper, but also of other metals like zinc, tin or lead, all of these are more reactive, so by my guess the piece of silver solder will turn red after simply being immersed in the copper salt solution. It will work better with the easy solder as it contains less silver. The electroplating just makes that process faster and makes it possible to plate even less reactive metals like silver, gold or platinum. But what's the purpose of the steel wool in this? Except for just wasting a bunch of copper solution. I don't have copper salt on my hands right now so I can't try, but if you did that that would be nice, I would really like to be proven wrong. Thank you for the video.
I will look into this and try it out for you.
Will this work with silver and or gold
What are the amounts to use 4oz of a etc
This will work on silver but it will only plate it in copper. As for the amount, it really doesn't matter. Just add the copper sulfate to the acid until it turn blue and add some salt.
How do you dispose of the steel wool
I let the acid devolve the steal and dispose of it with my other pickle. Check out this video about pickle. czcams.com/video/1mPAXsKXb1Q/video.html
Great video. How about using a transformer more than 5 volts...
It will probably work faster
@@GomeowCreations I am going to use 24 volt transformer and I will update you on the results. Thanks again my friend.
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I may have missed it but what is the point of the steel wool?
It makes the chemical reaction happen.
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I have found you can often hide a joint with a burnisher too
What do you mean?
@@GomeowCreations If you lightly sand along the joint with 400 grit sandpaper then rub across the joint, with a burnisher, it tends to hide the joint.
The original metal seems to fold over the top of the solder joint. Which hides it.
I am just a beginner and started making a chain. I found this method worked pretty well on the joints.
Question: I didn't use silver solder, but I did try the steel wool method on other solder and it's not working. Copper plated the steel wool, but not the solder. Is it because it's not silver, or because It's not the electric version? (only charging cord that I don't use is a solid core, no red or black wires)
It should work on what ever solder you used. Try pulling the steal wool apart a bit and wrapping it around the part that has so solder. You can also use the steal wool as a brush and apply the copper solution directly to the parts you need.
can i use citric acid solution for this?
Yep 😁👍
What are the exact measurements for the chemicals?
Measurements 😂 honestly no idea I just make sure it's nice and blue
I have a blue liquid root killer from our local noxious weed department, I wonder how that would work.
This is great for electroplating, and maybe I’m wrong, but wouldn’t it be easier to use copper solder paste rather than silver and then there would be no seam problem?
I have never had a copper solder stay copper in color offer using it. It always gives me a silver line so I just use normal silver solder
GomeowCreations thanks for the reply, it’s good to know. I just bought some copper solder and haven’t used it yet, will see how it turns out. This method of electroplating is good because everything is so simple to get, so if needed this will be a great backup for me.
Got a major frustration with soldering. If I manage to solder the joint, the joint never holds. You've got so many great ideas and I want to learn from you - but soldering gets me almost every time.
If it's not holding it might be due to it not flowing and bonding to both sides. What solder and flux are you using?
@@GomeowCreations its said to be hard solder
And what flux are you using?
@@GomeowCreations It says: solder flux - self cleaning, water soluble. Nasco flux.
Another question - you are using silver solder. Is the plating also working on lead solder?
Yes it will cover the solder as well but idk if it will work on lead solder or not. Also I hope your not using lead solder on jewelry 😅
Got a quick question for ya, Randy…. After plating your copper, can you oxidize your piece or do the chemicals interfere with the liver of sulphur?
You can was it off and oxidize it like you would with normal copper. 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations Thanks so much!! I’ll do that!
Yeah that will work or just rinse it off in water. The chemical you're putting on this is basically the pickle that you normally use to clean your metal anyways, it just happens to have a ton of copper in it
@@GomeowCreations Oh, that makes sense! Thanks for explaining it to me!
my pickle is vinegar and salt...can you put the steel wool in that and have it plate?
Yep
How do you know witch is the positive side of the usb?
Testing it with a multimeter would be the safest way.
@@GomeowCreations thanks, great way of doing that!
oh wow is this electroplating ? I have got to try this. where did you get the electric red black cord and what polisher is that ? You gotta make more videos like this on electroforming
Yeah, this is technically electroplating. I got this polisher years ago and I don't remember where I got it. The wire can be found at a local hardware or Auto parts store.
How do you hide silver solder on brass?
Why not use copper soldier??
Less options when it comes to different melting temps and it never looks just copper it will be a dull silver or a yellowish brass.
the blue crystals are copper sulphate crystals.
Yep. 😁👍
Could you be a bit more specific with chemical quantities?
I did it all by eye, the quantities don't seem to matter much as long as you have you copper and acid solution and it looks blue. 😁👍
Please excuse my ignorance, but I've watched the video numerous times & have read through all the comments looking for my answer. I've cut the small end off of both, an android and an apple charging wire and have peeled back the insulation only to find 4 more insulated wires and some bare stranded copper wire inside the android charger and 5 more insulated wires and a big wad of silverish colored stranded wire in the apple charger. My question is which wires to I solder to the alligator clips? Thanks in advance.
I honestly don't know but it sounds like you have a type c and lightning cord so it has a lot more wires. You can Google the wires for them but I suggest getting a cheap cable from some ware that happens to be a micro USB to make things easier.
Or if you have like $60ish you can get a bench power supply that would work a lot better
@@GomeowCreations I've got a rectifier but it's dedicated to my electroforming tank. I just wanted to dedicate another, separate jar, aside from contaminating my pickle pot, that I can use to quickly hide the solder lines. Thanks for your quick response, I really appreciate it and your videos.
Why did your piece look silver when you first put it into the solution?
It might have just been the lighting because it shouldn't change any color.
Dude. I like that you are making your own solution. But Copper sulfate? ever heard of it. That's the Copper salt that's commonly used in electroplating copper.
Yeah you can use that as well I was just trying to show what your can do with stuff you might already have.
I made the electrical way and I'm getting no bubbles. What have I done wrong?
Are you sure your getting power?
@GomeowCreations yea I plugged it into my phone to make sure and it worked. I soldered it like you did as well
The cord has 3 wires red black and white. Wite I'm guessing is a signal wire and red power and green ground
Honestly it's been year now so I don't remember what wires I used 😅
@GomeowCreations no worries bud thanks for responding to me never get feedback from uploader
Root Kill = Copper Sulphate
I tried the second method and it didn't work. Dissapointing.
Odd did you do everything the same?
I hide my silver solder on copper with a simpler method, takes five minutes. no messing with electricity.
Are you willing to share your method?
yes. please share
Put a small amount of pickle in a container with an iron nail then put the item with the solder to be copperplates in the the container, in about 5 minutes your solder will be copper.
DO NOT use this pickle to clean silver as it will end up copper. If this happens make up what is called a super pickle.
Or just use brazing rods for copper.... No need for this....
Yeah you can do that as well but even brazing rods are more of a silver or yellow color. They also don't come in different melting temperature that I know of. 😁
@@GomeowCreations colour and melting temp depend of the brand and compozition....you just need to experiment. Next time try higher curents and dont hang it in one place it has to be agitated and plating proces should be from 10sec to a 1 min.....1.2A LED strip transformer works well for me.
Please do not add music to any demo videos. It is so painful on the ears and very stressful. It serves no purpose at all. Natural sounds are soothing.
You're a few years too late on that. I don't use any music anymore because everyone complains 😅
Sorry but the word is pronounced SOLDer not sodder.
It is also called a SOLDering iron so why do americans mispronounce the SOLDer but not the SOLDering iron?
That's just how it's pronounced here but clearly you understood what I was saying. I also watch content from other countries and they pronounce things in a different way at times but I understand that is how it is and don't try an correct them to my pronunciation of the word. 😅👍
@@GomeowCreations but in every video i have watched whilst wanting to learn about SOLDERING hand made clasps for my crocheted and sewn projects is how i stumbled across this video today.
I live in the UK i am english born and bred and was really confused as the words SOLDering Iron is pronounced correctly but the the word SOLDer was pronounced SODDer...
Just an observation. Yes it is oddly pronounced and it threw me and irritated me to the point i thought as an english person i would try to help by pointing the mistake out.
Didn't mean to offend. It was an observation. I know the english language can be complicated.
P.s if i was speaking french and mis pronounced i would expect to be corrected by a french speaker to help me. :)
This might help www.circuitspecialists.com/blog/solder-not-sodder-the-story-behind-the-silent-or-not-so-silent-l/
Really I get this same comment all the time and it's honestly a waist of both of our time seeing that it changes nothing. I don't mean to be rude by that. 😁👍
@@GomeowCreations lol its ok... i had never heard it untill yesterday so i was quite confused.
My friend said he will give me some lessons in exchange for coffee and cake. How can i refuse ;)
Happy SOLDering to you from me here on the South Coast of Dorset :)
Happy crafting
I had know idea you had a video on cooper plating… Wow super easy… both ways super easy.. looks great I think like the steel wool the best… But using my pickle after I have contaminated it that is also another great idea so thank you for sharing this with us Randy… Michelle@aumi.jewels