Ancient DNA from Mesolithic Ukraine
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Data Source:
Mathieson et al. The genomic history of southeastern Europe. Nature 555, 197-203 (2018). doi.org/10.103...
Reference: ER Jones et al. The Neolithic Transition in the Baltic Was Not Driven by Admixture with Early European Farmers, Current Biology, Volume 27, Issue 4, 2017, doi.org/10.101....
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Similar to modern Estonian result, very cool 👍👌 The man looks like Ramzan Kadyrov 🙂
Just with black hair hhahahaha
@@SoggyBody According to phenotype yes he is closer to modern North Caucasians (and maybe Georgians), but according to his dna he is very far from them genetically even far from modern Ukrainians.
@ARYAN TIGER Modern Caucasians are surely not the same like Yamna people that lived in past, moved Westward and inhabited mostly Northern and Central Europe. They have EEF, West Asian and sometimes Middle Eastern or Iranian dna.
Внатуре как рамазан кадыров😂
Finally, you're back!! I've been waiting for you!
During the Mesolithic time period, when this man was alive, most of Northern Europe was still covered with ice. The so-called Ukrainian refuge was free of ice. When glaciers started to melt, folks moved from there to the north with the receding glaciers. That might explain why some of the modern DNA in the Baltics and Nordic countries are close to this man’s DNA. The modern folks carry some of the genes of Mesolithic hunter gatherers from the Ukrainian refuge.
It's Steppe dna
@@dejantodorovski5222these hunter gatherer are pre-Indo european steppe
@@varatic644 Yes normally 🙂
He’s back !
While I appreciate the effort and thing the videos are great, I cannot escape the impression that the genetic test results are skewed toward the western audience and consumers, i.e. there is a bias against south, central, and eastern-Europeans. Literally every genetic make up is explained in terms of "Baltic", "Irish, Welsh, Scottish", "Scandinavian", "Iberian", etc. Where the hell are Russians, Poles, Checsz, Serbs, etc.?
You're not wrong in that. Other DNA testing companies like AncestryDNA got it right, although their customer base is predominantly Western. LivingDNA got it mostly right too, and they are Japanese.
MyHeritage shows all Slavs as a mixture of East European, Baltic and Balkan in different proportions.
My new favorite channel
Yes, the same male and female haplogroups occur in my own DNA and my DNA matches remains from Rathlin island from 4,000 years ago off the northern coast of Ireland. Its known that people migrated from Ukraine westward into Europe in ancient times and migrated to the southeast into ancient India and became the Brahmin class in India, bringing the Sanskrit language and writing. I knew a man who was a "native Irish speaker" and he said it was like Sanskrit, but over time as people are separated without communication, there language changes in each separated place and evolves into locally differentiated languages. But some core common words will remain similar "cognates". Also, we should know that ancient people migrated much more than we ever imagined.
welcome back!
Hes back 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hi, I was wondering if giving it to you shows the lineages of the Carolingians and the Ottonian dynasty. "Legend says" that my ancestors are connected with the Ottonians through the Liudolfing house", so I'm curious. Hugs from Brazil, great channel.
Suggestion and request:
Ancient Egyptian
Sumerian
Hunnic (Europe)
Khazar Kaghante
Hellenic Macedonian
Illryian
Ionian (Ephesus)
Truscan
Vizigot
Byzantine (from Turkey)
Early Slavic
Volga Bulgar
And hallstat culture
You forgot East Asia!!!
@@barguttobedNations of East Asia: Japanese, Korean, Ainu people, Menchurian, Tungusic people, Mongolian...
What do you say want? East Asia not a ethnicity
@@Uloynisilbi I meant as the region, i think we should do more east Eurasian DNA. For example I would like to see Xianbei, Donghu, Pannonian Avar, Rouran, Slab Grave, Mohe..
@@Uloynisilbi And modern Even/Evenk, Negidal, Buryat, Tuvan, Sakha
its look like ramadan qadirov 😂
Ramadan☠️
I think you should do tajik_rushan dna test and tocharian dna, thank you
Tocharian
@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat Tarim mommies too
@@barguttobed yes sir
Can u upload about Tarim mummis who score rich ANE DNA?
Amazing channel. I subscribed.
Hi Decimali have you got results from the maykop culture from Caucasus?
Thank you
If possible could you do the Cimmerian 3 samples. Thanks.
Cimmerians are intriguing to me as well. Their genetic profile is similar to asiatic Scytho-Siberians and Sakas rather european Scythians and harbouring sizeable east Eurasian genes as well. They must be one of earliest nomad migration from the East to the West through the steppe
Target: Cimmerian_IA_Moldova
Distance: 1.7535% / 0.01753547
61.0 Sintashta_MLBA
20.8Mongolia_LBA_DSKC_Khövsgöl
13.2 Gonur_Tepe_BA
5.0 Mongolia_EIA_Slab_Grave
0:54 -morphologically he reminds me a bit of Ötzi. But seeing his Y DNA, R1a means he is an Eastern Hunter Gatherer, prolly strong w/ Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) admixture component , the residual 6% Inutit and Native American corroborate that. The dating however puts him some 2 to 3 Millenia prior to the appearance of Western Steppe Herders , so I reckon he might have not carried Caucasus/Iran admixture just yet
Do an anglo-Saxon
Looks like a chechen
In phenotype yes. But genetics of this example and modern Chechens is different.
EHG is European
@@dejantodorovski5222 no, you kazakh Mongol
Basically modern Estonian
Ah, at last a relative of mine in the male line. R-M459 is related to my Y-DNA in upstream line.
I've seen a Ukrainian g25 vahaduo ancient breakdown and they were 22.3% European Hunter-Gatherer, is this component mostly derived from the Ukrainian Mesolithic or Baltic Mesolithic?
-Btw Ukrainian Mesolithic score really high EHG (Eastern Hunter-Gatherer) ancestry (up to 80% the rest is WHG ancestry with some AHG, CHG influence) and they're most closely related to Finns, Northern Russians and Balts so we can say that most closet modern populations to EHG's are the Finns, Balts etc..
-Ukrainian Mesolithic could be the ancestral paternal group of the Pontic Caspian Steppes Herders (Proto-Indo-European Yamnaya cultural group) since they're around 50%-55% EHG and 3%-6% WHG.
My heritage and some Gedmatch calculators attribute for it partial Siberian/Amerindian ancestries because of high ANE contained in EHG part of this Mesolithic Hunter gatherer.
Mais tu est de quel origine toi frero?
@@fachospheriquemotors He is Buryat from Buryatia (Eastern Siberia), Russia.
@@dejantodorovski5222 Wtf you talking? I’m Macedonian Slav from Balkans
Could you find any of ancient Donghu samples if there are and make a video on? It would be interesting to see it.
First of all it is WRONG to write "ukrainian DNA" when talking about Mesolitic samples. The Slav people did not live then in those territories and nobody had any idea that thousands of years later some people living in the same area will call themselves "ukrainians". Nobody calls "Italian" a sample coming from the Estruscan or Roman periods. The people living in Vasilyevka (Dnepropetrovsk, East Ukraine) are not the same who lived there in Mesolithic times. It is the same mistake like to say that people living in Tirol, Austria are genetically the same like Oetzi and the first Euroepean farmers. How you can 'analiyse' an ancient sample using like reference panel a list of modern ethnic groups? It is no more than a game.
Haplogroup R1a1 is common for modern Ukrainians.
@@mgm661 it's mostly derived from the balto slavic people who lived in the baltic states and belarus. but it can be derived from ukrainian mesolithic
@@ilovegenetic It is the other way around. Some ancestors of the Baltic peoples in their long term migration passed by territories that now, thousands of years later, we know as "ukraine".
@@afinespormx7633 tbh I am surprised to see R1a1 haplogroup from such an ancient burial .. since I always thought it came much later during Indo-European migration .. (with Yamnaya culture, etc).
@@mgm661 Yamnaia is not far away.
so basically the most closet ppl to EHG's are the Finns? can u upload next iberomaurisian, numidian, funnelbeaker, pitted ware culture next?
« Closest », among modern populations yes but still at considerable distance 0,148 you can see Finnish coloured in purple which means very distantly close. Other north and east Europeans must be slightly more distant than Finnish
not exactly...they have a lot of EHG ancestry though.
@@barguttobed yeah, EHG's used to live in modern day Finland before Indo-European and Uralic migration came to the region.
@@minmodsefa around 80% and the rest is mostly WHG with some AHG and CHG (4%).
they may be the ancestros of the Repun (archaic proto indo-european) and the Yamnaya herders who used to live in the Pontic Caspian Steppe in the early bronze age.
@@ilovegenetic who are the Repun?
specifically, dnieper-donets cultural complex is said to be the paternal ancestors of the yamnaya/steppe herders!
can you find anciant khmer dna result (like angkorian)
I'm curious about matches.
@robertolang9684 If you used the My heritage platform then we will have genetic matches. I would like to know even though it is an old sample if it would have matches with living people.
He’s more Welsh than me! I’m only 6% according to my dna test and I was brought up there but found out last year I’m 58% Irish. But that’s a whole CZcams video on its own 😂
Can you do Bahamian DNA
please test elamite dna
The (autosomal?) DNA results appear to be somewhat consistent with Viking slave raids; slaves from the region taken to Scandinavia, then they or their descendants going with Vikings who colonized Finland and the British Isles.
The dark skined Cheddar man was more european than him.
They're both Europeans.
@@PaleolithicTimes I meant genetically. Cheddar man was only Scandinavian, Finnish and Baltic DNA (only European).
Mesolithic Ukranian was an extra 6.0% Inuit and native American DNA (non European).
@@CPlusPlusOpenGLMan Inuit and Amerindian is just confused Ancient North Eurasian DNA due to the 40% ANE ancestry among Native Americans.
The Ancient North Eurasians are the Paleolithic Paternal ancestors of modern day most of Europeans, Native Americans, South Asians and even some West Asians (mostly Iranic speaking peoples) while they're the Maternal ancestors of modern day Iranians, Caucasians, Siberians and even Some Europeans.
@@CPlusPlusOpenGLMan The North American admixture is most likely noise, since there is not much of it and it is also divided by ANE, which in turn has a West Eurasian admixture.
Cheddar man was not dark, maybe darker than later europeans but not as was pushed by some ideologic driven media.
I think R1a, R1b ydna are dene-caucasian as dene-yeniseian, tyrrhenian-vasconic, north caucasian and uralic-altaic as hunnic, altaic, turkic/ugric people of altaian siberia who have mixed with european U, V mtdna maternal linage in west, east euroasia.
Those indoeuropeans in euroasia were I ydna and U, V mtdna early europeans before R1a, R1b ydna and A, W, I, X mtdna have come from altaian siberia tousands years later.
R1a, R1b ydna and A, W, I, X mtdna are uralic-altaic, dene-yeniseian, tyrrhenian-vasconic, north caucasian people. On the other hand, indoeuropeans were I1, I2, J2, G2 ydna and H, U, V, K, J, T mtdna people.
Basically estonian.
Basically not. But propably very far ancestor for Estonians and all other Europeans
@@barguttobed Yes, you are right. I only said that because the genetic composition is very similar to estonians. So it can probably came from a mix of baltic, uralic, viking, celtic and Turkic-native siberian tribes (probably confused by inuit and native american), it makes sense, because all of this tribes were in Eastern Europe.
No estonians are almost fino ugric
@@ver_idemModern DNA studies show that Estonians are overwhelmingly Baltic with small amount of Finnish genes.
On Myheritage typical Estonian gets more Baltic dna than let's say typical Lithuanian.
@@matiasguillermoweckmann5195 Irish, Scottish and Welsh are not Celtic as in Hallstatt or La Tene i.e. Continental Celtic. They are mostly related to Bronze Age populations.
Wait, Roman Emperor Nero does look like him except Nero has blonde hair.
can someone explain to me what this means? are you saying the guy who lived 9000bc found in what is now ukraine had a gene pool of relatives from all these different regions even the british isles? i struggle to get my mind around how this works. I interpret it as saying if you go back on both his maternal side and paternal side to grandparents stretching back in time most of them were either what is not russia or russian or scandanavian/finish with some who came from britain?
You take the DNA of someone ancient, you compare it to present day people and where they live. That ancient person could be a tourist on a journey and died in a place he did not belong, or he lived there. That is the big unknown. That is why you should view this as interesting but not scientificly.
What about ancient israelites?
@robertolang9684 Science does not agree with you. Genetic studies point out that different Jewish lineages (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi) descend from ancient Israelites and are related to each other through a common origin, although they remained separated for centuries.
developed into modern levantines and mountainus jews from Iraq and Iran.
@@abraaoluiz5457all Israelites have same Jew mothers but different fathers.
Nationality is coming from mothers side, this is why they are able to call themselves Jew
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The same think 🤣
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We all though the same😂
Ramzan Ahmatovich?)
No iranic or indian?
Toutes ces populations à l'origine sont d'Afrique du Nord Ouest puis , ce sont installées au Nord du Caucase et Sibérie après une période en Mésopotamie.. l'autre partie est passée par l'Europe occidentale vers le Nord Ouest Atlantique ancienne .....
( à suivre )tout est mis à jour ,
Tolan gives Turkic anchestry in 4th and 5th sections cuvash and tatar because of inuit, native American. Also siberian . He was an uralic man . He was a real steppe herdeners grandson😊
The region was populated by the Dacian tribes, then when the Romanian states were formed, it was in their territory. After the invasion of the Russian Bolshevik empire of the Eastern European states, it was granted by them after 1945 to Ukraine.
Nipru !? Tu vezi daci si cand mergi la buda!
yana result please!
he did it actually
@@ilovegenetic where it is?
@@armins9118 the first one ANE
@@barguttobed Yana is ANS, the ancestors of ANEs
@@armins9118 sadly he deleted it but it showed 33% south asian 20% scandinavian and the 15% irish and the rest is random partly baltic and some random native american DNA.
Do an EHG like Karelia_HG.
This is already quite the same, just a lil bit WHG shifted
@@barguttobed Hmm yeah but its enough to distort it
@@minmodsefa i’m pretty sure no, lmao you want 100% accuracy
@@barguttobed ideally yeah
R1A... he was Slavic...
„ Mesolithic Ukrainian” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
he looks very much turkish😂
You look Greco-Armenian
@@balkanic1971 🤣