Stationeers Biofuel
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2021
- This is something I dismissed as garbage when it was first introduced into the game, but now I must eat those words because biofuel works. It might work a little too good. But here is the foundation for a self sustaining space hippy colony.
Some numbers:
The base was using 2.2kW
I was only burning half of the produce and 4 rice plants was enough to keep the battery charged.
Arc furnace will draw 16kW depending on stack size.
Different foods produce different amounts of biomass but have different growing times, not sure what the optimal formula is but I am sure someone has worked it out.
Harvie setup:
• Stationeers Automated ... - Hry
Thanks to your sterling efforts at bringing this to everyone's attention - loads of people are going to switch to biofuel, and in the next update, the devs are gonna make it the most underpowered power source in the game. This will cause lots of gnashing of teeth and a huge spike in Stationeers-based self harm incidents around the world! :D
Disclaimer: Cows are not liable for any potato incidents arising from this video.
this was great! I thought charcoal was just a wau of getting rid of excess plants, I never thought to check if it was net positive.
Not sure about the other plants but 1 pumpkin gives a full stack of 50 charcoal
On Venus you can go straight into a furnace from the recycler. I have a recycler feeding into an open furnace. If I need a little power a drop some ferns into the recycler and charge up the base batteries.
Awesome thanks for the videos. Will add this to my base very soon
It also matters how quickly the charcoal is burned. A stack of 10 burns for a lot shorter time than burning them 1 by 1. When it's burned slowly, a single potato will give 1.2 MJ of power (20kJ per tick for 6 ticks, and each potato produces 10 charcoal). So 8 potatoes can fill a large battery with a little patience. But none of that is important. What is important is making alchohol. The humble potato has yet to unleash its true power!
You could easily automate single charcoal feed. Whats the end difference between burning a 10 stack and burning 10 1 at a time?
@@mikebell7813 I got 440kJ from inserting a stack of 10 at once. It might not give the same each time. But that time it was 37% effective.
Burning 10 charcoal one by one with 7 ticks (3.5 seconds) apart seems to give the most energy, the total energy fluctuates here too and I can't say how much it is on average. I did one measurement and got 1.52MJ from 10 charcoal. I think that's the highest I have seen. That was 127% effective.
@@ketrix1594 thank you for the info, that makes me wonder on coal burning as well. Ill absolutely augment my setup for single feed now
True, we need an ethanol generator.
Wow.. never knew this was in game! This changes everthing!
I would say this will be nerfed but after the addition of the mining rocket its clear the devs intend high positive yields. Consider the Op'ness of trading as well.
Its my guess ( i hope im right ) that some very hardcore events ( optional per save id assume ) are going to be coming to be able to balance and actually make use of the easy to obtain extreme net positive systems
Very cool, thanks for the vid!
Oh hey sidenote i just found out after setting up a system.... Charcoal stacks to TWO-HUNDRED !!!! so your silo will hold 4x as much as it would for Coal :D
Im pretty sure this is going to be my power loop going forward. Windmills are loud, im not a fan of repairing Solar Panels though eventually i do just make heavies but still. GFGs are just ... #eyeroll, ... dumb to setup. They somehow produce more heat energy than a nuclear reactor ( I still use them but meh ).
I didnt know charcoal existed in this game. They should add additional recipes to make steel from charcoal and medium X filters from charcoal.
I try to dedicate a small greenhouse to this type of production👍👍
Good job
lol "medicinal'. nice to know about the charcoal thanks
Mother of god
Hey, great videos! Can you do one on setting up and automating SDB Silos? Something I’m trying to do myself and could really use the help!
It's on the list.
I am actually surprised you didn't do an output comparison of 1 piece of dinosaur to 1 piece of charcoal in this vid since you like to drill down to those levels, either way, still a great vid. if only you could turn the dead hookers in to biomass for fuel you'd be set for power.
(I might do said test tonight and post results coz now i am curious)
The dinosaurs are more powerful which is why I haven't bothered with this before. The real test will be what is best plant to grow. Grow time vs biomass yield.
Wow. Nice work. If you can grow 9 plants under a 300W grow light (which is technically the only power input to the system if you're not using sunlight) would it be net positive?
Rice plants were producing over 1kW each. So extremely net positive.
hey Mick, I love your Vids. Keep up the good work!
actually, I have a short question. Does ice still melt in chutes which are incased in a fully welded frame if the outside temp is above 0°C?
I have not tested that.
Great video, thanks!
Can you tell me how the pressure and temperature control is done? or how can I download a map with a greenhouse to see how everything works?
All of my bases on the workshop have working greenhouses with temperature and pressure control.
Chack my other videos for pressure and temperature control systems.
add gas capture from the generator . it will produce the CO2 you needs for the plants. Has anyone checked to see what out gasses from furnace when making charcoal?
If you are on Vulcan, you can harvest the hydrogen and make water with the combuster. Then you never have go outside ever again. The CZcams dream.
@@cowsareevil7514 This is what I was thinking. Automate water creation and factor that power into your setup and see if it is truly self sufficient.
I'm trying to build this. Not sure if it's still possible with all the changes lately.
How do you refill your harvey? Manually?
Is this still working with food decay?
It still works. Plants don't produce as much biomass anymore so you will need more than 2 plants to power your base now.
This setup is a manual refill but you could easily get the sorter to send the seeds back into the inputs.
@@cowsareevil7514 Thank you for all your help. It was like I was too afraid to even try Mips before your tutorials. Now it's so much fun trying to figure it out.
I enjoy the experimenting too. Modifying your design I tried to write to multiple harvies using the sb command. DIdn't work. Then I noticed the harvie I used had a different hash so I went and changed it and you'll never believe it. Yup it still didn't work. Was still fun though.
Scraping that project I moved on to just trying to get the harvies to harvest seeds when seeding. They kept trying to harvest even when they finished taking both seeds already though. I noticed you put in a check in the harvest section to make sure a plant is there. I figured I could check the seed quantity and put in the same check but even that resulted in the same behavior. Endlessly harvesting seeds that are no longer there until the next growth phase. I think the problem I'm running into there is "seeding" is found in logic but no logic slot section? So yes even when the plant has 0 seeds it still shows as seeding but there isn't a slot to count the quantity of seeds. If I expect a constant though then hand fertilizing would break the automation.
Another fail. Did I mention it was still fun though? hahaha
I gave up a ripped it all out unfortunately. Well I didn't give up. I figured if I'm going to fail I may as well do it spectacularly. I'm building a gas furnace! I'm sure nothing bad will happen.
The devs still need to do a bit of work on the seeding logic. I used a counter to count the seed so it stops after 2. Then reset the counter when planting a new plant.
If you just get harive to collect 1 seed and then use a sorter to immediately send the seed back to the input, you have a set and forget power plant.
You play latest public version? Not latest beta?
Wow. I knew bio fuel was in the game but never thought of using it.
Now I will. No more mining coal to burn, messing with solar, waiting for a storm and so.
Thanks for making these info clips.
Questions.. can you show how to automate the filling of the harvies and to run the power generation only when needed? In this setup.
he has an automated harvies chip on the workshop. and there are a million ic codes on workshop to control generators.
You can use sorters to split the produce among the harvies for replanting. But the rice stacks to 60 in the input slot, you only have to refill it about once a week, so I didn't bother.
Thanks for the response. I know how to build system in stationeer. Basic logic is oke. But the ic programming is not my thing, yet.
Doesn't this setup get blocked if the gen runs only when the battery is low?
The system will back up so that is another reason to keep the generator going. The sorters will split alternate outputs in default mode with no programming.
Yet another game that thinks that the way to make a game fun is to violate the laws of physics.
Maybe if you had to grow them in sunlight to get more out than you put in I could buy it.
Problem is that plants grow MUCH faster than IRL. Growing a potato IRL requires few month, not a single day.
@@voidseeker4394 It's rare to find a game that includes plant growth and has a realistic growing period. Even things like Stardew Valley and Harvest moon cut it in half.
If plants in games took a realistic amount of time to grow, players would plan for food. As it is in this game people forget about food until they run low, then plant it.
@@ancapftw9113 If you want realistic time growing potatoes just go outside and plant some damn potatoes
@@Rig0r_M0rtis I did. But I also want a game to be realistic enough that it isn't completely broken.
@@ancapftw9113 This is a bug obviously. The game is still in early access