Neil Postman talk in LA 1993/7/28 (VPRI-0131)

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  • čas přidán 18. 04. 2016
  • Neil Postman gives a talk in LA for Apple folks.
    Be sure to check out the second half, where he "opens" up and answers questions from audience interesting ways.

Komentáře • 75

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Excellent channel Yoshiki thanks for posting your material and other important archival material .

  • @ifinnature
    @ifinnature Před 3 lety +14

    One of the greatest speeches I've ever heard.

  • @petestevens3970
    @petestevens3970 Před 2 lety +2

    Postman’s always worthwhile.

  • @urbinamdm
    @urbinamdm Před 8 lety +20

    This is great, thanks for posting. There seems to be only a few outsiders to current technologies. I think exploring the downside of "computer technology" is a necessity, these days.

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 8 lety +16

      It is not easy to be a critic of technology and yet heard by people. Neil Postman's success (though one can argue how many people actually care what he needs to say) is partly based on his delivery; being humorous, and showing that he is compassionate about humanity, etc. There are others who sounds just being critical; but Postman is different.

    • @urbinamdm
      @urbinamdm Před 8 lety +6

      Some parts of the talk are really profound. When he says that technology changes fundamental things about us... A really amazing message... Thanks again!

    • @dandiacal
      @dandiacal Před 5 lety +2

      Part of that was Postman's immense erudition. He had deep roots in the humanities and down to earth sense of humor, qualities often missing from critics coming from only a sociological orientation, for example.

  • @chiunile
    @chiunile Před 3 lety +4

    such a great talk. thank you for uploading

  • @wilskr8
    @wilskr8 Před 5 lety +5

    The beginning of his talk is really brilliant

  • @onlinemiddleandhighschool3510

    Thank you for sharing Neil Postman at APPLE! wow!

  • @tablighibayans
    @tablighibayans Před rokem +2

    Excellent speech

  • @Michelle-xh3ih
    @Michelle-xh3ih Před 4 lety +1

    내용이 너무 좋아요! 감사합니다!!

  • @haraldwolte3745
    @haraldwolte3745 Před 3 lety +8

    40:00 Thoreau: Technology is just an improved means for unimproved ends

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for posting this. criminal it has such low views. got lost in the 'matrix' so to speak - of course as they don't want people to think about what they are actually doing with an iPad.

  • @Innerdiamond
    @Innerdiamond Před 6 lety

    Fantastic!

  • @pawnfish
    @pawnfish Před 8 lety +1

    This talk is great! Do you have more like this?

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 8 lety +1

      +pawnfish VPRI does not seem to have other Neil Postman talks but we have some others. By "more like this", what kind of topics or speakers are you thinking of?

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 7 lety +4

      As for Neil Postman, this is the only movie we have at Viewpoints. There are some other public lectures I see on CZcams and elsewhere. This one is unique as the talk was given a group through personal connection and has a lot of Q&A time that in my opinion looks more engaging.

  • @ericswiatek827
    @ericswiatek827 Před 3 lety +1

    Talk about a visionary.

  • @onlinemiddleandhighschool3510

    John Dewey advocated the "fearless classroom" and Seymour (mrentioned in minute 1 hour 35) says that "The computer makes the classroom more open " and allows students to take the initiative

    • @jeremybarriga9266
      @jeremybarriga9266 Před 2 lety

      pardon my punctuation and or grammar , but
      ive tutored native american college kids, who, cant read or write at the level once considered, (not too long ago) 6th grade and its pathetic. obscenely, there is no shame , either.
      read a ruler correctly, then work w fractions ? never.
      play an instrument? the asian kids seem to have a corner on the piano, and sometimes guitar too. i taught guitar.
      moving forward lets learn a wee bit of largely useless foreign language so maybe one day , i can order soup like a less than dignified, pandering fool and , wether or not i know how to respond to a question at myself, of course others will be deeply impressed and LOVE me like a walking postcard sent from america. or theyll roll their eyes and speak english to me because its faster and easier for them . business.
      computers or robots will eventually replace most tech jobs, godless techs are to be cast in the cold. they will be angry, bloated, and lacknig much needed skills to navigate past a single room existence or perhaps, doom itself .
      society itself is slowly being pigeon holed like a piece of irrelevant information

  • @onlinemiddleandhighschool3510

    We need to break this 100 minutes into 10 minute segments. Listen at one hour 30 minute....
    a classroom where everyone learns by mistakes
    a classroom is a place where you can make mistakes.
    if you had such a classroom, you wouldn't need a computer....
    NEIL POSTMAN

  • @CluelessEngineer
    @CluelessEngineer Před 3 lety +1

    1:00:35 "donald needed more information". That guy deserves joke of the year award. Nailed it.

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 3 lety +1

      Donald is I think Don Norman, and who said it is Alan Kay., who is the host of the talk.

  • @chelseabudzileni4126
    @chelseabudzileni4126 Před 3 lety +2

    July 28 1993 my bday

  • @kueichenglee7583
    @kueichenglee7583 Před 7 měsíci +2

    exactly!!!!
    20:20

  • @criticalthinker7822
    @criticalthinker7822 Před 4 lety +1

    TRUTH!

  • @lostsoul2184
    @lostsoul2184 Před 11 měsíci

    The best

  • @peggyharris3815
    @peggyharris3815 Před 5 lety +2

    1:10:15 What would he say today about cellphones? Lol.

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 5 lety +1

      It is certainly more true with cellphones! Right after that part, he talks about the AT&T ads. I've been looking for the clip but have not found it yet.

  • @rayjr62
    @rayjr62 Před 4 lety +3

    ...what technologies un-do to a culture...what a technology un-does is a subject that computer experts apparently know very little about....

  • @sonnylee8527
    @sonnylee8527 Před 4 měsíci

    I feel so unexamined ...

  • @DragonSpikeXIII
    @DragonSpikeXIII Před rokem

    36:20

  • @seanwebb605
    @seanwebb605 Před 5 lety

    When did this talk take place?

    • @OccupyConcord
      @OccupyConcord Před 5 lety

      When Google still had Americans working for "it "

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 3 lety +1

      As the title says, it was on 1993/7/28

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 Před 3 lety +1

      @@yoshikiohshima Well I feel silly now.

  • @midnighttoker1357
    @midnighttoker1357 Před 7 lety +4

    we now know the level of misinformation it can deliver

  • @garretttomlinson6921
    @garretttomlinson6921 Před 10 měsíci +2

    @34:00

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Nice. Replace "Computer" with "AI" and his thought is very much relevant today.

    • @garretttomlinson6921
      @garretttomlinson6921 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I actually bought two of his books, the end of education and surrender the culture to technology, can’t wait to read them.

  • @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777
    @SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Před 10 měsíci

    @15:00 a double edged sword with what Martin Luther proclaimed.. it enabled him to break down some of the lies being propagated and reaching common people - but when one lie is dissolved another replaced. Very tenuous - Martin Luther obviously a devout Christian as well (using that term Christian but they may not have used that title ).. just as Guttenberg so why was Guttenberg not horrified with HIMSELF??? LOL

  • @mprove
    @mprove Před 3 lety

    _with Don Norman in the audience!

    • @yoshikiohshima
      @yoshikiohshima  Před 3 lety

      Quite a few famous people were in the audience, I gather.

    • @mprove
      @mprove Před 3 lety

      @@yoshikiohshima After this talk you do not have to apply Postman's ideas to the internet age - you can use them directly. Thanks for sharing!

  • @smurfmama2020
    @smurfmama2020 Před 3 měsíci

    Now do now

  • @seanwebb605
    @seanwebb605 Před 5 lety

    Horrible camera work.

    • @omarpancoast2266
      @omarpancoast2266 Před 3 lety +3

      So what? Did you get anything from the ideas? ...or are you 27 years too late?

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 Před 3 lety

      @@omarpancoast2266You act like I insulted your mother.

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 Před 3 lety

      @@omarpancoast2266 Of course you realize my comment was a year old by the time you responded to it?

    • @J5L5M6
      @J5L5M6 Před 2 lety +1

      I 'watched' the entire thing with the screen brightness turned all the way off.

    • @greymanBB
      @greymanBB Před rokem

      @@seanwebb605 the content the talk talks about is the corrupting nature of the form…… the camera work, in other words, can afford to be subpar. Yes, I know I am responding a couple of years later. Blame the technology that makes it possible, if you must complain. To me, there is no sense of time in this medium. It is all in the PRESENT.

  • @seanwebb605
    @seanwebb605 Před 5 lety

    Terrible audio recording.

    • @nextoesc
      @nextoesc Před 4 lety +3

      Audio is ok

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 Před 4 lety

      nextoesc No. the audio is horrible.

    • @jnnx
      @jnnx Před 4 lety +4

      Sean Webb once you get past the non-mic’ed introduction, you’ll see the audio is fine.

    • @seanwebb605
      @seanwebb605 Před 4 lety

      @@jnnx Not as bad isn't exactly fine.

    • @GbengaOguntuase
      @GbengaOguntuase Před 3 lety

      It was more the odd piano-infused edits that was bad