Glad to help out. I will make a video of the lift cylinder soon. Yep I had to remove all three gear clusters as all had broken teeth. It was very easy once I got the nerve to remove the first one. LOL. My best advice is to have two parts cans. Keep one on each side to remember where bolts go. Great trick. Please forgive me if I call something by another name. I just do the best I can. Please feel free to ask any questions as I will be glad to help out.
I just repaired the 2nd gear in a 8n. And I guess I should have got a book on it first. It is a simple thing to replace the gears but I DID NOT KNOW how much gear oil there was it one.. There is about 8.5 gallons! And when you have a 5 gallon pan to drain it in you make a hell of a mess while you are trying to get the plug back in LOL.
You're right; very little on YT for this sort of thing. I have a 1963 Ford 4000 Select-O-Speed that I am restoring, and I cannot find much on YT for it. I am winging it, using YT, Ford Shop Manuals, and good ol' hillbilly farmboy know-how (spent 40 years in heavy industrial maintenance, so common sense is the best tool in the box). At this time, I need to replace the transmission input shaft before I can continue. Thanks for the video and taking time to make it.
Really good job of explaining how us "shade tree" mechanics got our degree in engineering. We graduated at the school of hard knocks. I like your video.
thanks, i am thinking about buying an 8n with a side distributor and this really helps. I was concerned about the tranny as i was the only repair video i had not seen. good job
Great vidio, thank you! I would have liked to see all the steps you went through to get it to this point but I understand the effort in filming that would have taken. I recently purchased A 8n and am planning on an exstensive restoration so I can use the tractor for gardening and general use. Thank you very much for sharing your interest with us 8n amatures so we can have A better understanding of the systems on this tractor. Sincerly, Shawn Daniel
A few years ago, I put 90 wt in our 8N, won't pump in the winter. It's due for some new parts. We deal with N- Complete Ford Tractor parts in Wilkinson, Indiana. I am going to replace the piston, piston O-ring, relief valve, a few gaskets and the cylinder (if it is scored up)
Yes you can. Just a piston under the plate. Order the rings for it at Allstateagparts. I think they are about $10. Remove the rings buff the inside with some 000 steel wool. Replace. Also Order a new gasket for the plate. Clean that very good. All Hydro pressure runs through that. Good luck.
This is the only video I’ve found with a complete breakdown on an 8n. I appreciate you uploading this video for everyone. I have fluid leaking from the front cotter key and need to replace the seal. Do you think the front input shaft seal is all I need to replace or is there another seal inside the transmission that should be replaced as well? Idk where that seal is or how it’s done but am going to split the tractor soon and all information I can get would help a lot.
No problem. remove the round side plate where your PTO lever is. Look in at your pump. On the very back at the bottom its a pressure relief valve looks like a sparkplug. Order one from Allstateagparts. $20 I think. That should do it. Very easy. Good luck
great video. it's nice to have a reference for those of us about to tackle the same. For a great resource on how-tos and manuals/photos/etc, see ntractorclub too. There's a great repair manual in there for the hydraulic lift. Looking forward to your lift video. Thanks.
Michale. Do not use 90 Wieght. Your tractor used standard Hydroilc fluid in all three chambers. Transmission ,Gearbox andHydrolic lift. Should be one common filler cap. You can pick up a 5gal container at Trcator Supply , Atwoods or and Farm and garden. Just make sure its non foaming. Good luck my friend.
Sounds very simple . If you take the top plate off where the shifter is just raise it up off the tractor. Look at the shifting fork that it attaches to. I bet its just bent a little, Just bend it back stright you should be fine. Your just over meshing the gears. Nothing bad wrong at all I dont think. Good luuck
as i watched your vidio i noticed that you said that the tractor used gear oil and it will lube the whole tractor .i would like to say that the tractor has 3 points to drain , witch this tells me that there is 3 differant oils and ofcorse please don't ever us ear oil on lift hyd. if you have any doubt about my advice. try replacing the power steering fluid with gear oil in your truck
thanks for the video. I just found it. I got my 8n from my dad a few years ago. I don't use it much because it's way to fast. first gear low range is about 10 miles an hour. where can I get a gear reduction and how do I do it. I'm a descent mechanic so I'm sure I can do it just never spit a tractor before.
On removing the top gear set on the transmission, would removing the bolts off the side of the transmission should allow me to get the top gear set out?
I could not find a set screw that you referred to. There is not shifter pin left to speak of. If has totally deteriorated then I would need to know how to release the shifter and get it out to find and remove the old one. Thank you again...
Hey there, great video. My 1952 8n is leaking hydraulic fluid where the transmission and engine come together. I assume that means the seal where the spline comes out of the transmission is bad. In order to replace that seal do I have to disassemble the transmission or simply split the tractor and replace the seal from the front?
Hi their, very good video, I have a 1951 ford 8n tractor gasoline 4 cylinder flat head. I bought the tractor from my neighbor, runs and drives good. My concern is that when I raise the hydraulic up along with my box scrapper it goes up, but then when I drive the tractor it goes back down, it does not stay up. Is that the hydraulic cylinder piston under neath the seat that's bad? also if it is can I also replace the control valves by taking the lift plate off only? thank you.
I just found this video I went to look at a 2n ford today almost bought it but didnt because after we backed it on the trailer it started leaking transmission oil where the engine and transmission bolt together figured the front seal was out on the transmission and wasnt sure how hard it would be to fix not sure if that is the problem but trying to figure out what i can may want to buy it anyway if it is not a bad problem also oil in the coolant figured it was bad head gasket any advice would be appreciated
Has your 8N ever started knocking? About a month ago mine started to knock as the rear tire makes a full turn. So it sounds more like transmission rather than engine knock. I just don't have enough understanding of what might cause the knock as the axle or rear end makes the full revolution. Oh. I was using the right and left tire break hard when this knock began.
I ust to (40 yrs ago) use a broom handle to line up clutches on cars by whitling around the front of handle so it centers into the little hole in flywheel and so the handle fits snugly through the clutch plate straight out then tightening down the pressure plate with it lined up. Been so long. a little fuzzy on detail, but I never had a problem with inserting transmission front shaft through the clutch. If someone don't have an alignment tool they may try this method. Maybe check with Swhesq first. Now I was thinking of buying an 8n that has a second gear issue. How hard and expensive would it be to replace the second gear if I did it myself?
My husband has a 1948 8N Ford Tractor. Gears are jammed and clutch won't disengage and therefore won't start. Is there any way to get this problem fixed without splitting tractor in two? Tractor was running fine til he put it into first gear, then reverse and that killed the tractor. He is frustrated, and I am not any help!! So hopefully, you might have an answer for us! Thanks so much! God Bless!
Wow, thank you for that help. I have an issue where my shifter started to spin left and right a little, I thought it was not common but everything worked well. Last week it started a slight grind only in a forward gear. Could it be a pin that holds the shifter in place has wiggled out and fell into the bottom effecting only forward movement? Please help. Thank You
Donald.Take you shifter cover off. About 8 bolts. Lift it stright up. Nothing is going to fly off or out. You have a set screw that has come loose. Tighten or replace. Put you plate back on then your in business. Hope this helps. Good luck my friend.
ed ok but it didnt got into the gears like normal i have a CD i bought on Ebay that shows every thing on how -to but nothing on how to fix the gears back to normal i was wondering if you have a video on how to unlock the gears? Thanks a Million have a great day
In your video, where you say it is a control valve on hyd lift. It turns out that it is a hyd chamber valve. Is that what you meant to say. I'm working on my 9n ford tractor and need some advice on why my lift won't work under a load, it works without anything hooked up to my lift.
How u do I have a ford tractor it turns on real fine the only thing I have a problem with is that when I try to pit on gear it won't do it it sounds like its grinding every time I wants to put in gear n that's with stepping on clutch was working fine last time I use it now it's been like maybe 6 months haven't turn on or use but yesterday it came on but no gears want to go in place if can let me is there something wrong with it I'll precieate it thank u n god bless u bro
Sir, could you please explain in more detail how to remove the Hydraulic Lift Piston so that the rings could be replaced? My weighted lift is going down within seconds of putting in the clutch. Not much good the way it is. Thank you.
My 9N will not engage the PTO. I was mowing and the mower just stopped . Lift does not work so pump is not running. Took PTO lever cover off, can move shaft by hand, still will not engage. Any idea what I should be looking for?
i'd like to see if you could please help, i got my 8n and bush hog stuck on a mound of dirt and i had to rock the 8n back and forth to knock it out of gear and turn the pto off and drive off the mound of dirt well i hit the gear shift to get it out of gear to turn the pto off when i did i kinda messed up the gears first gear is not where it used to be lol i think i get the gears crossed and now i cant find first gear from reverse so when i took off the the top of the gear shaft every thing look
I tapped the brake on mine while in third gear to keep the wheel from spinning and i heard a pop noise like something broke and now 3rd binds bad but all other gears are fine. What could be wrong?
Any idea how to get a stuck clutch to disengage? I have a TO 30 Ferguson, but it's very similar, and I get nothing when I step on the clutch pedal. I tightened it up, removed all travel, the gave it another 1/4 turn to make sure it was fully engaging, still nothing. I tried pulling the tractor around, I tried using the tractor to pull my truck around. I tried driving it in circles, I tried attaching the plow and pulling it through as deep as it would go so the tractor would "chug". Still, I get nothing. I'd prefer not to split the tractor, as I have no shop to work in.
You said to ask if we have a question. Is this where we ask or is there a more direct way? I'm having problems with my new 57 800. Clutch on the 5 speed slips more easily after using for a couple hours. Help?
Sure. First remove the round side plate that your PTO lever is on. No worries the lever is attached to the plate. You will need to have a drain pan under that. LOT OF FLUID. Get a light look in there you will see an actuator rod . Unhook that. Go topside. Remove every bolt that holds your top plat on. That the seats bolted to. Lift off, Flip over . 4 Bolts hold on your Lift cylinder. Order new rings and gasket, Good luck my friend. Its that simple
My '51 8N broke a starter shaft. Now the replacement starter 1 and 2 spin like the start button is engaged. Could there be metal fragments in the trans case that cause the starter make a contact to spin free and not engage the flywheel teeth or maybe the flywheel is loose. All the starters are after market. Any ideas.
lupe carranco did you get your starter out? I know I had a heck of a time the first time I pull mine out. turns out nothing was wrong with my starter. the ring gear was slipping on the flywheel. Lol won't slip now I welded it in place.
Well Allen your wrong. it has three chambers but fluid passes through each one. The fluid is tractor grade. You should Yutube your truck. it may help you wben you are working on it also sorry about your pump. thanks for the view.
I have a Ford 9 N tracker and when the hydraulics are up in the idle position I hear a knocking anybody have any idea what that is when the arms are coming up no knocking when they stop it starts knocking
seems I have two sets of gears on my model and i am in high gear can you tell me how to shift down to the lower set of gears "where's the damn leaver ? You can e-mail me at geeto@sympatico .ca
Robert Maj did you get your tractor into low range? I have a 48 ford with high low range. my lever is above your right knee. it's a push pull lever with a black knob on it. mine is really hard to pull out to get into low range. push in for high range. the knob will pull out a couple of inches.
Glad to help out. I will make a video of the lift cylinder soon. Yep I had to remove all three gear clusters as all had broken teeth. It was very easy once I got the nerve to remove the first one. LOL. My best advice is to have two parts cans. Keep one on each side to remember where bolts go. Great trick. Please forgive me if I call something by another name. I just do the best I can. Please feel free to ask any questions as I will be glad to help out.
swhesq Did you have to split the tractor into 3 pieces to remove trans gears?
I just repaired the 2nd gear in a 8n. And I guess I should have got a book on it first. It is a simple thing to replace the gears but I DID NOT KNOW how much gear oil there was it one.. There is about 8.5 gallons! And when you have a 5 gallon pan to drain it in you make a hell of a mess while you are trying to get the plug back in LOL.
You're right; very little on YT for this sort of thing. I have a 1963 Ford 4000 Select-O-Speed that I am restoring, and I cannot find much on YT for it. I am winging it, using YT, Ford Shop Manuals, and good ol' hillbilly farmboy know-how (spent 40 years in heavy industrial maintenance, so common sense is the best tool in the box). At this time, I need to replace the transmission input shaft before I can continue. Thanks for the video and taking time to make it.
Really good job of explaining how us "shade tree" mechanics got our degree in engineering. We graduated at the school of hard knocks. I like your video.
thanks, i am thinking about buying an 8n with a side distributor and this really helps. I was concerned about the tranny as i was the only repair video i had not seen.
good job
Thank you. I'm not exactly a mechanic but that sounds simple enough. I enjoyed your video, great job breaking it down for us!
Thanks for posting this!! I learned a good bit by seeing how the 8N comes apart. It has recently become of interest to me as I am a new 8N owner
Great vidio, thank you! I would have liked to see all the steps you went through to get it to this point but I understand the effort in filming that would have taken. I recently purchased A 8n and am planning on an exstensive restoration so I can use the tractor for gardening and general use. Thank you very much for sharing your interest with us 8n amatures so we can have A better understanding of the systems on this tractor. Sincerly, Shawn Daniel
I just want to thank you so much for taking the time to video this for us..
My name is bud and again thank you...
Thanks we need more tractor repair videos on youtube.
Thanks very much swhesq, just got my 8n and this video is great. May have to rebuild my lift Cylinder and Hydraulic pump so this was informative
A few years ago, I put 90 wt in our 8N, won't pump in the winter. It's due for some new parts. We deal with N- Complete Ford Tractor parts in Wilkinson, Indiana. I am going to replace the piston, piston O-ring, relief valve, a few gaskets and the cylinder (if it is scored up)
couldn't get past "I'm a cowboy".
thank you.......just bought a 54......again thankyou
Thank you!
welp my neighbor just helped me get the gears back to normal thanks for your videos
Yes you can. Just a piston under the plate. Order the rings for it at Allstateagparts. I think they are about $10. Remove the rings buff the inside with some 000 steel wool. Replace. Also Order a new gasket for the plate. Clean that very good. All Hydro pressure runs through that. Good luck.
This is the only video I’ve found with a complete breakdown on an 8n. I appreciate you uploading this video for everyone. I have fluid leaking from the front cotter key and need to replace the seal. Do you think the front input shaft seal is all I need to replace or is there another seal inside the transmission that should be replaced as well? Idk where that seal is or how it’s done but am going to split the tractor soon and all information I can get would help a lot.
No problem. remove the round side plate where your PTO lever is. Look in at your pump. On the very back at the bottom its a pressure relief valve looks like a sparkplug. Order one from Allstateagparts. $20 I think. That should do it. Very easy. Good luck
great video. it's nice to have a reference for those of us about to tackle the same. For a great resource on how-tos and manuals/photos/etc, see ntractorclub too. There's a great repair manual in there for the hydraulic lift.
Looking forward to your lift video.
Thanks.
Michale. Do not use 90 Wieght. Your tractor used standard Hydroilc fluid in all three chambers. Transmission ,Gearbox andHydrolic lift. Should be one common filler cap. You can pick up a 5gal container at Trcator Supply , Atwoods or and Farm and garden. Just make sure its non foaming. Good luck my friend.
Sounds very simple . If you take the top plate off where the shifter is just raise it up off the tractor. Look at the shifting fork that it attaches to. I bet its just bent a little, Just bend it back stright you should be fine. Your just over meshing the gears. Nothing bad wrong at all I dont think. Good luuck
as i watched your vidio i noticed that you said that the tractor used gear oil and it will lube the whole tractor .i would like to say that the tractor has 3 points to drain , witch this tells me that there is 3 differant oils and ofcorse please don't ever us ear oil on lift hyd. if you have any doubt about my advice. try replacing the power steering fluid with gear oil in your truck
thanks for the video. I just found it. I got my 8n from my dad a few years ago. I don't use it much because it's way to fast. first gear low range is about 10 miles an hour. where can I get a gear reduction and how do I do it. I'm a descent mechanic so I'm sure I can do it just never spit a tractor before.
Would live to see a hydraulic rebuild or a more detailed view of the hydraulic compartment.
On removing the top gear set on the transmission, would removing the bolts off the side of the transmission should allow me to get the top gear set out?
I could not find a set screw that you referred to. There is not shifter pin left to speak of. If has totally deteriorated then I would need to know how to release the shifter and get it out to find and remove the old one. Thank you again...
Hey there, great video. My 1952 8n is leaking hydraulic fluid where the transmission and engine come together. I assume that means the seal where the spline comes out of the transmission is bad. In order to replace that seal do I have to disassemble the transmission or simply split the tractor and replace the seal from the front?
Great Video.
Hi their, very good video, I have a 1951 ford 8n tractor gasoline 4 cylinder flat head. I bought the tractor from my neighbor, runs and drives good. My concern is that when I raise the hydraulic up along with my box scrapper it goes up, but then when I drive the tractor it goes back down, it does not stay up. Is that the hydraulic cylinder piston under neath the seat that's bad? also if it is can I also replace the control valves by taking the lift plate off only? thank you.
Thanks Much mskid68. Just trying to help guys like us have some fun.
I just found this video I went to look at a 2n ford today almost bought it but didnt because after we backed it on the trailer it started leaking transmission oil where the engine and transmission bolt together figured the front seal was out on the transmission and wasnt sure how hard it would be to fix not sure if that is the problem but trying to figure out what i can may want to buy it anyway if it is not a bad problem also oil in the coolant figured it was bad head gasket any advice would be appreciated
Thanks! If its not that what else could it be? Something big?
Has your 8N ever started knocking? About a month ago mine started to knock as the rear tire makes a full turn. So it sounds more like transmission rather than engine knock. I just don't have enough understanding of what might cause the knock as the axle or rear end makes the full revolution. Oh. I was using the right and left tire break hard when this knock began.
Can you demonstrate how to repair a Ford N8 hydraulic lift under the seat?
thank you for the info!
is there any inspection plates so you can see the clutch? or can you just pull the starter?
Thanks
Ted
I ust to (40 yrs ago) use a broom handle to line up clutches on cars by whitling around the front of handle so it centers into the little hole in flywheel and so the handle fits snugly through the clutch plate straight out then tightening down the pressure plate with it lined up. Been so long. a little fuzzy on detail, but I never had a problem with inserting transmission front shaft through the clutch. If someone don't have an alignment tool they may try this method. Maybe check with Swhesq first. Now I was thinking of buying an 8n that has a second gear issue. How hard and expensive would it be to replace the second gear if I did it myself?
My husband has a 1948 8N Ford Tractor. Gears are jammed and clutch won't disengage and therefore won't start. Is there any way to get this problem fixed without splitting tractor in two? Tractor was running fine til he put it into first gear, then reverse and that killed the tractor. He is frustrated, and I am not any help!! So hopefully, you might have an answer for us! Thanks so much! God Bless!
Wow, thank you for that help. I have an issue where my shifter started to spin left and right a little, I thought it was not common but everything worked well. Last week it started a slight grind only in a forward gear. Could it be a pin that holds the shifter in place has wiggled out and fell into the bottom effecting only forward movement? Please help. Thank You
Donald.Take you shifter cover off. About 8 bolts. Lift it stright up. Nothing is going to fly off or out. You have a set screw that has come loose. Tighten or replace. Put you plate back on then your in business. Hope this helps. Good luck my friend.
swhesq
Thank you. I will try that. This is the greatest most versatile tractor going and so easy to work on.
What is the problem when the shifter is in neutral after rebuild but transmission is still in gear
ed ok but it didnt got into the gears like normal i have a CD i bought on Ebay that shows every thing on how -to but nothing on how to fix the gears back to normal i was wondering if you have a video on how to unlock the gears? Thanks a Million have a great day
In your video, where you say it is a control valve on hyd lift. It turns out that it is a hyd chamber valve. Is that what you meant to say. I'm working on my 9n ford tractor and need some advice on why my lift won't work under a load, it works without anything hooked up to my lift.
good. please explain how to tell the direction of rotation of a tractor PTO shaft?
How u do I have a ford tractor it turns on real fine the only thing I have a problem with is that when I try to pit on gear it won't do it it sounds like its grinding every time I wants to put in gear n that's with stepping on clutch was working fine last time I use it now it's been like maybe 6 months haven't turn on or use but yesterday it came on but no gears want to go in place if can let me is there something wrong with it I'll precieate it thank u n god bless u bro
Is there a video on how to remove the shift lever from the transmission plate on a Ford 8n tractor?
Sir, could you please explain in more detail how to remove the Hydraulic Lift Piston so that the rings could be replaced? My weighted lift is going down within seconds of putting in the clutch. Not much good the way it is. Thank you.
My 9N will not engage the PTO. I was mowing and the mower just stopped . Lift does not work so pump is not running. Took PTO lever cover off, can move shaft by hand, still will not engage. Any idea what I should be looking for?
i'd like to see if you could please help, i got my 8n and bush hog stuck on a mound of dirt and i had to rock the 8n back and forth to knock it out of gear and turn the pto off and drive off the mound of dirt well i hit the gear shift to get it out of gear to turn the pto off when i did i kinda messed up the gears first gear is not where it used to be lol i think i get the gears crossed and now i cant find first gear from reverse so when i took off the the top of the gear shaft every thing look
I tapped the brake on mine while in third gear to keep the wheel from spinning and i heard a pop noise like something broke and now 3rd binds bad but all other gears are fine. What could be wrong?
What about the inside seals
Any idea how to get a stuck clutch to disengage? I have a TO 30 Ferguson, but it's very similar, and I get nothing when I step on the clutch pedal. I tightened it up, removed all travel, the gave it another 1/4 turn to make sure it was fully engaging, still nothing. I tried pulling the tractor around, I tried using the tractor to pull my truck around. I tried driving it in circles, I tried attaching the plow and pulling it through as deep as it would go so the tractor would "chug". Still, I get nothing. I'd prefer not to split the tractor, as I have no shop to work in.
I wanted to ask are the control valves easy to replace? thank you.
You said to ask if we have a question. Is this where we ask or is there a more direct way? I'm having problems with my new 57 800. Clutch on the 5 speed slips more easily after using for a couple hours. Help?
Sir can you tell me if you have to put gaskets on both ends of the transmission before putting it back together?
Sure. First remove the round side plate that your PTO lever is on. No worries the lever is attached to the plate. You will need to have a drain pan under that. LOT OF FLUID. Get a light look in there you will see an actuator rod . Unhook that. Go topside. Remove every bolt that holds your top plat on. That the seats bolted to. Lift off, Flip over . 4 Bolts hold on your Lift cylinder. Order new rings and gasket, Good luck my friend. Its that simple
that may have something to do with the pto because its not a live pto. not sure tho.
is there supposed to be fluid in area right below steering box or that area dry?
My '51 8N broke a starter shaft. Now the replacement starter 1 and 2 spin like the start button is engaged. Could there be metal fragments in the trans case that cause the starter make a contact to spin free and not engage the flywheel teeth or maybe the flywheel is loose. All the starters are after market. Any ideas.
what do you know about naa's. my 54 does it use 90 weight as well, what do i use for hydralic fluid. or is it same as the 90 wieght
thanks much help
I need help my 8n 4 speed transmission is locked in 2 gears. its a common problem. How can I get it back into neutral? With out splitting it?
can you reverse the direction of an 8N PTO shaft?
Do you have to split to pull the gears out?
My pto lever will not engage
Do you have a B bell housing or A bell housing?
have starter that will not come out maybe the Bendix is binding on the flywheel any suggestion please thank you lupe
lupe carranco did you get your starter out? I know I had a heck of a time the first time I pull mine out. turns out nothing was wrong with my starter. the ring gear was slipping on the flywheel. Lol won't slip now I welded it in place.
I just watched my video again. I did state 90wt gear grease. That was WRONG. I was in Truck Mode. SO SORRY My mistake. HYDROLIC FLUID ONLY.
Swhesq...outstanding, do you have contact number. My 8n is stuck in two gears..George
Well Allen your wrong. it has three chambers but fluid passes through each one. The fluid is tractor grade. You should Yutube your truck. it may help you wben you are working on it also sorry about your pump. thanks for the view.
I have a Ford 9 N tracker and when the hydraulics are up in the idle position I hear a knocking anybody have any idea what that is when the arms are coming up no knocking when they stop it starts knocking
its probably just the strain from lack of pressure at low rpm.
Low on trans/hydraulic oil, on a 9N trans oil and hydraulic is the same
seems I have two sets of gears on my model and i am in high gear can you tell me how to shift down to the lower set of gears "where's the damn leaver ? You can e-mail me at geeto@sympatico .ca
Robert Maj did you get your tractor into low range? I have a 48 ford with high low range. my lever is above your right knee. it's a push pull lever with a black knob on it. mine is really hard to pull out to get into low range. push in for high range. the knob will pull out a couple of inches.