The Church of England has "Lost the Plot" as it Considers a Gender-Neutral God & Human Composting
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- Emma Webb, Peter Whittle and Philip Kiszely discuss the latest bizarre developments within the Church of England, an institution whose radical woke agenda seems likely to lead to schism with the Anglican Communion's most vibrant churches in Africa and elsewhere.
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Appeasement is the ultimate cowardice.
In the Bible there is a list of people who do not go to Heaven.
Cowards are 1st on that list.
And cowards are first into hellfire!
If only Chamberlain knew that.
@@ReasonableForseeability Churchill is the one burning in hell for roasting millions of Germans alive in his firebombing campaign he initiated. Chamberlain tried to avoid war unlike the warmonger that followed
A reasonable POV but I mostly disagree. Thanks anyway.
The Archbishops and Bishops managing the Church at present seem hell-bent on destroying it forever.
They need to be sacked urgently, while theres still a Church left to salvage.
Hear hear!!
And out of the ashes there will be created a pollution control order
They're certainly Hellbound!
But the King is worse than them, so that is not going to happen unless they are literally caught buggering a Choir boy by the entire congregation. My hat goes off to the communists that have placed their agents everywhere of power, government, schools, military, universities, media, and police, there is no so-called authority that is not signing from the WEF hymn sheet. Satan's minion's rule.
Too late for that… it’s their Church now.
Sorry Emma.....the church long ago lost the plot. It isn't recent
Very true. Where I grew up in the North they are all now sold off or LBGTQ flags outside.
Yep !
I agree. It's just more laughable than ever.
It's a fake Church, history tells us this clearly no one even disputes it. The CoE broke away from the true Church.
Please do not lump all churches such as free churches (Baptist, Methodist, Free, URC and others) and many other independent churches under the same umbrella. They are not and are not woke either!
Well done for covering this.
Needs better research, though. Emma is a journalist!
This is ghastly. So dreadful. I would never have believed this would ever happen….the world has gone upside down!
We got captured by the Liberal paradigm in 1945.
This news is all exaggerated ,
@Evola's Sunglassess, EXACTLY SO!
stop worrrying it won't happen !
The bishops need to read their Bibles and not go along with cultish infiltration - we need leaders to lead, not join the sheep!
I'm an American and even I know the CoE lost the plot over thirty years ago.
Yep, it's enough to make you want to join the Catholics!
Here in Australia the rot began in 1978 when they modernised the liturgy. I stopped attending when I was told not to read the King James Bible even in private, as it's not inclusive of the LGBT community.
@@grannyannie2948 Well, at least you kept reading the KJB in private. They can't take away your private devotions - this isn't Tudor England!
70 years ago...
It is absolutely horrific, historically the church has stuck its nose into areas that should not concern it. This is crazy. Human composting is not to be tolerated.
Over the years I have seen the Church cave-in and cower in the face of moral challenges. They always come up with shrinking rationalizations when they should be defending what they claim to stand for.
You know what? You hippocrites tolerate very well how millions of fallen soldiers have rotten and composted away on the battlefields. Human composting is just great, it is an absolute fine way to become what we are: soil! Treat the living with respect! What a self-righteous, arrogant congregation!
@@elizafaulhammer9518 My grandad is in a grave in France having died fighting for freedom, he was composted. I have nothing to visit which is important to me because I respect burial, he had no say because the army said they had to be left where they fell. Don’t call me a hypocrite, you don’t know me and I have a right to my opinion 🇬🇧
@@lindajames7083 Very well said! You dont need to justify your opinion, ESPECIALLY to some woke clown
The church has a nose?
What you have now in the church of England is in effect two churches, one that has no confidence in the Bible and one that has complete confidence in it; it is the eternal word of God! Do not make the mistake of thinking that the Archbishops and Bishops speak for the entire church. They most definitely do not. If you think Anglican rather than C of E you will find that there are many millions of Anglicans living elsewhere on the planet. In the UK the churches that are alive and thriving are usually evangelical, which means simply that we believe the Gospel to be the truth and that it has to be lived, not changed. You don't mess with the word of God! This week Anglican primates in Nigeria and in Ghana have called on the Archbishop of Canterbury to repent or resign. Absolutely! There is much discussion amongst my Christian friends and as far as we are concerned, we will not comply with the unmitigated nonsense that is now being espoused. We follow the Lord God, not the ways of the world.
I heard the African church was still properly Christian
Yes, indeed Kelly. In the context of overall human leadership of the church, Archbishop Ben Kwashi of Nigeria speaks for me and I am English, approaching 80 years of age. I am ashamed of the leadership of the C of E. Ben Kwashi makes an excellent but tragic point when he says that all the thousands of Nigerian Christian men, women and children who have been slaughtered (by militant Islamists and Fulanis) for refusing to deny Christ, have now been betrayed (my word) by the apostasy and ungodly decisions of the C of E in UK, which do deny Christ. There is an excellent video available on CZcams of a discussion between Archbishop Ben Kwashi and a faithful Anglican theologian Lee Gatiss which will clarify and lament the whole business to you. It was recorded a few days before the recent Synod, but in full understanding of what was going to happen because the trajectory of the thinking of the C of E leadership is well known.
Archbishop Kwashi and many other faithful Anglican leaders head up GAFCON which stands for Global Anglican Futures Conference which stands globally, in opposition to the apostasy and heresy of those leaders who would accommodate to the ways of the world rather than standing firm and clear for the eternal truth of God as written in His word. I fully support GAFCON and thank God for our African brothers in the faith.
I think it very likely that a split will happen in the UK Anglican church because many of us cannot, and will not, tamely acquiesce.
Yes, and the churches that don't compromise scripture are actually growing.
Welby needs to follow Krankie and go.
ASAP TOO!
In most cases Jesus Christ is excluded from the church
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree- stick to the narrative.
He’s a freemason imposter.
There is a drive within education to push these twisted political ideologies..... hopefully one day these people will be held accountable.
Need to call them out, hope is good but it's not enough, everywhere you see creeping wokeness challenge those behind it, it's time to push back
@@shughy1 trouble is WE are too polite & timid. We need to remember when Christ whipped the money changers for their corruption of society 😢
“If the older generation can not get accustomed to us, we shall take their children away from them and rear them as needful to the Fatherland.”
Adolf Hitler, June 1933
Yea, well they will have to eradicated from their positions of untouchable power in pretty much every institution in western civilization , including sadly above all, the church. So wish us all good luck with that...
@@Law-of-love 💯
Jesus constantly speaks of 'His Father and His Father in heaven'. Plus, "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.” (Deut.4:2).
Also, " And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." (Rev.22:19).
The CofE wants to cancel Jesus of Nazareth for saying "Our Father".
😂😂😂😂😂
An abomination. Devil truly in church.
and calling the Holy Spirit 'He'
"If any thing is sacred, the human body is sacred"
Walt Whitman
Well, he was a homosexual and I think he might have had a different idea in mind as to why the body is sacred. And note that he was basically saying the body was the most sacred thing which is putting down God etc.
Try telling that to the that mandate the jab. Body autonomy.
I went to Westminster Abbey to prey, if l dident want to pay the huge fee to enter the Abbey, l was told l could walk around to a small side back door, and into a side corridor of the Abbey were 10 or so, chairs were placed up against a wall, this is how the faithful who wish to prey, are treated in one of our greatest places of worship.... The C of E like so many UK once great institutions, have become a farce and a National Embarrassment.... imo
The Anglican Church is in effect skirting around the Thirty Nine Articles, which says in effect that no one shall be denied access to a place of worship Charging admission is denying admission, hence the small restricted area for prayer and contemplation.
"My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves."
Yes you have to pay big bucks to worship God at Westminster Abbey........or opt for the pokey little corner away from the American and Japanese tourists who are parting with their cash in the gift shop .
I hope you meant ‘ pray’ and not ‘prey’ !
@@brendazolli3059 prey on little kids 😂
In great danger of losing Christ.
They never had him. And most of the RC Church lost him centuries before the Reformation.
I am an American Anglican, and my husband is a priest (ACNA). Thank you for speaking so clearly about the mess the Church of England is in. (Thankfully it is not the church IN England as there are many Christians outside of the CofE) Don’t be afraid to expose the corruption and call her leadership to task. BTW - Love Fr Calvin!
This people talking and defending the creeds and traditions of the church trying to avoid changes in those matters are “SIMPLY” holding on to something that never have been real in the first place. The church and its leaders always have done it in the past accommodating political tendencies with its own interests, they have invented the concept of burring the bodies instead of burning “BECAUSE” so they would be able to hold on to the responsibility of the ceremonies, cemeteries, maintenances of cemeteries, and so on and so forth, which always have been under the control of the church. Burning would mean, no expensive rituals or expensive coffin, from that which the church always have had its own benefits holding hands with the funeral mafia/industry. What the church is doing now just proves what they always have done. They are in control and keep turning or changing the way they control society. Not only the followers of the church suffer the consequences but the whole lot since government and church are part of the same controlling mafia. The church has to go lower and lower in its actions and perhaps one day this people will see with transparency the illusion of the church and the lies on which the church have it’s foundation. Every layer knows that every now and again, the lye needs to be retold but with the changes and adaptations based on its own agenda.
With all respect to our English brethren, the American Anglican congregation continues to stand against the dilution of our faith. It's saddening to see these things happen to genuinely compassionate people of faith that are led astray.
Cheers! Don't worry, we're not done yet. There are still some who stand with the global communion, and we won't go without a fight (in Minecraft)
Sadly my local Australian Anglican church has fallen. I stopped going when they told me not to read the King James Bible, even in private, as it's not inclusive of the LGBT community.
@@grannyannie2948 w.t.a.f.??
@@grannyannie2948 In the end, Jesus Christ always wins. I cling to that hope and try not to worry too much. Easier said than done!
@@grannyannie2948 That is not true of the Sydney Diocese in N.S.W. Australia.
They’ve lost their plot both on Earth and in Heaven.
Re schools. You heard Blair - "Indoctrination. Indoctrination. Indoctrination." Well, may be you did not hear that, but I did.
The Church of England has lost their way a long time ago. As has many Western Religions. 🙏😕 But, the good news is we do not need a church or organized religion to worship GOD. 🙂🙏
Where did you get that from? Check out the true church described in the Bible. Seek and you will find.
God being consumerism and mindless passive entertainmen
If you worship God then you must know His word and the fact He regulates just how He is worshiped. The New Testament spells out clearly the organization of the church, and how the called out should not neglect gathering and corporate worship. The fact that the Anglicans have been captured by the world doesn’t mitigate the Christian’s obedience to find a Bible believing church to gather with and worship.
Exactly, dear brother or sister in Christ. I belong to no denominations and am sola scriptura.
Where do you gather with Christian brethren to worship in fellowship as commanded by God? Certainly we do not need the Church of England or any mainframe religion that our King is the Head of! But we do need to gather together to worship although we can of course worship God in private as well but in both ways not only one way.
As for the Church of England or the Church of Scotland if they allow themselves to be deceived by saying “ all are welcome “ in order to embrace with people who won’t let go of their sins and call sinful lives good and blessed and dismiss the words of Jesus who is God Yahweh, then after those who gain hold of the Churches win their victory, they will push out all who are true believers and we will see that the slogan “ all are welcome” will no longer apply to everyone, but the winners will end the Churches because they will not waste their time with a Church after they have turned it into a den of iniquity. A gathering of Satanists do not worship Jesus, indeed they mock him and say vile things about him such as he was a omoH and a T rannie, amd even a pedoF, name it, they will say it, and already those Satanists are ruling in high places in the Church. They are evil and accursed!
Just before the pandemic, I attended a church of England for Sunday mass, in Hampstead, London. I was raised Roman catholic, however I did not mind the differences between the services. I stopped attending the Church however, because the Church of England is gone fully woke, and has been infiltrated by activists(those with blue or purple hair), who either preach LGBT propaganda or BLM propaganda and so on. The older vicars, are also gone fully woke(aka fake). The service had nothing to do with the gospels of Jesus Christ, but it was an indoctrination camp. I have been attending a Roman catholic Church since , just around the corner and I do not regret my decision.
Try St. John’s opposite the Freemasons Arms
Try the Jesuit Church on Farm Street. Family Service 10.00AM Tridentine at around 11.00AM get there early as it's so popular, people actually stand for it, who can't get a seat. Tends to be rather old, conservative Jesuits. Definitley NOT trendy, nor woke. Still doing Latin Mass too and they can't be stopped.
Yep we share the same religion and experience I done as you and visited a COE service on a few occasions over the years. But not now it's truly a woke camp I'm sure in the near future it will be compulsory to be homosexual.
Try the Wheatsheaf on New Street.
Jesus was woke, woke just means being inclusive
Othodox Christianity gives Christianity hope.
The church of England will never be forgiven for closing the churches during lockdown
It looks like they have lost their way, their faith, and the ability to comfort. Yes, the shutting down of the church during the plandemic was atrocious, which to all intent and purpose confirmed that they had no faith in God and his mercy.
During the pandemic Christians I know died of the disease. Some because they met with others rather than regard the advice of health officials.
My wife's a Catholic and my son is being prepared for holy communion by a very devout Catechist. Turns out she was church of England but has been driven out by the woke capture of the Church of England. The pope's rubbing his hands together it's been a few hundred years but it's coming home, Rome's literally winning the cup. Interesting to watch as an atheist.
Well if you ask me I have long wondered whether the current Pope was a Christian at all.......just my opinion.
@@daisuke6072 Indeed - in my view, Church leaders recognise the game is up, and they are clutching at straws to preserve their undeserved incomes.
@@daisuke6072 The Catholic church has survived terrible popes before, and has always recovered.
The office of the papacy is the anti-Christ.
Sadly there has always been corruption in religious circles and what they are teaching and accepting today is beyond belief.
The Orthodox Church of England is what's needed. The C of E is beyond saving.
There is a breakaway traditionalist church. Calvin Robinson of GB news fame is a Deacon in it.
Pre Vatican II Catholicism is what Christendom needs, our ancestors followed this for almost a thousand years and it brought our country great glory and riches.
Can't we enjoy the natural world without invoking the supernatural.
@@iainrae6159 if we look at the West it looks like we can't.
This is obscene. I'd rather my body be left out for wild dogs to consume.
Or left out for the vultures, as in Zoroastrianism.
I'd be ok with birds
@@kellysouter4381 but they go for the eyes first and even dead me would shudder at that thought.
What? All that fast food crap you've eaten all your lives would poison the poor animals! 😁🍻👍
@@richardwebb9532 There is even plastic contamination in the blood of polar bears. It's everywhere.
Almighty and most merciful Father,
we have erred and strayed from your ways like lost sheep.
We have followed too much the devices and desires
of our own hearts.
We have offended against your holy laws.
We have left undone those things which we ought to have done,
and we have done those things which we ought not
to have done;
and apart from your grace, there is no health in us.
O Lord, have mercy upon us.
Spare all those who confess their faults.
Restore all those who are penitent, according to your promises
declared to all people in Christ Jesus our Lord.
And grant, O most merciful Father, for his sake,
that we may now live a godly, righteous, and sober life,
to the glory of your holy Name.
Amen.
I say amen to the prayer above.
Grant, we beseech thee, merciful Lord,
to thy faithful people pardon and peace,
that we may be cleansed from all our sins,
and serve thee with a quiet mind;
through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Amen.
As someone who's family has been here for well over a thousand years perhaps it's time the Church of England was cashed in and we all got our share of the money and land that our ancestors we conned out of.
How can you claim your ancestor have been here well over a thousand years when you're surname is Irish?
@@aevans-jl9ym Grandfather was adopted, his Father was a member of the gentry who couldn't keep it in his trousers; however his wife, my grandmother, is on a direct line to William the conqueror similar with my maternal grandmother and my maternal grandfather was Welsh and they were here well over 2K years 😉
I'm Australian and my ancestors lived there more than a thousand I'm sure, they've been traced to the 1300s. But you do I hope realise that the Anglican church is much younger than a thousand years.
@@grannyannie2948 Yep, but most on the Anglican infrastructure and wealth was inherited from the Catholic church who were even more ruthless tax collectors.
@@ddoherty5956 And as I'm sure you realise, if you lineage is so long and proven, atleast one of your ancestors probably already benifited from the dissolution of the RC church.
I know in my family's case one of my ancestors was Henry 7 favourite tailor. From this marriage he became related to the Howard family which produced Ann Bolyn and Katherine Howard. He was rewarded with some monastery land. Using this he married a woman whose family claimed descendancy from Charlemagne. I disregard this as I modestly understand that in the Tudor times people made outrageous claims. A child of this marriage suffered an arranged marriage to an elderly man. As a widow she married by choice a man with a single manor house in Cornwall. And had two more surviving children. But by 1850 they were working class. Running a rented farm, and supplementing the farms income with working in mines. I'll say one thing for them though, despite growing up before free education the family was always literate. In circa 1850, three brothers, along with their wives and children emigrated to Australia, NZ and South America.
So tell me what your ancestors did for a thousand years ?
I am shocked to see that it costs 27 pounds to enter Westminster Abbey. When did that happen?
Ye gods
Chester cathedral was charging too and I went through by saying I wanted to pray, which was what I usually did on each visit. First of all it is a place of worship and prayer.
The Church is just like any other entity that needs consumers, they think going 'woke' will get more butts in the pews.
In that case they're sadly deluded. The only churches that are doing well are the ones that stick to their traditions including the Bible and Christian morality.
@@philiphumphrey1548 Agreed. It doesn't bode well for a deeply embedded tradition to go with the latest fad.
I left the Church of England back in the early 1990s. I could see this (or something like it) was going to happen back then.
What church did you go to then?
@@Sebastian_Snufflepuss Roman Catholic. Haven't regretted it, but it's sad what's happening to the Church of England.
@@philiphumphrey1548 catholic liturgy is wrist slitting stuff.
@@philiphumphrey1548 Why do you pray to Mother Mary?
@@PSG81 We don't. We ask Mary, Our Blessed Lady to pray for us.
.... and they wonder why our churches are empty!
As a kid l used to attend the local Catholic Church. Once a year missionary priests used to visit our diocese. They were very much fundamentalist and full of blood and thunder. They used to scream insults at the congregation, calling us sinners and the wrath of God would be the result etc. The church was full to the gunnels and people stood in the street unable to get in while the missionaries preached their blood and thunder fundamentalism.
Exactly. People want to hear a proper sermon. They want to hear the fire and the brimstone.
Calvin Robinson shocked me when he spoke of the bishops as, so it were, minions of the devil. But they are, literally. .
You'd think that if the Church of England wanted to achieve Net Zero, they'd stop burning all that incense.
I can't see what a burial has to do with net zero, which is a hoax anyway ...
@@elizabethfermor344 Neither can I. Mind you, the very concept of "dust to dust, ashes to ashes" does seem to imply some sort of return to zero. Maybe that's what the Church of England are talking about?
Visted a church in the City of London. They were burning so much incense we were choking and departed quickly. Further down the road we popped into Pepy's church and were "interogated" by some rather hostile church workers as to why we were there. My local church seems to have been taken over by some "cult" with odd looking courses. I was thinking of checking out the Quakers but I do love singing and praise. When I see Rainbow banners draped over the altar and all the gender stuff I really want to keep clear of the Church of England!
@@vintagebrew1057 Yes, our local church burns a great deal of incense too. You know what I said when I saw it?
"Holy smoke!"
@@vintagebrew1057 - you can never get enough incense
Some people are too disabled to go to church services, so churches putting services online keeps people attached to the congregation.
Water burial? Being boiled in a solution of sodium or potassium hydroxide in a pressure vessel. About 80 gallons apparently. The resulting soup in poured into the sewage system.
Environmentally friendly? The water treatment companies might have something to say about that.
Shows how little respect those advocating this abomination actually have for either Christianity or the Christian population of Europe.
Are they going to advocate this same method of disposing of the dead (IE: flushing their remnants down the sewers ! ) to Islamic and/or Hindu communities ?
"Leviticus 20:13:- "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
When a so-called 'church' is deliberately ignoring the Word of God (as shown above) written in the Bible some two thousand plus years ago; it's blatantly obvious that the 'leaders' of that so-called church have in reality sold their souls to Satan, and no longer represent genuine Christianity in any way.
maybe the synod should be asking why islam is growing and Christendom is declining.
@Crashinglikeamouse it applies to the western world as a whole. Even in Eastern Europe Christianity is not as strong as it could/should be. Thankfully it is strong in Africa and growing greatly in parts of Asia.
I absolutely love enjoying this programme. - please keep it up. It's not often that we get to hear common sense being discussed on any social media, let alone the mainstream media.
Human Composting? So what is burial exactly, particularly of an un-embalmed body wrapped in a simple shroud and placed in a wicker casket? Chemical sludgifying cannot be greener than that, although I suppose the sludge could be more easily sold to farmers to prop up the Church's finances. Pass the Soylent Green please.
And surely the carbon footprint of cremation should be the concern of the crematorium and the family who choose that form of disposal, not the Church
C of E "lost the plot" at its inception. and WE WANT OUR CHURCHES BACK !!!
Heartbreaking! The so-called Archbishop and bishops decided to walk by the world, not by the Holy Spirit.
'Don't mention the culture war' - wonderful!
May your God go with you .Great content as always.
Dave Allen was a brilliant comedian.
That water process seems so disrespectful and undignified. Desmond Tutu was the first person I heard of as having this ‘water cremation’ and it felt very sad. No need for this.
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 2 Timothy 4:3-4
The Archbishop of Canterbury (CoE) was booted as the head of the world-wide Anglican Community.
Honestly human composting sounds like it should be a Cannibal corpse song title . A horror themed death metal band … and the Church of England…
Soylent green can’t be that too many years off on the horizon at this rate
From bugs to boys. I'll be gone by then I hope.
Even non-believers see the CoE has gone mad and find it outrageous.
“I will build my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it”…Let’s not forget Jesus words, his prophecies and warnings…”…take heed least you be deceived…” God is on his throne and in control 🙏🏽
There was something to offend everyone in Fawlty Towers. That's why it was so funny. We were all in it together.
Peter Hitchens said the Church of England will reach its ultimate destiny when the lesbian Archbishop of Canterbury marries the lesbian Archbishop of York in church as full marriage ceremony and its blessing. I think they are right on course!
God created man in His image. Not the other way around.
Think you'll find that religions are man made, and boy does it show.
I think the whole world has lost the plot,or are frightened to actually tell the truth for fear of offending somebody.
Like a phoenix rising from the ashes, I wonder how long it will be until a new Christian church springs forth to offer that deeply rewarding faith experience again to the population in GB, and other western countries. Christianity isn't dead but it has certainly become unrecognizable and has lost so much meaning it no longer captures the excitement or support of younger generations. I fear a terrible catastrophe even worse than Covid will need to happen before we see the new Christians rise to flourish yet again.
Fawlty Towers no more needs remaking than the Mona Lisa needs repainting or Chartres Cathedral rebuilding.
Totally agreed on that. However, the impression I had from hearing JC talk about this is that it's not a remake; rather a sequel. I think there is lots of scope for this, as long as he has free rein.
It's the final death nail in the C of E church I think.. !!. We buried mum a few days ago. it was a wonderful service by the church. I can't think of anything more disgusting that let a body to rot and wash away their remains.
God is not a man or a woman, God is a spirit and they that worship God must worship in spirit and in truth.
The Archbishop of Canterbury after watching the movie SOYLENT GREEN: “Now, THAT is a BRILLIANT idea!”
That was an awful film. 😂
Church of England congregations are a strong-willed people. They have an indomitable will, -- a will to lose. Otherwise, they would be shouting down Welby at every opportunity and denouncing him as an agent of God's enemy. You can't save people from themselves.
I don't know, I think half the congegation, or more, have gone woke, supporting gay marriage, BLM and Climate change protesters. C of E used to be called Tory party at prayer, now definitely the left wing woke brigade at prayer, if they bother at all !
@@mistymoor7114 Apostasy, which the Church used to burn people at the stake for.
If the CofE changes the Lord's Prayer, I shall not attend any parish where that happens because they will have effectively introduced a new religion.
Hundreds of genuinely Christian clergy from the Diocese of London met the bishops last week to state their clear opposition to the unbiblical agenda that has taken hold at the top. It should come as no surprise that these faithful ministers typically pastor the thriving London C of E churches. If the non-Christian bishops don't step down or repent, this large group of clergy will look to find other arrangements for their churches - probably within global Anglicanism but definitely outside of the theologically liberal Church of England.
Maybe one episode of the new Fawlty Towers series should be about a C of E bishops' conference coming to town. Due to the local Anglican conference centre's limited capacity, a few of the liberal woke bishops are forced to stay at Basil's guest house. Plenty of material there for Mr Fawlty to rail about.
👿 2 Questions :
1) Why would ANY LGBT person want to be a part of a religion which condems them. 😕
2) Why would ANY LGBT person want to be part of a religion which permits Man to CHANGE THE WORD OF GOD in the commandments? ⛪ 💒 ☦ Actually, why would anyone want to be a part if a religion which takes the word of man over the word of God?
"Leviticus 20:13:- "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Byzantium was debating over the sexes of the angels when the Ottomans were battling at the city walls
As a Christian. The CofE has been dead for a long time. BE ASSURED GOD KNOWS. The bible is full of the teachers loosing their way into pagan worship ... and the consequences. We have always struggled to walk with God accepting our fallen nature's that need Jesus to save us. It is sad to witness.....God's heart will be saddest.
What I find so honorable and commendable about British Christians (church-going or not) is their ability to have these discussions in such a civil manner, and respectfully and calmly on topics such as anti-doctrine. This is impossible among Muslims, and rare among Christians in the United States.
"Lost the Plot" is a very apt Pun
Time to come over to Catholicism Emma!
This is why people should read the Bible for themselves and shun these religious establishments. I remember back a few years ago when the church spoke out about chocolate easter eggs and how this was on the radio, newspapers etc. But when it has anything of true importance to speak to the people of, like war they stay silent. I had a vision back in 2015. In this vision it was dark and desolate. I was floating through the air above the houses and when I looked down all I could see was large pieces of broken church sand stone scattered through the earth.
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 1 Timothy 4:1
Compositing used to be called burial. As you correctly say you cannot use the plural pronouns because that would mean destroying biblical teaching of the Holy Trinity. The problem with a weak and apostate CofE is that it affects the moral and therefore the financial wellbeing
of English society. A return to the strong biblical based teachings of the past may cause anger and offence but it gives moral leadership that will resonate into English society as a whole, reducing crime, divorce and number if babies born to unmarried mothers eventually saving the Exchequer £billions. Evidence for this is found in our society up until the end of the 1950s and the Welsh revival 1904. The CofE is leading England into financial ruin.
I have watched Justin Welby rather rapidly destroy the C of E. He is a disgrace to the awesome title of Archbishop of Canterbury. Is there any way he can be removed? He is letting down the true believers with his disgraceful antics. Long ago I wondered if he was a true believer and follower of Christ. He has to go before he does more damage.
A friend of mine who attended church every Sunday purely beca he enjoyed the sermons and singing , he told me he didn’t believe in God but later he became a Church of England minister.
Sure, and now he's a Vicar baptising everyone
Reminds me of the movie Soylent Green. If you've seen it, you've seen it... Just one step left.
Human composting used to just be called plain old ‘burial’. OMFG *insert eye-roll here*.
The New Fawlty is not going to be on the BBC.
Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my father,
and I too will love him and show myself to him!
Thank you 🙏 pls never STOP!
I really believe that Justin Welby doesent believe.
This is a bizarre idea, but I'm not yet convinced that "The Church" has decided to compost humans, nor that it's their decision, nor that the environmental benefits would be so great. This conversation seems weak on all sides.
You can’t compost humans if they eat meat….there was a discussion about this a while ago…just like you don’t put meat on a compost heap!
@@jenniferbate9682 Fair point, but I thoroughly doubt they'd be thrown onto local heaps.
@@jenniferbate9682 I've watched the 'ask a mortician' on this. It sounded like a great idea to me. It's only like getting someone's ashes surely? Things are added to the body to make sure it breaks down properly. You only compost slower in the ground and in a stupid great polluting coffin. I thought it was a good idea tbh.
A PRICELESS JEWEL
The conjugial inclination of one man to one wife is the jewel of human life and the depository of the Christian religion.
- Emanuel Swedenborg, "Conjugial Love", n. 457
I thank God I was born and raised a Catholic.
Francis has perhaps started to move in directions that are not sitting well with me but nothing like this non religion.
What does John 3:3 mean to you?
Time for Anglicans to see the Light and cross the Tiber.
Why would anyone move to an apostate, gospel-less dead satanic system? RC was lost long before the reformers.
😂😂The amount of money it will cost to change all the stationary alone will bankrupt these fools. Morally too. What about the environment? Do they not remember the prayer book rebellion.
I would suggest the Prayer Book Rebellion, along with the suppression of the Pilgrimage of Grace, is a perfect example of the brutal and ungodly true reasons why the C of E exists at all. Political 'convert or die' for the English, the same as the earlier Act of Supremacy, and not too dissimilar to the methods of ISIS today. What a way to force a state religion upon its oft unwilling people.
@@asketikoscg Don’t forget the question of language. Kernow still exists. I’m not sure about the same in Devon.
This level of madness is unprecedented
does anyone else remember the python sketch where eric plays a c of e door to door vicar who is completely obsequious and servile, makes a very quick weak attempt to sell the faith, and then promptly leaves...
Makes me want to be a Catholic
Come home across the Tiber sister to The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church you will be most welcome.
Definitely recommended!!
@@davidmansfield1796 don't you guys pray to Mother Mary?
GOD protect us from the church of England that seem to have forsaken the word of God.
As born and raised Anglican and the son of a late Bishop of the Anglican Church I am absolutely flabbergasted by this recent developments in the church. My father would turn in his grave if this is the new direction the Anglican Communion is taking. Shame!
Faulty towers can't be as disappointing as the open all hours reboot.
Fawlty Towers was a much better comedy. Stuff that up- as Cleese has stuffed up all his comedy after A Fish Called Wanda- and you've ruined a truly great comedy.
Welby needs sacking....!!!
I am Church of England clergy. Jesus is my Lord and Saviour and my everything. I believe! He is loved and served by many faithful clergy and congregations in the CofE. It is so gutting though that there have been moves away from orthodoxy recently. Please pray for the leadership to return.
There are many Christians and churches within the Anglican tradition in the UK that are mortified at what is going on. It likely will spilt the church. I think those Bishops and Welby should leave, but it's more likely that the church I'm with will end up leaving. We need all Christians prays.
I think Welby and co are freemason imposters
Henry VIII started it just so he could switch up wives. Was it ever viable? This has been a long time coming.
As the actress said to the bishop.
That's what you get when you found a church on the family values of Henry The Eighth. - Christopher Hitchens.
Learn your history: Henry VIII didn't found the Anglican Church, his daughter Elizabeth I did! Henry broke from Rome and founded an independent Catholic Church.
@@TJ-kw8ct What about the Calvinist King Edward VI?
Mr. Whittle...you've left out blessing of same sex marriages that will eventually lead to actual marriage, as it did in Canada and the United States. Selective outrage, perhaps?
Regarding the question of whether God is 'he' or 'she', it's worth noting that the New Testament itself deals with this. The beginning of the Fourth Gospel shows that out of logical necessity the problem doesn't arise. That is because the God that the writer is concerned with is to be defined in terms which he sets out carefully and methodically in his introduction, or Prologue, to his Gospel.
Unfortunately, most people, including church attenders, aren't willing to take the time and trouble to understand that Prologue, or anything else in the Bible. They are so ignorant of it that even the Old Testament is new.
The irony of the church of England now reaching to all sectors of society but they basically refused to reach out to the majority of the population back in 1970s & onwards at the starting point of it collapse ( however it could be argued that bible declared in the end times there world be a great falling away )
On the point of the desposing of the human remains, all things are no problem God, for he counts every hair on your head..
Theologians: Did you mean, Mythologians!? 😂
Oh man, you are a riot. Do you do standup?
You're obviously totally ignorant about what Catholic theologians study. I take it you personally don't have a theology degree, yet alone a masters or Doctorate of Divinity? I do, so I think it's time you stopped with the pathetic insults to us. Even the worst of rappers would have rejected that rhyming as just too crass.
@@heathermcdougall8023 Nonsense.....Utter nonsense of plagiarism.
Read some Christopher Hitchens or Richard Dawkins.
Science has disproved religion. Same way it did with Mythology.
However, religion remains ugly.
A doctorate in....Theology....😂😂😂😂