WONKA: The EVIL Oompa Loompa Theory

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  • čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
  • What is Lofty the Oompa Loompa hiding?
    Lets find out...
    Rhino Stew is a channel dedicated to making experimental web content and fan theories.
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    Written and Narrated by Luke Palmer
    Wonka / Lofty by Barrett Leddy
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    00:00 - Wonka Introduction
    06:12 - Part 1: Establishing the Continuity
    12:18 - Part 2: Lofty the Banished
    16:03 - Establishing a Timeline
    20:19 - Part 3
    23:00 - Part 4
    35:00 - Part 5
    SPECIAL THANKS:
    SHELBY, ANDI, FELICIA, ELIANE, SARAH, WILLOW, L.A.R ALEX BALE, NOMADIC KONG, MOM MARYESSMART, CYBER WONKA AND HARPER GOFF
    FULLMUSIC AND SFX CREDITS: bit.ly/48eGztm
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  • @RhinoStew
    @RhinoStew  Před 3 měsíci +427

    IN ADVANCE:
    I have only now become aware that cherries are in fact Stonefruits and not Berries.
    And Zebedee is in fact a Biblical name! It was the original version of Zebedaiah. I had never heard it pronounced that way.
    Apologies for the inaccuracy / oversight!

    • @emeraldexpress2276
      @emeraldexpress2276 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ok

    • @robertborland5083
      @robertborland5083 Před 3 měsíci +25

      The neat part of that is -- due to being part of the same genus (Prunus) -- you can graft peaches, plums, nectarines, apricots, cherries, and almonds onto the same tree.

    • @tomconnors8165
      @tomconnors8165 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@robertborland5083witchcraft

    • @SnarkNSass
      @SnarkNSass Před 3 měsíci

      😂😂😂😂❤❤❤

    • @rogueskiss3794
      @rogueskiss3794 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Not dyslexia!!!! 😢 a blessed curse for sure.
      I'm dyslexic. 💔😭
      Great video!

  • @benswaddling7686
    @benswaddling7686 Před 3 měsíci +786

    My head cannon is that lofty and wonka go on to make a massive chocolate factory, they get stolen from, they shut down, lofty convinces wonka to go back to loompa land, he hires the oompa loompas, but then lofty dies and it makes wonka into the gene wilder incarnation and it's lofty dieing that makes him realise that he needs an heir

    • @drakegears
      @drakegears Před 2 měsíci +44

      The small flute got me now that you've put this I my head

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald Před 2 měsíci +39

      *canon
      and yes, I sure like this more than "they wanted to replace him because of unexplained reasons, with a random kid, after many years"
      being physically smaller generally does come with shorter lifespans, at least for mammals like humans, so I wouldn't be surprised if oompa loompas had significantly shorter lifespans, say, somewhere around 40-50 years or something, and lofty is very much adult, by the time willy meets him

    • @sglenny001
      @sglenny001 Před 2 měsíci +5

      This also makes the Chocolate cartel return

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@jan_harald what are you talking about? Shorter people live longer on average than taller people

    • @Parasolhyena
      @Parasolhyena Před 2 měsíci +10

      ​@@msjkrameyI wonder if they are refering to dwarfism, however even then in general it's not true either. Plus mammals are very strange, you've got rats that live 12 months then you've got naked mole rats that live 30 years. Then you've got elephants which live about 50 years and they are huge but then humans can surpass them by almost double that.
      You have whales where they bigger they are the long they generally live and then you have dogs where the smaller you are the longer you live.
      I personally haven't seen enough evidence or convincing studies to actually prove shorter people live longer but there are no studies suggesting that taller people live longer. I just assume if there is a difference then it's very minor.

  • @coco-ongelzela
    @coco-ongelzela Před 2 měsíci +258

    Where was the unknown, everyones favourite Wonka character who lives in the walls

    • @josephcittadino6541
      @josephcittadino6541 Před 2 měsíci +27

      They are being saved for Wonka 2, where we find out Willy Wonka was driven to become the broken man he was in the gene wilder film as a result of the machinations of the mysterious, masked Chocolateier known as "the unknown" and the eventual revelation that behind that metal mask was none other than his former old friend turned bitter enemy once his business destroyed the wealth she could have inherited, Noodle Slugworth. Seriously, Noodle out for revenge against Willy for destroying her inheritance as the Unknown just first, for some reason.

    • @coco-ongelzela
      @coco-ongelzela Před 2 měsíci +7

      @@josephcittadino6541 There is a Willy Wonka 2 called Willy Wonka and the Glass Elevator

    • @DatDaddyZaddy
      @DatDaddyZaddy Před 2 měsíci

      i think you mean Charlie not Wonka

    • @user-rn2zb6be1u
      @user-rn2zb6be1u Před měsícem +1

      ​@@josephcittadino6541 the glass elevator leaves Wonka's factory through the roof and that's how the unknown got in (or out) of the walls.

  • @Raphsophomes
    @Raphsophomes Před 3 měsíci +390

    This makes the snowpiercer parelel so much more valid

    • @twilso12
      @twilso12 Před 3 měsíci +25

      Right? I think the team behind the release knew that - but they can’t contact him because natural and free promotion is far better than paying someone who lacks passion.
      How else do you get people excited about a prequel without a lil dash of social engineering?

    • @akaidatenshi
      @akaidatenshi Před 2 měsíci +12

      A great trilogy. This should be declared canon

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Lol 😂

    • @sond.lollipop8919
      @sond.lollipop8919 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Genuinely curious, the fuck does Willie wonka have to do with snow piercer.

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sond.lollipop8919 I highly recommend watching the vid! 🤣😂

  • @TheEgoChallenge
    @TheEgoChallenge Před 2 měsíci +160

    I would have just guessed that Wonka accidentally invented some form of Mind-Swapper Chocolate, and lofty used it to steal his body, which would explain why future Wonka acts like Lofty.

    • @andrewmah2962
      @andrewmah2962 Před měsícem +4

      That would make sense.

    • @Alexz5040
      @Alexz5040 Před měsícem +5

      That makes sense on how the story of meeting the oompa loompa changes since they never even saw him in the new movie

    • @Firepuma27
      @Firepuma27 Před 28 dny +1

      I think the Wonka we see in Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory was an apprentice taken in by Wonka in between the events of both films and if he had invented a chocolate like that, Lofty would use it with said apprentice to allow him to live longer and it drove him mad which is why Wonka in the 1971 film is a little crazy and is unfazed by the kids dying and has anger issues as shown in the " You get nothing" segment

    • @Tarriq
      @Tarriq Před 21 dnem +5

      Or wonka just spent so much time with lofty he became like him

    • @AngelLili1
      @AngelLili1 Před 4 dny

      Is explained in details in a oryginal book

  • @5h4d0w5l1f3
    @5h4d0w5l1f3 Před 3 měsíci +150

    Wonka being a fool acting the part of a genius explains why he acts like Charlie from It's Always Sunny, when a couple of guys "give him pills that increase his intelligence but make him frail"

    • @ichr123
      @ichr123 Před 2 měsíci +2

      "give him pills that increase his intelligence but make him frail"?

  • @trystenryder
    @trystenryder Před měsícem +10

    Fun fact, Gene Wilder said that in the original the whole point of him walking out with a cane and then dropping it into a somersault was to signify that he cannot be trusted

  • @suicidalzebra7896
    @suicidalzebra7896 Před 2 měsíci +82

    Willy Wonka always gave me strong 'absent father/divorced dad' vibes, but this works too (and arguably better). It also explains the fractured nature of this office where everything is halved: it's a reflection of his fractured mind caused first by the death of this mother, and then splintered by Lofty's actions.
    Great theory, looking forward to more.

    • @hannahlarocco4699
      @hannahlarocco4699 Před 2 měsíci

      Why

    • @ethandouro4334
      @ethandouro4334 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I kinda can connect the dots too, where after Wonka lost his mother, he was put in place to be raised by his father

    • @ethandouro4334
      @ethandouro4334 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I kinda can connect the dots too, where after Wonka lost his mother, he was put in place to be raised by his father

  • @flaiman
    @flaiman Před 3 měsíci +114

    Now I'll think of Patrick Bateman every time I think of an Oompa loompa

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Well he does get a musical later just like Oompa Loompas (seriously Matt Smith plays him in the soundtrack)

  • @gannazalevska1443
    @gannazalevska1443 Před 2 měsíci +90

    FINALLY, SOMEONE POINTS OUT THAT MRS. SALT SAID SHE WAS A GEOGRAPHY TECHER IN THE BOOK. THANK YOU, RHINO STEW

  • @keenkingjames
    @keenkingjames Před 2 měsíci +52

    This theory is pretty tame compared to the one about children being a key ingredient in the chocolate.

    • @KingOfHarlots86
      @KingOfHarlots86 Před měsícem +5

      😮 wait thats not how you make chocolate?!!...😬 Oops

    • @ChocLitBar
      @ChocLitBar Před měsícem

      @@KingOfHarlots86depends on why you’re putting them into the chocolate it could be a secret ingredient he found with children and their belief in magic in which goes into the chocolate more so with their souls rather their actual bodies once he’s done with the bodies he could of found a way to just turn them into Oompa Loompas or discarding of the bodies some other way maybe crush the bodies up using the it for the chocolate fountains 🤷🏾‍♀️🤣 just a thought 💭

  • @Gelatinocyte2
    @Gelatinocyte2 Před 3 měsíci +157

    For a second I thought this was The Theorizer from the notification thumbnail.

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald Před 2 měsíci +11

      and past the about halfway point or so, he did become The Theorizer, with equally crazy theories, lmao
      "so actually, wonka killed his own mother, and also, oompa loompas control him, and steal the chocolate, and also wonka has a shadow monopoly on all the chocolate in the world, and what if, the character with the exact same name is actually neither the same character nor is that his actual name, he's willy's hired man to keep up pretenses"

    • @possums154
      @possums154 Před 2 měsíci +5

      same i didn''t realize this wasn't the theorizer until probably ten minutes in

    • @yeenobabino
      @yeenobabino Před 2 měsíci +6

      That’s what I was thinking. This whole video is so Theorizer-esc. Must’ve been an inspiration.

    • @questworldiangreenknight7455
      @questworldiangreenknight7455 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Lol he does give me that vibe 😂

    • @hawkersjetsammitt
      @hawkersjetsammitt Před 2 měsíci +2

      Same

  • @B-MC
    @B-MC Před 2 měsíci +70

    Enjoying the movie, that was my golden question too: if Wonka is someone who cant read and got screwed over by contract, why did he do the same to CHILDREN with the fine print?
    Naturally my go to was (same with Lofty) "eh, soft reboot prequel. Its hard to make up new stuff that doesnt in any way contradict the old stuff" but well done for connecting the two!
    I genuinely want this story to be the sequel. Wonka sends out 5 golden tickets because he genuinely wants an heir and parralel with the mothers golden ticket, but he needs to test the corrupt to make sure the naive child he hires instead has the moral fortitude to truly stand up to lofty, so when Charlie fails he's genuinely distraught. It keeps up Wonkas genuine desire to find an hair and live the dream, but justifies the erratic need to CRUELLY punish children displaying greed. If he didnt care about Charlies morality he wouldnt berate him he'd just say "yeah you win, im out of here". But Charlie is Wonkas last hope, and the great glass elevator is symoblic of wonka and charlie escaping the factory entirely (in its current form). Wonka says even Charlies family can move in, so somehow hiring Charlie booted Lofty out, because for the first time humans other than the owner are allowed in. Maybe Wonka put in some fine print of his own; if he finds an heir, they get a fresh start, so he prioritized above all making sure beyond a doubt that the heir wouldnt make the same mistakes he did and would give up greed above all.
    Also what stuck out to me was Lofty ONLY ever helped because of capitalism, he never developed genuine care for wonka.

    • @solouno2280
      @solouno2280 Před 2 měsíci

      Irony and facts is what you are looking for.
      You either die a hero or live enough to become the villain, it's the reason why everything goes to shit: "too much paradise". The more time happens without conflict, the more we ask for it, it is not only in fiction, but also proven in history. Christianity, for example, started with a bunch of hippie jewishes that slowed the capitalism overcome by hundreds of years, but after they survived the paid prosecution by the jewish themselves, crusaders, inquisitors, cristeros, etc appeared. Even the Reich turned this "hippie non violent movement" into a godless one of the darkest times in the 20th centuries.
      You know, Wonka movie reminded me of another one: "The illiterate" starring Mario Moreno aka Cantinflas. He is even aware of this fact, and there is a moment where he doubts about learning how to write and read because of what his coworkers did to him, that he could become "he who fights monsters. The moment he teamed up with the nefarious Lofty instead of the kind hearted girl was what settled up his fall to demise and become he who he swore to destroy.

    • @user-ko4ry9me4t
      @user-ko4ry9me4t Před měsícem

      You do realize that companies aren't going to aid you in how to take them down, what movies always illustrate is how so easily fooled people are and at the same time we are dominated, we are hopelessly dependent upon their weapons created to destroy us and completely ineffective in harming them.

    • @taliagmail.com2005
      @taliagmail.com2005 Před 22 dny

      he was still a good person in the original film

  • @guyfeeyeti375
    @guyfeeyeti375 Před 2 měsíci +35

    As a Wonka obsessed youth, I was very excited to read the Great Glass Elevator story. But as soon as I saw the drawing of the Vermicious Knid, It terrified my 9 year old ass

    • @AngelLili1
      @AngelLili1 Před 4 dny

      I have no idea how the audiobooks of this book are avaible on audiobook 😂

  • @noahcove79
    @noahcove79 Před 2 měsíci +13

    I might also point out it's possible the riverboat ride with all the psychedelic imagery could also have been used as psychological torture and potential hypnosis forcing Wonka to be even more susceptible to confronting what lofty was doing to him

  • @MinaWalker
    @MinaWalker Před 3 měsíci +89

    I love the tunnel sequence!! Your lofty impression is amazing ❤

    • @Timyus
      @Timyus Před 3 měsíci +11

      Uh, I think someone else did both Lofty and Wonka. Still, props to them though!

    • @LordHADESKS
      @LordHADESKS Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Timyusyea

  • @Avigorus
    @Avigorus Před 2 měsíci +16

    I think you're just forgetting the possibility that Noodle went to the dark side somehow, like suddenly coming into money when she inherited got to her or something. The Slugworth from the Wilder Slugworth could be her husband, who due to branding took her name instead of the other way around (rare yes but not impossible). This could even contribute to the level of spite between him and Slugworth, because of the level of that betrayal.

    • @dannyhuskerjay
      @dannyhuskerjay Před 2 měsíci +5

      I like that more. Reason he goes crazy and paranoid towards humans.

  • @savagedoki4
    @savagedoki4 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Gene Wilder's Wonka is actually Lofty in Wonka's body. That is why Wonka repeats all of Lofty's lines. They swapped using Wonka's "Die Happy Dumplings" (or some thing like that) a candy that is so good it makes your soul leave your body. Then Lofy killed Wonka and took over the factory. As Wonka's body started to age Lofty created the contest so he could find a new younger host body.

    • @taliagmail.com2005
      @taliagmail.com2005 Před 22 dny +1

      yeah I don't believe that this video is just a theory anyway

  • @marcuslee4902
    @marcuslee4902 Před 3 měsíci +75

    I want to personally thank you for wonkapiercer part 3 , you made me understand to process emotions and shed my first tears in a long while , it was a relief , thank you for putting the effort in your videos , and thank you for discussing topics that most wont dare to discuss, and thank you, time to watch the video , cheers ppl

    • @geegee2970
      @geegee2970 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Oh god
      Thank you for reminding me that this exists and I need to go watch it

  • @tarvitz
    @tarvitz Před 3 měsíci +52

    I wasn't going to watch Wonka, but, now you've made a video on it, guess I'll have to

  • @silkysketcha
    @silkysketcha Před měsícem +5

    In the movie wonka explains he didnt learn to read and always just trusted in the kindness of people.
    In the movie you see that he begins to realise that not everyone is kind and caring like him....The cartel stopping him, the public destroying his shop, the corruption of the chief, scrubbit, bleacher etc.
    I think over time wonka kept putting his trust in peoples kindness and people kept taking advantage of him untill he eventually snaps and shuts down the factory. After a while wonka (wilder) realises he needs someone to take over and as he doesnt trust people anymore he puts out the gold tickets and then puts the kids through numerous brutal trials to see if there is anyone left in the world who is kind and caring enough, like wonka himself used to be, to take over his legacy and hopefully put the love back into the chocolate.
    The candyman can cos he mixes it with love and makes the world taste good.

  • @eak125
    @eak125 Před 2 měsíci +5

    okay... I will pay so much to see the Wonka sequel with THIS plot. It would explain everything and possibly add a side story where Wonka picks Charlie as the one hope to free the Wonka factory from the clutches of the loompas.... Lofty specifically.

  • @MasterBlek
    @MasterBlek Před měsícem +4

    Some will probably ask: "Where do the rest of the Oompa Loompas come from, if this one has been banished?"
    Well, Robot Chicken has the answer for you.
    ...
    The other theory is that the Oompa Loompas are hybrids (children of Lofty and some human).
    No wonder why they are bigger.

  • @michiganjack1337
    @michiganjack1337 Před 3 měsíci +72

    0:09 Wait it was? I didn’t even know it was released. Had it not been 18 seconds ago I would’ve said that movie hadn’t come out yet. 😂

    • @diprogamer3294
      @diprogamer3294 Před 2 měsíci +4

      well, the rest of winter releases were even worse

    • @Jow64
      @Jow64 Před 5 dny +1

      Never even heard of this movie until this video too

  • @sudonim3719
    @sudonim3719 Před 3 měsíci +31

    I am glad to have witnessed Wonka history so soon.... Seriously, I just finished this and hate how much sense it makes 😭😭 Keep up the great work!!

  • @agostoangosto9442
    @agostoangosto9442 Před 3 měsíci +42

    I enjoy your Wonka FanFiction alot . Hopefully someone makes an animatic of the boat scene

    • @solouno2280
      @solouno2280 Před 2 měsíci

      this is beyond fanfiction, it makes yo-blade (which ironically the same Beyblade took inspiration in the end) or Tsubasa to look like they had been made by youtubers instead of talented individuals

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie Před 3 měsíci +41

    Rhino: Are you prepared?
    Me: I'm a doomer, I always have been prepared for the worse.

  • @hellishproductions7743
    @hellishproductions7743 Před 3 měsíci +116

    So you're saying the reason of all this is literally the same back story as chopper in one piece...
    Chopper a Aspiring doctor in training kill his foster father while treating him for an illness and used the wrong mushrooms and poisoned him instead. The foster father didn't have the heart to tell chopper and left chopper in the hands of a "witch" so he could die.
    He made the "witch" promise to never tell chopper.
    Kinda sus lol

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  Před 3 měsíci +24

      Oh yeaaaah!

    • @snowman21279
      @snowman21279 Před 3 měsíci +15

      both wear giant goofy top hats as well

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  Před 3 měsíci +6

      So weirdly enough, I had been meaning to get back into One Piece. I stopped reading Shonen in Highschool, where I finished Alabasta and had been informed by my nephew who is a O.P superfan that it was a perfectly respectable place to stop given the time. This comment made me revisit the Drum Island arc and I realized I unintentionally referenced it in My series "2 Kawaii 4 Comfort" when a character says "I watched the entire 3rd season of One Piece in a screening room). I never watched the anime of O.P and the line was arbirtary but the third season was the Drum Island arc and indeed could have been watched in one sitting at a convention!
      I am also quite sentimental to the arc as my Father was a Doctor.

    • @JayStack5
      @JayStack5 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I thought the exact same thing

    • @VaughanRoderick
      @VaughanRoderick Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@RhinoStew Your nephew isn't a superfan if he thinks that stopping anywhere is valid. A superfan is like a junkie who wonders why everyone else isn't addicted to heroin.

  • @ASDOutdoors
    @ASDOutdoors Před 2 měsíci +3

    You know, in the Gene Wilder movie, no one knew what Wonka looked like before his reveal. And this was in a time where news of his golden tickets was on TV internationally, but no pictures of him. This makes the theory of Charlie not knowing what Slugworth looked like plausible. It also makes it more plausible for Wonka to have fake slugworths. By the way, from Wonka's age to my age now I changed from a gullible teenager who thought he could make a living writing poetry to operating two businesses, making more in a month than I used to make in a year, and working on my second doctorate. A guy can change a LOT from youth to a reasonable amount of age, especially if he had a mentor like Lofty.

  • @valkyriechan
    @valkyriechan Před 2 měsíci +8

    i love how you can tell he's smiling as he lays down the heavy points.

  • @rcschmidt668
    @rcschmidt668 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Maybe having Lofty could work… Wonka discovers Lofty like this movie, and after they spend time interacting with each other, he goes back on a second trip and discovers the entire tribe?

  • @adamgordon9128
    @adamgordon9128 Před 3 měsíci +37

    Starting to sense a theme

  • @t.z2359
    @t.z2359 Před 3 měsíci +25

    My head canon is that lump land becam desolate between films. That said love the idea of an Evel Ompalumpa.

    • @solouno2280
      @solouno2280 Před 2 měsíci

      it happens, but after Charlie presses the button and before the snowpiercer event. You know, when you open a closet it's just a closet, you never see the monster that hids there until it jumps towards you. Was it real? just as real as an uranium miner? or was it just your vivid child imagination? making stuff out of the shadows in the night?

  • @farrdawgjoker7087
    @farrdawgjoker7087 Před 2 měsíci +17

    I love how you added half of Loftys face to the halved man statue in Wilders Wonka office. 😊

  • @jessicachernak8699
    @jessicachernak8699 Před 2 měsíci +7

    Or maybe Noodle decides to take over Slugworth''s chocolate factory and they begin to compete against each other to come up with new and more fantastic candies just for fun at first but the competition becomes more and more crazy and Noodle starts to cut corners and steal recipes until they turn against each other leading to Wonka losing his only real friend to greed. We already know Noodle grew up incredibly poor and money can do bad things to people. Also she was willing to steal the milk while he was not which makes it more likely that she would be capable of becoming the villain in part 2.

    • @taliagmail.com2005
      @taliagmail.com2005 Před 22 dny +1

      I don't want her becoming a villain in the sequel it will ruin the first wonka movie from 2023

    • @taliagmail.com2005
      @taliagmail.com2005 Před 22 dny

      wonka can still get a sequel though

  • @denimvelvet4670
    @denimvelvet4670 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Honestly it does realy explain why Charlie was forgiven for the whole bubble incident. Yes, he disobeyed. Only because a closer authority figure nudged him into it. Explains why they were looking at children who were so young as well. Easy to brainwash and manipulate.

  • @tutoring1013
    @tutoring1013 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Brilliant! I always wanted Wonka to be a dark movie because it's clear it was always supposed to be.

    • @taliagmail.com2005
      @taliagmail.com2005 Před 22 dny +1

      he doesn't hate children if you watch in the end of willy wonka and the chocolate factory he is nothing but nice to charlie also those 4 other kids were bratty they did it to themselves they only have themselves to blame not wonka also wonka did try to warn them but it was their fault for not listening

  • @twilso12
    @twilso12 Před 3 měsíci +17

    14:06 the difference between a thousand dollars a million - the difference between a million and a billion - the difference between public wealth and true power

  • @alexanderburns4616
    @alexanderburns4616 Před měsícem +2

    almost exactly five minutes in, and i'm all in for this, real life conspiracies are no fun for anyone, but you wanna talk about fictional implications of every detail of a film i'm in.

  • @psychowillow1123
    @psychowillow1123 Před 2 měsíci +16

    I clicked on this video randomly in my recommended, thought it was fun so I opened the channel and see you made 2Kawaii4Comfort?? I loved that series a lot years ago so I rewatched the whole thing, still so good. Great work!

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  Před 2 měsíci +5

      Thank you so much! I've had more "success" on CZcams with theory related content but I'm always happy to see there is a trickle back to 2Kawaii!

  • @GenuineLhachwen
    @GenuineLhachwen Před 2 měsíci +10

    Why do you feel like the Gene Wilder Wonka was insane? I just felt he was eccentric and a dedicated businessman that was autistically in love with candy , chocolates and the craft of such things.

    • @alphax4785
      @alphax4785 Před měsícem +1

      Gene's Wonka was always the closest to the book for me, where Wonka isn't even human but rather a gnome that went adventuring and became obsessed with chocolate.

  • @The_Grim_Raptor
    @The_Grim_Raptor Před 2 měsíci +6

    That ryme at the end of part 4 is such a banger, it needs its own song fr 🔥🔥🔥

  • @friv_0881
    @friv_0881 Před měsícem +2

    It also makes sense for the way that Wonka describes Loompa Land as inhospitable and dangerous to the golden ticket winners in the original movie.
    What better way to prevent anyone ( Especially a rival Chocolatier) from ever exploring to seek out Loompa Land in order to gain access to it's superior cocoa beans.
    It's a well thought out story that works on multiple levels, including painting Wonka as generous and benevolent for ''saving'' the Oompa Loompa's by moving them into living in the Wonka factory.
    Honestly, Rhino Stew's theory works in so many ways!

  • @handsomeandtall
    @handsomeandtall Před 3 měsíci +497

    I walked out 15 minutes into Wonka because everyone ate bugs.

    • @hergzcool
      @hergzcool Před 3 měsíci +81

      like that train movie

    • @marcuslee4902
      @marcuslee4902 Před 3 měsíci +47

      @@hergzcooloh no , hear we go

    • @robertborland5083
      @robertborland5083 Před 3 měsíci +57

      I walked out halfway through Charlie and the Chocolate Factory because I never saw the train.

    • @Coconutcrow7115
      @Coconutcrow7115 Před 3 měsíci

      Bugs that fly out your ass no less!

    • @twicksrap456
      @twicksrap456 Před 3 měsíci +10

      Lol. Just lol

  • @nameless5512
    @nameless5512 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Man, this is almost feeling like a slower paced Theorizer video… a cute and innocent movie analyzed to have dark sinister secrets.

  • @Miano_SEA
    @Miano_SEA Před 2 měsíci +7

    The amount of whiplash I got here had the same intensity I experienced with snowpiercer depicted as a bad ending wonka sequel.
    Holy shit dude, you're onto something here...

  • @jeanjohnson2743
    @jeanjohnson2743 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Lofty handles the business and Wonka handles the factory

  • @quinn2826
    @quinn2826 Před 3 měsíci +9

    Oh my God, this video is a masterpiece. I can’t believe it’s under 1000 likes!!!!! Amazing job with the voice acting

  • @snausages43
    @snausages43 Před 2 měsíci +3

    It’s weird how we’ve had two adaptations and now a prequel, but nobody has adapted Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator to screen yet.

    • @taliagmail.com2005
      @taliagmail.com2005 Před 22 dny +1

      actually there was another recent wonka film before this it was the awful tom and jerry crossover film

  • @apollolux
    @apollolux Před 2 měsíci +3

    Wasn't expecting that twist going in, thought you were gonna say Gene Wilder's Wonka was actually Lofty all along. XD

  • @roosh1986
    @roosh1986 Před 2 měsíci +2

    33:10 Love how this throws shade to Prodnose's signature catchphrase

  • @HenningGu
    @HenningGu Před 3 měsíci +9

    God, you outdid yourself with the scenario.

  • @_neon-xeon_3966
    @_neon-xeon_3966 Před 3 měsíci +11

    God I just love your videos so dearly. Your vids just sooth me in an indescribable way, always awesome to watch in bed late at night until I fall sleep. Just the right amount of serious/intelligent/cerebral but also wacky/hilarious/entertaining as all hell content. I absolutely adore the 2 incredibly long recent wonkapiercer vids. These are always so well made, ESPECIALLY THE VECTOR ESQUE ANIMATIONS!!! So cool

  • @Handicrafti
    @Handicrafti Před 2 měsíci +4

    I'm surprised you have so few theory videos. Your presentation is clean, your reasoning makes sense, and you have a good voice /intonations for this

  • @Lore-mc7zw
    @Lore-mc7zw Před 2 měsíci +22

    The Cartel leaders being out of prison actually makes sense if you remember that rich people get out of prison all the time in the real world too.

  • @Balmarog
    @Balmarog Před 2 měsíci +3

    Dear Rhino Stew- I am loving your work! I was just recently introduced to you via your Snowpiercer / Wonka video and watched part 2 and 3 yesterday. I feel like it re-sparked my own imagination and motivation to maybe start writing fiction again after not doing so for the last fifteen years or so.
    Appreciate all you do and looking forwars to more!

  • @StandardGaming
    @StandardGaming Před 3 měsíci +9

    THE LEGEND RETURNS!

  • @maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337
    @maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337 Před 10 dny +2

    Honestly rather interesting. I’ve seen like dozens of theories saying Wonka enslaved the Oompa Loompas, but this is the first time I’ve seen a theory that the Oompa Loompas basically enslaved Wonka

  • @twilso12
    @twilso12 Před 3 měsíci +10

    Put that flute intro into a sonograph

  • @FosukeLordOfError
    @FosukeLordOfError Před 3 měsíci +7

    22:29 prediction for reveal, mind transfer and wilder wonky has lofty's mind, which is the real reason the lumpas work for him

    • @zoranbasic4959
      @zoranbasic4959 Před 3 měsíci +6

      I thought mind swap also but now I'm thinking that loompas punish children and Wonka was the first to be punished

    • @FosukeLordOfError
      @FosukeLordOfError Před 3 měsíci +2

      Not mind swap but still oompas in control

  • @problematic441
    @problematic441 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Amazing video
    Please never stop
    You will be the next game theory if not bigger

  • @Ponk_80
    @Ponk_80 Před 24 dny +2

    I have not been this entertained in a long time on CZcams. Thanks this is the best 40 minute that I have spent in the last several years. The video was very well put together. The music and the narration was perfect.

  • @justletmelistthese
    @justletmelistthese Před 3 měsíci +13

    Nice a video about the pre-prequel (that I will never watch) to that train movie (that I've never watched).

  • @meganbyerly8086
    @meganbyerly8086 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I want a horror movie about oompa loompa taking over the world and smuggle chocolate. All jokes aside this really open my mind never would think they were the bad guys

  • @mysticalkeyblade759
    @mysticalkeyblade759 Před 2 měsíci +5

    This is such a good theory and the acting is magnificent! :)

  • @ryankramer8779
    @ryankramer8779 Před 2 měsíci +1

    🎵 Oompa Loompa doopity doo
    I've got a bad feeling about you 🎵

  • @danae5578
    @danae5578 Před měsícem +2

    33:22 That is the creepiest version of the oompa loompa song.
    Danggggg my guy.. this is a great horror movie. This needs to be a movie.

  • @lostinthemasses
    @lostinthemasses Před 3 měsíci +7

    I loved the Clue reference!

  • @shadowdivided
    @shadowdivided Před 2 měsíci +3

    allow me this one caveat if you will, what if the contest was actually Wonka's way of getting out of the situation, by finding someone who had no strings attached to him by Lofty, and part of his candy making secret training was to warn and prepare him to resist.

  • @indigetes
    @indigetes Před 13 dny +1

    I love/hate how this theories are usually better than what we end up with most of the time.

  • @TheOneTrueMar
    @TheOneTrueMar Před 2 měsíci +10

    "Why is lofty lying about Oompaland?" Because this is a reboot even if they don't want tot admit it.

    • @gonhunter3994
      @gonhunter3994 Před 2 měsíci +1

      *Wonka, why is Wonka "lying" about Loompaland & yeah you're right, I want this theory to be true... but it most likely isn't

    • @jacemaxwell8486
      @jacemaxwell8486 Před 2 měsíci

      Your wrong your wrong your wrong your wrong your wrong ITS NOT A REBOOT YOU DISSGUSSITNG FRAUD EVERYTHING YOU KNOW AND LOVE IS A LIE

  • @mikeyfrederick1232
    @mikeyfrederick1232 Před 2 měsíci +5

    You actually got my heart racing towards the end sir lol.. I don't know what kind of darkness you pulled this out of your soul from...but I really enjoyed it....with all your content I just got to ask... you had an ok childhood right? LoL jk I know it's all in good fun....
    The visual look of the video was super well done and interesting also....Major credit to you and your channel...

  • @woops9076
    @woops9076 Před 2 měsíci +5

    The ‘boysenberry = poison berry’ connection fucking killed me💀

  • @seedest
    @seedest Před 2 měsíci +2

    I clicked on this video and I was like “damn I wish rhino stewed talked about the new wonka video, I like his videos,” Then I heard you say “this is dino stew” and I was like LETS GOOOOO HYPE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @0zer0ne1
    @0zer0ne1 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This was great, i loved this video, especially the tunnel part

  • @elonk4life
    @elonk4life Před 3 měsíci +4

    I personally really enjoyed the Wonka movie. Timmy Wonka’s energy reminded me a lot of Charlie Kelly from Always Sunny in Philadelphia. The illiteracy, the childlike wonder, the entrepreneurial spirit, the inventions, the affinity for strange animal milk.
    Eg
    Girraffe vs Tiger door
    Pirate vs Private
    Giraffe milk
    Fight Milk -crow milk
    Pure Imagination
    The Nightman cometh -especially the final scene and his Wonka esque outfit
    Seeing a little Orange man stealing his candy in the night and trapping him in a jar
    Trapping the ‘leprechaun’ in a glue trap. Who was also stealing I think?
    Wonka’s unhinged paranoid conspiracy theories and Wilder Wonka’s line deliveries
    Pepe Silvia office scene -I wouldn’t be surprised if Day took inspiration from Wilder’s performance
    The scene where everything comes together at the factory with everyone working together to create an illusion of competence
    Charlie Work.
    There are others I am forgetting.
    I think what makes both such interesting and enjoyable to watch characters is the delusional sincerity of it all. They both try so hard. They are motivated by good intentions. To spread joy through their inventions. To make an absent parent proud. To win the approval of the characters that are manipulating and taking advantage of their talents and willingness to help the whole time. There is this childlike wonder paired with subtly threatening comments. They are both crazy, they both hurt people, they put the health and safety of themselves and others at risk. But their goal is to be happy. And share that happiness with others.

  • @MPbmfm
    @MPbmfm Před 3 měsíci +5

    Willy could be the reason why Loompaland got into that bad state that he tells about in the original version because he stole their entire yearly crop by picking those 3 pods and the green catapilars that is the daily food of Oompa Loompas could have been in somekind of symbiosis with the cocoatree and it's beans
    Also what Willy and we see as a place with nothing but desolate wastes and fierce beasts is normal life for the Oompa Loompas but not a place we would want to live
    How many time has well meaning people looked at another peoples way of life and said: "Your way of life is not as good as our way of life" and destroyed that peoples way of life that they were content with and with the promise that the well meaning peoples way of life is filled with "milk and honey"?

  • @Drewggles
    @Drewggles Před 2 měsíci +1

    Now this is how you get a new sub, coherent theories destroying the disney-sweet every damn movie has to put on to make it appeal to the general public.. i love it. Im here for it. Keep it up, imma go binge all your vids now

  • @evilutionltd
    @evilutionltd Před 2 měsíci +2

    I bet that, during one of Wonka's experiments, a machine goes wrong (as seen in the original film several times) and that both Wonka and Lofty merge into 1 person.

  • @IncredibleCactusRoll
    @IncredibleCactusRoll Před 3 měsíci +4

    I literally just watched this movie today somehow perfect timing on this theory

  • @RagnarTheGrey
    @RagnarTheGrey Před 3 měsíci +5

    Good stuff as usual. You fill the gaps in such an interesting way.

  • @maplebob23
    @maplebob23 Před měsícem +2

    Wait! Wonka couldn’t read until Noodle tutored him! There’s no way he could have misread boysenberry as poisonberry!

  • @StrangerOman
    @StrangerOman Před měsícem +1

    That's some nice theory you got there, Luke. Keep it up.

  • @ferrets5451
    @ferrets5451 Před 2 měsíci +3

    This was super well done!

  • @lucasimam6865
    @lucasimam6865 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Maybe its my wishful thinking, but couldn't his exposure to the lumpa song make him crazy. I'd certainly go mad.

  • @TaiJendamNation
    @TaiJendamNation Před 2 měsíci +1

    Sir, today I discovered your channel, became a subscriber, and had to reach out to express my admiration of your oratory skills. Parts of your video gave me goosebumps! I bet you'd be wonderfully terrifying around a campfire! Wonderful video, I look forward to watching your channel.

  • @ethandouro4334
    @ethandouro4334 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I kinda connect the dots with Wonka having both parents, as her mother died when he was a child, then Wonka was put on behalf of the authorities, who then send him to his next parent, his father.
    And this theory, makes me wonder as if his father was a medic, not a dentist, but became a dentist after hearing about the death of his ex wife.
    This gets even darkier lol

  • @johnhughes9999
    @johnhughes9999 Před 3 měsíci +5

    We should have not let him cook

  • @parky669
    @parky669 Před 3 měsíci +4

    that introduction has more circles in it than a circle factory. so long...

  • @uselessagent7342
    @uselessagent7342 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Far more interesting than you expect being as a collection of poorly made reboots and prequels doesn't seem appealing at face value but this really got me. I thought he was reaching but in the end I am totally in love with this story idea and the comments here only add more interest. Beetlejuice & Saturn was also a great alternative theory.

  • @leonellinux7419
    @leonellinux7419 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Oh my god!!! I was immerse in the story you put !!! I want even more of the story!!!

  • @lolafierling2154
    @lolafierling2154 Před 3 měsíci +3

    This is a great video! But i think we now need a bigger about how this fits in with wonkapiercer theory. Please. I feel like if you could do that you would be the smart person who's ever walked the earth. 😂

  • @MyFutureDiary
    @MyFutureDiary Před 3 měsíci +3

    Love this theory ❤

  • @rachelfreeman2180
    @rachelfreeman2180 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Mate, ive recently come across your videos and you actually kill me 😂
    love it! X

  • @Splatodyessy
    @Splatodyessy Před měsícem +2

    At around the 6:49 mark you say "This movie is clearly positioned to be aligned with the '71 film since it contains 'Pure Imagination', which is a song only present in that version". However, I would like to inform you that "Charlie And The Chocolate Factory: The Musical" also contains the song 'Pure imagination'. Though, in that version, Oompa Loompas are robots/automatons made by Wonka.

    • @taliagmail.com2005
      @taliagmail.com2005 Před 22 dny +1

      exactly people who say it isn't a prequel to that film need to do some research

  • @TrashLefties
    @TrashLefties Před 2 měsíci +4

    Isnt it easier to pretend the new movie didnt exist, and being nobody went to see it, makes it so much easier.

  • @ginsengaddict
    @ginsengaddict Před 3 měsíci +4

    30:18 - subtitles are currently not available.

  • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
    @user-yv2cz8oj1k Před 2 měsíci +2

    Or ignore it and take into account that Rohl Dahl had travelled as a soldier, it's in one of his books that he had been in Palestine.
    But the Umpha Loompas were originally black, suggesting that Willy Wonka went to Africa and exploited them, bringing them over and exploiting them as cheap labour, offering something they highly valued that he could acquire a lot cheaper elsewhere.
    But you could also apply the story to the Middle East.

  • @questworldiangreenknight7455
    @questworldiangreenknight7455 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have a concept about a potential sequel: Wonka is not as trusting of humans after The Chocolate Cartel are loose again (bribing their way out of prison and regaining their businesses) and like Caesar from Dawn of the planet of The Apes, he doesn’t consider one of his own might betray him. Something causes Lofty to be displeased and betray Wonka to The Cartel and in the sequel Wonka becomes friends with Mr. Wilkinson (The Fake Slugworth) and they become best friends after he helps him with convincing the Oompa Loompas to come work for him. That’s at least some of my ideas anyway.

  • @thespookylocker
    @thespookylocker Před 3 měsíci +7

    I've never seen someone apologize for a garbage movie and give it more credit to the writers that couldn't write what the back of there hand looked like in all my life